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After the end of GS4-4, Phoenix is allowed to re-instate himself as a lawyer. However, Odoroki still functions as the main character. Phoenix would act as a "Mia" of sorts, assiting you in the tougher situations.
In one of the earlier cases, we would finally learn about what Maya's been doing and where she's been. We'd also learn what happened to several other important characters and why, such as Franziska, Godot, and Gumshoe.
Kyouya would still remain as one of the main prosecutors, unless a new one is introduced. However, the final case would be an exception. Instead of playing as Odoroki, Phoenix decides to take over on this case. The prosecutor of this case would not be Kyouya, however. Out of the blue, our old friend Miles Edgeworth appears, ready to prosecute, possibly as Kyouya's mentor.
So, what do you think? I plan on updating this post with more ideas later on.
Feel free to post your own ideas as well.
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I want Odoroki to lose a case in GS5: namely the first or second case. That might help pace up his character development. He would lose and feel bad (not emo) about it, still believing that his client was innocent. The last case he would catch up that case again and Odoroki pwns.
Or he would take a case where he is defending a significant person (friend?). Maybe a beloved character from the PW era? And what if that person is really the murderer? That would make him have to choose between "pursuit the truth" or "save a good friend". Crazy, I know (and I'm not entirely sure about this
)I'm in the thoughts that Kyouya takes the spot as the main prosecutor once again. And I'm not entirely sure about Edgeworth dropping by. The only PW prosecutor I'd like to see once again on the prosecution bench is Godot, er I mean Franziska. If she had some significant character development during the timeline gap, that would be awesome.
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I would not mind if you could use Mr Grossberg in a flashback case,
either that or one of the following...
-use Lana (out of prison)
-use a reinstared Angel Starr as detective.
-use Gregory Edgeworth in a flashback case.
-or Kirihito Garyuu in a flashback.
-have a new Judge in one of the cases (ie who is guilty of killing someone at a judges conference, so he can only preside over 1 case) and where udgey is the one your defending.
-Have Jake marshall reinstated.
-Find out what happened to the Feys.
-Prosecutor Payne as a defendant!
-Return of Edgeworth.
that is a lot.
but it is good.
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I would not mind if you could use Mr Grossberg in a flashback case,
either that or one of the following...
-use Lana (out of prison)
Highly doubt the Grossberg one, since he isn't really important to Odoroki's arc. Lana Tomoe might show up, though.
No relation to Odoroki's arc whatsoever, no matter how many recurring characters come and overshadow ole' Apollo. Bringing back Gregory Shin is highly unlikely.
See response on Angel Starr.
Only if he's got something relevant to offer, maybe.
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Indeed, he's overused. That's why if he absolutely HAS to show up in GS5, it better be for a damn good reason that could affect Gyakuten Saiban gameplay for all of eternity.
Or he could be the victim.
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Actually, I kind of hope not one of those things happen. If Phoenix ever returned to being a lawyer, that would make Odoroki completely pointless. Who would hire him when they could just as easily hire Phoenix, especially if he's cleared of any wrongdoing and fully reinstated? Mia as the "all knowing mentor" was annoying enough by the end of the series, I thought. If HoboPhoenix had sat at the bench with Odoroki through every case he would have been unbearable.
Unless he continues to forge evidence even after he's been reinstated. That might make for some interesting conflict.
And I don't understand how everyone keeps asking, "What happened to these people?" Isn't it obvious where they must be? Maya and Pearl and running Kurain. Edgeworth is living and working overseas (just like he was for the past two games). Franziska is living and working overseas (just like she was after JFA). And Godot is...gone. He's not coming back. The only one really requiring explaination is Gumshoe, since theoretically he should still be in the city and a detective, and we haven't seen him yet. But that just might be because he doesn't work with Kyouya on cases. Odoroki didn't have any oppertunities to visit police headquarters in 4, so it's not that unreasonable.
I don't think Kyouya will be GS5's prosecutor. There are only so many details Capcom can put out about each game in order to promote it, and during Phoenix's arc they always used the appearance of a new prosecutor to do so. With GS5, they have to out-hype "Phoenix is a hobo!" to keep people interested. I don't think they can do that if all they have to announce pre-release is that Odoroki and Kyouya are back, same as they were before. They're going to need someone new with a fantastic design. (I've got my fingers crossed for an older woman).
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"KYOUYA IS A HOBO!"
Hey, if it keeps the people interested, why not? But by all means, don't take the above statement seriously.
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What do you think?
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*cough*GS4 Case 4*cough*
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Maybe Lana?
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Maybe Lana?
No, no Lana. That's not new enough to blow everyone's socks off, and I think she'd make for a boring antagonist. GS5 needs someone tougher than that.
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). I would like to know more about him, seeing as he's the protagonist and all. A bit on his family life, a bit on why he became a defense attorney in the first place... maybe his dad was a noble, valiant defense attorney. Or maybe his dad was a perfectionist asshole prosecutor a la von Karma.Hey, maybe his dad could be the new prosecutor!
Also, I want to see Edgeworth as a victim. It's time he kicked the bucket.
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Maybe Lana?
No, no Lana. That's not new enough to blow everyone's socks off, and I think she'd make for a boring antagonist. GS5 needs someone tougher than that.
Wendy Oldbag! That'd sure blow my socks off. I doubt you'd be able to get an objection in through her rambling, though, so the judge may find in favor of her just so she'll shut up.
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One idea I'd like to see is controlling two characters at once during the investigation phases. You could send Odoroki to one location and look for clues, while Minuki could check out another place, perhaps somewhere only she could get to. You could perhaps coodinate their efforts so that one character can effect things to allow the other the gain access to new areas. (Odoroki distracting a bouncer so Minuki can sneak into a club, etc)
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Hey, maybe his dad could be the new prosecutor!
As for returning characters, 10 of JFA's 32 characters are repeats from the first game (roughly one third of GS1's cast reappeared in the sequel, not including case 5). If (and really, *if*) that kind of pattern continues, we should expect to see a few characters from GS4 come back in GS5.
Other than Odoroki, Minuki, Kyouya, Ema, and Phoenix, I predict we'll also see Makoto, Varan, Lamiroir, and Hamigaki again. There's a lot about those characters that hasn't been cleared up yet.
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It would not be the first time Capcom has taken a largely unpopular game that fans didn't like and pushed it to the end of canon, making it the "last" game in the series (DMC2 is now the "last" game in the series to be places after all future DMC games).
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It's still the best selling and best scoring game of the series. I haven't seen any indication that the fan reaction has been SOOOOOO awful to warrent something like that.
I would love to see Takita again, I just hope he'd have enough to do outside the context of being a yakuza kid. I wouldn't want another whole case involving his entire family.
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For the first case, Phoenix has re-taken the bar exam, and is in court again, defending Odoroki. Insane enough for you yet?
In the second case, Odoroki defends the judge. Odoroki decides that defense is no longer his ideal job.
In the third case, Edgeworth is defense again, and he defends Gumshoe.
In the final case, Phoenix is attacked by someone, but kills this someone in self-defense, so Maya defends Phoenix!
Prosecutors:
Case 1 - As always, Payne is the first victim.
Case 2 - Kyouya takes a case for what will be the final time (see below)
Case 3 - Lana prosecutes. End of story.
Case 4 - Tired of being a defense attorney, Odoroki struggles to find a new job. He's whisked into prosecution and attempts to get Phoenix guilty.
Victims:
Case 1 - Masaka is killed by Winston Payne, angered by her idiocy. He frames Odoroki.
Case 2 - Shelly De killer is killed by Matt Engarde, who frames the judge.
Case 3 - Kyouya is killed by a member of a competing band. Gumshoe is a fan of this band.
Case 4 - Zenitoria, bitter with Phoenix, breaks out of prison and attempts to kill him. Phoenix struggles with him until Zenitoria is killed, and Phoenix turns himself into the police.
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Other than that, I'm open to pretty much anything. I'm not sure how much more they can do with Kyouya, considering what he goes through in GS4 and doesn't seem terribly affected by, but I'd love to see him given a good character arc. (LOL PROSECUTOR GARYUU CHOOSES DEATH? Well, I don't think it would have the same effect on Odoroki, so that's kinda closed off too)
I'd like a cool older woman prosecutor too, actually. I'm not sure how she'd be connected to Odoroki--maybe she won't be--and it might come off to "Franziska-ish"...but Odoroki's series needs more likeable women, dammit!
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He does not play a big role in the over arching story of the series and unlike Lotta who is a journalist so I understand her showing up in later entries, I think the crazy guy Hamigaki has a better chance of returning in the sequel then Takita.
Just for fun lets look at all the characters who were in GS1 and returned in GS2, but not the obvious main characters (Phoneix, Maya, etc.) just the support characters. We have Lotta, Will Powers, and Oldbag. Now Powers made sence because the case how to do with the nickel samurai and global studios where he worked, and Oldbag was a funny and entertaining character who is also connected to that plot line. Unlike Hamigaki and Lotta who are journalist and could really be placed in anywhere in any case and make sence, you would have to do another plotline with the Yakuza again.
Really other then his Kung-Fu animation he's not really all that special, same with Makoto and her drawings, but I think she has a better chance of reappearing then Takita because of her main story influence, similar to characters like Varan and Lamiroir.
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Case 1: Turnabout Shrink
Odoroki would defend a man accused of killing his girlfriends psychatrist. The biggest thing agaisnt him is that his client actually thinks he commited the crime.
Case 2: Turnabout Furlong
Takita's new girlfriend, the daughter of the man who would train a racehorse belonging to his father, would be accused of killing the horse's jockey. Odoroki goes up against the mysterious new prosecutor, Scarlet Night.
Case 3: Turnabout Zoo
Odoroki defends the zoo keeper of one on Odoroki's favorite childhood haunts. Witnesses include a Gorilla that communicates by computer(where one press would bring up the old joke about where a gorilla sits) and the murder victim as called by a certian medium we all know.
Case 4: Turnabout Swallow
Odoroki's stepfather is accussed of murder's commited by the mysterious political activist Red Swallow (Think a cross between the Zodiac Killer and Ghost in the Shell's Laughing Man). In order to win Odoroki must find the real Red Swallow and uncover Procescutor Night's real identity
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That'd be a somewhat new approach, but around a familair...area.
There also should be a female prosecutor and the return of Takita; and his girlfriend Makoto... for the fans XD
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