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^As title says. What characters shifted from hate->like or like->hate.

Hate->like:

-Godot. Mainly, because his drinking animation was so long and his attitude used to annoy me. Towards the end of 3-5 and replaying T&T I suddenly grew attached to him.
-Franziska. Honestly, I like her better when she's not the prosecutor of a case.

Like->Hate:

-Pearl. I'm probably going to get slapped/shot for that but it's mainly because of the third game. I actually thought she was kind of cute in the second game. Third game, things like her slapping a guy to unconsciousness JUST because of her overactive imagination turned me off.
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Hate --> Like

Oldbag: I absolutely hated her in 1-3, but when she came back in 2-4 (and I got over my initial "UGHHH" reaction), I actually found her ray-gun thing amusing. :raygun: She still bothers me a bit, but I don't hate her anymore.

Manfred: Yeah, he just plain annoyed me at first, and his 'Objection' scared the living daylights out of me. But thinking back on it after I beat 1-4, I realized he was actually pretty darn fun to go against. Also, he's the spawn of Satan.

Like --> Hate

...I actually can't think of any off the top of my head. The Ace Attorney series has always been really good at making me fall in love with characters. I might have to get back to you on that one... :P
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Hate --> Like

One that definitely comes to mind is Edgey. He's the first guy in the games you're set up to hate and I did that with a passion until the rest of the story unfolded, and at the end of it I had a huuuuuge soft spot for the guy. It was good that way - like someone else wrote somewhere, he has to fight for your affection.

Can't think of anyone else just now so...I'll get back to you on that too. :will:
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Hate -> Like

Oldbag. I eventually realised she's MEANT to be annoying.

Like -> Hate

Klavier. How I hate you.
Pearl. 1st Playthrough through JFA: Aww, cute. 2nd Playthrough: Meh. T&T: No.
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i used to hate edgey BUT i grew to like him :edgy:

matt engarde liked but grew to hate
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Ah, Matt. I liked him alot, then ended up hating.
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me too engarde looked scary the last time i seen him :grey:
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From Hate to Love?

Manfred von Karma. No doubt. XD If it weren't for him then the game wouldn't exactly exist - or it would be centered around Defense Attorney Edgey, which I don't mind - plus I adore villains and von Karma's just awesome to me. I used to hate him for doing all kinds of terrible things. Then I remembered how much I love terrible things~
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that apollo is cute :godot:
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Hate --> Like

Matt Engarde : First, when I realized he was a bastard, I dislike him for using me. But when I replayed JFA again, then I realized he was a GREAT vilain.

Moe the Clown : Annoying at the begining, when I learned he took care of Max, Regina,... He was moving.

Dick Gumshoe : He was at the prosecution's side ! And cames 1-4. I realized he was a good guy. Go Gumshoe !

Like --> Hate

Klavier Gavin : Now I remember why I laughed when Phoenix dominated him for all the whole trial !
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Feather Black wrote:
Hate --> Like

Matt Engarde : First, when I realized he was a bastard, I dislike him for using me. But when I replayed JFA again, then I realized he was a GREAT vilain.

Moe the Clown : Annoying at the begining, when I learned he took care of Max, Regina,... He was moving.

Dick Gumshoe : He was at the prosecution's side ! And cames 1-4. I realized he was a good guy. Go Gumshoe !

Like --> Hate

Klavier Gavin : Now I remember why I laughed when Phoenix dominated him for all the whole trial !


HEY WATCH IT :chinami:
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Allow someone else to have a different opinion, "Prosecutor Gavin."
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Hate --> Like

OLDBAAAAGGG. I dunno why, but she just grew on me. What with her rants and whippersnappering and all....^_^


Like--> Hate

Klavier Gavin. It's not like I ever was like "omg I love him", but I tried REALLY hard to love him. I just couldn't.
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:( why do people do tis to me?!?!?!?
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You're not Klavier Gavin.
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ok ok............. :payne:

im actually :evil:

you got me daramatica

can we be friends?....... :matt: plz dude?

saying i hated my self cmon dude :evil: :enguard:

well im sorry for impersonating the best DAMN prosecutor ever :mattphone:

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I love quoting myself ! wrote:
Klavier Gavin : Now I remember why I laughed when Phoenix dominated him for all the whole trial !


And that's why Apollo starting growing on my mind.
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nextklaviergavin wrote:
ok ok............. :payne:

im actually :evil:

you got me daramatica

can we be friends?....... :matt: plz dude?!


*sigh* If you say so, okay.
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Spoiler: Dislike changed into the love with these ones
- Nick (Hey c'mon! always liked him!!)
- Maya (At first: Annoying, but now she must be in there!)
- Young Mia (I dunno...She's more interesting...)
- Edgeworth (First time I saw him: I hate him. Now: I LOVE HIM!!)
- Gumshoe!!
- Lotta (at first I didn't like her, but...She's pretty...something...)
- Pearl (Love at first sight!)
- Maggey (jeah...)
- Payne (read the one above)
- Franny (Hey c'mon! I'm a man and she is a female with a whip XD)
- Godot
- Judge (=P)
- Blue badger (!)
- Will Powers (His like a loveable father character)
- Oldbag (SHANNARO!!)
- Meekins (His a loser. That's why I like him wery much...not in that way...)
- Moe (Why people hate him? He is soooooo funny character! I'm his offical fan!)
- Adrian (How I couldn't like her =])
- Atmey (Zvarri! That Pinochio is just something!)
- Ron (^^)
- Dessie (She wears that suit [and it's red! =D] and she's bit grazy and definitely energtic!)
- Armstrong (See? Only neutral! You know why? His pink...ya read right...I also find him bit funny)
- Kudo (He is so much like I would be. Jobless pervert! XD I LOVE HIM!!)
- Diego (I like Godot so I have to like him too)
- Bikini (Sweet motherlike lady ^_^)
- Iris (love at first sight 2)
- Elise (Nice old lady ^^)
- Missile
- Shoe
- Polly
- Charley
- Apollo (Yeah. I like him. So what?!)
- Trucy (Yeah...Her too. She's cute ^^)
- Young Trucy (Maybe even more than norm. Trucy ^^)
- Hobo Nick (I don't understand why people hate him. He is after all still the same Phoenix. And I found hobo a bit cooler)
- Klavier (Sure he is a bit jerk and in himselff but...His still likeable guy)
- Eldoon (1. Noodels 2. Noodels 3. ...Well...He has a nice hat)
- LITTLE Plum Kitaki (She's is just so joke that you got to like her)
- Lamiroir (I guess it all goes to her mystery atmosphere)
- Machi (All thanks goes to Dramatica. At first I didn't like Machi at all and I though he was a girl, but now I so like him ^_^)
- Daryan (Hey c'mon...He has a penis on his forehead...)
- Vera (Love at first sight 3)


Spoiler: Liking changed into the disliking...with these ones...
- Mia (...You know...She's too...powerful...Though she has pretty nice breasts XD
- Sahwit (Get a hair XD)
- April May (Shis just like a squirrel... -_-')
- Mr. White (Gay smile...)
- Vasquez (She's so...cold...I like shy girls with gentle nature @_@)
- Young Ema (I don't get it myself either, but I guess I just find him as Maya 2.0)
- Lana (Well...I guess it has something to do with Mia)
- Angel (she's annpying)
- Wellington (Bit too gay...)
- Grey (FOR GODS SAKE BY CONTACT LENS!!!)
- Morgan (I guess ya can figure out if ya know me...)
- Trilo (burn...burn!...BUUUUUUUUURRRRNNNN!!!)


Spoiler: And these have gone up and down all the time...you could say these are the balanced or neutral ones
- Phoenix Wright (I NEVER call the young one as Nick...)
-Young Edgey (Pretty much just: meh)
- Grossberg
- Larry
- Karma (what can I say? His a badass, but he needs something...
- Bellboy
- Penny
- Cody
- Sal
- Yanni (Well...No reason)
- Marshall
- Gant (No hate, no like)
- Ini (I don't hate her, but I don't love him. Neutral)
- Hotti (he's just bit too...creepy...)
- Max
- Regina (she is cute but bit childish)
- Ben (I hate Trilo, but Ben is okay)
- Acro (well...yeah...)
- Matt (he changes too much...)
- Shelly
- Dahlia (meh)
- Viola
- Tigre
- Lisa
- Terry
- Judges bro.
- Kristoph (his bit too elegant to me)
- Young Klavi (A bit...well his a neutral one)
- Older Ema (Me + Science = You in Gant's bed...NEXT TO HIM!!)
- Olga
- Hickfield (Hehe...Go up by 16 and read the one above it =P)
- Wocky
- Alita
- Winfred Kitaki
- Wesley Stickler (It's by the way this close that I don't hate him...)
- Letouse
- Valant
- Brushel (I find him a bit funny ^^)
- D. Misham
- Zak (bit a jerk, but still...I feel bit sorry for him...

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Hate-->Like

I originally hated Manfred, but now I like him XD He's pretty cool, I think.

Payne - At first I was like "this guy is dumb" but now I'm like "this guy is funny!"

Dee - She's my favorite now XP She just bothered me on my first play-through with that attitude of hers.

Turner Grey - He makes me smile now. He used to make me frown.

Oh, and Iris is growing on me too

Like-->Hate

Klavier Gavin - I thought I was going to be cool, but when I actually played the game I was like NO.

The rest I either automatically like or disliked, pretty much.
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All mine have been mentioned.

Grew to like: Edgeworth. At first I was like "oh screw you and your objections all the time!" The game really makes you think he's the bad guy and all, what with all those rumors for forged evidence and "doing whatever it takes to prove the defendant guilty". But after 1-4 (and 1-5) and realising what is subtly going on with him and Nick I just love the guy. :edgy:

And although Pearls is oh so cute and everythin, especially in JFA, she's really starting to annoy me now (just finished 3-2). I hope she doesn't become even more annoying? :edgeworth:

Oh, also Mia, I really liked her in the first game, then in JFA she looked really disturbing while being channelled by Pearl and her whole attitude was really bad, always with "but it's obvious what the contradiction is". Yeah, really helpful. I don't hate her but yeah, don't really like her anymore either.

And finally Larry. I liked his goofy character in AA, but last time I saw him, he seemed like a real jerk. "That was then, now is different" or something like that, when Maya said he and Nick are friends? What did I ever do to this guy? Except save his ass from being declared a murderer of course.

That's all so far anyway, everyone else I either liked or hated from the start. Yes, even including Oldbag, I always liked her and her ways. :raygun:
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Hate > Like

:odoroki: - I was disappointed that Apollo replaced Phoenix at first, but then I started to play Apollo Justice and thought: 'Hey, Apollo isn't that bad.'

Like > Hate

:maya: - Maya wasn't that bad at first. But she gets worse after a while.

:pearl: - I was like "Awwww! She's so cute!" at first in JFA. But later on in T&T, she annoys me very much with her fantasy.
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Hate --> Like

:maya: I used to hate her overly preppy personality. And then, throughout the course of T&T, she grew on me.

:franny: ugh. I hated her soooo much. Like Maya, only replace "preppy" with "spiteful". She also grew better with time.

:chinami: D-d-d-Dahlia. I really disliked her (I still don't know why) and now I love her. High five, girlfriend!

:adrian: Geeze, what's with me and the girls of GS!? Anyway, Adrian was waaaaay too whiney for my tastes. I'm still rather iffy about her, but she's gaining my respect.

:garyuu: A guy! At last! Yes, I disliked Kristoph. And then he pulled out that nailpolish...

:zenitora: Eh heh heh. What can I say? That roaring can either be badass or annoying.

:doodle: Okay, I admit it. I HATED her quietness. It bothered me to such an extreme degree that I actually put off playing that case for a week. But then, through the world of fanfiction...

:mattphone: Yeah, I disliked Matt for a good while after 2-4. B-but then I replayed it and I started to like his personality ("true" personality, not his acting persona) and then and then...I'm a fangirl.

Like ---> Hate

A much smaller list.

:godot: Not "hate" per se but I don't care about him as much as I used too. I dunno why. *shrug*

:jake: Eh. He was cool at first. But, like Godot, I lost intrest in him.

:scientific: ... :psycho-lock:
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MezzoForte wrote:
:scientific: ... :psycho-lock:


!!

Quick! Someone get the Magatama! :maya:

... (Was it AJ? I didn't really care for AJ Ema as much as 1-5 Ema.)
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MezzoForte wrote:
:scientific: ... :psycho-lock:

-attempts to break psycho-lock but fails-
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I didn't used to like Moe that much, but my position has begun to change. Underneath that clown make-up, he's actually a very wise and mature man.

Then there's Klavier. I didn't have much against him at first, but over time, I grew to dislike his "king of cool" attitude. People that act that way almost always rub me the wrong way.
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Hate -- Like

Godot- This dude pissed me off to noooo end >.> He was so annoying and it was like he didn't care XD But then, for some reason, he grew on me and now hes my favorite character

Edgeworth- The dude was an ass in the first few cases XD I mean, now hes a little too nice, but its better.

Old Ema- I thought it was lame how she was a detective, but then I got to play the minigames, so its all good.

Like -- Hate

Like most everyone else... PEARLS- Dang her >.> It got old.

Klavier- I thought he was pretty cool in the beginning, but then I was like wtf is wrong with this kid.

Iris- I actually don't know why... Just cause XD


Hmm, thats it I guess.
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AHAHA. My relationship with Maya is often a joke among my PW buddies.

(1-2 and 1-3) Ugh. You're so annoying. I get it! You like burgers! You're just a cheap female sidekick thrown in for no reason, and you're poorly developed.

(1-4) Oh, you're leaving. That's kinda sad, but at least you're gone! : D

(1-5) "HAI MI NAME IS EMA SCIENCE CRUSH ON EDGEWORTH SCIENCE SCIENCY SCIENCE LUMINOL FORENSICKY SCIENCE".

(JFA+) MAYA. I MISSED YOU. I missed you SO MUCH. It was horrible. Talk about burgers for a while...I won't mind. I'll listen and smile stupidly as you make comments that make no sense. It's all good. I...I love you...
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Like --> Hate:

:wall-bang: At first I thought he was so cool, because of his habit of air guitaring in court, but as soon as he did it 3 times in 5 mins (near the end of 4-4 Trial, day 1), I realised how annoying it was. Also, it was around the end of the final investigation day in 2-3 that I figured out that the reason that this game was so easy was because he kept helping me.

:odoroki: At first, I thought he was OK, but in comparison with Phoenix from the flashback trial, his noobishness really starts to show.
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:odoroki: At first, I thought he was OK, but in comparison with Phoenix from the flashback trial, his noobishness really starts to show.


Erm, possibly because he IS a noob? He only had three cases under his belt, and Phoenix saved the day in 2 of them! But oh well.

Another hate to like is Moe, for me.
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Idk if there are any I hated right off the bat that I started liking. Maaaaaaaybe Turner Grey, but I think I even liked him a little right away.

Like to hate? Several.

Klavier for one. His fanbase pisses me off, as nextklaviergavin has so proved in this very thread. Congratulations, champ!

EDGEWORTH. His fanbase pisses me off more. OMG EDGEY SO HOT!!!!!1 no. :C fuck you and your fanbase edgeworth. You're overrated.
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...Hopefully someday... xD

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At first, I really used to hate Dahlia, but I've gradually started to like her.

I also used to like Pearl and Mia, but after replaying the games a couple of times, I've just found them annoying.
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I originally hated Ini.....

now I'm notorious with my friends for cosplaying her D:

I think it was a combination of her goofy demeanor and

Spoiler:
tragic backstory


that made me warm up to her.

Spoiler: and an added bonus
Plus she killed Dr. Grey, what's there not to like?

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ammchan wrote:
MezzoForte wrote:
:scientific: ... :psycho-lock:


!!

Quick! Someone get the Magatama! :maya:

... (Was it AJ? I didn't really care for AJ Ema as much as 1-5 Ema.)


Air wrote:
MezzoForte wrote:
:scientific: ... :psycho-lock:

-attempts to break psycho-lock but fails-
... D:


I'll help you along :D

Present: :magatama-spin:

:takethat:

I know why you dislike Ema Skye. And it's because...!

...Of her personality in AJ plus the shipping of Klavier and her together!

MF: NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO! :Pizza2:

:unlock:

There you go!
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MezzoForte wrote:
Present: :magatama-spin:

:takethat:

I know why you dislike Ema Skye. And it's because...!

...Of her personality in AJ plus the shipping of Klavier and her together!

MF: NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO! :Pizza2:

:unlock:


Yay, I got it! :keiko:
(I...agree with you for the most part, although, AJ!Ema just bothered me because I prefer/miss Gumshoe. I actually have a soft spot for Klavier/Ema *blush*)
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YAY! :D

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Hate/dislike/whatever -> love

I didn't like :franny: much, and I thought :sadshoe: was pathetic. I don't remember what my beef was with :will: , but I remember not liking him much at first either. :damon: annoyed me at first, too, and :edgeworth: got on my nerves. I'm pretty good with all of them now, though.

Love/like/whatever -> hate

I thought :bro: was funny at first, but he was always too hasty with everything. I mean, I know that's supposed to be part of the "little brother" image (younger, less mature), but...I dunno...
I can't make a cool sig until I get my laptop back. ;_;
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Hate ~> love

Ema Skye: in 1-5 other than the fact she gave you cool stuff to play mini games with, she was hella annoying. She was like a copy of Maya which I had already hated. The only difference was she was a tad more annoying.
Spoiler: 1-5
I hated how they tried to tie in a tragic past for her, it was just bad.
In AJ though, she was more mature and had her own personality. I liked how she was obsessed with Snackoos and just everything about her. MUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCH
MUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCH


Maggey Bryde: Like Ema, I found her highly annoying in 2-1. I couldn't STAND her. When I was playing T&T and saw her again I just thought Oh hell no. I especially hated her when poor Gumshoe was trying the best he could to make her happy and she turned down everything. Even though Gumshoe was only doing his job! It's bad enough that his pay check went down about a bazillion times. Then she has to make Maya and Phoenix feel bad for eating the weenies that were meant for her. That just pissed me off. Only at the end of 3-3 was I ok with her. I like her much more now cause she's with Gumshoe :3

Maya: SOO ANNOYING at first, SOO ANNOYING. I actually hated her with a passion. It wasn't until 1-5 and forward that I started to like her. Kinda like Gil's relationship with Maya xD

Edgeworth: First: I dunno why I just didn't find him interesting :/ (AHH CALL THE COPS SHE'S CRAZY >_>;; ) After: one word, BADASS ('scuse my french :3) specially now that he has his own GAME :D

Pearls: Yes, again call me crazy but at first I hated her cuteness and how she paired Phoenix and Maya. After 2-2 I just kinda got used to it.

Dahlia: Hated her SOO MUCH, how she pretended to be all innocent and then BAM! EVIL. 3-4 and 3-5 changed all of that. Now I think she was an awesome villain :D

Adrian: Hated her personality in 2-4. Being all snooty and then being a complete cry baby. Annoying. Then I enjoyed her goofy-self in 3-2.

Angel Starr: Meh, I just didn't like her, until I replayed 1-5

Like ~> Hate

Not as much here xD

Sal Manella: At first even before actually playing 1-3 I saw pictures of him and thought, Ha! cool! a complete nerd. That'll be an interesting character! but then he got all perverted over Maya and then he was just plain creepy D:

There's more I just really don't feel like listing them, and I've basically said how I feel about them for someone else :P
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Hate --> Like
Apollo: Like most people I was skeptical about him at first, but after playing the game through a second time (yeah I'm sad) I started to like him. Unlike most people I stopped complaining and just accepted the fact that he's the main character now.

Brushel: I found him annoying at first, but he grew on me. I find him to be quite funny now.

Like --> Hate
Tigre: While I liked him at first...
Spoiler: I don't really know if this counts, but just to be on the safe side. 3-3
It just got annoying how he kept roaring in the courtroom and how everyone, save Godot, was afraid of him. Not only that but it was annoying how you have to tread carefully while cross-examining him.

I'm not coming back. I'm done with this fanbase. You're all up-tight, nit-picking, hypocrites who are TERRIFIED of change. Getting banned just for standing up for myself... I'm never coming back. Goodbye forever you brats.
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