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I agree that items are great fun Pierre and I'll gladly play lots of matches with both of them on, but I think those are more suited for normal fun matches instead of this tournament. Your remark is noted though.
If more players want items and or stage hazards I'll incorporate them into the tournament so if people want them included: make your voices heard here. If around 50% (so currently at least 5 players) want them on then that's going to be the way we roll. If no other people object to the current rules then it'll be Final Destination version only with no items.
People will have until 5 October to submit their entry and voice their opinion on the matter: items yes/no and stage hazards yes/no. After this date I'm going to arrange the brackets and look for a date that will suit most people.
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I'm down for joining. As for opinions? Yes for items, no for stage hazards.
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It might end up making it a bit more work, but why not let the people in each match decide? The point is to have fun, and if one pair wants to play with items/hazards and another doesn't, why does that really matter? (But to then eliminate arguments, if either play doesn't want items or stage hazards, they shouldn't have them; that is, "no" beats "yes.")
Another thing you need to consider: customization, yay or nay. (I think you should allow for customized movesets, but don't allow them to equip anything. One issue is that you can't actually check to make sure people haven't equipped anything, but... hopefully we can all trust each other?)
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Current rules:
First player to win 2 matches advances (So best of 3 matches) in the tournament
Match type: stock matches with 3 lives per match.
Matches will be 1 vs 1 player
Buffs are a no go! (if they exist)
Poll results:
Stage hazards: 2 Against, 2 Pro , 2 Don't care & 6 not Decided
Items: 1 Against, 3 Pro , 2 Don't care & 6 not Decided
Custom move sets: 0 Against, 0 Pro , 1 Don't care & 11 not Decided
Customization of lets say Mii characters are fine in my book, custom move sets aren't really broken as far as I've heard so it should be OK. I don't know if you can buff characters with stickers or something, but let's leave those out.
I'd do like universal rules for the tournament since it makes things more fair. If you want to play someone with different rules, go ahead! I mean, you can play any way you want outside of the tournament right?
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I mean, isn't it nice to minimize the number of people playing a way they don't want to?
I guess it's a bit iffy when one person wants them and another don't, but if A and B face each other and both want items, and C and D face each other and both don't want items, why not fair if A and B use items, and C and D don't?
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Though I'm fine with custom movesets, I imagine they are balanced and tweaked anyway.
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Bad Player wrote:
The "universal rule" can be that the players decide
I mean, isn't it nice to minimize the number of people playing a way they don't want to?
I guess it's a bit iffy when one person wants them and another don't, but if A and B face each other and both want items, and C and D face each other and both don't want items, why not fair if A and B use items, and C and D don't?
I mean, isn't it nice to minimize the number of people playing a way they don't want to?
I guess it's a bit iffy when one person wants them and another don't, but if A and B face each other and both want items, and C and D face each other and both don't want items, why not fair if A and B use items, and C and D don't?
Well, what's the point of organizing a tournament if everyone plays by his own rules? In your case I don't see the benefit of making brackets and see who comes out on top, since the means to measure victory will keep changing depending on the players. In your scenario wouldn't it be better to simply exchange friend codes and asking (through PM or other means) to play in the way you want?
You're noted Mijumaru, total of 14 players now.
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As for the poll, yes for the items. No for the stage hazards.
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Stage Hazards: It doesn't really make a difference to me, but I think that having stages that aren't just flat blocks is part of the Smash Bros. appeal.
Items: Yes for some, no for others.
Custom Movesets: Doesn't make a difference to me.
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Stage hazards are fair game as everyone can get hit,
Note that it is not true for all stage hazards. The Earthbound stage for example features Flying Man spawning on the far right, who becomes an ally to the first one to touch him. You will learn to love him as your own ally and utterly hate him as your opponent's ally. Especially in 1 on 1's, which effectively turn into 1 on 2's.
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Pierre wrote:
Why don't we just save the administration and just do the full-on casual scrub league then maybe do a serious "For Glory" tournament later.
Eh, but I like it half-ish of both. Like... I don't mind different stages, just some hazards are silly. Same with items. Some items are good. Others are bad.
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I always played with items in Brawl, I had a good time KOing people with baseball bats.
But some items (like the ray gun and deku nut) are just annoying , so some items should be banned.
Stage hazards doubles the fun.
But if no one can come to a convlusion, we'll just have to SETTLE IT IN SMASH
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Or something like that, them's the rules as far as I can remember.
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>Items
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Filthy casuals
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SquareMelonBread wrote:
But if no one can come to a convlusion, we'll just have to SETTLE IT IN SMASH
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Bad Player wrote:
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But if no one can come to a convlusion, we'll just have to SETTLE IT IN SMASH
host a smash tournament, winner decides rules of the smash tournament
We could add a Fluxx-like addition to the game. Like, we play Smash Bros using new rules given by the rule changes we create. "Everyone must be a non-human-or-hylian character", or "B moves only", or something like that.
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>Items
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Filthy casuals
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Yeah, why actually use what's programmed into the game? That's official pokemon tournaments use smogon rules.
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genodragon1 wrote:
We could add a Fluxx-like addition to the game. Like, we play Smash Bros using new rules given by the rule changes we create. "Everyone must be a non-human-or-hylian character", or "B moves only", or something like that.
YES! I'd still be able to use Shulk under those conditions!
>inb4 'that was a joke'
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Alonso Swift wrote:
genodragon1 wrote:
We could add a Fluxx-like addition to the game. Like, we play Smash Bros using new rules given by the rule changes we create. "Everyone must be a non-human-or-hylian character", or "B moves only", or something like that.
YES! I'd still be able to use Shulk under those conditions!
>inb4 'that was a joke'
Basically, it'd run like that. Like "to win this match, you must place 3rd of 4 places", or "play hot potato with Villager's tree, KO's only done via this method".
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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Also is it possible to spectate on friends matches? If so we could totally get a
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Pierre wrote:
Fluxx is fantastic, but I'm not sure it's suited to Smash XD
Also is it possible to spectate on friends matches? If so we could totally get ascam good bit of fun in the spectator pools what with the betting system.
Also is it possible to spectate on friends matches? If so we could totally get a
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I'd be up for it, but I've been so busy, I doubt I'd have time to join. If you guys do a tournament during the Christmas Holidays though, I'd definitely be down for it.
We could always host a second tournament if the 1st one is a succes. Or at least I'll get feedback on what can be improved.
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Stage hazards: 4 Against, 4 Pro , 3 Don't care & 3 not Decided
Items: 2 Against, 8 Pro , 2 Don't care & 2 not Decided
Custom move sets: 0 Against, 1 Pro , 2 Don't care & 11 not Decided
Looks like the items question is partially settled so the new set rules will be:
Match type: stock matches with 3 lives per match.
Matches will be 1 vs 1 player
Items: On. Although a ban of certain items is still up for debate
Buffs are a no go! (if they exist)
Seems like most people want Items to be on, so that's going to be the way it is. I Propose a medium drop rate if this is the case. Any Items that need to be banned?
The stage hazard question is pretty even. If this is the case I'll offer a compromise: Players are allowed to pick stages themselves. If the players cannot agree a 'final destination stage' will be chosen first. After the first match the loser is allowed to pick the next stage, all options included.
I would like some more feedback regarding the custom move set question, but as it stands people don't seem to have a problem with it. If this trend continues they will be allowed.
DoMaya, do you also want to enter the tournament?
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Pierre wrote:
Ban the Beetle and the Galaga swarm. Pretty much those easy OHKO weapons.
The drill thing from Kicarus is also pretty strong.
(Also this is just personal preference, but can we ban the poison mushrooms too? I can never tell the two apart lol)
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Bad Player wrote:
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Ban the Beetle and the Galaga swarm. Pretty much those easy OHKO weapons.
The drill thing from Kicarus is also pretty strong.
(Also this is just personal preference, but can we ban the poison mushrooms too? I can never tell the two apart lol)
Regarding the drill, it is only strong if it hits anyone. And, wait, does the poison mushroom do damage, or does it just shrink you? Because I think being small has it's advantages.
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Pierre wrote:
Ban the Beetle and the Galaga swarm. Pretty much those easy OHKO weapons.
The drill thing from Kicarus is also pretty strong.
(Also this is just personal preference, but can we ban the poison mushrooms too? I can never tell the two apart lol)
Regarding the drill, it is only strong if it hits anyone. And, wait, does the poison mushroom do damage, or does it just shrink you? Because I think being small has it's advantages.
I'm not sure what the galaga swarm is (that 3 piece thing?), but the beetle is annoying as fuck. Consider it banned
Drill is fine in my opinion. It's strong, but not overpowered
The poison mushroom only works with the normal one. This way you'll create a risk vs reward situation. I'ts ok by me.
On the topic of items: what about the hammer? or the gold hammer?
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The Galaga thing is the little spaceship that you throw and it 'abducts' someone right off the top of the stage
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If it's a 'both or none' situation, though, I'm fine with both.
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I'm not sure what the galaga swarm is (that 3 piece thing?), but the beetle is annoying as fuck. Consider it banned
Galaga Swarm is the pixel ship thingy... the 3-piece thing is Genesis (although I think it has a different English name)
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Drill is fine in my opinion. It's strong, but not overpowered
It's not too hard to OHKO someone with the drill tho ~_~ It's not as easy as with the beetle or galaga ship, but still
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The poison mushroom only works with the normal one. This way you'll create a risk vs reward situation. I'ts ok by me.
What's wrong with just having a 'reward'? It's how all the items (except the hammers) function. I personally find it really annoying and frustrating to have to tell the difference between a slight color tint in the middle of a fray, especially now that it's on the smaller 3DS screen.
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On the topic of items: what about the hammer? or the gold hammer?
On one hand, I don't really mind the hammers. On the other hand, I really like to play Ike and Old Manondorf :L
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HEALING ITEMS ONLY. NO ATTACKING. JUST STANDING.
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