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It was pretty good though I have some glaring fury-based objections to small flaws in sense in the film.
Although the music was fantastic I thought.
Oh and eternal life is worthless to the indestructable, immortal and awesome Inspector Groskey XD
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Question to ask is... is it okay to watch without having played the fourth game? There's nothing going on that's going to be out of place without knowing something from a game that hasn't been released in the West yet?
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It's perfectly fine to watch Eternal Diva without having played game four. To be honest Jean Descole's motives and so on aren't really explained, but it's a bit like Don Paolo in the first game, when Layton was like "Oh, it's you again" and we were all a bit o_0. I don't think you find out fully about Descole in Specter's Flute either, so it's okay.
According to TVTropes they changed Luke's voice in the EU version because English playtesters hated it so much. I'm so fixed on the idea of Luke as a five-year-old little girl that listening to the US version is reaaally weird for me.
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That's weird, I didn't know it was dubbed in the box set... when I went to see it it was subbed (and HELLA awesome). Guess I have to go buy it now XD
It's perfectly fine to watch Eternal Diva without having played game four. To be honest Jean Descole's motives and so on aren't really explained, but it's a bit like Don Paolo in the first game, when Layton was like "Oh, it's you again" and we were all a bit o_0. I don't think you find out fully about Descole in Specter's Flute either, so it's okay.
According to TVTropes they changed Luke's voice in the EU version because English playtesters hated it so much. I'm so fixed on the idea of Luke as a five-year-old little girl that listening to the US version is reaaally weird for me.
It's perfectly fine to watch Eternal Diva without having played game four. To be honest Jean Descole's motives and so on aren't really explained, but it's a bit like Don Paolo in the first game, when Layton was like "Oh, it's you again" and we were all a bit o_0. I don't think you find out fully about Descole in Specter's Flute either, so it's okay.
According to TVTropes they changed Luke's voice in the EU version because English playtesters hated it so much. I'm so fixed on the idea of Luke as a five-year-old little girl that listening to the US version is reaaally weird for me.
Cheers for that... the Blu-Ray has the option for English or Japanese audio, so you can be thrilled either way heh (I haven't played the normal DVD). Hang on, let me check something here for you... yes the normal DVD is the same. English 5.1 or 2.0, and Japanese 5.1 or 2.0, the latter does have English subtitles.
I've only really played the US versions of the Layton games but I've seen bits of the European versions on YouTube, so I was fully prepared for Luke's voice in the film. As I stated, I prefer the US version, it's far less "mockney" and sounds more muted, so it doesn't grate on the ears as much. Problem with many people trying to do something British-like is they end up either sounding faux Cockney (a la Dick van Dyke) or stupidly posh. Most people are not like that, myself included heh.
Personally if I'd been on the English playtesting group for the first game I would have given them all a big bitch slap for allowing the substitute Luke voice to be used :p
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Also, regarding Descole, there's a theory that
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Son-Gohan wrote:
Did you hear already the two new tracks (Layton and Wright Theme)?
I uploaded them on Youtube, feel free to watch (and listen). ^^
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright - Wright Theme
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright - Layton Theme
Those tracks aren't "new".I uploaded them on Youtube, feel free to watch (and listen). ^^
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright - Wright Theme
Professor Layton vs. Phoenix Wright - Layton Theme
Besides that point I watched parts of the English dubbed Eternal Diva (yeah yeah shoot me) and I just simply loved Descole's voice and the man who graces my posts, Inspector Grosky! Professor Layton and the Flute of Malevolent Destiny cannot simply come out soon enough in the next fall, unless if Level-5 were to already have set up their overseas offices in order to get the 4th game out quicker.
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FKJHSDFLKJHDSFL That was the best thing ever!
The low point for me would've been the prologue, it just felt like a sugar rush. But after that everything takes off smoothly. The music is excellent, the art direction was superb! And I was in love with the scenario. I have to admit, I was curious how the puzzles would work in a non-interactive medium. But they worked! I was able to stay comfortably one step ahead of the party for the first puzzles, but Layton and Co got the best of me for the 4th. (Also helped that the Puzzle music was just so awesome!) The side characters were excellent, as for the contestants, I had some fun trying to guess who advances and who didn't. I thought I did half way decent, but I must admit, the director beat me when it came to getting the winner.
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Dang it, why don't they just announce it in the states. I'd buy like 3 copies!
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Wooster wrote:
Okay, I watched Eternal Diva illegally.
FKJHSDFLKJHDSFL That was the best thing ever!
The low point for me would've been the prologue, it just felt like a sugar rush. But after that everything takes off smoothly. The music is excellent, the art direction was superb! And I was in love with the scenario. I have to admit, I was curious how the puzzles would work in a non-interactive medium. But they worked! I was able to stay comfortably one step ahead of the party for the first puzzles, but Layton and Co got the best of me for the 4th. (Also helped that the Puzzle music was just so awesome!) The side characters were excellent, as for the contestants, I had some fun trying to guess who advances and who didn't. I thought I did half way decent, but I must admit, the director beat me when it came to getting the winner.
SO
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AWESOME
Dang it, why don't they just announce it in the states. I'd buy like 3 copies!
FKJHSDFLKJHDSFL That was the best thing ever!
The low point for me would've been the prologue, it just felt like a sugar rush. But after that everything takes off smoothly. The music is excellent, the art direction was superb! And I was in love with the scenario. I have to admit, I was curious how the puzzles would work in a non-interactive medium. But they worked! I was able to stay comfortably one step ahead of the party for the first puzzles, but Layton and Co got the best of me for the 4th. (Also helped that the Puzzle music was just so awesome!) The side characters were excellent, as for the contestants, I had some fun trying to guess who advances and who didn't. I thought I did half way decent, but I must admit, the director beat me when it came to getting the winner.
SO
MUCH
AWESOME
Dang it, why don't they just announce it in the states. I'd buy like 3 copies!
That movie was the best thing that ever happened to me. Its ok I watched the movie on youtube because Australia doesn't deserve awsomeness apparently.
The movie seemed very very rushed to me the only times I got to think were the parts where the new video was loading. But I laughed so many times, but to me that movie was just fan-service in a dvd. It did nothing to the other games, but maybe when.....THAT happened but thats it.
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New trailer YouTube link here.
Haha, Young Layton's haircut XD
Still, it looks and sounds awesome. I don't even care about the 3D models, they seem to be well animated.
Haha, Young Layton's haircut XD
Still, it looks and sounds awesome. I don't even care about the 3D models, they seem to be well animated.
If I could I would have my hair look like that if I didn't look weird like that but afro for the win.
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Wooster wrote:
Okay, I watched Eternal Diva illegally.
FKJHSDFLKJHDSFL That was the best thing ever!
The low point for me would've been the prologue, it just felt like a sugar rush. But after that everything takes off smoothly. The music is excellent, the art direction was superb! And I was in love with the scenario. I have to admit, I was curious how the puzzles would work in a non-interactive medium. But they worked! I was able to stay comfortably one step ahead of the party for the first puzzles, but Layton and Co got the best of me for the 4th. (Also helped that the Puzzle music was just so awesome!) The side characters were excellent, as for the contestants, I had some fun trying to guess who advances and who didn't. I thought I did half way decent, but I must admit, the director beat me when it came to getting the winner.
SO
MUCH
AWESOME
Dang it, why don't they just announce it in the states. I'd buy like 3 copies!
FKJHSDFLKJHDSFL That was the best thing ever!
The low point for me would've been the prologue, it just felt like a sugar rush. But after that everything takes off smoothly. The music is excellent, the art direction was superb! And I was in love with the scenario. I have to admit, I was curious how the puzzles would work in a non-interactive medium. But they worked! I was able to stay comfortably one step ahead of the party for the first puzzles, but Layton and Co got the best of me for the 4th. (Also helped that the Puzzle music was just so awesome!) The side characters were excellent, as for the contestants, I had some fun trying to guess who advances and who didn't. I thought I did half way decent, but I must admit, the director beat me when it came to getting the winner.
SO
MUCH
AWESOME
Dang it, why don't they just announce it in the states. I'd buy like 3 copies!
Hehehe, try seeing it in an IMAX cinema on the premiere with a crowd of fellow Laytoners XDD
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Hehehe, try seeing it in an IMAX cinema on the premiere with a crowd of fellow Laytoners XDD
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I e-mailed them and I got a reply:
Hey Lauren!The Proffessor Layton VS Phoenix Wright game will come out for the 3ds, but no clues as to when. It will probably have an Australian Release.Sincerely,Good Game team
I honestly think the whole thing with them maybe releasing it outside Japan will be a load of rubbish and it will be released.
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What did people call their parrot btw? I went obtuse and called mine Norway hah hah,..
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I saw eternal diva and it made me cry:(
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I was a Layton fan since the first game was released in the states. Such a wonderful series. I hope it gets more fans now. :D
Hey, Does anyone know if the Eternal Diva is going to get a NA release?
I'd like to buy it but of course there's all that region encoding and what not.
Is there a way to watch foreign dvd's without actually buy a foreign dvd player?
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*tidies up*
Eternal Diva kicks ass. More detailed opinion to come. :P
Does we even do these things anymore?
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Pierre wrote:
Wooster wrote:
Pierre wrote:
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Spoiler: Yeah... Maybe there should be a separate thread for this :O
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As for Remi, I think her problem was that she spent so much time away from the main cast and without a person who could act as an alterego. For what little I've seen of her, she's still able to push Luke's buttons, is a pilot, and is a self-reliant competent investigator. If she had someone to talk with that wasn't quest related, I think she would've filled out well. But that would've stolen screen time from Layton, Luke and the rest of the contestants. Considering how much was going on on Layton's side of the story, I think it was a reasonable trade off. Not to mention that her investigation was 100% about the story behind the game. You don't want that exposed before the time is right.
That's still a lot more then I can say for Flora, who likes animals and costumes. Aside from that, I don't know anything of significance about her.
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Also regarding the kidnapped girl who thought she was Melina I think she was somewhat indoctrinated by Whistler into her plans. What I don't properly understand is why the fake Melina girl would know about Professor Layton and know he was a threat to the plan.
I can understand why Janice-Melina would know seeing as Janice was a friend of the professor's and therefore Janice-Melina had access to her memories and knowledge but Melina's spirit alone combined with the little girl could not possibly know of Professor Layton could she?
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What I did find peculiar on the other hand, was how she found the kidnapping case relevant to the mystery of eternal life.
As for the little girl and her distrust of Layton. I think it's basic deduction who got her to not want Layton. Professor Wisler was neutral to Layton. That leaves Descole. Now, why Descole would let Layton play the game, if he was such a threat, is another question.
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The little green-haired girl makes me think of Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni.
As for the plot, I think it was a little Pokemon-Movie like. Actually, I could even imagine turning that thing into a Pokemon Movie, just switch the word "puzzle" for "Pokemon" and you got POKEMON THE X-THOUSSANDS MOVIE!!!
But I guess they just couldn't possibly cram more into barely 110 minutes. There were quite a few plot-holes in there and some things stayed untypically unresolved, but, meh, Luke was awesome, Layton's brainstorming was awesome and the side characters were awesome too.
That's definitely a movie I'm going to remember for longer than just a few days.
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I didn't see finding the island as such a big plot hole, I seem to recall Remi borrowing a map of the island from the Professor's mentor. Combined with Inspector Chest Hair, and she had all she needs to find it.
As for the little girl and her distrust of Layton. I think it's basic deduction who got her to not want Layton. Professor Wisler was neutral to Layton. That leaves Descole. Now, why Descole would let Layton play the game, if he was such a threat, is another question.
As for the little girl and her distrust of Layton. I think it's basic deduction who got her to not want Layton. Professor Wisler was neutral to Layton. That leaves Descole. Now, why Descole would let Layton play the game, if he was such a threat, is another question.
Yes but logically if the island is thought to be just a myth why would one even bother looking for it? But yes I'd say Inspector Manly was the decisive factor in finding the island.
Also I may have missed something but who is Professor Wisler?
And knowing Descole it seems obvious why that fool would let Layton in, for a sense of challenge and drama to feed his ego. However if the little girl was more a pawn for Descole than Whistler then it would seem that Descole was unaware Layton was playing his game as she would undoubtedly be informed of Descole's plans and therefore not be surprised by Layton's appearance on the ship.
On another note there's nothing to say he didn't kill the ones who failed the challenges at the island since I don't think we see them again which makes me quite sad as I'd been hoping the friendly sea-captain would survive.
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His name was spelled Wisler in the OST I've got, I think I mixed up when I used that as a reference to spell the name, My apologies.
As for killing the remaining survivors... I'm a bit disinclined to think they're dead, despite the game being one of 'life and death'. Ignoring for an instant, that even when someone being dead in the games is an important plot element, and that they're alive and kicking by the credits. Whistler was among the group that failed Puzzle 003. And Layton told the people he tricked into failing Puzzle 004 that he'll come back for them. (Really, did he need to verify that there would be the same trap doors that littered the Crown Pitone?
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I understand the whole Little Girl's animosity towards Layton, but why did Descole or Whistler or whoever deem Inspector Grosky to be a threat? Didn't she push him off the ship? Then again, I haven't seen the movie for a while, so I may have missed something.
Descole may have a flair for the dramatic but he doesn't actually kill people. Only, er, blows up places and sets wolves on them and crushes them with giant robot/pianos and things like that. Totally excusable.
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As for killing the remaining survivors... I'm a bit disinclined to think they're dead, despite the game being one of 'life and death'. Ignoring for an instant, that even when someone being dead in the games is an important plot element, and that they're alive and kicking by the credits. Whistler was among the group that failed Puzzle 003. And Layton told the people he tricked into failing Puzzle 004 that he'll come back for them. (Really, did he need to verify that there would be the same trap doors that littered the Crown Pitone?)
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Ooh, nice. Branching off from the all-encompassing "Professor Layton Topic" =D
I understand the whole Little Girl's animosity towards Layton, but why did Descole or Whistler or whoever deem Inspector Grosky to be a threat? Didn't she push him off the ship? Then again, I haven't seen the movie for a while, so I may have missed something.
Descole may have a flair for the dramatic but he doesn't actually kill people. Only, er, blows up places and sets wolves on them and crushes them with giant robot/pianos and things like that. Totally excusable.
I understand the whole Little Girl's animosity towards Layton, but why did Descole or Whistler or whoever deem Inspector Grosky to be a threat? Didn't she push him off the ship? Then again, I haven't seen the movie for a while, so I may have missed something.
Descole may have a flair for the dramatic but he doesn't actually kill people. Only, er, blows up places and sets wolves on them and crushes them with giant robot/pianos and things like that. Totally excusable.
Well Inspector Grosky was a man of the law, unlikely to be there for eternal life so obviously was investigating something.
Plus he survived fights with sharks TWICE! MAYBE THREE TIMES!
I can see why everyone should be afraid of Inspector Grosky. Also I don't think Descole wouldn't kill after all he did rather viciously lunge at Layton in the swordfight towards the end.
Still good to know the finalists survived (apart from the devil woman) but which wealthy eccentric do you mean? I think they all seemed relatively wealthy.
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I've only really played the US versions of the Layton games but I've seen bits of the European versions on YouTube, so I was fully prepared for Luke's voice in the film. As I stated, I prefer the US version, it's far less "mockney" and sounds more muted, so it doesn't grate on the ears as much. Problem with many people trying to do something British-like is they end up either sounding faux Cockney (a la Dick van Dyke) or stupidly posh. Most people are not like that, myself included heh.
The only thing about Layton I don't like is Luke's shitting awful voice. They need to hire someone who didn't learn a British accent by watching Oliver.
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Descole may have a flair for the dramatic but he doesn't actually kill people. Only, er, blows up places and sets wolves on them and crushes them with giant robot/pianos and things like that. Totally excusable.
Man, if that wasn't an Indiana Jones type spoiler of the movie, I'd have that sig'd.
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And about Luke's voice, as much of a voice industry freak as I am, Luke's UK voice didn't bother me as much as I was expecting it to(I know her accent is awful, but Lani Minella's Luke sounds... like a boy), but I gotta say: Maria Darling cannot narrate in character D: Her Luke was adorably pre-pubescent and everything, very few of her lines sounded awkward, but if that narration was supposed to be Luke, it... sure didn't sound like it o.o; The intro to that movie was aaawful.
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Oh, the eccentric man, the one who declared he had six months to live and tugged at his beard in a show of borderline-OCD. Really, the only person that "died" in the movie were Amelia's grandfather(shown in the credits) and they implied that Mr. Eccentric died - well, and Melina, but... that's sort of a plot point.
And about Luke's voice, as much of a voice industry freak as I am, Luke's UK voice didn't bother me as much as I was expecting it to(I know her accent is awful, but Lani Minella's Luke sounds... like a boy), but I gotta say: Maria Darling cannot narrate in character D: Her Luke was adorably pre-pubescent and everything, very few of her lines sounded awkward, but if that narration was supposed to be Luke, it... sure didn't sound like it o.o; The intro to that movie was aaawful.
And about Luke's voice, as much of a voice industry freak as I am, Luke's UK voice didn't bother me as much as I was expecting it to(I know her accent is awful, but Lani Minella's Luke sounds... like a boy), but I gotta say: Maria Darling cannot narrate in character D: Her Luke was adorably pre-pubescent and everything, very few of her lines sounded awkward, but if that narration was supposed to be Luke, it... sure didn't sound like it o.o; The intro to that movie was aaawful.
I never thought the 'lovable cockney scamp' was an especially bad accent don't get why everyone hates it.
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Wooster wrote:
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I think this was done just to give a basic reason why the footballer wanted eternal life. However, how eternal life is going to help someone with a knee injury, I don't know. It's eternal life, not full health.
Pierre wrote:
Spoiler: About Eternal Diva
The only possible theory I can think for this is Melina didn't want her father to know that she had returned for some reason, such as wanting Janice to be the star on the Crown Petore instead of the now 'alive' Melina. It's not the best theory, but eh.
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Spoiler: Question
I forget if something was mentioned in the scene in Melina's room. The only ideas I can think of are:
1) Whistler told little Melina a list of things she should do.
2) Little Melina thought Grosky was a bad man.
Pierre wrote:
Also regarding the kidnapped girl who thought she was Melina I think she was somewhat indoctrinated by Whistler into her plans. What I don't properly understand is why the fake Melina girl would know about Professor Layton and know he was a threat to the plan.
I can understand why Janice-Melina would know seeing as Janice was a friend of the professor's and therefore Janice-Melina had access to her memories and knowledge but Melina's spirit alone combined with the little girl could not possibly know of Professor Layton could she?
I can understand why Janice-Melina would know seeing as Janice was a friend of the professor's and therefore Janice-Melina had access to her memories and knowledge but Melina's spirit alone combined with the little girl could not possibly know of Professor Layton could she?
Maybe influence from Descole? Out of Descole, Whistler, and the little girl, Descole appears to have been the only one who has met Layton. Although he's very well-known, it's possible Whistler has not heard of Layton before the events of Eternal Diva.
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What I did find peculiar on the other hand, was how she found the kidnapping case relevant to the mystery of eternal life.
I think at the start, there was no link to it. However, when Emmy saw the picture of the missing girl in her house, se made the link. Either that or it's Layton's intuition? Remember that multiple girls had been kidnapped from London.
Anyway, as for me, I loved the movie. Sure, it had its problems (it tried to cram game-quality content into 90 minutes, meaning many undeveloped characters, for one, although that can be excused) but it's one of the best video game movies ever.
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Tomoshibi Amatsu wrote:
I just watched the movie and it was amazing. The puzzles were well thought out I thought, and since I haven't gotten the opportunity to check out specter's flute yet. This introduced me to Growley who I pretty much like more than Chemley.
Spoiler: the eternal diva ending
Not sure which translations you've seen, but I know them as Inspector Chelmey, Inspector Grosky and Mr. Whistler.
Not that it matters much, but I find it curious that you've written them down so differently.
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Tomoshibi Amatsu wrote:
So during the beginning in the present day when does this exactly take place? After Unwound Future?
I think the present day segment of the movie takes place around when the diabolical box takes place since Luke is still actively around Layton and mainly
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