Someone on gamefaqs said that it's Turnabout to the Future

Oh, wow, a letter from Mayoi, and Hami-chan and Mitsurugi actually doing stuff! And a robot rebellion! Definitely didn't expect the latter...

The returnt of... BLACK PSYCHO LOCKS?!

Okay, so we have a weird combination of GS1-4, GS1-5, GS2-4 in terms of case structure I couldn't help but think 'oh, hey, they did this in that case', and 'oh, that's from that case'. It works as a bit of fanservice, but despite a great portrayal of Odoroki, I don't see it as one of the stronger cases of the game...

Could you talk at all about what the letter is about?

Nothing very interesting. She talks a bit about the bombing case and asks whether Nick's seen the Steel Samurai thingies she sent him. The things you'd ask when a friend was involved in such a case :P

If you don't mind me asking, what makes Apollo's portrayal great in this case?He doesn't seem to have gotten that much attention since the second half of case 4, so I'm pretty curious as to what the developers have in store for him.

By the way, that picture is awesome. I think anyone would confess after seeing those three fingers pointed at their direction!

Hey, a backstory for Odoroki! Something to explain his motivations! A private life! And, more important, we see Odoroki acting on his own, for realistic reasons (and not just because of Aoi). Much better than I-am-practically-a-puppet-to-tell-Naruhodo's-story GS4 Odoroki

Victim: Aoi Daichi (Odoroki's friend) in the present, Kiduki Mari (Kokone's mother) in the past.
Murderer (both): International Spy "Phantom" (mostly posing as Detective Ban)

Man, thank you. I really thought the culprit was either Athena, Simon or Fulbright. The suspense was killing me. Haha, but I'll still play it and I'm sure I'll enjoy it! :)

Did they really... make Fullbright the culprit? That's pretty cool, actually

So is Simon Blackquill actually innocent of his earlier charges? Or does he still remain villainous to the end? If he the prosecutor of the final case, or is Edgeworth?

Do all three attorneys get equal importance, stake, value, and moment to shine? Please elaborate.

He's innocent. And Blackquill takes over from Edgeworth in the last part.

I didn't count acting time, but they all have their moments during this last trial. Phoenix as the leader, Athena as the focal point of the case, and Apollo acting for both his friend, as his own conscience

A pic of Black Psychos Locks of Athena. (Escuse me for my english, I'm belgian).

Athena with those black locks... How can they be broken?

OK, if Phoenix is the main attorney, Athena's the focal point and Apollo's doing something else, who will be his co-council?

Is it the green robot that testifies in the broken courtroom the same one that Kaguya is seen with in Case 4? Because I'm pretty sure Kaguya is speaking through the robot as the nametag says "Kaguya" when the robot is speaking.

Was the Fulbright that worked with the crew in previous cases the real Fulbright or was it Phantom who killed him?

I was not expecting Fulbright to take off his mask and reveal Hoshinari! I thought Phantom was actually Hoshinari for a second. Then he transformed into Ichiro and I wondered what mask he was going to reveal next. Of course, I didn't expect the next mask to be Phoenix himself. Makes me wonder how Phoenix feels when he sees himself.

And the breakdown...Pretty epic.

It is. For reasons in the story, Kaguya sends the robot to speak for her as she is otherwise unable to see Nick in person.

I'd like to know that myself. Maybe they left that up to the player to decide, since Fulbright did seem to get a bit wackier around the time of the fourth case, at least to me.

I thought he wasn't actually Phantom, but a subordinate who Phantom had doing his bidding. And that the real Phantom had sniped him at the end of his breakdown.


As for the breakdown itself, it's probably my favorite In the whole series. It's as outrageous as it is ridiculous. From his objection (and with Phoenix's voice, as well!), all those masks, and not even getting to see his real identity at the end... just amazing.

A part of me is a lil bit disappointed that we didn't get to see the Phantom's face but on the other side it adds mystery to the story. At first i thought that the whole mask after mask was a little to much..but hey! All in all it was a great breakdown.

I'm thinking that after disguising himself with so many masks, he had lost his true identity. So even if we did see his face, it's unknown if it's his true face or if it's just another mask. I liked the fact we never see Phantom's face so it adds more intrigue to his character.

I've read somewhere that Fulbright died a year before the present case (don't know which case they're talking about but I'm assuming they meant 5-2).

And can anyone translate to what happened with everyone in the credits?

It was always Phantom. The real Ban Gouzou had been dead, and the Phantom had taken over his identity.

The Phantom didn't have his 'own' identity, so that's why you never see his true face.

I'm in the courtroom right as Fulbright's called to the stand (after you find out he's the true culprit) so it looks like this is the final day. If so, I think it would have been better to have C4+C5 as one large final case. Not that it would make a difference in play length obviously, but there wasn't really a need for Case 4 to end. Was the "not guilty" verdict for Hoshinari the reason perhaps? Still seems strange though because the case isn't technically solved.

Anyways, looks like I'm almost at the end, so I shall keep playing....

I'm going to assume that case 4 is figuring out how Daichi Aoi was killed and case 5 is with Mari Kizuki, right? And why did they hold the trial at the bombed courtroom?

Did Edgeworth say they found Fulbright's corpse and discovered he had died a year before one of the present cases? Just to make sure if Fulbright died of natural means or if he was murdered by Phantom.

And what was Phantom rambling on about before his breakdown?

Where can I find Odeko-kun's backstory?

Can someone clarify the phantom's motive for me re: Mari? I can't remember exactly why he set out to kill her, and why he bombed the HAT-1 launch in the first place...I was more focused on figuring out the order of events, so it appears I missed some details

That. Was. Some. Breakdown. Oh, man... This game really went all out. Stuff seems to be left hanging about the spy's background though.

And can someone help me out? When Edgeworth arrives with the news that the real Fulbright is actually dead, he mentions a mysterious dead body (or something like 謎の死体) found a year ago. Was anything about this mentioned earlier? Perhaps I simply forgot, but when Edgeworth said this, I got confused and wasn't sure if this was referenced earlier. Or did I completely misread the text altogether...?

Edit: Never mind, I think I've got it.

Good game overall. I enjoyed pretty much everything and I'm looking forward to GS6 for sure... But I have some Objection!s... or suggestions rather. I hope they allow us more freedom during investigations. Let us examine every area. It was such a waste because every area looked so interesting. Especially 九尾村. Playing the game, I couldn't help but feel like this was not quite a GS game and this is probably why.
The developers seemed to think it was a pain, but I enjoyed having to navigate around by myself. I would not mind going back to the original format of having to go from point A to point B to get to point C or D. And if they include the note/memo, you really shouldn't get stuck at all. Like I mentioned somewhere else, aside from if you pick up the game after not playing it for a while, you don't need it at all in this game since you're forcefully taken almost everywhere.

Like I said, overall I think the game is great, but the investigation section was quite disappointing to me.

About this quote from the Famitsu interview with Mr. Eshiro. What was this about anyways...? I read it as them saying the message you get from presenting is different for each evidence. However, you still get the "this is unimportant" type dialog out of certain evidence.




And did Pearl foreshadow Maya's return during the credits...? Hmm...

Edit: Also noticed we don't hear from Yugami's sister in the credits.

I agree that the pacing of this and case 4 was really odd. It definitely felt like one big case, and while that might have been what they were going for on purpose, it was strange to have the 'final' case be one investigation and one day of trial (even if it was a pretty long day).

Phantom was not the most interesting of final foes, but I will admit I didn't see Fulbright being the culprit at all until they pointed out the escape route used. I did enjoy getting to Perceive one last time, though.

Poor Pearl - she was doing so well as assistant up until the trial, and then she went and vanished for the whole time. I was hoping she'd stand in court for once. Really none of the returning characters besides Phoenix/Apollo were used that well.

Regarding Pearl, that's kind of the issue with returning characters, isn't it? Everyone wants one character or another to come back, but unless they're put to good use or at least featured properly for the whole case, it's rather pointless and disappointing as shown with Pearl. I know Pearl served a purpose in delivering Maya's letter and explaining the black Psyche-Locks, but I'd have thought she would've at least shown up earlier in the game instead of just half a case.


I have the same issue with Klavier, but that's for another thread.

I don't remember the motive anymore, but I think it was spy-stuff. The phantom had to bomb HAT-1, because it carried the 'Future' capsule with the moonrock (=evidence of him). The same reason he attacked the center in the present

In his breakdown, you can see him flipping through various masks. Does that mean that the phantom pretended to be all those people at certain points? Or was it just for that breakdown?

Nah, I think that it was trying to show the Phantoms identity crisis, that he didn't know who he was through the usage of the old characters. I'm pretty certain he never was any of them (exept bobby)

What happened to all the characters in the credits?

Yeah, it was a bit strange. But I don't know why, I really enjoyed the last case. First part was full of emotions, because of the whole "you have to save both Athena and Blackquill". Then last part was a total mindfuck xD I found it epic yet at the same time a bit bizarre.

I never really suspect Fulbright, it was a character I really liked, I thought "they've finally done a good replacement for Gumshoe" (I like Gumshoe but I also prefer to see new characters). But the more I saw him, the more I was unsure. And when it was discovered that he was the Phantom, I nearly cried xD But oh well, he was a good villain.

And I really like that final cutscene, not what you expect from an AA game xD, but it was beautiful to see them all happy.

Overrall I think this AA is really good. Love the new characters.

Just finished the game! It was awesome! (Like all Gyakuten games.)

But wow I say. Ban. I was totally shocked. During the whole 5th case I was thinking; who is it? I couldn't see anyone fitting. First I presented Kaku Hozumi (first defendant), then Yuugami's (Blakcquill's) sister (yeah yeah, I know, stupid) and it wasn't before I actually considered Ban that it hit me... Hard. Well played Capcom, I say. You totally got me.

All in all I really enjoyed the last case. It was special, which last cases are supposed to be. Many twists and turns, and special things happening. Yeah, really the highlight of the game.

He had to kill her because she was a threat to revealing his identity. Blackquill went to her with a voice recording with him, which while not being so good as to track a specific person, you could find out other things. Like that he didn't have any feelings...

And bombing the HAT-1 was to get rid of the moon stone with his blood on it. Yeah, he bombed a spacecraft. To get rid of a stone. Biggest overreaction ever.