They're not saying only black lives matter, they're saying black lives matter too since some people doesn't seem to think they do. Saying "All lives matter" is watering it out; that all lives matter is a given, but "all lives" include "black lives", and since the issue concerns black people it is concentrated on them.

I see okay thanks I didn't really get it before but know I do. I sucks how there is still Racism in America. Not sure about sexism but I think they're still is a bit of it. Why can't we all just get along? Why do people have to comment on what someone looks like?

I see okay thanks I didn't really get it before but know I do. I sucks how there is still Racism in America. Not sure about sexism but I think they're still is a bit of it. Why can't we all just get along? Why do people have to comment on what someone looks like?

:) Yeah, definitely. And that's a good question, for sure.

Not likely, but it does seem like Capcom JP has been taking more progressive views with how they depict their characters regarding social justice. Just take Nahyuta...

Yep, but his comments about being a feminist to argue with Apollo in case 2 can be taken a few ways. Subtle but present signs.

Speaking of which, this discussion of race is one subject I'd like to see more prevalent in DGS, given the culture gap and all.

Yep, but his comments about being a feminist to argue with Apollo in case 2 can be taken a few ways.

I'd rather they keep Social Justice out of Ace Attorney, I've never had a problem with their stereotypes, and I'll probably continue to not give a damn, I really don't think Ace Attorney needs to change when it comes to this specific subject matter.

To me, the games don't come off as being progressive for the sake of it. I think gender makes for a better discussion than race considering that Japan is less diverse racially than American and European nations. There are characters like Mia, where her design shows off her breasts, but she's much more than that, as a character. Even a character like April, who seems one-note at first, has a moment where she shows a different side and you can sympathize with her (the detention center scene, in which she is afraid of disobeying White).

So I'm not worried that a character from a minority race will be included for the sake of social justice.

Precisely.
Both men and women get to be characters with more than one dimension (well... some characters are one-dimensional, but that's besides the point), but this is done in a very casual way. Same goes, I think, with Marlon Rimes, in terms of ethnicity.

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I'm pretty glad everyone here is taking this issue with respect and maturity.
Now, I just wish to say one more thing bothering me.
Why are mibority's...called "minorites" it's like a treatment of second class citizens all over again.

I've always wondered why their called minorities too. Can someone explain why other races are called minorities?

I have always wondered why myself.
That's what I was wondering.
Calling races minorities, is like some sort of hypocrite thing, a step back in human evoulution, it defeats the purpose of other races having equal rights.
You know what? I'm gonna state my race right now.
No doors closed.
I'm a Muslim.
You can kill me all you want, but it's not gonna hurt one bit.

So...does that mean I'm a minority?

In the context of western culture it probably means you are in a minority. Minority in my eyes as a word doesn't equate to inferiority (except in numbers).

If the discussion were going on in a different part of the world then Caucasians would be a minority. I think Minority just means a smaller group, and then when we apply this term to people and culture. Nothing inferior or insulting about it I think but you seem to think it carries negative connotations.

I could spill a bag of smarties and have 25 blue ones and 20 red ones. I would have a majority of blue smarties and a minority of red. They'd both be the same sugar-coated chocolates with basically an identical taste. The only place majority really has connotations of worth I think is when it represents an opinion and even then the term "Majority rules" is a logical fallacy, just because one idea is commonly thought doesn't mean it's the right idea.

I, on the other hand, feel that AA is fairly free from stereotypes in most cases... compared to many other games and media, at least. Which I wouldn't really call "social justice" but rather good character-building (and a bit of common sense).

Uhhh.....okay?

I feel like many secondary characters are rather stereotyped. April May and Jean Armstrong are almost offensive to me as stereotypes of "sugar-daddy lover" and "french gay guy" respectively. Some secondary characters are so stereotyped that you can't even take them seriously, like Furio Tigre.

I would agree that stereotyping is not a issue among most of the major characters, though.

Why do I get the impression that you say that like everything I said was irrelevant.

1) I am dumb
2) I am what is known as...an asshole.

I feel like many secondary characters are rather stereotyped. April May and Jean Armstrong are almost offensive to me as stereotypes of "sugar-daddy lover" and "french gay guy" respectively. Some secondary characters are so stereotyped that you can't even take them seriously, like Furio Tigre.

I would agree that stereotyping is not a issue among most of the major characters, though.

Acknowledgement of ignorance doesn't really excuse it.

Like I was saying, I don't think there's anything wrong with the word "minority" but if you want to drop the subject that's fine.

Hm, I never saw April as a sugar-daddy-lover. Jean, on the other hand... yes, I think how he was portrayed was off. He's from what I recall the only guy to all but state he's attracted to guys (he at least seemed very happy talking about how Xin Eohp had flirted with him), and he's portrayed as a bit of a creep (although I kinda liked him) and very effeminate and... over the top. If his character is a stereotype, however, it's a stereotype I haven't seen. Something off, yes, but it never crossed my mind that it'd be stereotypical.

I just think, that the word "minority" is stupid, considering that the race wars are over.
No need.

The reason for it's usage is annoying.
"Minoritie" the word, is like a support to racism.
That is all for my nitpicking.


For now.

The word is just used to refer to quantities. There's nothing inferior about being a minority and it's not about racism.

You can have a minority of houses sold, skittles, almost anything. It just means less than half.

I think I understand now, still bugs me though.