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Southern Corn (SC) wrote:
I'd think you would play DD first myself for SoJ to make sense.
It's AA. Whatever you may have missed will be repeated to you ad nauseum.
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Southern Corn (SC) wrote:
I'd think you would play DD first myself for SoJ to make sense.
Ignore Cat she's biased by years of bitterness towards AA and sees the only value in it as yaoi bait for her headcanon.
Yeah you would need to, otherwise Case 4 would make no sense and any appearance of Athena would be weird.
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Anyway,even if you don't like SoJ,it's still a weird place for new players to begin. Mainly due to the amount of references.
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Southern Corn (SC) wrote:
If she [Cat] hates it so much then why is she even here?
This question has been asked at least four times now.
On-topic, I'm taking another look at ŌkamiDen. I remember kinda liking it, even if it wasn't as good as the original. Looking at it now, well first I have to get past the rather slow opening.
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Plus, this Non Phoenix Wright part of the forum exists for a reason... there are other interesting things here, that don't involve talking about AA.
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I'm re-playing Final Fantasy VI, VII and IX. Just want to see if I still think the franchise in general is kind of overrated.
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Thelema wrote:
C'mon, nobody really needs to be a fan of certain subject, or even like most parts of a subject, to participate in a forum about the subject and be a valuable contributor. This kind of site would be hella boring if all people were die-hard fans and nobody presented criticism or opposing viewpoints.
Plus, this Non Phoenix Wright part of the forum exists for a reason... there are other interesting things here, that don't involve talking about AA.
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I'm re-playing Final Fantasy VI, VII and IX. Just want to see if I still think the franchise in general is kind of overrated.
Plus, this Non Phoenix Wright part of the forum exists for a reason... there are other interesting things here, that don't involve talking about AA.
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I'm re-playing Final Fantasy VI, VII and IX. Just want to see if I still think the franchise in general is kind of overrated.
Just cause folks like a franchise doesn't mean they can't still be critical or have a different opinion of it.
You can get opposing viewpoints while still liking something as a whole or in part.
Joining a fan site and then only insulting the thing the site is based on however? That's trolling (though I'm not saying Cat does this).
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Southern Corn (SC) wrote:
Anyway,even if you don't like SoJ,it's still a weird place for new players to begin. Mainly due to the amount of references.
I was talking about in terms of plot or character things, not references. References are fun and something that is better if one knows what they are based on; but in terms of important things, AA will tell you over and over about things - like how you can barely play through AAI and not have at least one dang reference to Karma being responsible in DL-6.
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If she hates it so much then why is she even here?
To be honest, I joined this forum at a time when I hadn't finished the first three games yet and was still playing. I felt the game was a bit... stupid... and extremely loose with its law, but decided "first game, c'mon, it probably improves"... well, it didn't, for my tastes. The law became looser than old underwear's elastic and the cases became dumber and too easy to figure out.
So... I was naive when I came, then became bitter as AA disappointed me more and more.
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I'm re-playing Final Fantasy VI, VII and IX. Just want to see if I still think the franchise in general is kind of overrated.
VI is awesome.
VII is the most overrated piece of dated, horrible crap that was outdated even back in 1997, when it was new.
IX might be good, I dunno - haven't played it, though I do recall looking things up and feeling a bit confused about some parts of the plot.
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Joining a fan site and then only insulting the thing the site is based on however? That's trolling (though I'm not saying Cat does this).
Correct; at least, I don't think that's what I'm doing.
I am fully willing to admit that 2-4 is a good case based on the message it tries to convey - but I feel it failed in its execution and having pretty much forgotten it for the next game.
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Phoenix Wright SOJ. I'm at the very beginning of the 3rd case right now where
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...Maya being arrested for suspicion of having committed a murder is not a spoiler. For any AA game.
This isn't me hating on AA; that's just the truth - if Maya is there, she needs to be accussed of murder.
To actually get back on topic, my Sims 3 100 Baby challenge is now done this way: I started with a teen household and had her age up from there, doing the usual teen thing. Since she aged into a young adult now, I got her pregnant by the first guy she met at the beginning - Maximus, who has been a potential romance since teen years. Fun little thing.
Also, Pokémon Moon.
I wonder why the developers decided to give Hala's Mankey "Anger Point" as its ability. Like, penalizing the player in the very first, big battle for getting a crit? Which is technically an RNG thing?
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Thelema wrote:
I'm re-playing Final Fantasy VI, VII and IX. Just want to see if I still think the franchise in general is kind of overrated.
I honestly don't feel Final Fantasy is as overrated a franchise as it used to be. I will say though, I feel that FFIX is a very underrated game in comparison with most of the franchise. It seems to me that it's constantly overlooked. In my opinion though, it's one of the best Final Fantasy games and I feel overall it's held up very well.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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Then again that applies to a number of RPGs generally held in high regard (Persona 4, Suikoden V, etc.) so
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The only major complaint I had about FF IX was it took freaking forever to get going
Then again that applies to a number of RPGs generally held in high regard (Persona 4, Suikoden V, etc.) so
Then again that applies to a number of RPGs generally held in high regard (Persona 4, Suikoden V, etc.) so
Funny. I was just thinking that about Tyranny. Slow starts strike me as a staple of RPGs. I suspect part of it is that RPG plots are rarely simple enough for the game to "get going" quickly.
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I love both games though, but I personally don't think FF9 is bad about that at all. If anything, I'd say the biggest gripe I'd have with the game is the loading times when getting into battles and the frog mini-game in disc 3, but that's nitpicking for me.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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In general, I don't mind minigames in videogames... if they aren't really forced onto the player. Just optional. Like... in Tales of Symphonia, you need a Palmacosta Wine. It costs 1.000 Gald, which can be expensive at that point because of equipment and all. If you happen to have money for it, buy it. If you don't, the game tells you of the waitress minigame at the nearby cafeteria.
Techncially, you are required to do it at that point, but it does give you a plot mandated item. (Also, a title for Collet) And it can be skipped.
Though I recall I absolutely loved WHIZ in Tales of Eternia. Screw whatever the plot was, I wanna play THAT minigame.
But yeah, Persona is getting notoriously bad for actually getting to the game.
I believe I've mentioned it: my first play of Persona 5 ended up taking me 4-6 hours to get to the ACTUAL dungeon gameplay and not mandated go-only-here parts. Yes, part of that was because I was listening to dialogue and all, but still.
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From my recollection, FF9 forces I believe 3 mini-games in the whole story, one which you are allowed to lose and still progress with the story. There's a match a button prompt game, a required card battle game, and the frog mini-game. As opposed to FF7 which had the barrels with Aeris, timing the button presses with Tifa and Barret, doing squats, the bike section, the lung breathing, dolphin jumping, chocobo racing, snowboarding, the submarine mini-game, the excavation mini-game, Fort Condor, the Junon parade section, and I'm sure there's more I'm missing. All of these required in the main story as well to progress. It's freaking insane.
In my opinion, most of these mini-games have very clunky controls as well. As someone who just 100%ed this game with Steam Achievements earlier this year (FYI, this is a terrible idea and I don't recommend this to anyone), I feel my stance on this game is pretty much the same. It's not terrible, but it's far from the best. After doing everything I can with this game, I doubt I'll ever go back to it again considering this game really doesn't have anything that draws me to it. I'll probably play the remake, but that's about it.
FF9, I can do all I want with the game, and I still find myself coming back to it as, aside from one part of the game, it lacks all the tedium that FF7 provides and I feel it has a better, overall experience for me. And unlike FF7, getting a Golden Chocobo is a lot more fun and way less confusing and tedious as all you need to do to get one in this game is play Choco Hot and Cold and Treasure Hunt. Not mindlessly grind and mate chocobos for hours upon hours. Also, in my opinion, Choco Hot and Cold is easily one of the best mini-games in the Final Fantasy franchise.
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Pierre wrote:
Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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Kefka is fun - he is basically just a caricature or archetype of the evil clown/jester who is evil for the sake of being evil and wanting power, but still entertaining compared to the villains of previous games. Celes and Terra are good female characters (despite the whole cliché about Terra's powers... "u the only one"... "u r special"... though this kind of stuff is common in most JRPGs)
Anyway, I would still place this game in the "good" box, not in the "amazing" or "outstanding" box.
I might disagree with CatMuto about FFVII being shit... I would agree that the game doesn't deserve all the praise it gets, and I don't think it aged extremely well (the graphics - ouch), but it actually brought something different to the series. The way the game focuses on Cloud and Sephiroth is a whole new thing... how it focuses more on the main character's psychological world, and how even the villain is somewhat an extension of the main character's inner world. It doesn't deal with the main character's issues on a superficial level ("hey, you have powers, you are good, you have to save the world from an evil empire/king") - and I think this is a huge improvement when it comes to how RPGs develop, and create more nuances in their characters. When I finish FFVI, I will play it again, and some of my opinions here may change, but I doubt it.
And I think I agree with Dullahan about FFIX being kind of underrated... Even though Zidane/Garnet is not one couple I enjoy a lot and all, I remember finding them way better than most "canon main couples", for example, like Cecil/Rosa or Tidus/Yuna, and most characters decent.
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And, of course, everybody seems to love Shadow.
I got nothing against him, I just don't see him as that amazing.
Plus, with the whole Esper-magic-learning, it's easy to make any character pretty much whatever you want; which defeats the purpose of the larger cast again.
If one looks at XIII, they do a decent job - six characters in total, they all have their place in the plot (though Snow disappears off-screen for half of it) and, while you can learn every role with them eventually, some are still better than others and they have their 'best' role: Vanilla is a great SAB and RAV; Hope is more MED and RAV; Lightning is all-round; Snow is more for defense...
Of course, you can use whatever party member you prefer. It's just that some of them are better suited for certain roles, battles or plot sections.
See, I get what you mean about Cloud.
It's a nice idea, but I found him so boring and unlikeable in the beginning. He does get better at the end of the game, but there is a chunk of the game where he's... not there. I find it difficult to really care about a character (especially if it's supposed to be a main character!) and what they are going through, if they are not on-screen and have their thing going off somewhere else. (Similar to my Snow example above; he has his place and his motivations are shown through flashbacks, but he spends the times between those flashbacks where I don't see him - instead, I get a lot closer to Vanilla and Sazh or Hope and Light. He just feels like the thumb sticking out - even Fang feels more intergrated than him)
Now, where I found a protagonist's plot was done well is Tales of the Abyss.
Luke starts off as super arrogant and can be unlikeable to some. But he gets better over the course of the game and I never am without him (exception: the Rugnica Deathcap sidequest... which is an optional sidequest), so I see him go from arrogant to annoying to pitiful to want-to-encourage-him. Even if he spent a section of the game 'comatose' akin to Cloud, he still was present and I saw him react to how things were going down 'without' him.
...thinking about Luke just makes me realize how much Namco has started to drop the ball with later games...
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Southern Corn (SC) wrote:
I'd think you would play DD first myself for SoJ to make sense.
I had already watched a walkthrough DD, actually, so I decided to get SoJ first since I hadn't watched that yet and DD would be a bit more boring, due to knowing what the tricks to the cases are and all that.
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Edit: Friggin' finally. The ground in the Lush Jungle is now littered with unconscious Trumbeak, but I finally caught that blasted Passimian. Right after I made this post, she stopped calling in reinforcements, giving me a chance to chuck two balls at her in a row--the second worked.
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I also have a Miltank and Magnemite, which finally evolved into a Magneton.
I lost my Bee (Golbat), though... and I had it hold the Soothe Bell ever since I got it... Screw you, Salazze Totem! Freaking CRIT Flame Burst.
Also, my current 100 Baby challenge is going okay. Here is a post where you can see the first and secondborn's CAS pictures of growing up. I'm currently at 11 children for Generation 1 and can't wait for the next few kids to become YAs so I can have them move out.
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I think I really like it guys.
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Well? Are we going or what?
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Just finished playing The Beginner's Guide. Not sure what I think about this one, really. It's not worth the full price tag, but if you can find it for $1 or something, it might be worth it. I'm still trying to process how I feel about the narrative.
I watched someone play it - can you even call it 'playing' if you are walking through various sets of incomplete games while a guy narrates about someone else? - I couldn't finish the entire thing.
On the one hand, it's cool to see assets that someone created for games.
On the other hand, it sounds stupid how this guy is trying to psychologically analyze the asset creator based on what assets he created. (YanDev is making a game about being a Yandere girl and wanting to 'get rid' of your rivals to get Sempai - does this mean YanDev is a homicidal maniac? No.) Plus, he basically admitted that he did this to hopefully reach out to the asset creator and get him to do things again.
Comes across as... weird...
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Project Diva X, aside from a few cool new modules and a couple songs including this absolute masterpiece, was fairly disappointing (to me anyway)
Future Tone drops the weak story mode along with the Room Designer Sim and Vocaloid-Amie stuff from previous games and just gives you freaking two hundred twenty-four songs to play (including alternate vocals for a handful of them) for about $54
That's
That's just amazing, I don't even know what else to say
The only real downsides I can come up with is there's no physical version (oh well) and no song edit mode where you can make your own music videos (never felt up to dumping the hours and hours that takes to do one anyway)
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Half of that team, not counting the starter, is what I tend to get from those locations a lot.
I should go back to doing the "2nd encounter counts" part. Or third.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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