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Pearl. Sorry, but sweet and innocent pearl may turn into a horrible and mean Dahlia-type person! I can imagine that. :pearl: :chinami:
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Pearl. Sorry, but sweet and innocent pearl may turn into a horrible and mean Dahlia-type person! I can imagine that. :pearl: :chinami:

Maybe, if Dahlia can be trusted as to why she became evil, then the stage is set for Pearly, too. :beef:

Although, Dollie didn't have Maya and Nick as positive influences growing up. :grey think:
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Wow I can never picture pearls as a criminal. She's just too darn cute :pearl:
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Wow I can never picture pearls as a criminal. She's just too darn cute :pearl:

Ok, but what about :knock-knock: or :that-b-word: or :mina: ?
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Frankly we don't have any "professional" and "official" proof that the game exists


We know 100% that it's going to exist. The proof is that Capcom's said "hey, we're making one", which is pretty solid proof.

What we don't know is when it will, or anything else about the game for that matter.

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Spoiler: This is guaranteed to make :odoroki: fans cry.
Apollo HIMSELF is murdered, the case is taken by Wright. And... SHOK HORRA, the murderer is VALANT, who doesn't think Apollo was worthy of the Gramarye name, and so succumbed to his inner demon and MURDERED HIM!!!!!


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Idea of Apollo as a victim is good [Someone we wouldn't expect], concept of this plot is rather flimsy tbh. Apollo isn't inheriting the Gramarye name even if for some bizzare reason ApolloxTrucy is canon [Trucy would get Apollo's name] and even if he did Apollo expresses little to no interest in magic throughout the game, so I don't know why the hell Valant would care that his niece married a non-Magician. Third and most obviously, Valant isn't that much of a von Karma, and besides, he's haunted enough over what he did seven years ago. There's no way he'd do it again.


So yeah, not to be rude...but work on that one.[/quote]

Fair enough. It was nothing next to my previous theories. But just so you know...
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I wasn't indicting that ApolloxTrucy is canon, I'm just talking about how since Apollo doesn't show any interest in magic, Valant would see him as a waste, seeing as Thalasa was his mother. And for your personal information, I would never speculate about an Apollo pairing. There's hardly any girls his age which he knows well enough to love... but that's a bit off topic.

You weren't being rude, it's true. Bad theory... :maggy:

But what if the first bit turns out true?
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Apollo dies somehow, the defendant could either be guilty or innocent. If guilty, you have to prove him guilty somehow in a 2-4 similar case. Otherwise, find the real killer. That's possible. Oh, and :hobohodo: can be the attorney. :gant-clap2:

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Pearl. Sorry, but sweet and innocent pearl may turn into a horrible and mean Dahlia-type person! I can imagine that. :pearl: :chinami:

Spoiler: Lol.
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thorn96 wrote:
Spoiler: Lol.
:pealshock:: Mr Nick! You never *bleeped* with Mystic Maya in your whole 10 years of knowing her! *slap*

And that is the main reason Nick fails. I would've tapped that after the first, maybe 2nd time she owed her life to me.

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I wasn't indicting that ApolloxTrucy is canon, I'm just talking about how since Apollo doesn't show any interest in magic, Valant would see him as a waste, seeing as Thalasa was his mother. And for your personal information, I would never speculate about an Apollo pairing. There's hardly any girls his age which he knows well enough to love... but that's a bit off topic.

The Valant thing is interesting.
Spoiler: BUT!
I don't see him as a killer. A real killer.

Spoiler: AND...
Vera. That's my main choice. She had no one left after 4-4. I bet Phoenix would bring her in to work for the WAA as an artist. That gives Polly and Vera a chance to get to know each other. And all that is disregarding the fact that Apollo saved her life and caught her father's killer.

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Hmm, maybe Morgan Fey? She's still probably kicking around out there.
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Hmm, maybe Morgan Fey? She's still probably kicking around out there.

That's a seriously long-term plan. (then again so was the one in
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3-5
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And a bit of a stretch. :nick:
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Maybe Nick just wasn't interested in her sexually, IMO Nick/Maya love each other "platonically" at least in a very sweet way.
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Maybe Nick just wasn't interested in her sexually, IMO Nick/Maya love each other "platonically" at least in a very sweet way.

I'm not sure why you brought that up. Not to mention that it almost contradicts your avvy/sig. :nick:
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I guess it does. Doh!
I was responding to your post that "Nick would have tapped Maya after she'd been kidnapped" or something but you're right, it does contradiction my sig... hmmm.
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I guess it does. Doh!
I was responding to your post that "Nick would have tapped Maya after she'd been kidnapped" or something but you're right, it does contradiction my sig... hmmm.

Oh. Well, quote me next time so we get the context. :grey:
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Wow I can never picture pearls as a criminal. She's just too darn cute :pearl:

Ok, but what about :knock-knock: or :that-b-word: or :mina: ?

Yea they arent cute lol. Pearl is too innocent.

And
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as far as the theory about apollo getting murdered..idk if i like that or not. I really don't think I do because he is such a good character. But I guess it could make a good storyline if written correctly.

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BlackJack wrote:
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Kristoph Damon von Engarde-Hawthorne. The most evil serial killer/mastermind on the planet.
Fix'd.

He kills them by hitting them over the head with his massive nametag! :beef:

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I think it'll be Iris. She may have inherited her sister's gift of acting...

If so, she not only inherited the acting skills. She far surpassed her. :that-b-word: :ayame:

Yes, definitely. I can't stand Iris's sweetness when compared to Dahlia's 'sweetie-pie' side. It just seems wrong, very wrong.
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Dunno, what if the "devil" is Dahlia? Lol, crazy I know.

Well, maybe she's Lilith!

Like on NGE? :yuusaku:

No, not on NGE, although the name of that being confuses me, to be honest.
I was thinking of the Christian/Jewish demon, the "screech-owl".

Isaiah 34:14
Wildcats and hyenas will hunt together,
demons and devils dance through the night.
The night-demon Lilith, evil and rapacious,
will establish permanent quarters.
Scavenging carrion birds will breed and brood,
infestations of ominous evil.


In fact, she's the only demon other than Satan to be mentioned in the Bible, apart from Belial & Azazel, who was merely used as another name for Satan.
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I'm glad you like my jokes. :edgy:

And I think Iris was supposed to be vomit-inducingly sweet so as to make you suspicious. You've already handled Dahlia and this act twice at that point. Then a girl that looks just like Dahlia does the same thing. Then you start to suspect that maybe she did do it. This is futher hit home if you beat JFA.
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I'm referring to 2-4 and Matt Engarde, obviously.


And quoting the Bible, huh?
I knew it was a biblical reference (like many things on NGE). It was (according to legend) the demon that had sex with Eve (or Adam, I don't remember which) and spawned the evil humans whose descendents God wiped out with the Great Deluge.
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BlackJack wrote:
I'm glad you like my jokes. :edgy:

And I think Iris was supposed to be vomit-inducingly sweet so as to make you suspicious. You've already handled Dahlia and this act twice at that point. Then a girl that looks just like Dahlia does the same thing. Then you start to suspect that maybe she did do it. This is futher hit home if you beat JFA.
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I'm referring to 2-4 and Matt Engarde, obviously.


And quoting the Bible, huh?
I knew it was a biblical reference (like many things on NGE). It was (according to legend) the demon that had sex with Eve (or Adam, I don't remember which) and spawned the evil humans whose descendents God wiped out with the Great Deluge.

Lol, not with Eve!
In Jewish mythology, Lilith was Adam's first wife, and her daughters, the Lilin, were dangerous succubi. I've heard it said somewhere that because Lilith betrayed God, he kills 100 of the Lilin every day.
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I agree with BlackJack - Iris was so sweet, I just couldn't see her as a murderer. But then, she looked like Dahlia and everything.... I thought she WAS Dahlia at first. Iris was a good person though.
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I don't really wanna see Dahlia or Iris....ew
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And quoting the Bible, huh?
I knew it was a biblical reference (like many things on NGE). It was (according to legend) the demon that had sex with Eve (or Adam, I don't remember which) and spawned the evil humans whose descendents God wiped out with the Great Deluge.

Lol, not with Eve!
In Jewish mythology, Lilith was Adam's first wife, and her daughters, the Lilin, were dangerous succubi. I've heard it said somewhere that because Lilith betrayed God, he kills 100 of the Lilin every day.

You're right. It was like, midnight when I wrote that. Waaaaay too late to be trying to dredge up ancient, obscure mythologies. :oops:
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i think someone kinda like.........edgeworth but more eviller ya know? :edgeworth:
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i think someone kinda like.........edgeworth but more eviller ya know? :edgeworth:


Evil Edgeworth! He's just like the original Edgeworth! Only...HE HAS A POINTY MOUSTACHE!
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yea kinda like that but a pair of glasses and ginger hair?
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yea kinda like that but a pair of glasses and ginger hair?


And he's British. And he wears a tie, so you know it's not the real Edgeworth. :gant:
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Evil Edgeworth! He's just like the original Edgeworth! Only...HE HAS A POINTY MOUSTACHE!

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Evil Edgeworth! He's just like the original Edgeworth! Only...HE HAS A POINTY MOUSTACHE!

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Evil Edgeworth! He's just like the original Edgeworth! Only...HE HAS A POINTY MOUSTACHE!

Spoiler: Hmmm....
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It better not be Kristoph, or I'm gonna boycott Capcom games. I assume the big bad villain will be a new face. Well, it better be. Or so help me god, Capcom...
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Each game has a new villian so I'm sure it will be.
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Spoiler:
i don't mind seeing valant.
apollo's dad pulls a shadi smith and meets up with thalassa.
valant recognizes who he is and pulls off an elaborate plan to kill him.
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I'd like to see Furio make an appearance in GS5.....


The final villian

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I for one would like to see an evil judge. Not Udgey of course, but a different one.
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I think it woud be........ :kyouya: Our good friend Klavier........
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I can kind of imagine that. Maybe he becomes disillusioned as his brother went down.
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Seriously, I sorta like the idea of Pearls being the villian....

But also they should try for something new....

Hrm.....maybe a child of a PW/AJ character?
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Hmmm.. sounds interesting.
But I just can't see Pearls as a real BADASS villain, she's just too cute and sweet. Maybe more disillusioned or someone like 2-4 Edgey (maybe she is upset because of what happened to Nick/Misty/Morgan?) but not an evil villain, IMO.
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I'd like see Kristoph make a return but not as the final villain. Second or third though with the death penalty being the consequence and Klavier refusing to prosecute.

As for Final villian? Ema *Awesome face*

Nah, though I like the idea of it being someone like Peal or from the past
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Someone new, even if they're referenced throughout the game. We hadn't heard of, say, Engarde or Dahlia or Kristoph until the actual game came out. Of course they'll be big and epic and hopefully someone from Apollo's past... *although that might be the possible third and final game, considering how the Phoenix Arc turned out* but we won't know until we get GS5, I reckon. :D
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the theory about Apollo's father beeing the final enemy of Apollos GS-Run seems a bit odd.
GS is not Star Wars or No more heroes. :will: Maybe he will appear, but just as a victim or as a sidecharacter.

I think that the final villian will not be a chara we know so far. Pearl beeing a prosecutor sounds maybe interesting in terms of plot-twists, but when we look at her character during Phönix' Arc, I don't think it would fit her character, even when she's grown up.
What I think would be interesting:
Maybe we could see a new Character during the events in Apollo Justice 2, who doesn't seem to play a big role in it's story, and then, later on in Apollo's final game (AJ 3) we get to know, that he is the new prosecutor of this game.
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I want the Cadaverinis to have the big role this time. I'd love to understand more about Viola's backstory and her family.
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I also want to know about what she did after Furio's arrest, because she didn't talk about it in the credits.


Also another thing that would spice up the story is someone very important dying. That would keep the story in your mind for a lot once finished.
Not Apollo though, that's going over the roof. Like maybe one of the defense aids.
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