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I thought Athena's theme and Apollo's theme playing was an immersion breaker, and it felt like they were stalking me as a player (call me paranoid)
Hahaha, I thought about that as well. For instance, I remember Phoenix going to the hallway in the Space center for no reason, and Athena was there already... Staring at me... Smiling... Okay, I know you're the assistant, but how loyal can a person be? Why follow me when I'm obviously just walking around like an idiot? And how the hell did you get there before me?
It reminds me about this a little: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13YlEPwOfmk
I wouldn't say it's as bad as with Watson here. AA doesn't allow much room for walking around in the first place, so everyone, the player included, doesn't move around much except through the teleport buttons.
Now, if it was in an AAI game where Kay would randomly appear on-screen whenever Edgeworth walks off and back, that would be more like it.
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Same here. Optional dialogue branches are always welcome, but you really want to avoid sidetracking too much, especially in a mystery-driven game. I don't see visiting extra characters in a case that they're not involved in as that amazing, and there was always that option to visit Trucy/Apollo mid-case in DD anyway.
That said, if we want doting-dad Phoenix, we could always have him present Trucy's profile pic.
That said, if we want doting-dad Phoenix, we could always have him present Trucy's profile pic.
Now that you mention it, GS6, is kinda like the JFA of the new series (placement-wise (hopefully..!)) so I hope we can present profiles in it. It felt completely vice versa how you couldn't present profiles in DD whenever you wanted to but you could in PLvPWAA and you didn't even have to do it at any point in the game xD
We only had the option to present anything in court, though, so it kinda loses some of the appeal whenever you present it, only to get a penalty in your face. What a huge wasted opportunity. (:3
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Nearavex wrote:
I said it before, I'd want them to mix all three original trilogy themes into one objection theme for Phoenix =D
Like something similar with the orchestra soundtrack? Also what I hope is they remix Pursuit~Cornered in at least one future game.
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Like something similar with the orchestra soundtrack?.
Nah, not really. More like this piece, except with Objection themes instead of Court Begins themes.
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Like something similar with the orchestra soundtrack?.
Nah, not really. More like this piece, except with Objection themes instead of Court Begins themes.
Oh yeah that would be pretty neat! Makes me wish they would give us some more news on GS6 or DGS
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Huh? I don't really remember Kay or Athena giving testimony.
In a spoiler so minor it's not worth putting in a box: Kay does in AAI2.
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There is a common idea to have Apollo accused of murdering Thalassa, but I myself am a bit hyped about the idea of Apollo confronting Phoenix about said relation during the investigation - instead, I'd go with Trucy, instead.
Haven't we had enough "I murdered my mother" cases though :s. But I do hope they play the reveal in a good way. I don't want to see this turn into the Liar Revealed story.
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First rule of AA characters: If a parent is mentioned, they have died or will die.
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Why does everyone forget that Wocky's parents are still alive?
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sumguy28 wrote:
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First rule of AA characters: If a parent is mentioned, they have died or will die.
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Why does everyone forget that Wocky's parents are still alive?
We could probably include Oldbag's son, then. I mean, she's probably still alive and kicking, but you never know...
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Gammalad wrote:
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There is a common idea to have Apollo accused of murdering Thalassa, but I myself am a bit hyped about the idea of Apollo confronting Phoenix about said relation during the investigation - instead, I'd go with Trucy, instead.
Haven't we had enough "I murdered my mother" cases though :s. But I do hope they play the reveal in a good way. I don't want to see this turn into the Liar Revealed story.
We've only had 2. There are cliches that appear much more than that, such as the "victim writing the killer's name" cliche. I'm absolutely sick of that cliche, it's been in every single game!
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There is a common idea to have Apollo accused of murdering Thalassa, but I myself am a bit hyped about the idea of Apollo confronting Phoenix about said relation during the investigation - instead, I'd go with Trucy, instead.
Haven't we had enough "I murdered my mother" cases though :s. But I do hope they play the reveal in a good way. I don't want to see this turn into the Liar Revealed story.
We've only had 2. There are cliches that appear much more than that, such as the "victim writing the killer's name" cliche. I'm absolutely sick of that cliche, it's been in every single game!
And almost every time it's happened, aside from two times, it's not the victim who wrote it. However, as trite as it has become, this is still one of the simplest and most direct ways to set up a framing. It'd be pretty awkward in crime mystery fiction to NOT include that much of it.
Murder of a parent, however, should be used with more discretion. There are only so many dead parents fans are willing to toss their disbelief aside for. I personally don't see the point of having Thalassa murdered. She's long disappeared from their lives and had plenty of opportunities to return, unlike in Misty's case, but didn't. Its only shock factor would be when Trucy and Apollo realize that's their mom. (And Phoenix is just going to wing it and say "I was going to tell you, but the time wasn't right." To which, Apollo will sock him in the face. Hey, maybe we can see it in animation~) On the bright side, I suppose it'd be an easy way to bring back Maya to channel their dead mom for some answers.
No, Thalassa should return, but stay alive; maybe become a suspect herself, so Apollo can defend her. That's the biggest offer of filial respect a son could give. The resolution of such a case would be suitable for her confession.
And then they all lived happily ever after~! ...Meh.
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And then they all lived happily ever after~! ...Meh.
And then they announce GS7 :P
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I've said this before, but I want to see Apollo accused of murder. He's the only one of the main playable characters who's never been a defendant. Maybe you get to choose whether Apollo defends himself, or get Phoenix do defend him. I'd like the games to have more of a Mass Effect-esque decision system, it would make them more immersive.
I hate to shoot that idea down, but if you've heard some bts comments on the branching paths of Mass Effect, you'd realize that in order to have the amount of writing AA has and then a decision-making system on top of it would most likely mean that as a part of the budget restraints Capcom would have to cut out tons of potential dialogue just to make two different versions of the same story for instance.
In other words, you'd get shorter cases and a shorter game. Replayability would grow but I think it increases the chance of getting worse storytelling since then Capcom would not only have to make sure there are no contradictions in a linear story, they'd also have to check that every decision doesn't lead up to branching paths that don't mix well together and stuff like that. I don't think Ace Attorney is the franchise to be fit for decision making unless Capcom kicks up the budget and team-size, or just the writing team. I'm not much of a developer myself, but looking at what Mass Effect became, I think it's best to leave choice-gameplay out if we want better stories.
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I had an idea for a new prosecutor in GS6. A very old, veteran prosecutor in his 90s who hasn't prosecuted in over 10 years, who turns out to be the one who taught Manfred Von Karma how to prosecute 50+ years ago. He's close to death, and he's like the End from Metal Gear Solid 3, wanting one last case before he dies.
I likes it up to this part, somehow. Then, somehow, it went downhill.
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I had an idea for a new prosecutor in GS6. A very old, veteran prosecutor in his 90s who hasn't prosecuted in over 10 years, who turns out to be the one who taught Manfred Von Karma how to prosecute 50+ years ago. He's close to death, and he's like the End from Metal Gear Solid 3, wanting one last case before he dies. He ends up being even more ruthless than Von Karma was, and strikes fear into the hearts of Apollo and Athena. He attempts to murder Phoenix, as he was the one who got his protege sent to prison. He ends up being the one who hired The Phantom, as well as the one who shot him after he ended up being useless to him.
He's a 90 year-old veteran prosecutor-sniper who taught a man who only cared for his perfect self and tries to murder a lawyer who has absolutely no combat experience and still fails, and somehow ends up admitting that he's responsible for the space center sabotage cases. The only way I can see this ending is that he blows himself up with a bomb he has strapped on himself and takes the detention center with him.
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dimentiorules wrote:
I had an idea for a new prosecutor in GS6. A very old, veteran prosecutor in his 90s who hasn't prosecuted in over 10 years, who turns out to be the one who taught Manfred Von Karma how to prosecute 50+ years ago. He's close to death, and he's like the End from Metal Gear Solid 3, wanting one last case before he dies. He ends up being even more ruthless than Von Karma was, and strikes fear into the hearts of Apollo and Athena. He attempts to murder Phoenix, as he was the one who got his protege sent to prison. He ends up being the one who hired The Phantom, as well as the one who shot him after he ended up being useless to him.
I think you're linking this guy way too many links. I do like the idea of a near-death prosecutor who's not bound by social norms, and will act reckless because he knows he's not going to get punished. Just get rid of the link to von Karma, and killing the Phantom. (He could've hired the phantom at one point, and could answer these questions.)
I do like the idea of him threatening to kill the immortal Phoenix Wright,
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There needs to be a case where Phoenix and Apollo work together. I'd like to see what Apollo thinks of Phoenix with his badge.
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