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Author:  ButzPuff [ Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:23 am ]
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OMG! That's Super Cute, Yuu-Chan! Franziska

Author:  Mondo [ Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:30 am ]
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It's a trap is all I have to say.

Author:  Yuu-chan [ Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:43 am ]
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Image

MORE CUTENESS.Adrian

Author:  Liquidzilla [ Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:38 pm ]
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<3 Thats soooo cute ^_^

Author:  Aki [ Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:53 pm ]
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Chibi! :D I love the colouring, it's awesome!

Author:  Andy Waltfeld [ Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:22 pm ]
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I'd say "MOAR FRISKIAN PLZ," but I'm already watching you. Hobohodo

Author:  Liquidzilla [ Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:01 am ]
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I may steal this picture >.> That okay?

Author:  CantFaketheFunk [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:27 am ]
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Hm. I have ideas for three more Friska/Adrian fics to come. Two of them focus on their relationship, one of them just takes place in the FtF-verse so they're a couple, but that's not the point of the relationship.

I should get around to writing them at some point.

Author:  CantFaketheFunk [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:37 am ]
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Also, bask in the Friskian love here. <3 them.

Author:  Silvy [ Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:48 pm ]
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Unf. Friskian. <3 Godot It's weird, they seem to go together so well, and if you haven't played the second game, it's seems like a totally random pairing.

Author:  Chinese Infantry [ Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:54 am ]
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Well of course it would seem random. That's the primary time the two interact, even if it is mostly behind the scene.

On the other hand, I ain't complaining...

Author:  Magmar's Fury [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:05 am ]
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Adrian and Fran really do make a great couple, provided that Ms. von Karma drops the 'whip people when I'm angry' attitude (can't see how that'd help a healthy relationship).

I've read everyone's insights on Adrian being a lesbian from the start... do you think having a masculine name helps, or is that just something they needed for JFA? Eh?

Author:  'Ivan [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:10 am ]
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It doesn't so much have to do with her name as it does with
Spoiler: GS2-4
her attachment to Celeste Impax.


EDIT: Ehh... ... the "Funk the Funk" universe? Detective Gumshoe

Author:  CantFaketheFunk [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:10 am ]
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Well, you sorta needed it for that one bit in 2-4. >.>

But honestly, I know way more girls named Adrian than I do guys, so it never really clicked with me. I just think she makes a good lesbian. *cough*

Also~ female gnomes are cute. I want one.

Author:  Magmar's Fury [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:24 am ]
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CantFaketheFunk wrote:
Well, you sorta needed it for that one bit in 2-4. >.>

But honestly, I know way more girls named Adrian than I do guys, so it never really clicked with me. I just think she makes a good lesbian. *cough*

Also~ female gnomes are cute. I want one.


Ummm... hehe... this might be fitting, but I RP a female gnome on WoW (hence my avatar), and she's a lesbian.

Who doesn't want a lil' gnome girl? Larry

***

On topic, the Friskian couple has something that I noticed, pointed out in CantFaketheFunk's fanfic (it is your's right?), Follow the Fool? From first view, Adrian has the problems deep down inside, but looking harder, one would realize that Fran has problems too, ones she has a harder time admitting too. It'd be a great way for them to endure, because they have each other to confide in and lean against.

Author:  CantFaketheFunk [ Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:29 am ]
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Magmar's Fury wrote:
CantFaketheFunk wrote:
Well, you sorta needed it for that one bit in 2-4. >.>

But honestly, I know way more girls named Adrian than I do guys, so it never really clicked with me. I just think she makes a good lesbian. *cough*

Also~ female gnomes are cute. I want one.


Ummm... hehe... this might be fitting, but I RP a female gnome on WoW (hence my avatar), and she's a lesbian.

Who doesn't want a lil' gnome girl? Larry

***

On topic, the Friskian couple has something that I noticed, pointed out in CantFaketheFunk's fanfic (it is your's right?), Follow the Fool? From first view, Adrian has the problems deep down inside, but looking harder, one would realize that Fran has problems too, ones she has a harder time admitting too. It'd be a great way for them to endure, because they have each other to confide in and lean against.



What server? I had some friends on Maelstrom (US) for a bit. My main was on Skullcrusher then transfered to Mug'Thol, I'm a Troll Mage (even if I've not played in, uh, four months while in China). The Mage They Call Jayne(z), at your service.

And yes, it's mine. :) Glad you like it. And yes, that's another thing I do like about that pairing, that a lot of its support stems from their weaknesses instead of their strengths.

Author:  Magmar's Fury [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:39 am ]
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CantFaketheFunk wrote:
What server? I had some friends on Maelstrom (US) for a bit. My main was on Skullcrusher then transfered to Mug'Thol, I'm a Troll Mage (even if I've not played in, uh, four months while in China). The Mage They Call Jayne(z), at your service.

And yes, it's mine. :) Glad you like it. And yes, that's another thing I do like about that pairing, that a lot of its support stems from their weaknesses instead of their strengths.


Silver Hand (US). My mains are all there (Mandy, gnome warlock; Silvergem, dwarf paladin; and Pandascar; gnome rogue). Though polluted with people who think RPers on the RP server are losers ( Head Bang ), it is home.

Yesh, I did very much enjoy your fanfics. Edgy

You know... I was gonna post this great Friskian pic... but someone got to it before me. Sadshoe

Author:  CantFaketheFunk [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:59 am ]
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I think I had a Horde character on Silver Hand that I got up to like 15 or so >.>

Dorf Pallies are great. I am of the opinion that when drawn properly, female Dwarves can be smexy.

Freakin' Warlocks. As a Mage I am biased, but NERF. NEEEEERF.

Author:  Liquidzilla [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:35 am ]
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Quote:
As a Mage I am biased

Are you still talking about WoW? I've never played that game before, but on Guildwars I'm a female ranger! Are we going a little off topic? XD

Author:  CantFaketheFunk [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:14 am ]
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A -bit- off topic, yes.

My friend plays GW and loves it. He's got a monk, I think. He's always posting new concept classes on GW Guru, and some of them are pretty cool.

I wanted to be an elementalist. I dig the mage type classes.

Author:  Aki [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:51 am ]
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Go Mages!
And once again the age-old (betweeen LZ and me) debate appears: Who's better, mage or samurai?

(XD I've made this known on about 3 other forums!)

Author:  CantFaketheFunk [ Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:55 am ]
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Do Samurai have any ranged options?

If no, WoW mages. Frost Nova > Blink > Slow > Freezy ice death.

Author:  CantFaketheFunk [ Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:34 pm ]
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This thread needs more posts.

Author:  Think0028 [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:44 am ]
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About Adrian being masculine: It didn't occur to me at first precisely because I know both guy and girl Adrians. 1 guy, 1 girl.

Author:  Dannichu [ Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:27 pm ]
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If I may...
I figured Adrian was gay pretty early on. I read into subtext way too much a lot of the time, but for her I thought it was pretty obvious. There are probably some horrible mis-quotes here, but:

  • "Matt could make any woman fall for him.. except her." (Will, about Adrian)
  • "You stupid males and your stupid pride" (Adrian)
  • "Celeste was such an important part in her life... her tower of strength" (Edgey, about Adrian)
  • "Franziska left me her telephone number and told me to call if there was any trouble at all..." (Adrian)
  • "There was only one event that could possibly cause such an emotional reaction within Ms. Andrews; Ms. Impax's suicide." (Phoenix, about Adrian)

There were a load more subtle ones, too. There're the ones I remember the best. Larry

She very clearly shows no romantic interaction towards any of the many male characters she comes into contact with; not only does she quite clearly hate Matt and Juan, but she had plenty of time after the trial to say something other than "thank you" to Nick or Edgey if she wanted to, but the only person she talks about is Fran and how she wants to continue contact with her. This, coming from the girl who finds it "difficult to be intimate with another person".

...I don't think the ambiguous name has anything to do with it at all... a lesbian is a woman who falls in love with women, not a man.

Author:  ImAFoolishFool [ Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:30 am ]
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All of you are such good artists, I'm so incredibly jealous!!

I would post a (most probably poopy) pic if I had the technology to do so Sadshoe

Author:  Dannichu [ Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:39 pm ]
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My God... thanks to you guys, instead of spending the weekend finishing coursework, doing homework and revising for imminent exams, I spend my time drawing lesbians.

Isn't that just great?

You know the official art chibis of Maya and Nick on thier DSs? Well, this kinda came from there. Don't ask what's up with Fran's face because I honestly don't know.

If I had to blame someone for this one, it'd be CFTF. Fran and Adrian's domestic relationship in One of These Things Does Not Belong was one of the cutest things I've ever read, and I just imagined Adrian sneaking up on Fran in her study...

Um. I'm not sure what my opinion on this one is.

Dangerous wrote:
I had the strangest thought. If Fanziska had a baby, that would change her completely. Adopted of course ;) Adrian.

This was the inspiration for it. I do like how it came out (I might colour it if I have the time), though the concept disturbs me a little. A maternal Franziska would be even scarier than the whip-wielding one. Lana

Author:  CantFaketheFunk [ Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:12 am ]
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Dannichu, I think I love you.

(And yes, the domestic relationship with Addy and Friska is ADORABLE. It cutes on me :P)

Author:  Magmar's Fury [ Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:06 am ]
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I recently replayed JFA. I noticed a few things that I'm sure weren't intentional... but we can demand see them as cannon.

• When Adrian gets nervous or scared, she hugs herself by grabbing her arms; when Fransizka is startled, she hugs herself by grabbing her arms. Also, both of them grind their teeth and sweat when they start to get cornered.

• Adrian is usually carrying something in her hand, like a book or card. Fransizka... well, you know she always carries a certain something.

• Both of them took extreme measures (illegal to boot) to have revenge upon the men they hated.

***

On a side note, the trial did show a sense of urgency on Fransizka's part. Why would she help Phoenix and Edgeworth? Could it be that Edgeworth told her that if she didn't help, Adrian would be sent to jail for the murder of Corrida? I know Franny is no good at showing or precieving emotions, but she still has them; Adrian is a bit more in-tune, she saw how distraught Phoenix was ("Are you ill, Mr. Wright? You're very pale.") and was concerned, even though she certainly didn't care for him at that point in time.

Author:  Calamity [ Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:44 pm ]
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Not that it should be surprising but I'm a huge Friskian shipper, being gay and adoring Franny way too much. >_> FtF made me squee way too much simply because of how fantastic it all was (OH THE CUTENESS).

I'm Calammy and I endorse this thread. Whip

(Did I mention that this picture is far too wonderful? ;D)

Author:  Dannichu [ Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:29 pm ]
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Magmar's Fury wrote:
I recently replayed JFA. I noticed a few things that I'm sure weren't intentional... but we can demand see them as cannon.

• When Adrian gets nervous or scared, she hugs herself by grabbing her arms; when Fransizka is startled, she hugs herself by grabbing her arms. Also, both of them grind their teeth and sweat when they start to get cornered.

• Adrian is usually carrying something in her hand, like a book or card. Fransizka... well, you know she always carries a certain something.

• Both of them took extreme measures (illegal to boot) to have revenge upon the men they hated.

***

On a side note, the trial did show a sense of urgency on Fransizka's part. Why would she help Phoenix and Edgeworth? Could it be that Edgeworth told her that if she didn't help, Adrian would be sent to jail for the murder of Corrida? I know Franny is no good at showing or precieving emotions, but she still has them; Adrian is a bit more in-tune, she saw how distraught Phoenix was ("Are you ill, Mr. Wright? You're very pale.") and was concerned, even though she certainly didn't care for him at that point in time.


I agree with everything here. And everything Calamity said, too (awesome picture. Seen it before, but still awesome). I noticed the grabbing-arms-when-scared-thing, too. Not much to base a relationship on, but still cute. :D

Author:  ImAFoolishFool [ Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:45 pm ]
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Ok, ignore my last post :P, and take a look at the crappiness I have produced on Paint....

Image

I know it's bad!! XD But I like it.

Author:  Calamity [ Tue May 01, 2007 2:55 am ]
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Adrian's grin is wonderful! XD You might think it's crap but I think I'd only be capable of producing a blonde blob and a blue blob and try to convince you that it was Franny and Adrian (namely because I lack a tablet and mouse drawing is so hard :P), so it's a hell of a lot better than what I can do!

Author:  ImAFoolishFool [ Tue May 01, 2007 11:23 am ]
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Aw, thanks! That grin I got first go, practically the ONLY thing I got first go XD
I've thought about getting a proper drawing thingy, then hopefully my wrist wouldn't hurt like it did after I finished this!
I did do shadows on their skin, but it doesn't show up very well, but meh whatever!

Although Franziska should be looking at me like that... ;d Be gay with me, not her!!!! lol

I bet you are good at Paint :) You can't be that bad!

Author:  Magmar's Fury [ Wed May 02, 2007 7:01 am ]
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Flowery wrote:
Not to point fingers so much, but I really don't understand this. It's a common female trait to be 'clingy', and those who are like this almost always need someone they can cling on to at all times. Usually someone who will listen to/support them, not that they're interested in them romantically or anything like that. That's all I really saw out of Adrian, honestly... just a clingy girl to the extreme, to be a bit more realistic. Besides, if we were looking into subtext like this so definitely, what would that be saying about Phoenix and Edgeworth? x_x By these standards, you'd pretty much have to call that canon in a blink or something.

Sure she complained about guys in general, but that doesn't mean anything. Girls are known to gripe about the qualities of men as it is, nothing to it. XP Not to mention that there are plenty of characters that don't show any romantic interests, so her not being interested in any of the guys in the cast doesn't say anything in particular at all.

Anyways, again, not to point fingers at anyone. I just think that if you consider the nature of a girl, nothing like this is suggested.


That's why it's called shipping, bambino. Marshall

We do it because it's fun, not because we can Present Evidence to support our claim. Edgy

Author:  Dannichu [ Wed May 02, 2007 4:06 pm ]
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Adrian's not just clingy - she's co-dependant.

Nobody's saying it is canon (except probably CFTF, but you don't want to be arguing this with him), but the subtext is undeniably there, so there's absolutely nothing in-game to say it's not a possibility.

I'm pretty sure that it's one of those pairings that would have a massive fanbase if one of them was male; if Adrian had been a guy, most people would interpret her (his?) total devotion and adoration of Celeste as love, and then again when she (he?) clings desperately to every word of Franziska's in court... not to mention the phone number thing in the epilogue.

They might not say explicitly "Adrian likes girls!" but they certianly come as close to it as any game I've ever played.
But, as usual, everyone is straight until proven without doubt that they are gay, it seems.
There is a LOT more in-game evidence to indicate that Adrian is a lesbian than if she's straight. In fact, the ONLY thing that the "Adrian is striaght" argument has going for it is that statistically, people tend to be hetero.

Author:  CantFaketheFunk [ Wed May 02, 2007 4:25 pm ]
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Dannichu wrote:
Nobody's saying it is canon (except probably CFTF, but you don't want to be arguing this with him),


I'm not THAT scary/bad of a raging fanboy.... Am I? Sadshoe

Author:  SilverZephyr [ Thu May 03, 2007 12:52 am ]
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Flowery wrote:
Not to point fingers so much, but I really don't understand this. It's a common female trait to be 'clingy', and those who are like this almost always need someone they can cling on to at all times. Usually someone who will listen to/support them, not that they're interested in them romantically or anything like that. That's all I really saw out of Adrian, honestly... just a clingy girl to the extreme, to be a bit more realistic. Besides, if we were looking into subtext like this so definitely, what would that be saying about Phoenix and Edgeworth? x_x By these standards, you'd pretty much have to call that canon in a blink or something.

Sure she complained about guys in general, but that doesn't mean anything. Girls are known to gripe about the qualities of men as it is, nothing to it. XP Not to mention that there are plenty of characters that don't show any romantic interests, so her not being interested in any of the guys in the cast doesn't say anything in particular at all.

Anyways, again, not to point fingers at anyone. I just think that if you consider the nature of a girl, nothing like this is suggested.


Personally, the reason I like the Friskian pairing has nothing to do with their clinginess or even their interactions. I just think their personalities, weaknesses, and strengths complement each other perfectly (as CFTF described perfectly in an AWESOME rant that I CAN'T FIND ANYMORE because that thread like disappeared D=).

Also, Adrian's clinging doesn't have to do with being a girl like you said, it has to do with her disorder.
Which, you know, still has nothing to do with her sexuality, I just felt the need to point that out >>;

Author:  musouka [ Thu May 03, 2007 12:55 am ]
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Flowery wrote:
It's a common female trait to be 'clingy'


Um. Wow.

Author:  Croik [ Thu May 03, 2007 3:08 am ]
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musouka wrote:
Flowery wrote:
It's a common female trait to be 'clingy'


Um. Wow.


Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Nick

And I hate to point it out again, but there is no sexual innuendo in the game stronger than "FRANZISKA CAME OVER AND SHOWED ME HOW TO USE THE WHIP :D"

Just Saying~

Unless you count Hotti, I guess. Dr? Hotti

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