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Plot twist: Hemlock is actually one of Nick's multiple personalities.

Sorry, I think I might've ruined the ending. Does that count as spoilers?
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Blizdi wrote:
To be honest, we cant really form SUPER coherent theories atm, considering there are THREE trial days, no two, so who knows what twists will happen



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on day three brisbane wakes up and there will be hell to pay. to be fair i was really disappointed that brisbane was the victim. through out this wait for this case i was eagerly awaiting one final confrontation with our angry friend to get back at him for what he pulled in turnabout of the snow. but hey we got edgeworth [ thus repeating the trend of him being involved in every last case besides the 4th game.] and that school teacher just screams an edgeworth witness. if brisbane had been there he would have none of her shit.
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Ropfa wrote:
Plot twist: Hemlock is actually one of Nick's multiple personalities.

Sorry, I think I might've ruined the ending. Does that count as spoilers?

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I see that we are doing theories now, huh?

Well, here's mine.

Spoiler: Spoilers for the 4th case of Contempt of Court
Morag Weever is Hemlock.

My reasons for that is because of all these gold stars. Her throwing them around may seem like a weird funny gimmick, but in reality it's her way for her to spy on everyone. Is she the one who assaulted Brisbane? Maybe. But still, the placement of that gold star on your court record seems heavily suspicious.

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Tilemaxosbra wrote:
I see that we are doing theories now, huh?

Well, here's mine.

Spoiler: Spoilers for the 4th case of Contempt of Court
Morag Weever is Hemlock.

My reasons for that is because of all these gold stars. Her throwing them around may seem like a weird funny gimmick, but in reality it's her way for her to spy on everyone. Is she the one who assaulted Brisbane? Maybe. But still, the placement of that gold star on your court record seems heavily suspicious.


Dat theory.
Speaking of crazy, hows about you update that percentage this for old times sake :D
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Ok, I've finally finished the whole first half, so I guess I can theorize a bit more clearly now. Needless to say, expect constant spoilers for this game and the series as a whole in my post.

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Who is Hemlock?

- Snow? He is in a position to keep an eye on the folks involved in these cases and he was accused of murder. What if he actually did do the killing, got caught, but managed to threaten Vulper enough to get the red-haired fool to take the blame? It's odd that the police department just happens to be getting rid of their files on Hemlock, too. Why, maybe he even threatened his way to getting his own office. Since no one seems to know who he actually is, he absolutely could have stood right in court and got away with it. I definitely carry suspicions about him.

- Vinny? I personally thought that the puppets were just meant to be symbolic, but it seems that Hemlock used to do puppet shows with Gant considering that he gave Vex a puppet. Strangely though, Hemlock doesn't seem to have a Vinny puppet. I'm not sure that there's much to go on here, but it would be odd to introduce such an important seeming character and then have him just disappear. Could he have been operating from the shadows since the very first clash between him and Vulper?

- Maya? This is just topkek territory for me now, honestly. I'd be amazed if it happened but I can't see it happening.

-Someone else? As long as its not a character that we don't even meet whatsoever until the very end, I think it'll be interesting.

What do you guys think? I wonder if it's even possible to provide a clear case for who Hemlock is using all of our available evidence. Well, we'll see eventually, I guess. Can't wait to finish it up!
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I still say it's Maya. Cardy mentioned her a few times in this one I think, and he wouldn't have done that if he didn't want to remind us that she's important to the plot.

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Holy crap, did the view count for this thread seriously go up by over a thousand in 48 hours?!

Thank you all for still being so into the game after all these years, it's really rewarding to see it all pay off. Now I'm on the home stretch of production, I'm dedicated now towards completing the final part of the entire Contempt of Court whenever that may be.

Gonna update and tidy up the main post soon and stick the download link to Case 4 there while I'm at it.

By the way I'm loving some of these theories :D
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Cardiovore wrote:
Holy crap, did the view count for this thread seriously go up by over a thousand in 48 hours?!

Thank you all for still being so into the game after all these years, it's really rewarding to see it all pay off. Now I'm on the home stretch of production, I'm dedicated now towards completing the final part of the entire Contempt of Court whenever that may be.

Gonna update and tidy up the main post soon and stick the download link to Case 4 there while I'm at it.

By the way I'm loving some of these theories :D


If you don't finish it by February, I'm gonna Hem-lock you in the closet.
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I have a question, why is it when I pick other cases other than "Ensnared" it says "Not available for download"?
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You're supposed to put the package into your pre-existing CoC folder. Same as if you would if you, say, downloaded Turnabout of the Snow. The game still functions if you don't, but only Ensnared actually works.
That one guy from AAO that made about a dozen cases that all kinda go off the deep end and fall apart at one point or another.
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Loving the case so far. Small issue I've consistently seen without fail however is that the music stops at the wrong point during the testimony previews.

While it's supposed to stop after you finish the last statement, it actually stops after the first bit of dialogue AFTER the testimony.
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Insanity Brit wrote:
Loving the case so far. Small issue I've consistently seen without fail however is that the music stops at the wrong point during the testimony previews.

While it's supposed to stop after you finish the last statement, it actually stops after the first bit of dialogue AFTER the testimony.

I wanted the music to fade out with the image, but it had to be one before the other so the image fades out first and the music follows.
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Darth Wiader wrote:
I have a question, why is it when I pick other cases other than "Ensnared" it says "Not available for download"?

Ohh I know what's happened... The intro txt files must have replaced the originals. I may have to reupload the game without those stand-in intros so they don't overwrite anything.
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So, is this case gonna be released in 2 parts?
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Blizdi wrote:
So, is this case gonna be released in 2 parts?

Yes, there's only one more instalment to go.
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Oh well. Guess we're gonna wait until 2017 for the second part to be out.
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2017? That's a funny way to spell 2022
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2017? 2022?
Woah, I don't want to rush ;)

EDIT: I've reuploaded Case 4 with intro files that don't overwrite the originals with "NOT AVAILABLE". So if you are unable to play the other cases after the original download, this will put the original intro files back.
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I guess I'll just throw in a shitpost theory of my own too.

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Schaden Freude is Vex Vulper's father. Don't believe me?
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You can't argue with science! :scientific:

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I play your fangame , already since 2012 , and I was pleased that it continues ! Is it clear when the second part of the case 4 comes out? I can not wait ! : D I 'm excited to see how the game ends , and how it goes ! My favorite case was Case 2. The hotel , the story , it was my Meinug the best case of the 4 cases ! And before I have a short Lets Play channel established And yes , I will ( without a voice ) play the game again , and I will support you , I thought that I letsplaye it . Here my channel if you want to see it ... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaK_Vc ... 7tiL9v6mMA In any case , I wish you for the Finish , good luck and success ! I 'm looking forward to part 2 ! : < )
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the not available in this download error is still there. at first i thought it was due to the version of pywright ropa included with his latest case. but the other two games i have open just fine.
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One thing that rubs me the wrong way is the grape juice thing.

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You know it's actually grape juice, right? It was NEVER wine in the games. Even in the Japanese versions
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Blizdi wrote:
One thing that rubs me the wrong way is the grape juice thing.

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You know it's actually grape juice, right? It was NEVER wine in the games. Even in the Japanese versions

Wrong game ;)

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the not available in this download error is still there. at first i thought it was due to the version of pywright ropa included with his latest case. but the other two games i have open just fine.

Did you download from this link? https://www.mediafire.com/?ru93u2ou1mpsrw1 Be sure to replace all files and folders so the new intro files can overwrite the NOT AVAILABLE ones.
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Blizdi wrote:
One thing that rubs me the wrong way is the grape juice thing.

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You know it's actually grape juice, right? It was NEVER wine in the games. Even in the Japanese versions


again wrong game

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it's meant to be a jab at people that thought it was wine in the first place.
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ok that fixed it . no idea why it was not working before.
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Cardiovore wrote:
Wrong game ;)


DAMMIT. CURSE YOU ROPFA. YOU MUST HAVE USED TELEPATHY TO FORCE ME TO POST HERE.

Side note: Dis case is base(d)
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Hey Cardiovore, you should release Turnabout Before A Fall <3

Gosh, I bet you didn't expect anyone to mention that again
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Blizdi wrote:
Hey Cardiovore, you should release Turnabout Before A Fall <3


Come to think of it, what WAS the original plan for that case? I know it was supposed to be a filler but I'm actually genuinely curious.
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Darth Wiader wrote:
Blizdi wrote:
Hey Cardiovore, you should release Turnabout Before A Fall <3


Come to think of it, what WAS the original plan for that case? I know it was supposed to be a filler but I'm actually genuinely curious.


Who knows? I only found out about it cuz when I beta tested CoI, ropfa mentioned that it was originally four cases. Personally, I would have liked it, would have added to the pacing, instead of having one after another with connections
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Blizdi wrote:
Darth Wiader wrote:
Blizdi wrote:
Hey Cardiovore, you should release Turnabout Before A Fall <3


Come to think of it, what WAS the original plan for that case? I know it was supposed to be a filler but I'm actually genuinely curious.


Who knows? I only found out about it cuz when I beta tested CoI, ropfa mentioned that it was originally four cases. Personally, I would have liked it, would have added to the pacing, instead of having one after another with connections



i prefer the more connected cases personally.
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Blizdi wrote:
Darth Wiader wrote:
Blizdi wrote:
Hey Cardiovore, you should release Turnabout Before A Fall <3


Come to think of it, what WAS the original plan for that case? I know it was supposed to be a filler but I'm actually genuinely curious.


Who knows? I only found out about it cuz when I beta tested CoI, ropfa mentioned that it was originally four cases. Personally, I would have liked it, would have added to the pacing, instead of having one after another with connections

Ready for the big shock?
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There wasn't one.
Really. It literally didn't grow beyond simply the name. And a case art image featuring Brisbane.

But Turnabout Scapegoat was originally something VERY different, before I went "Sod this", scrapped it all and redid it from the ground up, borrowing characters and scenarios from that original lost case.
It was called The Split Turnabout. And yes, it was rubbish.
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[quote="Cardiovore"
Ready for the big shock?
...
There wasn't one.
Really. It literally didn't grow beyond simply the name. And a case art image featuring Brisbane.

But Turnabout Scapegoat was originally something VERY different, before I went "Sod this", scrapped it all and redid it from the ground up, borrowing characters and scenarios from that original lost case.
It was called The Split Turnabout. And yes, it was rubbish.[/quote]

CLOOOOOSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUREEE
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MRW there's a Boogeyman reference 30 seconds in:
Spoiler:
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But Turnabout Scapegoat was originally something VERY different, before I went "Sod this", scrapped it all and redid it from the ground up, borrowing characters and scenarios from that original lost case.
It was called The Split Turnabout. And yes, it was rubbish.


What were these ideas, if I may ask? You don't have to answer if you don't want to, of course.
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Um... opening up the Court Record during the flashback in the Turnabout into the Unknown making PyWright crash... for some reason...
Why am I even here?

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Um... opening up the Court Record during the flashback in the Turnabout into the Unknown making PyWright crash... for some reason...

First of all, wrong thread.
Here's what ropfa wrote in his thread
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1 - Go into the Turnabout into the Unknown folder and delete these files:
-autosave.ns
-save.ns
-save_backup (a folder)
2 - Delete the file intro.txt.
3 - Find the file intro2.txt and rename it to intro.txt.
4 - Start a new game.
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jolly_old_saint wrote:
MRW there's a Boogeyman reference 30 seconds in:
Spoiler:
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Ahh I miss that guy!

DarthWiader wrote:
What were these ideas, if I may ask? You don't have to answer if you don't want to, of course.

- Robert Snow was still the detective. And his sprite was just... ill.
- Erol Brisbane was still the prosecutor. No backstory about his eye though.
- Marvin Grossberg was still the victim. The only reason I chose him was because I didn't know how to make sprites way back then, so I just thought of a very minor canon character to kill off instead.
- Jack Crane (the victim of DT-2 in Scapegoat) was the defendant.
- The killer was an unknown serial killer nicknamed the Cardiovore due to the fact that his victims were all stabbed in the heart. His calling card was a King of Hearts playing card. (Ultimately became the inspiration for The Boogeyman.) And his true identity was...
Spoiler: Protection from a stupid idea
... John. Jack Crane's split personality. Hence The Split Turnabout.

You right now:
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- And Vex Vulper... didn't exist! :beef:

You can see how some of these developed with Contempt of Court ;)
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Cardiovore wrote:
jolly_old_saint wrote:
MRW there's a Boogeyman reference 30 seconds in:
Spoiler:
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Ahh I miss that guy!

DarthWiader wrote:
What were these ideas, if I may ask? You don't have to answer if you don't want to, of course.

- Robert Snow was still the detective. And his sprite was just... ill.
- Erol Brisbane was still the prosecutor. No backstory about his eye though.
- Marvin Grossberg was still the victim. The only reason I chose him was because I didn't know how to make sprites way back then, so I just thought of a very minor canon character to kill off instead.
- Jack Crane (the victim of DT-2 in Scapegoat) was the defendant.
- The killer was an unknown serial killer nicknamed the Cardiovore due to the fact that his victims were all stabbed in the heart. His calling card was a King of Hearts playing card. (Ultimately became the inspiration for The Boogeyman.) And his true identity was...
Spoiler: Protection from a stupid idea
... John. Jack Crane's split personality. Hence The Split Turnabout.

You right now:
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- And Vex Vulper... didn't exist! :beef:

You can see how some of these developed with Contempt of Court ;)



That sure was my face when I read that.
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well it's a good thing it was changed. i can't imagine this game with out vexy boy or krump.
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