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Are we assuming the bomber wins if Lucky escapes?

Is that why people think it would be an okay idea to vote for something that lets Lucky through to his victory?
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Plus if they were a team, Giggles would've voted Option A. It's an easy ally-victory for the Zero team
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Doctor Nanjo wrote:
Are we assuming the bomber wins if Lucky escapes?

Is that why people think it would be an okay idea to vote for something that lets Lucky through to his victory?

If Lucky decides to escape while the bomber is still alive/the bomb is still active, EVERYBODY dies. Nobody wins, including the bomber

But that's only how it worked in my game so it's just speculation
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I mean Franzise heavily implied only living players can win, so you're probably right.
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pls dont kill me g1gg135

Lucky, Nanjo and Jesus were going to confess their crimes. You can say that we can't know that for sure, but they confessed that they were going to commit a crime. Why not confess that they actually committed it? You acted like you weren't the murderer and not only that, you accused me and Jesus (a person who you said you believe to be innocent). I don't know how you can still act like you're not the bad guy.
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He supposedly knew that Lucky was Zero,right?

Then how come that he kept calling ME zero? And that he betrayed me when he was in a pair with Lucky? And one of his posts say something along the lines of "I wasn't lying" when you mentioned his role,so wouldn't that be the same as claiming a.k.a breaking the rules of his supposed role?

I can answer the first two!

This is my first mafia/whatever game so I was kind of just gonna troll but I've actually gotten into it now. Anyway, if I did strongly believe Lucky was Zero (though I'm vanilla), I would want to vote for a choice which would put me in a group with him (which I did). The original plan was to all-betray. I was gonna go against you and Lucky and choose ally, then lie and say that Lucky was saying we'd both ally to get a lead. Dirty and stupid, but like I said I kind of just wanted to fuck around

Anyway, Jesus revealed to me that the roles were all possibly bullshit so I began to actually trust Lucky (he can attest to that). Then Jesus said that the roles were probably true because the game was rigged otherwise so I betrayed you because JM's role PM said you were Zero. Lucky getting extra points didn't matter because Jesus wanted to kill Lucky anyway
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Additionally, there's no difference between 7 and 8 BP when the endgoal is 9. So giving Zero three extra points is fine when you want at least two points yourself
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Sounds like no-one trusts no one anymore.

Like Neptune, I also had the doubt about role PMs for a while, then I resolved myself to count on what few rules existed when everything went south and people started plotting to kill me.
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I trust jumpfight!
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Though I'm not saying Pierre is Zero because he wanted to ally Cesar, I think jumpfight earns some "non-Zero" points for betraying Cesar

As I've said, why would Zero care? If jumpfight were Zero, by betraying Cesar he makes himself a target in future rounds, less people trust him, and he gets a significant amount of animosity from a player
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Yeah,I'm convinced that people's role pms are lying right now.*sigh*

Then I guess I will vote Lucky's proposal

Since there's a bomber so Zero can't scape yet I guess that is the only option that moves the game without making a stupid mistake...
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Boooooooooo

Who would care right now if I just killed myself? Is that breaking MAMA?
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Lucky sighed with relief

Well that's that settled then...I'm glad you ain't as bloodthirsty as this fool. Was worried we'd need to do something more drastic.

Well it's plain that no one can trust anyone at this point. The rules state that no matter what I search the item is made known to everyone. I can't do anything secret again. The rules are the same for Giggles now so more transparency is better for everyone.

Also GM...does the fact that people have openly stated they tried to kill others have any impact on their ability to kill said people in future?
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The rules don't say that so I'm assuming no

And I don't blame you, Cesar. You were the tie-breaker and I know it can be difficult to make a literal game-changing decision
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The rules are based on the assumption that "That person is so suspicious! They tried to kill someone! Better keep an eye on them..."

I think you blew your chance when you confessed to the attempt.
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The rules don't explicitly say that, though. They explicitly say you have to do it actually. Adding your rule right now would be making up things as they go along, which is unfair
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The rules don't explicitly say that, though. They explicitly say you have to do it actually. Adding your rule right now would be making up things as they go along, which is unfair


We'll see what the GM says...I think you've played with this game too close to the line.

Trying to "waste" kills to take advantage of the "one kill a day rule"

Using the "Who is online" Meta to work things to your advantage.

The rules don't explicitly say that...but it is a confirmed attempt at a murder that went public. It's not my place to rule though.
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We'll see what the GM says...I think you've played with this game too close to the line.

Trying to "waste" kills to take advantage of the "one kill a day rule"

The rules don't explicitly say that...but it is a confirmed attempt at a murder that went public. It's not my place to rule though.

I don't see a problem with trying to waste the kill. It would've ended up being a detriment to the people who wanted to waste it anyway because they lose stealth. That was a result of me misreading the rules anyway

It's not a confirmed attempt, either. Like Slezak said, "you can't prove you tried to kill me!"

Doesn't matter anyway. The rules say you have to kill someone or be caught trying to push someone through after you and your accomplice betray each other
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JesusMonroe wrote:
Boooooooooo

Who would care right now if I just killed myself? Is that breaking MAMA?


If you wanted to do that, you could just claim a role that you're not allowed to. Plus, that would let us see exactly how people die. I threw cold through a door, buuuuuut I never actually saw his body. Hey, maybe we should open door 4 and take a peak.
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But you see, it was never confirmed that Lucky and Giggles made the kill. Thus, even though they publicly confessed, the rules state that they are not marked.

You only get marked if you attempt to make a kill and both betray.

SUCK ON THAT, RULE-STRETCHERS.
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Slezak wrote:
But you see, it was never confirmed that Lucky and Giggles made the kill. Thus, even though they publicly confessed, the rules state that they are not marked.

You only get marked if you attempt to make a kill and both betray.

SUCK ON THAT, RULE-STRETCHERS.


Sn-snap....

It does only say if you both betray each other on the kill....
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Please understand that I am overall unhappy that someone had to be killed.

It's just the dopamine release of realizing something and then bringing it forth.

Sorry if it seemed like I was gloating about two killers not being marked.
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I'm not actually gonna kill myself btw

I know people don't want my proposal, but can we propose something else other than Lucky's? Me and Slezak can stay behind for example
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What does my proposal matter in difference?

It gets people through the doors.
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Cause I'm going to betray Nanjo if he's not going to vote
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JesusMonroe wrote:
Boooooooooo

Who would care right now if I just killed myself? Is that breaking MAMA?

Yup

Though if you want to quit there's not much I can do about it

Pierre wrote:
Also GM...does the fact that people have openly stated they tried to kill others have any impact on their ability to kill said people in future?

Nope

Slezak wrote:
But you see, it was never confirmed that Lucky and Giggles made the kill. Thus, even though they publicly confessed, the rules state that they are not marked.

You only get marked if you attempt to make a kill and both betray.

SUCK ON THAT, RULE-STRETCHERS.

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Eh everyone is gonna betray. It doesn't matter.
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Nah, I'm not gonna quit. It was a jest
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Well, I'd be lying if I said I didn't think about it for a second

Giggles, everyone will betray but Nanjo won't have a chance to if we leave him behind
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Lucky smiled grimly. Things were starting to get back on track. It had been a hectic day, and the AB game ahead certainly spelled disaster but he was satisfied. Zero was dead, there was still a bomb to defuse. There might be imminent murders in the days to come but well...that'd be the hand that fate dealt him if it came to that.

(This system is totally broke fluffwise BTW XD)

Well then, that's enough excitement for me today I think. I'll dread the next door section but I played all my hand as well as I could.

Lucky's expression softened slightly as he looked upon Nanjo with regret.

I know some of you had absolute faith in Cold, the same way I had absolute faith in his guilt. If you want to believe Zero is still out there that's your choice. I can only work with the hand I get dealt.

He gave Neptune a curious look.
Why would you betray Nanjo though Neptune? Vengeance? If you were willing to kill with him then I figure you would trust him enough to not screw him over when he can't vote.
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It's not about trusting Doctor. It's about getting as many points as fast as he can, since he believes that you'll leave right away. At least, I think so. Don't let me put words in your mouth.
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So does anybody believe Pierre when he says he thinks Cold was Zero?
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Trace, don't search a location behind Door 4. I don't trust that you won't tell Lucky the bomb code

I'd say the same thing to Giggles but it seems unavoidable since we might miss it otherwise
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Trace folded his arms and tapped his foot as Neptune told him not to search anything.

Wow, Neptune, I admire your desire to lead us around like puppets. Why don't you tell us all how to vote in the AB game and then who is allowed to escape through the exit door? I'm sure everyone would love that. So yes, I'll be glad to follow every word you say after you explicitly made an attempt on my life even though you were fed false or uncertain information.

How about "No." Stick to your own door and let me stick to mine, okay? Try again at the next set of doors when you'll have an opportunity to cast me through the maw of a numbered door with no remorse once again.
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Image Nn, so many words...

Lucky Proposal passes, give me a minute to go find out what that was again...




Trace, Cesar, and Jumpfight enter Door 4. It's a chromed kitchen complete with a walk-in refrigerator, industrial-sized griddle, and large worktable for preparing food.

Neptune, Lucky, and Giggles find a master bedroom behind Door 8. There's a princess-style bed on one wall, a vanity on the opposite one, and a walk-in closet, all colored in delicate pinks and pastels.


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Search the fridge.

Maybe I can lock myself in and freeze to death like Neptune wants so badly.
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Search princess-style bed

Pierre, you said you wouldn't search anything. Holy fucking shit
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Show me where he said that in this thread. That's the only provable information we have.
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lol great fucking job, cesar

They probably know where the items are and now they're just gonna win the game

Congrats, everyone. The most obvious Zero team in the world won. You can't make this up

I'll search the worktable but I don't really care at this point

Sorry if I sound like I'm in a bad mood. I'm not personally mad at anyone or anything. I just think it's hilarious
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Hell I'll willingly give up my rights to items if you get off this hell-bent path.
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