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Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:23 am ] |
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote: Spoiler: Trial Latter Holy cow in a bun. Spoiler: Quote: Spoiler: First the Star Trek alignment and now this? Capcom, what is it with you and subliminal messaging?? In the end, I'm still disappointed regarding my Japanese-Italian fusion idea, but what they have localized in this case is impressive. |
Author: | FenrirDarkWolf [ Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:28 am ] |
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: FenrirDarkWolf wrote: Spoiler: Trial Latter Holy cow in a bun. Spoiler: Quote: Spoiler: First the Star Trek alignment and now this? Capcom, what is it with you and subliminal messaging?? In the end, I'm still disappointed regarding my Japanese-Italian fusion idea, but what they have localized in this case is impressive. Spoiler: Also this case gives me the urge to perform rakugo. |
Author: | Turnabout_Lawman [ Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:48 am ] |
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Okay that case and breakdown was fantastic. I got a real "Recipe for Turnabout" vibe in that it didn't really have to do with the main story and was a bit of a fun breather in-between the climax. Spoiler: |
Author: | FenrirDarkWolf [ Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:56 am ] |
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Turnabout_Lawman wrote: Okay that case and breakdown was fantastic. I got a real "Recipe for Turnabout" vibe in that it didn't really have to do with the main story and was a bit of a fun breather in-between the climax. Spoiler: Spoiler: I felt like Athena and Nahyuta bounced off each other really well, and I liked the sort of way they treated each other. It helped that Nahyuta was as underprepared as she was. |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:47 pm ] |
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I haven't finished the case yet, but Spoiler: |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:56 pm ] |
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^ Spoiler: |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:56 am ] |
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This case was so much fun! Spoiler: Case 4 stuff and a little of the AA Manga |
Author: | FenrirDarkWolf [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:59 am ] |
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SuperAj3 wrote: This case was so much fun! Spoiler: Case 4 stuff and a little of the AA Manga Spoiler: |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:29 am ] |
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FenrirDarkWolf wrote: SuperAj3 wrote: This case was so much fun! Spoiler: Case 4 stuff and a little of the AA Manga Spoiler: Probably not. Spoiler: |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:59 am ] |
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Spoiler: response |
Author: | Going for Miles [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:25 am ] |
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Spoiler: |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:50 pm ] |
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Quote: First of all, I don't get why they called the hamburgers all those strange names. I know, right? It's obviously pizza and spaghetti they were serving... and chocolate-filled donut holes. Quote: and did they just admit the existance of alcohol straight-out! xD Well, dang. Now Phoenix actually has a defense about his grape juice bottles. This is an outrage. So, uh, can anyone share with me how Spoiler: |
Author: | tiger_festival [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:21 pm ] |
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: So, uh, can anyone share with me how Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:59 pm ] |
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sumguy28 wrote: Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: So, uh, can anyone share with me how Spoiler: Spoiler: Damn, they did translate everything. Spoiler: So I guess it works out in the end, but it feels... less in a way. |
Author: | SuperAj3 [ Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:26 am ] |
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Spoiler: response and question |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:31 am ] |
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SuperAj3 wrote: Spoiler: response and question It's the same. |
Author: | Jean Descole [ Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:07 am ] |
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Not bad for a short case. Spoiler: culprit Spoiler: co-counsel Spoiler: Defense Spoiler: Prosecution And this is random, but did they have to go with so many awkward shots? You know, first you see the co-counsel all shocked and hunched over, then in the next shot, they're standing up again without having moved to that position. |
Author: | mujie [ Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:15 am ] |
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Spoiler: Sake Contradiction Spoiler: Prosecution Taunts Also, the full Time Soba story is online: http://jei-jnn.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/s ... -time.html |
Author: | Going for Miles [ Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:32 pm ] |
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mujie wrote: Also, the full Time Soba story is online: http://jei-jnn.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/s ... -time.html Nice! I like the laconic, matter-of-factly last sentence. |
Author: | linkenski [ Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:07 pm ] |
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Just started this. I see the localization team threw their hands in the air and said "ah, screw it! You win, capcom Japan!". But it's not all bad. All these people from the "Land of Japan"are grounded by the fact that Blackquill is also a japanese-liking fella, and for what it's worth, now I want to know more about Rakugo comedy! Also, have they stated on any blog who was responsible for this case's writing? The banter is seriously good and the flow is excellent. I love how frequently new witnesses appear, how Blackquill is butted around and how lively the conversations are. There is a point where he goes "do you really expect me to remember all minute details?" And I was like "thank you!" the characters feel really human and stuff, I like it. It may be weird to have after case 3 (though I think it has merit thematically or at least in terms of cast closure) but I'm quite liking after how slow case 3 was that this peps it up. And like case 2 I love how they tale a "simple is good" approach. I love me some cases in every AA that's simply good fun and don't need to be more than that. |
Author: | Ash [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:11 am ] |
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linkenski wrote: Also, have they stated on any blog who was responsible for this case's writing? The banter is seriously good and the flow is excellent. I love how frequently new witnesses appear, how Blackquill is butted around and how lively the conversations are. There is a point where he goes "do you really expect me to remember all minute details?" And I was like "thank you!" the characters feel really human and stuff, I like it. In the interview in the Official Visual Book, Yamazaki talks about how the scenario writer clinched the deal for that episode through an excellent rakugo-style joke, so that rules Yamazaki himself out. Leaves only Eguchi (worked on Mega Man Battle Network as writer/planner) and Fukuda (worked as writer on AA5). |
Author: | linkenski [ Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:04 am ] |
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Even Nahyuta's conversations have more of a spark to them. He even says "let it all go and look forward instead!" Or something to that effect. I know it's silly, but when he constantly repeats the exact phrase "let go and move on" in the remainder of the game it loses its meaning but switching up the wording makes it feel more like a human being talking. I wish they could let this guy write a fair bit of dialogue in every case, because he's great, and case 2 and 3 were held back by a sense of stale progression throughout their trials I thought. |
Author: | scarlet-flowers [ Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:20 am ] |
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I came into this case thinking I'd hate it but I ended up loving it so much. Spoiler: |
Author: | Danchat [ Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:34 am ] |
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Quote: Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | linkenski [ Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:18 pm ] |
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Spoiler: Blackquill The characters really shine in this case, all of them, even Nahyuta (for the first time almost). They even use his "Let go and move on" in a way so it doesn't feel so self-indulgent. They openly joke with it when he starts repeating it until Athena interrupts him and yells "never!". For what it's worth I also don't think this case is irrelevant to the plot for the same reason I don't think the scene with Betsy talking to her colleague is unimportant in Taxi Driver. Spoiler: Nahyuta EDIT: Beat the case. While 3 had more going for it in terms of developing a central arc and the new setting, this is my favorite case story and trial segment in the game. Spoiler: Theme EDITEDIT: Spoiler: On second thought |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:20 pm ] |
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Danchat wrote: Quote: Spoiler: Spoiler: Spoiler: |
Author: | linkenski [ Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:23 pm ] |
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I second that. The most definitive step-up with this game coming from DD is how every case they bring up "what would the motive be then?" and every case has a confession at the end and not a last minute "oh his motive was this" in the post-trial wrap-up. I'm very happy with that. But that said, like I posted before, I didn't think the motive was really too good in this case but I appreciate it wasn't executed as if they didn't even care about it. Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: sumguy28 wrote: Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: So, uh, can anyone share with me how Spoiler: Spoiler: Damn, they did translate everything. Spoiler: So I guess it works out in the end, but it feels... less in a way. Well, for what it's worth I still laughed at the punchline even though Blackquill only refered to it. |
Author: | Pierre [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:54 pm ] |
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Mrrrgrrrgrrr I've not finished it yet but the way it's going...I think this might be....the worst case in this game....maybe several games. I'll reserve judgement until I've fully finished it. |
Author: | linkenski [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:52 pm ] |
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I feel it depends on whether you're on the "like" side of the love/hate relationship most have with Athena (and maybe BQ or just DD characters in general). I wouldn't have liked the case by the end if I didn't already like the first parts of it, so if that's your dilemma I don't think you should count on it redeeming itself :P |
Author: | Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:24 pm ] |
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote: sumguy28 wrote: Spoiler: Damn, they did translate everything. Spoiler: So I guess it works out in the end, but it feels... less in a way. I figure I should explain what I mean, as well as offer a few notes about the Japanese. Spoiler: |
Author: | luck [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:36 pm ] |
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linkenski wrote: I feel it depends on whether you're on the "like" side of the love/hate relationship most have with Athena (and maybe BQ or just DD characters in general). I wouldn't have liked the case by the end if I didn't already like the first parts of it, so if that's your dilemma I don't think you should count on it redeeming itself :P I think it's more about whether you like the break from the atmosphere of the rest of the game or not. Personally, I found myself wondering why I should care about any of that at first (although it got better.) Spoiler: The whole case |
Author: | Pierre [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:27 pm ] |
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Right ok I ground through it and can honestly say it's the worst case in the game. I've not played the 5th case or DLC case yet...but I'm pretty confident in that assertion. Hell it might be worse than anything in the last 3 games. Knowing my stance on know that there's very little positive I have to say about it here...however most of my problems are technicalish rather than to do with the writing. Here we go. Spoiler: The whole Case Real dampener on what was shaping up to be the best AA game yet for me. We'll see if 5 can pull that back. |
Author: | Thunder84 [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:57 pm ] |
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Pierre wrote: Right ok I ground through it and can honestly say it's the worst case in the game. I've not played the 5th case or DLC case yet...but I'm pretty confident in that assertion. Hell it might be worse than anything in the last 3 games. Knowing my stance on know that there's very little positive I have to say about it here...however most of my problems are technicalish rather than to do with the writing. Here we go. Spoiler: The whole Case Spoiler: |
Author: | D.A. McCoy [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:37 pm ] |
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One question I had: When Athena slams the desk, often she seems to slam it twice, very quickly. Is she supposed to do this or is my game glitching out? I'm (I think) almost done with part 1, and I'm really divided about the case. I'll wait and discuss it after I beat it, but basically I feel like its a fun case and isn't bad by any means but it feels a little out of place to me after the last two cases seemed more "important" to the overall plot. I'm usually one for filler cases but I would have preferred a case that was longer (had investigation segments) and had the whole Japanifornia cast (Apollo, Trucy, Ema) in it. The game was kind of marketed as a "split" game with half taking place in Kurain and half taking place in Japanifornia, but it still seems like the game is skewed towards Phoenix in terms of gametime. Hopefully case 5 will have a lot of Apollo and his gang in it. Having said that, I still like the case a lot. It just isn't as "big" as I'd prefer it to be. |
Author: | Pierre [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:54 pm ] |
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D.A. McCoy wrote: One question I had: When Athena slams the desk, often she seems to slam it twice, very quickly. Is she supposed to do this or is my game glitching out? I'm (I think) almost done with part 1, and I'm really divided about the case. I'll wait and discuss it after I beat it, but basically I feel like its a fun case and isn't bad by any means but it feels a little out of place to me after the last two cases seemed more "important" to the overall plot. I'm usually one for filler cases but I would have preferred a case that was longer (had investigation segments) and had the whole Japanifornia cast (Apollo, Trucy, Ema) in it. The game was kind of marketed as a "split" game with half taking place in Kurain and half taking place in Japanifornia, but it still seems like the game is skewed towards Phoenix in terms of gametime. Hopefully case 5 will have a lot of Apollo and his gang in it. Having said that, I still like the case a lot. It just isn't as "big" as I'd prefer it to be. Haha my friend thinks she picked that double-desk slam from Simon. Personally I like some of the little new motions she got. |
Author: | linkenski [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:45 pm ] |
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She's been double-slamming since DD. She does it quite more often in this game though. |
Author: | MBr [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:31 pm ] |
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I recall her doing the multiple slam once in DD. If you press one of O'Connor's statements, she'll slam the desk multiple times while shouting "Hold it!" repeatedly. Spoiler: AA6 Spoilers |
Author: | Danchat [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 4:01 am ] |
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Pierre wrote: Right ok I ground through it and can honestly say it's the worst case in the game. I've not played the 5th case or DLC case yet...but I'm pretty confident in that assertion. Hell it might be worse than anything in the last 3 games. Knowing my stance on know that there's very little positive I have to say about it here...however most of my problems are technicalish rather than to do with the writing. Here we go. Spoiler: The whole Case Real dampener on what was shaping up to be the best AA game yet for me. We'll see if 5 can pull that back. I agree with most everything in your evaluation of case 4. Spoiler: |
Author: | Bad Player [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:26 am ] |
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Pierre wrote: Spoiler: Okay, now this I can't let slide. Spoiler: |
Author: | luck [ Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:58 am ] |
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MBr wrote: I recall her doing the multiple slam once in DD. If you press one of O'Connor's statements, she'll slam the desk multiple times while shouting "Hold it!" repeatedly. Spoiler: AA6 Spoilers Spoiler: All of AA6 cases, including the last one |
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