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Author:  Going for Miles [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:33 pm ]
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Jean Descole wrote:
Half-caff, then? :godot:


I object!

Quote:
We're having this discussion again because I thought of number 2 instead. :sillytrucy:

And here I was thinking discussing Godot's bladder was bad enough.

Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:36 pm ]
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Going for Miles wrote:
And here I was thinking discussing Godot's bladder was bad enough.

Poor Godot.

Author:  Going for Miles [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:37 pm ]
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Pour poor Godot a cup of coffee.

Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:42 pm ]
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I will pour poor Godot a cup of coffee. Or five.

Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:02 pm ]
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That is cruel and unusual. The man will burst.
Wait, is that why he always picks dark pants...

Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:05 pm ]
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Ah, he's a strong guy! He can handle it! But wellll, I won't pour him all five cups in a row, then.

Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:07 pm ]
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I thought I was imagining it, but he does wear black pants. Oh dear.

Author:  Going for Miles [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:54 pm ]
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How cool as fuck L'Belle's theme song is. I had completely forgotten about it.

Author:  Detective Gustav [ Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:53 am ]
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I didn't notice the pun in Luke Atmey's name either!

Author:  CrayonKiddo [ Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:57 pm ]
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The Gatewater Hotel bellboy looks like Fox Mulder.

Author:  Apollo4Justice [ Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:50 pm ]
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That Mia isn't pronounced the same way as Maya, which is what I've done from the beginning of AA to about mid-way of Justice for All.

Author:  Southern Corn [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:31 am ]
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Payne's objection.

Tbh,I didn't even remember it at first,but then in JfA it caught me by surprise. It's freaking hilarious.

Author:  Apollo4Justice [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:28 pm ]
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Southern Corn wrote:
Payne's objection.

Tbh,I didn't even remember it at first,but then in JfA it caught me by surprise. It's freaking hilarious.

It only played once or twice in the first game, now that I think about it.

Author:  Southern Corn [ Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:39 pm ]
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Thrice maybe,but only counting optional dialogue.

Author:  CrayonKiddo [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:17 am ]
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When you realize how stupid von Karma's motive for murdering Edgeworth's father was.

Author:  Southern Corn [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:22 am ]
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Over a penalty. That's messed up,man. That's messed up. But I feel that that just puts him higher on my villains list,because him extracting revenge on Edgworth was so convoluted-just because his perfect record was broken. Truly paints him as a great villain.

Author:  Going for Miles [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:22 am ]
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He was in a state of absolutely pissed off (even more so from randomly getting shot by an elevator) and in that state was presented with a weapon and a perfect opportunity? Irrational, maybe, but I wouldn't say "stupid", it was in the heat of the moment. Had he carefully laid out a plan to kill him for the sake of his perfect record... that would have been stupid.

Author:  Southern Corn [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:25 am ]
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Whoa,we posted at the same time! 0-0

But yeah,this is also my reasoning as to Kristoph's motive. Since Zak denied him a case that would've made him famous and instead gave it to resident bluffer Phoenix Wright,he was so mad that he used the evidence he had forged to implicate Wright instead. And went to insane measures in terms of hiding himself,forging the evidence,and killing Zak seven years later. Even more insane in the membrane,man.

Author:  CrayonKiddo [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:36 pm ]
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Well, when I saw Manfred slamming his head against the wall and screaming about having a single penalty and how it ruined his WHOLE LIFE, I was like "seriously?". I just couldn't believe someone could be so obsessed with his work. And I understand he was pissed and then got shot, but I still think of his motive as simply ridiculous. But I also understand someone can view the whole thing from different sides and I respect that.

Author:  luck [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:40 pm ]
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But the whole point of Von Karma is that he's obsessed with perfection to the point of madness. It wasn't supposed to be a sane motive.

Author:  Aeliren [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:26 am ]
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The whole "A lawyer forces their biggest smiles in the worst of times" thing started chronologically with Diego Armando, who first said "A lawyer is someone who smiles no matter how bad it gets" to Mia in her first trial. Mia passed it on to Phoenix, who passed it on to Apollo and Athena.

Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:23 am ]
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Now I kinda wonder if Grossberg taught it to Diego, haha.

Author:  Southern Corn [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:47 am ]
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'Even when my hemorhoidds are a-flaring,I always put a smile on my face. You too must remember this,m'boy.'

'Get away from me,old man.'

Author:  Going for Miles [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:39 am ]
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When percieving, I always let the testimony go over and over while kinda scanning the witness' body for tics. Find nothing? Hear it again. Wait for the suspicious part to come, then hoover around. In SoJ I realized that the tics don't stop if you stop the testimony itself. Pausing on the bit I thought suspicious and then scan for tics proved way more effective... Groundbreaking.

Author:  luck [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:47 am ]
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Edgeworth's "powerful connections" are actually pretty suspicious. I mean, he can charter a private jet pretty much instantaneously and he picked a prosecutor and a judge of his choosing for a trial with nobody asking questions about it. And that was before becoming Chief Prosecutor. No wonder there are nasty rumors about him.

Author:  Southern Corn [ Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:15 pm ]
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And that updated autopsy report,too.

Author:  JesusMonroe [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:19 am ]
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Going for Miles wrote:
When percieving, I always let the testimony go over and over while kinda scanning the witness' body for tics. Find nothing? Hear it again. Wait for the suspicious part to come, then hoover around. In SoJ I realized that the tics don't stop if you stop the testimony itself. Pausing on the bit I thought suspicious and then scan for tics proved way more effective... Groundbreaking.

Whaaaaat. Changes everything

Author:  Reznov877 [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:21 pm ]
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Ami Fey is like
Ima Fey
I'm a Fey.
Jesus christ I never notice that!

Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:04 am ]
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That was a good one too, GfM.

Author:  Southern Corn [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:44 am ]
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Misty Fey sounds like mystify

Morgan Fey is a homage to Morgan le Fay

Author:  Going for Miles [ Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:44 pm ]
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That Apollo's jacket is in the WAA in DD already. I thought that was added in SoJ since I had never noticed it before.

Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:15 pm ]
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The fact that Roger Retinz sounds like Ratings Rajah flipped around - it took me a little while and I just thought "yeah yeah, Ratings, Ratings", that is, I understood the "Retinz"-thing but not the other. First it was "oh, yeah, it does sound a bit similar", when I figured, and then it was "...oh, it sounds quite damn similar if you use American English and not British, like I do".

Author:  Jean Descole [ Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:59 am ]
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Thanks to this GK2/AAI-2 related thread, I realized that I never noticed the change in Yumihiko/Sebastian's hair. During normal conversation, the top of his hair is shaped like a question mark, but when he's surprised, it changes to an exclamation point.

Author:  Going for Miles [ Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:55 pm ]
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Spoiler: 6-5
Nayna's hairstyle looks like a cocoon. Likewise, she kinda cocoons herself with her clothes when revealing her true form.

Author:  Southern Corn [ Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:58 pm ]
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Yep,and her whole design resembles a Disney princess in some ways. Especially with Derpy Tiger.

Author:  Going for Miles [ Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:59 pm ]
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It may not be exactly "obvious", but something I noticed as I was replaying case 1-4 (for like the sixth time, but I never thought of it until now). When Phoenix is pointing out that the person on the picture is holding the gun in their left hand.

-Phoenix
The evidence is clear.

-Phoenix
The man in this photograph
is holding that pistol in
his left hand.

-Phoenix
However!

-Phoenix
The prints on the murder
weapon were from Edgeworth's
"right hand"!

-Phoenix
Ergo!

-Phoenix
The man shooting the pistol
in this photograph...

-Phoenix
Is not Mr. Edgeworth!!!

The "However!" and "Ergo!" feels very... Edgeworth. In the game, Phoenix and the Judge also uses the "However!", but it's mostly an Edgeworth thing, and outside of this, only Edgeworth and von Karma says "ergo", and only Edgeworth himself says "Ergo!" like this otherwise. I thought it was a nice touch. Like Phoenix got worked up defending Edgeworth and now that he had found something conclusive to work with he just got a boost of Miles' usual in-court energy and confidence.

Author:  Rubia Ryu the Royal [ Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:23 pm ]
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That is a nice little ref. I don't believe it was intended like that in the JP ver (since Nick usually talks like that in court anyway), but the localization team really knows how to slip in these little moments to further build their characters.

Author:  Going for Miles [ Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:28 pm ]
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I see! A little creative freedom that paid off then, I'd say :edgey:

Author:  Going for Miles [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:16 pm ]
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Mia's outfit... is not a blazer with a skirt. It's a dress. With a zipper in front. I'd never realized that until I looked in the T&T-booklet the other day. It's a casual zipped-up dress with a blazer-like collar so it looks lawyer-y. Kinda clever.

Also,
Spoiler: 6-4
I never noticed that Kisegawa had the higher-pitched bleeps before the reveal.

Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:17 pm ]
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I didn't realize it was a dress either!

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