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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:02 am

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While I wouldn't trust VGChartz's numbers, two of Aksys' higher-ups are members on NeoGAF and have mentioned on multiple occasions that they're extremely happy with the sales numbers and that they'd love to localize the sequel.

You don't need to put much "trust" in these numbers to view them as a pretty good sign. Even if their accuracy isn't excellent, as long as they aren't completely random and baseless (which they aren't) they clearly show that 999 sold much more in the US than in Japan. It then follows that not releasing the sequel in the US is illogical.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:05 am

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Bolt Storm wrote:

While I wouldn't trust VGChartz's numbers, two of Aksys' higher-ups are members on NeoGAF and have mentioned on multiple occasions that they're extremely happy with the sales numbers and that they'd love to localize the sequel.

You don't need to put much "trust" in these numbers to view them as a pretty good sign. Even if their accuracy isn't excellent, as long as they aren't completely random and baseless (which they aren't) they clearly show that 999 sold much more in the US than in Japan. It then follows that not releasing the sequel in the US is illogical.

That's the thing. Sometimes VGCharts IS completely random and baseless. I remember Capcom saying that <Some Game I can't remember the title of>'s stats on VGCharts was double what was actually manufactured.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:06 am

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That game was actually the AA series; Sven said VGChartz were double or higher actual sales for the games.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:42 am

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Wooster wrote:

groupoid wrote:

Bolt Storm wrote:

While I wouldn't trust VGChartz's numbers, two of Aksys' higher-ups are members on NeoGAF and have mentioned on multiple occasions that they're extremely happy with the sales numbers and that they'd love to localize the sequel.

You don't need to put much "trust" in these numbers to view them as a pretty good sign. Even if their accuracy isn't excellent, as long as they aren't completely random and baseless (which they aren't) they clearly show that 999 sold much more in the US than in Japan. It then follows that not releasing the sequel in the US is illogical.

That's the thing. Sometimes VGCharts IS completely random and baseless. I remember Capcom saying that <Some Game I can't remember the title of>'s stats on VGCharts was double what was actually manufactured.

That might well be the case, but that doesn't make the numbers purely random. The problem with vgchartz is that their sample margin isn't too big and not necessarily representative of the market as a whole.
But that alone won't suffice to make a case here: by all means let's say the US number is doubled and the JP number is halved. My point would still hold.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:34 pm

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Manson wrote:

Did the first game actually sell well? Don't get me wrong, I loved the first game, but I don't really remember seeing the game being sold anywhere on the high streets.

Well if your location of being in Scotland is true, it wouldn't have been anywhere. It wasn't released here. I was thinking the same thing when I first got interested in 999, I'd never seen it any shops.

Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:33 pm

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If the numbers are true, Aksys would be mad not to localise this - it sold much better in the US than Japan.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:15 am

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Apparently the Vita will be released in Japan in December, so I'd think we have to wait til at least 2013 for 999-2 :(

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:47 pm

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samboo1 wrote:

Manson wrote:

Did the first game actually sell well? Don't get me wrong, I loved the first game, but I don't really remember seeing the game being sold anywhere on the high streets.

Well if your location of being in Scotland is true, it wouldn't have been anywhere. It wasn't released here. I was thinking the same thing when I first got interested in 999, I'd never seen it any shops.

Well, that explains why my copy of 999 from eBay was American. Jesus though, that's a hell of a lot of copies for a completely unadvertised, M-rated DS game. Good for Aksys.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:13 pm

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Also had a thought (when looking at the PW v PL thread) maybe the 3D models will be changed or touched up! The game is still a long way off, so we shouldnt judge the final graphics quality from an early trailer for a half finished game (running on Youtube).

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Wed Sep 14, 2011 7:48 pm

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Here are my nicknames for characters:
Speed Racer - Cuz of the jumpsuit
Mrs. Claus - fem version of Santa
Oldbag - male version of Oldbag
Underboob - ^^'
Emo - Look at the trailer
Magician - He looks like a magician!
Lah Lah - She looks like an airhead who's just going "lalalalala" to me
Hatty - He wears a hat
Sam - He looks sorta like the steel SAMurai (and I like having the crazier character have such an unassuming name xD)

Okay massive theory dump and stuff...

Spoiler: 999

To be honest, I don't think there will be partners or anything like that. There's an odd number of people, and I don't think (and don't hope) someone will be killed off at the start.

Because of the futuristic sci-fi anesthetic, I don't think it's a prequel to 999, although that idea about Underboob being frozen in Ice-9 and being mistaken for an egyptian princess is interesting. IIRC, the writer confirmed Alice as having actually existed, but didn't confirm that the woman at the end of 999 was really Alice. (In the interview, I think he said, "That shot was to confirm that Alice actually existed. However, was that really Alice, or June sending Junpei an image through the morphogenetic field...?") Also to the people saying Underboob looks exactly like Alice, the writer explicitly stated that the picture of Alice in 999 was not what Alice actually looked like, but what Junpei imagined her to look like.

I don't think Emo is clover, or Underboob is Alice. To be honest, the only one I could see is Oldbag being a really old Junpei...

There's been lots of debate and confusion over who has what number. Because the numbers are so important, I think they might specifically be throwing out random numbers at this point just so they don't give it away :P however, because of the ambidex thing, I think each bracelet will have multiple numbers, whether each person gets to choose which number to use, or some 'event' causes the numbers to switch. (At first I thought they'd have a bracelet on each arm, but... doesn't look like that's happening.)

A lot of people have been complaining about Sam and the rabbit, but I think the rabbit is just a 'mascot' for the mastermind (like Jigsaw was in the Saw movies), and I'm sure there's a good reason for Sam being there. (999 really does not seem like the sort of game where they would throw in a robot for teh lulz)

Now then... the plot. Me and my friend tried to basically take everything in the trailer and work it in xD Anyway, the Special Department of Defense Agency (or w/e it is) was trying to use an antimatter bomb to stop a pandemic (or something). They put it into an Electrogolem or something so that it could use it. Being a robot, it has the 3 laws of robotics programmed into it. However, it breaks the laws and betrays the humans, killing one of them, so that the pandemic happens. The purpose of the Ambidex Game is to 're-program' the robot to show it that betrayal can only lead to despair, and that it should cooperate. They want to use the power of the blood-stained moon to amplify the morphogenetic field to send the information the robot learns to its past self (maybe something about rhizomes fits here, too xD). The person who created the robots is Hatty (who's a kid genius; this is cuz of that screenshot of everyone but Hatty, Sam, and Speed Racer dead xD). They want you to think that Sam is the electrogolem, but the huge twist at the end is that the electrogolem is actually Speed Racer; the corpse in the elevator is the person he killed, and after he killed him/her, breaking the laws of robotics overloaded him, causing the memory loss.

Sub-theories: Underboob will not have as strong a link to it as the others and will not know what's going on, like Lotus in 999. Emo will try to screw everyone over at the beginning. They'll convince her to trust them and work through it, but Magician will secretly do... something that lets him do what Emo wanted to do, and he tries to use it as a trump card later.

Also in the trailer, there's a really short clip of what looks like... Lah Lah, making a massive leap. I want to know what that is... (There was also a shot of Mrs. Claus being shot through the air or something. I think those two shots are related...)

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:41 pm

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Manson wrote:

samboo1 wrote:

Manson wrote:

Did the first game actually sell well? Don't get me wrong, I loved the first game, but I don't really remember seeing the game being sold anywhere on the high streets.

Well if your location of being in Scotland is true, it wouldn't have been anywhere. It wasn't released here. I was thinking the same thing when I first got interested in 999, I'd never seen it any shops.

Well, that explains why my copy of 999 from eBay was American. Jesus though, that's a hell of a lot of copies for a completely unadvertised, M-rated DS game. Good for Aksys.

Well, many reviews were freaking glowing, they were. Had IGN not given it a 9.0 I probably would never have noticed the existence of the game, and that would have been tragic.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:00 pm

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Bad Player wrote:

Here are my nicknames for characters:
Speed Racer - Cuz of the jumpsuit
Mrs. Claus - fem version of Santa
Oldbag - male version of Oldbag
Underboob - ^^'
Emo - Look at the trailer
Magician - He looks like a magician!
Lah Lah - She looks like an airhead who's just going "lalalalala" to me
Hatty - He wears a hat
Sam - He looks sorta like the steel SAMurai (and I like having the crazier character have such an unassuming name xD)

Okay massive theory dump and stuff...

Spoiler: 999

To be honest, I don't think there will be partners or anything like that. There's an odd number of people, and I don't think (and don't hope) someone will be killed off at the start.

Because of the futuristic sci-fi anesthetic, I don't think it's a prequel to 999, although that idea about Underboob being frozen in Ice-9 and being mistaken for an egyptian princess is interesting. IIRC, the writer confirmed Alice as having actually existed, but didn't confirm that the woman at the end of 999 was really Alice. (In the interview, I think he said, "That shot was to confirm that Alice actually existed. However, was that really Alice, or June sending Junpei an image through the morphogenetic field...?") Also to the people saying Underboob looks exactly like Alice, the writer explicitly stated that the picture of Alice in 999 was not what Alice actually looked like, but what Junpei imagined her to look like.

I don't think Emo is clover, or Underboob is Alice. To be honest, the only one I could see is Oldbag being a really old Junpei...

There's been lots of debate and confusion over who has what number. Because the numbers are so important, I think they might specifically be throwing out random numbers at this point just so they don't give it away :P however, because of the ambidex thing, I think each bracelet will have multiple numbers, whether each person gets to choose which number to use, or some 'event' causes the numbers to switch. (At first I thought they'd have a bracelet on each arm, but... doesn't look like that's happening.)

A lot of people have been complaining about Sam and the rabbit, but I think the rabbit is just a 'mascot' for the mastermind (like Jigsaw was in the Saw movies), and I'm sure there's a good reason for Sam being there. (999 really does not seem like the sort of game where they would throw in a robot for teh lulz)

Now then... the plot. Me and my friend tried to basically take everything in the trailer and work it in xD Anyway, the Special Department of Defense Agency (or w/e it is) was trying to use an antimatter bomb to stop a pandemic (or something). They put it into an Electrogolem or something so that it could use it. Being a robot, it has the 3 laws of robotics programmed into it. However, it breaks the laws and betrays the humans, killing one of them, so that the pandemic happens. The purpose of the Ambidex Game is to 're-program' the robot to show it that betrayal can only lead to despair, and that it should cooperate. They want to use the power of the blood-stained moon to amplify the morphogenetic field to send the information the robot learns to its past self (maybe something about rhizomes fits here, too xD). The person who created the robots is Hatty (who's a kid genius; this is cuz of that screenshot of everyone but Hatty, Sam, and Speed Racer dead xD). They want you to think that Sam is the electrogolem, but the huge twist at the end is that the electrogolem is actually Speed Racer; the corpse in the elevator is the person he killed, and after he killed him/her, breaking the laws of robotics overloaded him, causing the memory loss.

Sub-theories: Underboob will not have as strong a link to it as the others and will not know what's going on, like Lotus in 999. Emo will try to screw everyone over at the beginning. They'll convince her to trust them and work through it, but Magician will secretly do... something that lets him do what Emo wanted to do, and he tries to use it as a trump card later.

Also in the trailer, there's a really short clip of what looks like... Lah Lah, making a massive leap. I want to know what that is... (There was also a shot of Mrs. Claus being shot through the air or something. I think those two shots are related...)

Those are some confusing nicknames... only Speedracer and Magician work for me... And am I the only one who thinks the Magician might just be yet another female?

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:14 am

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Well they work for me :P

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:45 pm

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The guy in the hat looks like Willy Wonka.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:37 pm

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I've been thinking:

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:56 pm

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grim_tales wrote:

I've been thinking:

Spoiler:

grim_tales, you're awesome for keeping this thread alive :D

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:42 pm

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Jack Lamber wrote:

grim_tales wrote:

I've been thinking:

Spoiler:

grim_tales, you're awesome for keeping this thread alive :D

Spoiler:

Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:09 pm

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samboo1 wrote:

Jack Lamber wrote:

grim_tales wrote:

I've been thinking:

Spoiler:

grim_tales, you're awesome for keeping this thread alive :D

Spoiler:

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:15 pm

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I agree I don't want Junpei to be an old fart - I certainly don't want the old guy to be Snake.
What if its a prequel and the woman that looks like June is her mum or something?

Spoiler:

I wanted to keep this thread alive as I need my 999 fix :D

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:53 pm

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That explains it :larry2:

I got my 999 fix by reading you and samboo's comments as you played the game through for the first time.
Seriously, that is quite entertaining... uuugh, and now I need to find MORE people and make them play the game as well!

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:07 am

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Wonder when we'll hear any more news about it - maybe when the Vita is out in Japan?
I'm even considering signing up for Twitter so I can see what Aksys have to say. I can't join the Aksys or NeoGAF forums for some reason :(

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:38 pm

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I'm sure we'll see more info once the game is finished.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:22 pm

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Hey,
It looks like the title changed to Extreme Escape Adventure: Trust or Betrayal.

Bah, I was liking Good People Die :D

http://www.pushsquare.com/31157/tgs-11- ... tion-vita/

What does "tentative" mean, does that mean the game isnt finished yet?
Personally I hope they change the title for English release. Trust or Betrayal sounds too spoilering.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:40 pm

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Actually, the full translation is "Emergency Escape Adventure: Trust or Betrayal" - but the official site still lists it as "Extreme Escape Adventure: Good People Die". Perhaps the 3DS and Vita versions will be significantly different?

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:54 pm

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In a way I hope they're not - as I don't want to spend money twice :D But the twist in the 1st one that gave you a reason for using the DS itself was brilliant.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:06 pm

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It remains the only time I've ever had a legitimate reason to hold the DS upside down.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:46 pm

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It remains the only time I've ever had a legitimate reason to hold the DS upside down.

So have you ever held the DS upside down just for the sake of it? :redd:

I wonder how different the 3DS version will be from the Vita. Is it safe to assume there will be a narrator again? Because I really can't see how they could make that work in the Vita version. In the DS, the dialogue showed up in the top screen, and the narration showed up in the bottom screen. You can't really fit all that in just one screen, unless there's no narration at all...

Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:05 pm

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They sorta ran into that problem with Touch Detective on iOS after being a DS title. On the DS Mackenzi's monologue would be on the bottom screen, and her dialog on the top with everyone else. It was interesting on the DS how while interviewing the client, her thoughts were on anything but the matter at hand. On iOS, it was just confusing, as it was all handled on the same screen without a dividing context.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:11 pm

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grim_tales wrote:

Hey,
It looks like the title changed to Extreme Escape Adventure: Trust or Betrayal.

Bah, I was liking Good People Die :D

http://www.pushsquare.com/31157/tgs-11- ... tion-vita/

What does "tentative" mean, does that mean the game isnt finished yet?
Personally I hope they change the title for English release. Trust or Betrayal sounds too spoilering.

I think the "tentative" means that it's their translation of the japanese title, not the official localized title. I like "Good People Die" too xD
(Except there's also the fact that the title doesn't translate to "Trust or Betrayal". The first part of the title is in kanji, so it's definitely "good people". The rest is in kana, and it's 'shibou', which can mean 'death' or 'desire' (or 'fat') so... To be honest, I hope it's supposed to sound like "good people die" but have a real meaning of "good people's wishes")

I really really hope the Vita and 3DS versions are the same. I mean, if you're going to tell the story, tell it the same to everyone... (Although I'm a bit sick of seeing "Vita" and "Vita" alone when talking about this game T_T)

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:42 pm

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Hmm... "Good People are Fat"...

THE VILLIAN IS AN ANOREXIC. [/joke]

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:21 am

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Wooster wrote:

Hmm... "Good People are Fat"...

THE VILLIAN IS AN ANOREXIC. [/joke]

That is the official name of the parody

(the official parody of 999 is "Urinary Game", named when my friend misread the title of the song 'unary game' from the soundtrack...)

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:34 pm

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Hey,
I've been wondering about the voice acting and how it will work. If they keep the Japanese voices, but subtitle it using localised dialogue, maybe the subtitles won't fully reflect what's being said. But a good translation may not be a literal translation when we're dealing with Japanese of course.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:55 pm

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Bad Player wrote:

grim_tales wrote:

Hey,
It looks like the title changed to Extreme Escape Adventure: Trust or Betrayal.

Bah, I was liking Good People Die :D

http://www.pushsquare.com/31157/tgs-11- ... tion-vita/

What does "tentative" mean, does that mean the game isnt finished yet?
Personally I hope they change the title for English release. Trust or Betrayal sounds too spoilering.

I think the "tentative" means that it's their translation of the japanese title, not the official localized title. I like "Good People Die" too xD
(Except there's also the fact that the title doesn't translate to "Trust or Betrayal". The first part of the title is in kanji, so it's definitely "good people". The rest is in kana, and it's 'shibou', which can mean 'death' or 'desire' (or 'fat') so... To be honest, I hope it's supposed to sound like "good people die" but have a real meaning of "good people's wishes")

I really really hope the Vita and 3DS versions are the same. I mean, if you're going to tell the story, tell it the same to everyone... (Although I'm a bit sick of seeing "Vita" and "Vita" alone when talking about this game T_T)

Yeah, there's really no way you can get "Trust or Betrayal" out of "全員シボウデス." My guess is that the "translator" knew little to no Japanese and just went off summaries of the game's plot. Though at least it's not as bizarre as getting "Trinity Sight System Theme" out of "トッポ・ネイ・シャボンのテーマ" (the actual translation is "Toppo/Nei/Shabon's Theme") :yuusaku:

Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:51 am

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grim_tales wrote:

Hey,
I've been wondering about the voice acting and how it will work. If they keep the Japanese voices, but subtitle it using localised dialogue, maybe the subtitles won't fully reflect what's being said. But a good translation may not be a literal translation when we're dealing with Japanese of course.

Japanese voices with English subtitles seems almost certainly the way it will go. There were comments to that effect on neogaf by the Akysis guys who frequent the place. It would probably be very economically unwise trying to actually dub, as the profit margins for VN aren't that big to start with.

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:30 am

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More thoughts:

Spoiler:

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:57 pm

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Sat Sep 24, 2011 2:37 pm

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IMO,

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I really should watch the Saw films... :D

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:04 pm

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Bump - bump - bump - bump - bump - bump - bump

Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:17 pm

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Yeah, you're right.

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Talking about this game and 999 is fun :D

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Re: 999 Sequel Announced (3DS/Vita)

Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:29 pm

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Yeah, it is. And I like how we know nothing about it now, so we can through out all the insane theories we want :D

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