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Author: | Nikuchan [ Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:00 pm ] |
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Can anyone tell me what happened at the end credits? Where the people talk during the credits. I wanna know what they said. And can anyone also tell me what really happened at the epilogue (after credits)? |
Author: | Croik [ Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:37 pm ] |
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I've only just met Shimon, but he's kind of an arrogant little shit, lol. Typical "you're all old and not worth my time" teenager. Also spotted a particular cameo: Spoiler: cameo |
Author: | Chips [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:40 pm ] |
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Croik wrote: I've only just met Shimon, but he's kind of an arrogant little shit, lol. Typical "you're all old and not worth my time" teenager. But he's a darling! *Shot* Croik wrote: Also spotted a particular cameo: Spoiler: cameo Aww. Once again, they got turned into backgrounds... A question: Spoiler: GK2 Returning character |
Author: | Jack Lamber [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:45 pm ] |
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I'm sorry if this has already been asked, but I don't want to check (for obvious reasons really :P).. but Spoiler: |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:59 pm ] |
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Shimon is basically a fanboy of Borumosu. He's pretty "I don't give a damn" most of the time but I'm wondering if he secretly has a soft side. I don't think De Killer mentions Engarde since he's in prison. And here's a hint: De Killer goes after people who betrayed him. |
Author: | rydus65 [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:14 am ] |
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I've got a question. Spoiler: Case 5 |
Author: | Jack Lamber [ Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:57 pm ] |
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AnsweringNOW wrote: Shimon is basically a fanboy of Borumosu. He's pretty "I don't give a damn" most of the time but I'm wondering if he secretly has a soft side. I don't think De Killer mentions Engarde since he's in prison. And here's a hint: De Killer goes after people who betrayed him. Yeah but, didn't De Killer say something in JFA about not doing anything else until the one who betrayed him was dead? That's why I assume that he is dead at this point, seeing as De Killer seems to be involved in other things now? |
Author: | Croik [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:12 am ] |
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I haven't seen THAT CHARACTER make mention of THAT OTHER CHARACTER but I know he shows up at least one more time before the end, so I'll let you know. Spoiler: "returning character" I'm moving kinda slowly through this case 'cause I'm doing most of my playing during lunch breaks at work, but I'm still going! Spoiler: case 5 |
Author: | Chips [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:43 pm ] |
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Croik wrote: I haven't seen THAT CHARACTER make mention of THAT OTHER CHARACTER but I know he shows up at least one more time before the end, so I'll let you know. Spoiler: "returning character" Aiyah, I thought that person would have a great comeback, I'm kinda disappointed . Still, thanks for the info Croik. |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:31 pm ] |
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Spoiler: FINAL BOSS SPOILERS!!!! |
Author: | Nose [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:45 am ] |
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Spoiler: minor case 5 cameo spoilers |
Author: | Croik [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:35 pm ] |
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Nose wrote: Spoiler: minor case 5 cameo spoilers Yes, you're right, he is. Also Moozilla is the best localization for Borunasu so far, I think we should make that official!! |
Author: | bignickdigger [ Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:15 pm ] |
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Nose wrote: Spoiler: minor case 5 cameo spoilers yea, he's in the costume AnsweringNOW wrote: Spoiler: FINAL BOSS SPOILERS!!!! Spoiler: first testimony rydus65 wrote: I've got a question. Spoiler: Case 5 from what I understand Spoiler: SS-5 or thats how I remember it at least |
Author: | Chips [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:55 am ] |
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^That isn't exactly one thing... but thanks. Croik wrote: --- Also Moozilla is the best localization for Borunasu so far, I think we should make that official!! Agreed. |
Author: | Croik [ Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:39 pm ] |
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Oh Logic Chess. I hate you but sometimes you amuse me. Like when my choices are: 1. "I'd like to hear what you have to say." 2. "YOU ARE A FAILURE OF A HUMAN BEING!!" Gee, I wonder which one will work! |
Author: | bignickdigger [ Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:30 pm ] |
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yeah I know what you mean, they could put more effort into it but I still like the concept a few changes and it would make a gerat persuasion system usable in other games too,one of the few ideas with some actual gameplay in constrast to the typical you have enough stat-you can convince that is often in RPGs the only other good example is the recent Human Revolution game but that's off topic... |
Author: | Croik [ Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:07 pm ] |
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It kind of reminds me of Hotel Dusk's interrogation sections, except with stupider options. I wish they hadn't called it "chess" either. Maybe this is getting really picky, but chess isn't just about your opponent's pieces, it's protecting your own pieces, too. Instead of just taking damage in the normal way, they should have had one of Edgeworth's pieces get taken or something. It's the same thing essentially, but I feel like it would at least justify the name. |
Author: | Gerkuman [ Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:38 pm ] |
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The chess theme does help us in that it means we can use punny chess names. So that's a plus :3 |
Author: | AnsweringNOW [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:29 am ] |
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Remember that Logic Chess is all in Edgeworth's head. When other people are watching, it's just him asking questions. That includes the opponent (I wonder how it would be like if Edgeworth went up against Manosuke Naitou...) sand besides that, I think that all of his opponents were playing on the defensive side. Spoiler: FINAL BOSS SPOILERS |
Author: | Croik [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:41 pm ] |
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AnsweringNOW wrote: Remember that Logic Chess is all in Edgeworth's head. When other people are watching, it's just him asking questions. That includes the opponent (I wonder how it would be like if Edgeworth went up against Manosuke Naitou...) sand besides that, I think that all of his opponents were playing on the defensive side. Well yeah, it wouldn't make an ACTUAL difference to anything, but they could have been playing with Monopoly money and it would have been the same thing. Asking questions and losing life when you screw up is the same thing Edgeworth always does; the chess metaphor is extremely flimsy. But phew, I finally beat the game!! I'll probably write up a review tonight or tomorrow. In the meantime, questions~ AnsweringNOW wrote: Spoiler: FINAL BOSS SPOILERS Spoiler: Case 5 Spoiler: End credits and afterscene Spoiler: Endgame speculation |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:16 pm ] |
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Spoiler: Re: Endgame speculation |
Author: | The Sandwich [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:10 pm ] |
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Does Payne make an appearance? |
Author: | Bolt Storm [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 10:14 pm ] |
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Yes, he's in case one in a small role. |
Author: | bignickdigger [ Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:02 pm ] |
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AnsweringNOW wrote: Remember that Logic Chess is all in Edgeworth's head. When other people are watching, it's just him asking questions. dunno why but this gave me the image of Edgeworth as a psycho living in his own dream world, shouting CHECKMATE everytime someone tells him what he needed to hear also reminds me of the AAI comic strip where he was sitting in an empty corner and investigating it and when Kay tried to pointed it out he shouted NOOK AND CRANNY |
Author: | Bad Player [ Wed Sep 14, 2011 6:02 pm ] |
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Spoiler: case 3 EDIT: Spoiler: case 3 |
Author: | Marche Tobaye [ Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:16 pm ] |
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Spoiler: |
Author: | Nose [ Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:51 am ] |
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Marche Tobaye wrote: Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | Croik [ Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:56 pm ] |
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Spoiler: Case 3 |
Author: | Pikachu [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:31 pm ] |
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I have Firstly, why is Kay back!? I mean, obviously Kay would be in the sequel of AAI, but I just want to know what she's doing back. Like, how her character was introduced in GK2 case 1, since I thought she sorta said goodbye at the end of AAI? Is she never returning home!? Spoiler: Pretty sure this isn't a spoiler but.. Also, how would you people compare this game to AAI? Better, worse? And the new characters all look... pretty eccentric, to say the least. Are they great characters, annoying, poorly developed...? I know that when it comes to characters, everyone's opinions are different, but I just want to have some people's take on these new characters. Especially some of the main characters, such as Yumihiko (who is apparently annoying and stupid..? But does he develop or something during the Grand Turnabout?), the female judge lady, and Shigaraki. Spoiler: Kind of a spoiler? Also, why do so many Japanese sites and stuff have all these Kay/Yumihiko fanart and stuff? Is there dialogue in the game that instigated the support for this pairing or do people just think they look cute together or something? Their mouth shapes are similar, that's all I can see... Spoiler: GK2 Case 4.. I think. How big are Franziska's and Lang's roles in GK2? Okay, sorry for all the random questions (and they're all pretty useless too..) but I've been wondering about all this for quite a while... |
Author: | Croik [ Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:22 pm ] |
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Pikachu wrote: I have Firstly, why is Kay back!? I mean, obviously Kay would be in the sequel of AAI, but I just want to know what she's doing back. Like, how her character was introduced in GK2 case 1, since I thought she sorta said goodbye at the end of AAI? Is she never returning home!? She just...is? She shows up in case 1 because she hears about the goings on, still on her "I'll be Yatagarasu" kick. No mention of home. Pikachu wrote: Spoiler: Pretty sure this isn't a spoiler but.. Her role is pretty much exactly the same as in the last game. Pikachu wrote: Also, how would you people compare this game to AAI? Better, worse? And the new characters all look... pretty eccentric, to say the least. Are they great characters, annoying, poorly developed...? I know that when it comes to characters, everyone's opinions are different, but I just want to have some people's take on these new characters. Especially some of the main characters, such as Yumihiko (who is apparently annoying and stupid..? But does he develop or something during the Grand Turnabout?), the female judge lady, and Shigaraki. It's hard for me to judge the games side by side, because I found all the cases to be kind of a mixed bag. There isn't really a case in AAI2 that I really got into or am super eager to play again. They felt long and in some places kind of disconnected to me, like they're trying to play to drama, but Edgeworth as a protagonist is so unflappable it's hard to get any true sense of urgency out of them. They spend a lot of time on Edgeworth learning what it really means to be a prosecutor when they've already gone over that in earlier games, and what he really should be worried about is what it means to be a prosecutor in the most corrupted legal system in the world, seriously! As for the characters, in general I wasn't impressed with most of them. I found Mikagami and Yumihiko to be poor rivals; the game needs them to be dumb, but sometimes they're just SO dumb it makes you wonder how anything gets done in the city ever. Yumihiko develops somewhat by the end, I did like him more at the end, I think it'd be interesting to see him "all grown up." Mikagami on the other hand I never warmed up to. Most of the side characters suffer the same problem as in the first game, where they don't get enough focus on them to make a real impact. One in particular is hugely important to the plot but I can't even remember if he had a name...? But they're likable enough. My favorites are Naitou, Souta, and Ryouken. Shigaraki was also neat but very underutilized. Pikachu wrote: Spoiler: Kind of a spoiler? 3, and yes. Pikachu wrote: Also, why do so many Japanese sites and stuff have all these Kay/Yumihiko fanart and stuff? Is there dialogue in the game that instigated the support for this pairing or do people just think they look cute together or something? Their mouth shapes are similar, that's all I can see... I can't think of anything in particular, short of the fact that he's the rival (sort of?) and Kay stands with Edgeworth opposed to him. They don't really share any special moment. But they are the same age...?? And he seems to be popular, so why not? Pikachu wrote: Spoiler: GK2 Case 4.. I think. Spoiler: Case 5 Pikachu wrote: How big are Franziska's and Lang's roles in GK2? Franziska's is fairly minor. She shows up in two cases and is pretty much there just to get things done when Edgeworth isn't able to. Lang's significance in his case is pretty major and we get to learn a lot more about him, but I wish that he had been able to actually accomplish more. Phew! I really should just write up a proper review. |
Author: | Pikachu [ Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:49 pm ] |
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Thanks for answering all those questions! Pretty much what I expected, but still I hoped.. Yeah, I really didn't expect much from GK2 when I found out they were going down the 'Edgeworth discovering the meaning of being a prosecutor' road AGAIN. Croik wrote: and what he really should be worried about is what it means to be a prosecutor in the most corrupted legal system in the world, seriously! Ahahahaha XD Yes, he really should. I'd definitely read the review if you write it. I'm still obsessing over GK2, despite the fact that I don't feel very impressed by what I've heard about it so far.. |
Author: | bignickdigger [ Sat Sep 24, 2011 10:00 am ] |
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Croik wrote: It's hard for me to judge the games side by side, because I found all the cases to be kind of a mixed bag. There isn't really a case in AAI2 that I really got into or am super eager to play again. They felt long and in some places kind of disconnected to me, like they're trying to play to drama, but Edgeworth as a protagonist is so unflappable it's hard to get any true sense of urgency out of them. They spend a lot of time on Edgeworth learning what it really means to be a prosecutor when they've already gone over that in earlier games, and what he really should be worried about is what it means to be a prosecutor in the most corrupted legal system in the world, seriously! As for the characters, in general I wasn't impressed with most of them. I found Mikagami and Yumihiko to be poor rivals; the game needs them to be dumb, but sometimes they're just SO dumb it makes you wonder how anything gets done in the city ever. Yumihiko develops somewhat by the end, I did like him more at the end, I think it'd be interesting to see him "all grown up." Mikagami on the other hand I never warmed up to. Most of the side characters suffer the same problem as in the first game, where they don't get enough focus on them to make a real impact. One in particular is hugely important to the plot but I can't even remember if he had a name...? But they're likable enough. My favorites are Naitou, Souta, and Ryouken. Shigaraki was also neat but very underutilized. this exactly - Naito, Souta, Shigaraki and Ryouken were the best for me too, they're like Badd/Yew/Lang/Kay (okay, YMMV on the last one) being the most likable from AAI. Spoiler: and Mikagami was the worst major new character for sure my least favorite part was funnily enough the third case and the whole IS-7(am I the only one who thinks it should have been IS-5?) with Gregory,I dunno, I don't like retconning much and the whole case was too ...fruity and again, just like in AAI,imo the fourth case was better than the fifth(but by a smaller margin now,it did kind of improve), so the 4th was my favorite probably and on the whole, AAI2's first case was the best addition to the series as a whole,because its the best first case (better than AJ's imo) |
Author: | dancingpoppies [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:41 am ] |
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Sorry, can I ask if Shih-na is ever mentioned in the game? |
Author: | Croik [ Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:41 pm ] |
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dancingpoppies wrote: Sorry, can I ask if Shih-na is ever mentioned in the game? Nope, not that I recall. Underutilized = I wish Shigaraki had had more to do. He was really important in case 3, and they were positioning him to be an important character and friend to Edgeworth, but in cases 4 and 5 he just kind of hung around and didn't contribute much. |
Author: | Wooster [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:44 am ] |
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Croik wrote: dancingpoppies wrote: Sorry, can I ask if Shih-na is ever mentioned in the game? Nope, not that I recall. Underutilized = I wish Shigaraki had had more to do. He was really important in case 3, and they were positioning him to be an important character and friend to Edgeworth, but in cases 4 and 5 he just kind of hung around and didn't contribute much. So Shigaraki's like GS3's Mia Fey? Built up to be important, but ultimately a major let down. |
Author: | Croik [ Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:55 am ] |
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Wooster wrote: Croik wrote: Underutilized = I wish Shigaraki had had more to do. He was really important in case 3, and they were positioning him to be an important character and friend to Edgeworth, but in cases 4 and 5 he just kind of hung around and didn't contribute much. So Shigaraki's like GS3's Mia Fey? Built up to be important, but ultimately a major let down. I wouldn't say a "major" letdown, as Shigaraki was fun and likeable (and I don't like GS3's Mia :P) but I was disappointed that by case 5 he was demoted to making passes at Franziska while the important stuff went on elsewhere. Though...I have to admit I was kind of pissed about his lawyering abilities. Spoiler: case 5 |
Author: | bignickdigger [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:46 pm ] |
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Croik wrote: dancingpoppies wrote: Sorry, can I ask if Shih-na is ever mentioned in the game? Nope, not that I recall. if it's any consolation, her perfume is in case 4 Croik wrote: Underutilized = I wish Shigaraki had had more to do. He was really important in case 3, and they were positioning him to be an important character and friend to Edgeworth, but in cases 4 and 5 he just kind of hung around and didn't contribute much. oh I see, thanks Croik wrote: Spoiler: case 5 I know what you mean, I mean, sure it wouldnt work in ace attorney, but I wish someone made a more realistic attorney game, preferably where you wont have to investage too(because lawyers don't do that), more grimdark and gray and gray morality kind of like the trials in The Wire with graphics (in terms of facial features when talking) like in Human Revolutions ..yeah well I can keep dreaming oh yes and effective detectives too(by the way, in real life, it is extremely easy to get even an innocent man to confess he's guilty; yes, basically a typical police investigator is better at false confessions than Von Karma himself) |
Author: | dancingpoppies [ Fri Sep 30, 2011 2:24 pm ] |
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bignickdigger wrote: Croik wrote: dancingpoppies wrote: Sorry, can I ask if Shih-na is ever mentioned in the game? Nope, not that I recall. if it's any consolation, her perfume is in case 4 Oh thanks for answering my question! I was kinda hoping that there would be backstory about Lang and Shih-Na! Oh well, too bad |
Author: | NinjaMonkey [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:35 pm ] |
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Which previously seen characters appear in this game, with the exception of Edgeworth, Gumshoe, Kay, Franziska and Shi-Long Lang (as no doubt he'll crop up at some point)? |
Author: | Cronos [ Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:57 am ] |
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NinjaMonkey wrote: Which previously seen characters appear in this game, with the exception of Edgeworth, Gumshoe, Kay, Franziska and Shi-Long Lang (as no doubt he'll crop up at some point)? The previously seen characters in AAI2 are: Spoiler: I believe that's all of them, although there may be some I missed. |
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