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Sure there's likely stuff missing, but here's all that I've been unable to unearth with two years of history behind us.




May 27, 2007: Capcom President Greenlights Gyakuten Saiban 5 - The only 'official' word we ever get on GS5.

Feb 2, 2008: Siliconera Interview with Capcom's Product Marketing Manager: Colin Ferris - NDA prevents talking about GS5. But promises they’ve got some neat new ideas for it.

March 27, 2008: GS5 Pick Your Prosecutor Contest at CR - Sure it's not actually news, but I still think it's funny that this is the longest on going contest CR has ever had. 15 Months and no end in sight yet.

May 4, 2008: GS5 Production is paused - One year after being green lit, GS5 has stopped being produced due to internal shuffling. According to the source, GS4 was by far the best selling, best rated game in the series. However, the game was unpopular with old fans, so Capcom stopped GS5 to try and make sense of it.

June 30, 2008: Croik at Captivate08 - Without any GS news at the event, Croik has to drill it out of the employees. We learn GS5 was never canceled, was it even started?

June 28, 2009: Interview with 4gamer - Eshiro, the Gyakuten Kenji producer and Omnimusha 2 Director, offered Minae Matsukawa, the Gyakuten Saiban Producer, his help in GS5. Currently no context of when his help was offered.

June 21, 2010: Interview with videogamer.com - When asked about bringing Ace Attorney to the 3DS, Takumi only responded that they'd need to research what they can do with it, and if they can do something, they'll do it.

September 25, 2010: Level5 and Takumi? - Most dubious rumor to date. Jiro Ishii of Level 5 tweeted that he was working on 'Gyaktuen XX' with Takumi. The tweet was soon denied by Jiro Ishii, who claimed it was a mistake on his part. Leak or mix up? You decide. *

October 19th, 2010: Level-5 on Gyakuten Saiban 5 - In Level-5's Vision Event, I found this following tidbit: 'Hino: "I didn't think I'd be given the okay. I wonder if it's okay if he doesn't make Ace Attorney 5."' Don't read too deep into this one. He likely means because Takumi is working on Professor Layton vs Ace Attorney, he can't be concentrating on GS5.

September 7th, 2011: 2Chan rumor - The translation is open to interpretation, but it's currently suspected of indirectly saying that Eshiro is writing GS5 for the 3DS. This puts weight to the June 28, 2009 rumor.**

January 29th, 2012: At the series 10th Anniversary event we were finally shown off the logo. So yeah... 5 years after the original green light we FINALLY something substantial. Also, the Pick Your Prosecutor Contest is also just shy of being for years old. Croik still has those prizes...




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October 19th, 2010: The tweet was confirmed as true, Level-5 and Takumi are collaborating on a Gyakuten game. But had nothing to do with Gyakuten Saiban 5, but rather Professor Layton Vs Ace Attorney

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so, basically... all we know is that they're working on GS5, no release date or anything else.

still awesome of course.
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I'm 97.48% sure they have ideas but haven't started development yet.
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IMO they are working on GS5, or at least have some ideas.
It might be interesting if Eshiro helps with GS5 because Omnimusha is a very different sort of game to what GS is. Of course, it won't mean GS will change completely from what it is but we might see interesting stuff.
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Wow. Thanks for all the info. I only knew about the first and last one.
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TGS game show, and so far Capcom has revealed two games. Neither of them is GS5. Argh.

Although at least Ghost Trick is being developed by some AA team members.
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we still got a little spoiler....

onimusha director want to help into GS5 game?

if was right? the storyline will be different and the character appereance

just what i thought
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What does that mean? The storyline of every AA is always different (unless you mean the basic story of having to defend people accused of murder) will be different?
Where did you hear that? And why would Capcom change the forumula now?
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He's talking about the interview with Eshiro, who worked on GK, mentioning that he wants to/is working on GS5. Originally he worked on the Onimusha series, but he's been involved in Ace Attorney for a while now, so I don't think there's reason to assume he'll be changing any formula's anytime soon.
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Ah I see, thanks.
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Minor almost insignificant update with Takumi's 3Ds interview. Actually, there's nothing to be learned at all.
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So far, it all sounds very vague.
Somehow, I am pretty certain that they haven't started to work on the game yet.
And then, you know, if or when the game comes out, it still needs to be translated..
However, thanks for all the info! :edgy:
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So basically, we know practically nothing. :(
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Well, I'm already happy to know that there is the possibility of a GS5
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Updated topic with the Tweet rumor. Should I even have posted it in this topic? It's not explicitly about GS5, maybe?
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Just found this thread and am ultimately relieved.
A friend told me that GS5 was going to be the last in the Ace Attorney series. I died a little inside.

I don't mind waiting, really. I'm eternally waiting for good games (Half Life 2 Episode 3, Civilization 5, Deus Ex 3...)
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Darth GW7 wrote:
Just found this thread and am ultimately relieved.
A friend told me that GS5 was going to be the last in the Ace Attorney series. I died a little inside.



I can't help but shake the feeling that GS5 IS going to be the last in the core series. Yes. It's killing me too.
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Fi101 wrote:
Darth GW7 wrote:
Just found this thread and am ultimately relieved.
A friend told me that GS5 was going to be the last in the Ace Attorney series. I died a little inside.



I can't help but shake the feeling that GS5 IS going to be the last in the core series. Yes. It's killing me too.



I would be satisfied with that, as long as it

a) Ties up all lose ends

b) Gives us MEANINGFUL appearances by all the missing characters.

c) Is positively and without doubt, THE MOST EPIC THING SINCE EXORCISING DOLLIE! :fire:


That's when I'll be happy. :redd:
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Making GS5 the last one seems a little weird - making GS6 the last would be better.
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I agree; I think if Phoenix got three games, Apollo should get a full trilogy, too.


Of course, if GS5 goes back to starring Phoenix, that makes things more complicated...
In that case, maybe a wrap-up (and, as has been said, it'd better be a pretty amazingly epic wrap-up!! not that that'll probably be an issue; AA is always epic) would be best.


It is kind of sad to think that the imminent end of the main series seems so likely... but at least the reason for that is that they've got the wonderful GK series to work with now. :keiko:


It's incredible, looking at that timeline of rumors... I can't believe they've been stringing people along for years...
*just came pleasantly waltzing into the fandom a few months ago :hoboleft: *
I personally have no right to have anything but patience (which I do) -- but, for the sake of the fandom as a whole, I hope they make with some more straightforward updates soon!!
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I agree Apollo should get his own Trilogy if Phoenix did. But you're right, what about if GS5 stars Nick again, or Nick takes the bar exam again?
They could do that, so Nick could be Apollo's aide. I love Nick but want to know more about Apollo (there's an awful lot we don't know) so if GS5 "stars" Phoenix I think it isnt fair on Apollo.
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Minor update correcting the Tweet, and a little comment by Level-5 on GS5. Don't read to deeply into Level-5's comment.
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Thread updated, with not one, but two stories!

First, there's the current story about the 2Chan GS5 rumor. No surprise.

Then there's a story that I missed when I originally made the thread. Apparently just before Croik's trip to Captivate 08, GS5's internal development was paused. Reasons for the cease given were contradictory: best selling, best rated game, but unpopular with old fans. Someone doesn't have a spine in upper management? Or maybe Takumi wanted a best of both worlds product?

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I'm not sure if I should get excited or not.

A 3DS GS5 game would be awesome but they'll need to handle it tentatively either making Apollo the protagonist or doing something brand new, new defence attorney and all that jazz.

Though currently the rumours are still so vague I'm holding back my excitement.
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Pierre wrote:
I'm not sure if I should get excited or not.

A 3DS GS5 game would be awesome but they'll need to handle it tentatively either making Apollo the protagonist or doing something brand new, new defence attorney and all that jazz.

Though currently the rumours are still so vague I'm holding back my excitement.


I don't want Apollo to just disappear and act like he never even existed. That's BS IMO. He's an even more underrated character than Phoenix Wright and that's saying something.

I want this rumored new game to have Apollo Justice as the protagonist again.

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AAS4Life wrote:
Pierre wrote:
I'm not sure if I should get excited or not.

A 3DS GS5 game would be awesome but they'll need to handle it tentatively either making Apollo the protagonist or doing something brand new, new defence attorney and all that jazz.

Though currently the rumours are still so vague I'm holding back my excitement.


I don't want Apollo to just disappear and act like he never even existed. That's BS IMO. He's an even more underrated character than Phoenix Wright and that's saying something.

I want this rumored new game to have Apollo Justice as the protagonist again.

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I understand it'd be nice to see him again yeah.
Just saying it'll either be him or some completely new thing.
If they use Phoenix well....a lot of us will be upset...we'll probably still buy it but will mourn for poor Apollo
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Pierre wrote:
AAS4Life wrote:
Pierre wrote:
I'm not sure if I should get excited or not.

A 3DS GS5 game would be awesome but they'll need to handle it tentatively either making Apollo the protagonist or doing something brand new, new defence attorney and all that jazz.

Though currently the rumours are still so vague I'm holding back my excitement.


I don't want Apollo to just disappear and act like he never even existed. That's BS IMO. He's an even more underrated character than Phoenix Wright and that's saying something.

I want this rumored new game to have Apollo Justice as the protagonist again.

:odo-objection:



I understand it'd be nice to see him again yeah.
Just saying it'll either be him or some completely new thing.
If they use Phoenix well....a lot of us will be upset...we'll probably still buy it but will mourn for poor Apollo


Pretty much.

Don't take this the wrong way... I like Phoenix... it's just...

That would be a MAJOR disappointment to me. I'd still get it but...

That's be a MAJOR disappointment and I wouldn't be pleased in the slightest. In fact... I'd be quite...
angry...

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Making GS5 the last one seems a little weird - making GS6 the last would be better.


It seems a bit too much to cram all of PW and AJ's loose ends into one game and who knows, maybe they could decide to place some AAI elements in it as well :think-pw:
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Personally, I'd be fine if it was Phoenix Wright. I'm guessing the new game will be starring Phoenix, but that's just a guess.

But I do hope Apollo gets another game
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NECRROOOOOO

Though kinda justified seeing how rare and unexpected this was, sure is lively around here.
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Technically... I did update the thread before he replied... I just never bumped the thread myself.

Now I'm kinda curious if today was the last update I'll make to it. I mean, now we can use that official sticky no?
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Wooster wrote:
Technically... I did update the thread before he replied... I just never bumped the thread myself.

Now I'm kinda curious if today was the last update I'll make to it. I mean, now we can use that official sticky no?


Yeah we do need an official sticky for information now we've got something confirmed. Also need to get digging for information, though I have no idea how some of the folks around here find out their stuff...

Well not JapaneseGirl she has a convenient source which is awesome but yeah since it's still the first day we'll need a sticky topic to store all the juicy pre-release information we can scavenge.
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In terms of Ace Attorney Activity lately its been at its highest its ever been. First we get GK2, then the news and evidence of the AA movie then the announcement of the AA Vs Layton crossover, and finally the re-emergence of GS5 (possibly if localized AJ2 or maybe something completely different. we dont know yet).

So in terms of fandom we are buzzing with anticipation. But that all grinds to a halt when you take things into consideration. for example:
1- GK2 has had NO mention of a western localization despite the great praise and reception that GK1 received and the overall western success of the entire series .

2- The AA movie is no doubt gonna get seen by audiences across the globe thanks to the internet, but unless officially announced were only gonna get poorly translated subs of the movie, or poorly dubbed fan edits. (hoping that there is an official release, even if it is only subbed( even an official english dub would be awesome))

3- The crossover game, (even though definitely possible of a localization) will be quite a wait for us, and its place in the timeline and if it is canon or not is highly debatable, but since phoenix is still an attorney in it we can safely assume that it takes place before the gramarye trial) . Plus we have the problem of the GK2 situation of if it will be localized in the first place.

4- probably at least a 1-2 year wait for until even Japan sees GS5 finished and us even longer. (short but self explanatory)

5- (cannot remember who said it :P sorry) but if this is the end of the main series then we have little to look forward to after these are all released. Following the hypothetical scenario that each series is going to be a trilogy then what does that mean for us?
GS1-3= phoenix trilogy
GS4-5(6?)= apollo trilogy
GK1-2(3?)= Edgeworth trilogy
(Im not counting the cross over because its unlikely that phoenix-layton will get a series of their own)

If we go with this theory then it only means that we only have (GS6- AJ3) and (GK3-AAI3) to be released until all trilogies are complete (At least in Japan), and then the series has to either end or start anew with a whole new set of characters either after the AJ ark (meaning phoenix will be old or not in it at all) or before the time of Mia (to avoid chronological problems.) Thus either erasing or rehashing old plots and characters.

Sorry if i'm being really cynical, but this is the reality if the series is going to follow the pattern of trilogies. BUUUUT as i said this is only a theory, who knows, from events that happen the series could expand further on past issues from either series as well as subtly intergrating new characters into the series who could be the new protagonist.

One plot device that the series could intergrate, similar to GK2, is to have a rival defense attorney whilst retaining the frienemy relationship with the prosecutor.
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OK, so how long have we been waiting for this game?
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About 5 years, it seems... Wow, talk about a long time to wait for something XD

Yeah, it's interesting to go back and read all the news up to now. For a while, I thought GS5 would never happen... Looks like I was stood corrected.
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Ever since Duke Nukem Forever was released, I never lose hope for a game being released eventually anymore.


That's an amazingly valid point.

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I've reached the point where I don't care if Apollo or Phoenix or even both star in it. All I want is a game structured like the first four, and not like AAI at all.

But we don't have any info yet, and it would certainly be a shame if there was silence about it for awhile...
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