Ceres wrote:
Dramatica, Keith and i already settled that, no need to bring it up again.
I'm never understood.
Pointing out an example? Crime? No.
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| Author: | Croik [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sprite Theft |
It's been brought to my attention that there's sprite theft going on in here, which is completely unacceptable (neither is art or fic theft, for that matter). So I'm here to remind everyone of the rules and let you know what I've just told the mods about how it's going to be handled from now on. What is theft? -Using someone else's sprite without credit or permission. If you see a sprite someone else did and say, "Hey, look at what _____ did!" and post it in your thread, that's not the same, but it's still rude - better to post a link to where it came from. This section is only for posting art YOU did. By all means praise your fellow artists but don't go reposting their sprites, and especially do not try to take credit for them. This includes using them in sprite comics and fan games. -Using someone else's sprite as a base without their permission. Do not edit someone else's sprite and try to pass it off as your own unless they have given you very clear permission. What should I do if I spot a theft? -Report the thread with the report button. It'll be a lot easier for us mods if you include a note of "I know ____ actually made this sprite, it's in their thread," or even provide a link if you can. A mod will be by as soon as possible. What will happen to me if I'm caught stealing? -Your art will immediately be taken down and you'll be suspended for a week. Repeat offenders will be banned permanently. I know some people may say that we're all just "stealing" the game sprites to make ours anyway, so it shouldn't make any difference. But the point is the credit. No one on this site is claiming they created the Phoenix Wright sprites - we all respect Capcom for the work they put into the game. But with fan sprites it's not always obvious where the work came from, which is why credit is so important. Please have respect for your fellow artists and their work. Thanks for your support guys. If you have questions please feel free to ask them. |
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| Author: | Greeny [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Sprite theft is SRS BSNS. I have a question though, what happens if you're wrongly accused of stealing sprites? If a sprite you have does look familiar to another one, and really looks as it used the one as a base, for example... (Though I don't think it's likely to happen.) Or in a worst case scenario, a spriter may steal a sprite, put it in his thread, claim he made it and report the original creator. (But that would be unlikely as well.) Anyways, one other thing, I feel like the 'victim', the original creator should have at least a little say in what happens to the thief. |
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| Author: | DramaticaXIV2 [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Greeny wrote: I have a question though, what happens if you're wrongly accused of stealing sprites? If a sprite you have does look familiar to another one, and really looks as it used the one as a base, for example... *coughKeithNJcough* |
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| Author: | Ceres [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Dramatica, Keith and i already settled that, no need to bring it up again. @Greeny: In most of those cases, There will always be pixel differences then with the original source. a.k.a. Sprite markings, invisible if you don't know where to look. |
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| Author: | Greeny [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Yes, but my concern is if there will be sufficient investigation. |
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| Author: | DramaticaXIV2 [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Ceres wrote: Dramatica, Keith and i already settled that, no need to bring it up again. I'm never understood. Pointing out an example? Crime? No.
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| Author: | ike liberty [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
i have a question can you use a other pesons sprite a a base such as........jetis' appolo front sprite if you give credit? |
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| Author: | DramaticaXIV2 [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Jeti's front facing Polly is official, actually. http://www.court-records.net/screenshots4.htm |
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| Author: | ike liberty [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
oh yea iknow that but hers is cleaner and i wondered if that counted she made it cleaner and made it talk so thats why i thought.......... |
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| Author: | Ceres [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Normally you would need to ask permission first, But Jeti has been absent for quite some time now. So, If you decide to use it, give credit and if later she objects to this, then you can take it down. (wich i doubt she'l do, as long as you give credit) |
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| Author: | Nadindi [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Personally, I haven't seen any sprite theft  But these rules are important, even though I personally may not have seen it 
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| Author: | Croik [ Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Greeny wrote: I have a question though, what happens if you're wrongly accused of stealing sprites? If a sprite you have does look familiar to another one, and really looks as it used the one as a base, for example... (Though I don't think it's likely to happen.) Or in a worst case scenario, a spriter may steal a sprite, put it in his thread, claim he made it and report the original creator. (But that would be unlikely as well.) The second example is easy to spot just by looking at the posting date. But in general, I don't think it'll be too hard to spot ones that have been stolen vs ones that just happen to look similar. Most of us are pretty familiar with these sprites by now, and we'll be careful about making sure the evidence is solid before punishing anyone. Of course, hopefully this warning post will keep people from feeling the need to steal at all. The eye of Gant is upon you....! 
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| Author: | DramaticaXIV2 [ Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Obviously not the guy from Ceres' topic... |
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| Author: | Volty [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Croik wrote: Of course, hopefully this warning post will keep people from feeling the need to steal at all. The eye of Gant is upon you....! Ahh! Not "The Eye"! Not that I would steal in the first place, but that is an automatic sign NOT to steal sprites, if it means Gant will stare into your soul and mindrape you! Also, anyone know if Android still frequents this site? I have a feeling he doesn't...but the reason I'm asking is because he has some awesome Gregory Edgeworth sprites that I really wanna use in my new video series, and would it be ok or not to put the animated sprites in my video and post it, as long as I give credit? Same goes for Apeman's edits. |
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| Author: | Lind [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Travolta3335 wrote: Croik wrote: Of course, hopefully this warning post will keep people from feeling the need to steal at all. The eye of Gant is upon you....! Ahh! Not "The Eye"! Not that I would steal in the first place, but that is an automatic sign NOT to steal sprites, if it means Gant will stare into your soul and mindrape you! Also, anyone know if Android still frequents this site? I have a feeling he doesn't...but the reason I'm asking is because he has some awesome Gregory Edgeworth sprites that I really wanna use in my new video series, and would it be ok or not to put the animated sprites in my video and post it, as long as I give credit? Same goes for Apeman's edits. Apeman was recently around, but it's been about a week now... As for Android, i'm pretty sure he's gone. |
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| Author: | Volty [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Lind_L_Tailor wrote: Travolta3335 wrote: Croik wrote: Of course, hopefully this warning post will keep people from feeling the need to steal at all. The eye of Gant is upon you....! Ahh! Not "The Eye"! Not that I would steal in the first place, but that is an automatic sign NOT to steal sprites, if it means Gant will stare into your soul and mindrape you! Also, anyone know if Android still frequents this site? I have a feeling he doesn't...but the reason I'm asking is because he has some awesome Gregory Edgeworth sprites that I really wanna use in my new video series, and would it be ok or not to put the animated sprites in my video and post it, as long as I give credit? Same goes for Apeman's edits. Apeman was recently around, but it's been about a week now... As for Android, i'm pretty sure he's gone. Damn, so what should I do about his sprites? I mean, I'll give him credit, but I'm unable to ask permission, so should I just forget about it and ask someone else to make some? |
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| Author: | Nose [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Yeah, don't use it without permission. You could have a look at their profiles to see if there's an MSN or other messanger address, or give them a pm on the slight chance they'll return once in a while, it can't hurt to try. |
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| Author: | Volty [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Nose wrote: Yeah, don't use it without permission. You could have a look at their profiles to see if there's an MSN or other messanger address, or give them a pm on the slight chance they'll return once in a while, it can't hurt to try. I dunno, I searched him in the members, but he didn't appear (I tried all other varients of his username). Damn! Why are those sprites so good and I can't use them! |
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| Author: | Nose [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Well, I had another look. Apeman hasn't been on for about 2 weeks now, and has no contact details. No contact details for android either, other than her Deviantart page. http://androidgirl.deviantart.com/ Make a account, and ask for permission on the page, they appear to still go there. |
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| Author: | Volty [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Nose wrote: Well, I had another look. Apeman hasn't been on for about 2 weeks now, and has no contact details. No contact details for android either, other than her Deviantart page. http://androidgirl.deviantart.com/ Make a account, and ask for permission on the page, they appear to still go there. Thank you for the help I got the right body part correct, right? Heh heh, I'm joshing you, pal. But yes thanks for the hookup! |
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| Author: | Perrydotto [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
I hope Apeman comes online again. His stuff needs to be animated. Travolta, just send him a PM and he'll hopefully answer to it once he comes online again. |
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| Author: | Volty [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Perrydotto wrote: I hope Apeman comes online again. His stuff needs to be animated. Travolta, just send him a PM and he'll hopefully answer to it once he comes online again. Yeah, I haven't forgotten.  I hope so, too. |
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| Author: | ReturnofthePhoenix [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
I just want to ask you one thing. If the spriter has been perma-banned (like Lind_L_Tailor and BlackJack), can we use their works/sprites/anything else they have? |
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| Author: | inu98756 [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
ReturnofthePhoenix wrote: I just want to ask you one thing. If the spriter has been perma-banned (like Lind_L_Tailor and BlackJack), can we use their works/sprites/anything else they have? it's still concidered their stuff so it would still be sprite theft. |
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| Author: | Lunaria42 [ Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
ReturnofthePhoenix wrote: I just want to ask you one thing. If the spriter has been perma-banned (like Lind_L_Tailor and BlackJack), can we use their works/sprites/anything else they have? There contact information should be correct in their profiles. You could ask for their permission through that means (instant messaging or other sites they go to). |
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| Author: | DefenceLawyer [ Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
this may sound stupid and already asked but if someone hasn't logged on for a year, can you use there sprites if you give credit? 
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| Author: | RandomJibberish [ Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Well, it's better not to use them, or find another way of contacting them. |
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| Author: | Croik [ Mon Aug 24, 2009 1:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
DefenceLawer wrote: this may sound stupid and already asked but if someone hasn't logged on for a year, can you use there sprites if you give credit? If you want to use someone else's sprites the only option is to ask them first. If you can't find any way to get in touch with the creator, you'll just have to go with something else. |
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| Author: | Auraion [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
so ... using normal characters sprites is not stealing, right? i mean this ones http://www.court-records.net/sprites1.htm But using other guy's customized sprites THAT'S stealing, right? |
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| Author: | Sprite-boy [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Question: If I use a sprite pose from someone other and redesign it, is that Sprite stealing? |
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| Author: | Nose [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Auraion wrote: so ... using normal characters sprites is not stealing, right? i mean this ones http://www.court-records.net/sprites1.htm But using other guy's customized sprites THAT'S stealing, right? Correct. Sprite-boy wrote: Question: If I use a sprite pose from someone other and redesign it, is that Sprite stealing? Well, your question isn't very specific. But if you mean using someone else's work as a base, it still counts as stealing. Ask permission and give credit if you do. |
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| Author: | Sprite-boy [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Nose wrote: Well, your question isn't very specific. But if you mean using someone else's work as a base, it still counts as stealing. Ask permission and give credit if you do. yes I mean that. (and where the other smilies? i can't see the others.) |
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| Author: | Auraion [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Sprite-boy wrote: yes I mean that. (and where the other smilies? i can't see the others.) Look in this thread Got a question. If i make a sprite for someone (sprite requests), and he/she uses it without giving credit. Is that stealing? 
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| Author: | Tap [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Auraion wrote: Sprite-boy wrote: yes I mean that. (and where the other smilies? i can't see the others.) Look in this thread Got a question. If i make a sprite for someone (sprite requests), and he/she uses it without giving credit. Is that stealing? I would consider to be stealing as all requests must have credit used if the requester posts the completed work. Ptapcc |
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| Author: | Percei [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Auraion wrote: Sprite-boy wrote: yes I mean that. (and where the other smilies? i can't see the others.) Look in this thread Got a question. If i make a sprite for someone (sprite requests), and he/she uses it without giving credit. Is that stealing? Only if you explicitly asked for credit really, it's a nice thought if someone credits you without asking, but really, doing a request for someone is like giving someone a gift that they were hinting for. You don't ask the recipient of the gift to go around saying that you got them that. If it is a problem for you, I'd recommend approaching (PMing) them and asking politely if they'd give you credit on your work. The most likely situation is that it's a simple misunderstanding. Also, @Ptapcc, there is no rule stating that. I don't know from whom or where you heard that. |
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| Author: | Tap [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Percei wrote: lso, @Ptapcc, there is no rule stating that. I don't know from whom or where you heard that. I've always considered it common courtesy to give credit to whoever did the request for you. It's my personal rule- though I thought everyone would follow something similar. Ptapcc |
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| Author: | Auraion [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Ummm i can't find the "facing front Apollo" on the sprites. I found one on imageshak, but i don't know who made it. If i take it, am i a Theft? or, where i cand find the sprite? |
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| Author: | Tap [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
The front Apollo can be found here: http://www.court-records.net/screenshots4.htm. Scroll down to the end of AJ Case 4 Screenshots. |
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| Author: | Auraion [ Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
Ptapcc wrote: The front Apollo can be found here: http://www.court-records.net/screenshots4.htm. Scroll down to the end of AJ Case 4 Screenshots. Thanks Super P! you saved me! haha thank you very much. 
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| Author: | RandomJibberish [ Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sprite Theft |
That's not a sprite, it has anti alias around the outside and a lot of colours. It's easily edited into one though. |
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