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Walter White wrote:
How about just have no items at all and fight with just skill like the game should be played.
Cept by default items stage hazards and platforms are turned ON ergo: that's how the game SHOULD be played.
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Pierre wrote:
Walter White wrote:
How about just have no items at all and fight with just skill like the game should be played.
Cept by default items stage hazards and platforms are turned ON ergo: that's how the game SHOULD be played.
No items at all. The match should be determined by how well a play can use his character tothe best of their abilities without the need of help. How a true smash player should be.
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Really, though, there is no "true" way. Everyone just happens to have preferences.
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sumguy28 wrote:
THE ONLY WAY TO TRULY PLAY SMASH BROS IS TO NOT PLAY AT ALL!
HOW ABOUT BURNING THE SMASH GAME AND THEN USING THE FLAMES TO MAKE SMORES!
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sumguy28 wrote:
THE ONLY WAY TO TRULY PLAY SMASH BROS IS TO NOT PLAY AT ALL!
Really, though, there is no "true" way. Everyone just happens to have preferences.
Really, though, there is no "true" way. Everyone just happens to have preferences.
Basically the point I've been trying to make.
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Walter White wrote:
How about just have no items at all and fight with just skill like the game should be played.
Cept by default items stage hazards and platforms are turned ON ergo: that's how the game SHOULD be played.
No items at all. The match should be determined by how well a play can use his character tothe best of their abilities without the need of help. How a true smash player should be.
So your abilities are entirely limited by a common game mechanic that's been in there since the beginning? What, so a true smash player only mains Fox (and/or Falco), no items, final destination? I get that some characters are objectively better (that tends to happen in fighters where gamer complacency happens), but there's no logical reason to not use anything you want to as long as it's provided in the game.
Anyway, I just really don't like this "true x" BS. It's not only a fallacy (not only its own fallacy, but it also runs into the fallacy of the pile: where is the dividing line on a true smash player- and by extension, gamer?), but it's frankly a sign of blind obstinance as opposed to actual skill.
If you have a preference for no items and final destination, that's fine- but your preference (even if the most vocal smash fans agree) isn't indicative of the entire audience. If this were a real tournament with prizes involved, maybe we'd play it closer to how it's played in actual tournaments (where you'll see that while items aren't used in the finals, they are used in at least the quarter finals).
Walter White wrote:
sumguy28 wrote:
THE ONLY WAY TO TRULY PLAY SMASH BROS IS TO NOT PLAY AT ALL!
HOW ABOUT BURNING THE SMASH GAME AND THEN USING THE FLAMES TO MAKE SMORES!
Yeah, but that'd sorta put a damper on the resale value.
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Oh he's likely to get that item before me how can I deal with that using what's close to hand? Can you reflect it? Is there a better item near you that can counter him? Can you outmanouver him and render the item worthless? Are you better off just staying clear? If so what's the best escape route?
There's a whole other layer of play and skill introduced with items.
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Are final smashes allowed in this tournament? I'm pretty sure that everyone who is taking part in the tournament might need to voice their opinion on whenever final smashes should be allowed in the tournament.
In my opinion, final smashes is okay as long as there's more than one player on the field. But 1 vs. 1? Most likely not allowed, because it would be very unfair to the other player.
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BlueAttorney4ever wrote:
Hey, I noticed that no one mentioned anything about final smashes.
*cough*
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Perhaps establish a rule that if you kill with it play stops until it ends. Thinking about the likes of pikachu and sonic who have the potential to deal damage after they ko someone with a final smash.
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BlueAttorney4ever wrote:
Hey, I noticed that no one mentioned anything about final smashes.
You all sound like a bunch of wanna-be MLGs who wanna be in a Smash Bros tournament.
While we are removing final smashes, do you want us to pull numbers out of a hat to decide what set character we have to play as? Any other thing that make Smash Bros fun that you want out of your MLG game?
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Bad Player wrote:
To put my two cents in, I don't like final smashes in 1v1s.
What he said! What he said!
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Bad Player wrote:
Sorry, I didn't see that.
As for the topic of deciding which set character we have to play as....
I'd say we pick the character we are good at playing as.
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fox final destination no items
that's the only real way to play this game
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Bad Player wrote:
no way man
fox final destination no items
that's the only real way to play this game
fox final destination no items
that's the only real way to play this game
The rest are only bells and whistles. PSH. Plus, all the other characters
/sarcasm
But in all seriousness, while I like being jokey, I'd rather not win the argument through insults. It's fine, even if they are "wannabes", as it's admirable to have a goal. We just have a difference of opinion. If the rules prohibit someone's enjoyment, then they to try to convince us otherwise or just not participate in the tournament.
This argument is pointless, anyway. Why not make compromises? Why just have one tournament upon which everything hinges?
List of possible compromises that may include (but aren't limited to) to discuss:
- Tier the rounds so that some stages are only used for doubles, some stages are only used for free for all, some stages are only used for duels. Same with items.
- My idea of having Fluxx-like rule changes.
- Have separate tournaments. Tournament A is for No Items Final Destination, Tournament B has everything, Tournament C has a mix, etc.
We don't have to limit ourselves, yeah? We are gamers! Our media and its fans are defined by its penchant for creativity and resourcefulness. Let's put that to good use, and work to find an amicable solution that we can all agree to!
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Much like in the original game, you have to stay hidden while 9Volt's mom checks up on you. If she catches you, however...
Game over man, game over! A scolding and a likely instant kill await you.
Also, here's the boxart and Amazon preorder page for the Wii U controller bundle:
As for the tournament, perhaps we're going about this the wrong way. We should probably just have a vote using the in-game designations to keep things simple, since they seem to cover the biggest issues you guys have been discussing.
For Fun: If you want to reach the broadest range possible, going with this is probably the best option. Items (on standard appearance levels), stage hazards, custom movesets allowed.
For Glory: If you want it to be a battle of pure skill, these rules should be utilized. No items, Omega stages only, no custom movesets.
Pick one, whichever gets the most votes will be used for the tournament. We can tweak any additional details (final smashes, disabling OP items, etc.) once the more pressing issues are resolved.
And finally, I'd like to remind everyone that there is no right or wrong way to play Smash Bros. It's fine to have preferences, but that doesn't give you the right to insult those that don't agree with you. Keep it civil.
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Matches will be 1 vs 1 player
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Banned Items: Beetle, Galaga swarm
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Bad Player wrote:
The thing is that Final Smashes are basically as much OHKOs as the beetle and galaga swarm are
Maybe for some, sometimes it's completely bearable or avoidable. Plus they are a great deal more fun than the beetle or Galaga swarm.
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genodragon1 wrote:
Eh. Well, I for one am glad that the objectification has taken a little bit of a step back. It's not like I wanted to see the panties of childhood character. That shit is creepy.
It wasn't objectification at all. Peach's undergarments were never presented in a sexual way in SSB.
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It's probably because so many people perved out over them. Though I do like the fact that Rosalina keeps an entire universe under her dress, though (I saw a GFAQs topic on this a day or two ago). But seriosuly, there's a lot of porn on the internet, why do you need it in your video games?
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DoMaya wrote:
genodragon1 wrote:
It's probably because so many people perved out over them. Though I do like the fact that Rosalina keeps an entire universe under her dress, though (I saw a GFAQs topic on this a day or two ago). But seriosuly, there's a lot of porn on the internet, why do you need it in your video games?
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The difference here is that no matter the distance of the characters on screen, the width of the outlines remains the same. In other words, the further away the camera pulls (and the smaller the fighters appear), the more visible the outlines will appear to be.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
The Wii U version gets the outlines too:
The difference here is that no matter the distance of the characters on screen, the width of the outlines remains the same. In other words, the further away the camera pulls (and the smaller the fighters appear), the more visible the outlines will appear to be.
The difference here is that no matter the distance of the characters on screen, the width of the outlines remains the same. In other words, the further away the camera pulls (and the smaller the fighters appear), the more visible the outlines will appear to be.
Might also be used for team-marking based on how there's two colours marking 4 fighters up there.
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SquareMelonBread wrote:
I have now participated in 3 tournaments across the web.
Japanese version?
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Pierre wrote:
SquareMelonBread wrote:
I have now participated in 3 tournaments across the web.
Japanese version?
Oh sorry, I meant that I have signed up for three tournaments.
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The stage begins aboard the Great Fox. Team Star Fox defends the gate from missiles, which can be used as platforms for a short while:
Eventually the team goes through the gate, where the fighting shifts to atop the arwings as they proceed:
Sakurai describes the stage in general as a "wild and hectic ride", so while it's probably not the most fair stage to fight on, it looks pretty damn awesome to me.
Pierre wrote:
Might also be used for team-marking based on how there's two colours marking 4 fighters up there.
That's a feature in the 3DS version as well, isn't it? That's how no one's locked into using their matching alt color to their team color anymore.
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