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Examples include:
Kurain (used to pronounce it like "cure aim" but with an n instead of an m. Now I pronounce it properly)
Gramarye (used to pronounce it like "gram a rye" (like rye bread), only just recently found out it's pronounced the same as Grimoire)
Godot (used to pronounce it like "guh dough" as one quick word, but apparently it's more like "Ga Dough" with a little more of a space between the two syllables.
Anyone else have any situations like this?
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Metis. Is it "Meh-tis" - that is, short e (without the h sound!), or "Mee-tis" (long e)? I tend to lean more towards the short e pronunciation.
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D.A. McCoy wrote:
Ok, here's one I still don't know. How am I supposed to pronounce Lamiroir?
The "Lami-" part of the name is self-explanatory, with the stress on the first syllable.
The "-roir" part is pronounced like the word "trois", which is 3 in French. Remove the "t", and read the rest like this: r-oo(like in the word "look")-ah. The stress is on the second syllable (and is the most pronounced one in the word).
In conclusion, it's: Lah-mi-roo-ah (the stress on the fourth syllable is more pronounced).
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As many of you know, the name Godot originally comes from Samuel Beckett's play "Waiting for Godot", which was originally written in French, so the pronunciation would be applied accordingly. In short, I believe the correct way to pronounce Godot is this: Go(the "o" is like in the word "long" with British pronunciation)-do(same deal with the "o"). The "t" is silent. The stress is on the second syllable.
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Kurain (used to pronounce it like "cure aim" but with an n instead of an m. Now I pronounce it properly)
Well, if we were to pronounce it the original way, it'd be this: Ku(like the "u" in "lure", pronounced really quickly, almost silent)-rah(like the "a" in "aisle")-een(like in "teen"). Come to think of it, it sounds almost exactly like the Japanese "Take that!", which is "Kurae!". Just replace the "e" with the "in", and you're set!
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Gramarye (used to pronounce it like "gram a rye" (like rye bread), only just recently found out it's pronounced the same as Grimoire)
Um, I'm pretty sure you were pronouncing the word correctly before.
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as obsessive and nitpicky. Just wanted to share little bits here and there. If I'm incorrect in any way, feel free to point out any inconsistencies in my testimony.
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Though I know in general how Japanese pronunciation works (so I also knew how to pronounce Kurain "the Japanese way"), I thought it was supposed to be pronounced the English way as part of localization.
And I can't for the life of me figure out how Gramarye is pronounced the same way as Grimoire.
...Also a bit curious you know how to pronounce Grimoire but not Lamiroir.
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Gramarye (used to pronounce it like "gram a rye" (like rye bread), only just recently found out it's pronounced the same as Grimoire)
Both are wrong though (unless you pronounce grimoire oddly). In IPA, gramarye is written as ɡɹæməɹi, so 'rye' here is pronounced something like 'rea(d)' (the 'y' in very)
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Ash wrote:
D.A. McCoy wrote:
Gramarye (used to pronounce it like "gram a rye" (like rye bread), only just recently found out it's pronounced the same as Grimoire)
Both are wrong though (unless you pronounce grimoire oddly). In IPA, gramarye is written as ɡɹæməɹi, so 'rye' here is pronounced something like 'rea' (the 'y' in very)
So essentially it's something like Gram-Maria? Interesting.
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I think the game clues you into how to pronounce his name. In his first appearance, the judge calls Godot "Gobo," presumably with both syllables rhyming. Godot then corrects him on this.
Is Kurain really pronounced as "koo-rah-een"? I always said it as "koo-rain"
Metis is properly pronounced as "mee-tis", but like with Godot I end up pronouncing it the way I did the first time around, as "meh-tis"
Gramarye: At first I pronounced it as "gram-air-yee", but I heard it pronounced as "gram-air", and now in this thread, I see the pronunciation of "gram-air-ree". Though you could also pronounce it as "gram-are", I suppose.
Lamiroir: "La-meer-waar" (the last syllable rhymes with noir, bon soir, au revoir, etc.)
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Godot: I usually pronounce it as "go-doe", with both syllables rhyming with the word "go". Sometimes I slip up and read it as "go-dot", pronouncing the "t"
I think the game clues you into how to pronounce his name. In his first appearance, the judge calls Godot "Gobo," presumably with both syllables rhyming. Godot then corrects him on this.
Is Kurain really pronounced as "koo-rah-een"? I always said it as "koo-rain"
Metis is properly pronounced as "mee-tis", but like with Godot I end up pronouncing it the way I did the first time around, as "meh-tis"
Gramarye: At first I pronounced it as "gram-air-yee", but I heard it pronounced as "gram-air", and now in this thread, I see the pronunciation of "gram-air-ree". Though you could also pronounce it as "gram-are", I suppose.
I thought it was Lam-wahr
Lamiroir: "La-meer-waar" (the last syllable rhymes with noir, bon soir, au revoir, etc.)
I think the game clues you into how to pronounce his name. In his first appearance, the judge calls Godot "Gobo," presumably with both syllables rhyming. Godot then corrects him on this.
Is Kurain really pronounced as "koo-rah-een"? I always said it as "koo-rain"
Metis is properly pronounced as "mee-tis", but like with Godot I end up pronouncing it the way I did the first time around, as "meh-tis"
Gramarye: At first I pronounced it as "gram-air-yee", but I heard it pronounced as "gram-air", and now in this thread, I see the pronunciation of "gram-air-ree". Though you could also pronounce it as "gram-are", I suppose.
I thought it was Lam-wahr
Lamiroir: "La-meer-waar" (the last syllable rhymes with noir, bon soir, au revoir, etc.)
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On Kurain, if you examine either the folding screen or one of the scrolls with writing in 2-2 or 3-2, Phoenix will read the Japanese. He reads it like so: "Ku... ra... in." I guess this indicates that Kurain is three syllables.
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Nurio wrote:
And I can't for the life of me figure out how Gramarye is pronounced the same way as Grimoire.
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Um, I'm pretty sure you were pronouncing the word correctly before.
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Both are wrong though (unless you pronounce grimoire oddly). In IPA, gramarye is written as ɡɹæməɹi, so 'rye' here is pronounced something like 'rea(d)' (the 'y' in very)
You are all indeed correct, which is great because I couldn't stand trying to keep from pronouncing it my old way in my head and trying to say Grimoire instead. My confusion stemmed from looking it up on wikipedia one night at like 3 AM and seeing that it automatically redirected me to the page for Grimoire. Somehow I didn't think to look it up on wiktionary, which would have helped more, so I just took how Phoenix pronounced Grimoire and applied it.
However, when replaying AJ 4-3 a couple days ago, I noticed that when Valant tells Apollo about Troupe Gramarye Apollo replies back "Grammarie?" which flat out stated how to pronounce it. So in this case I'm glad to be wrong as that was very close to my original pronunciation (the Rye part is gone but I can live with that).
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I never knew that Kurain and Gramarye had such pronunciations up until now.
Though I know in general how Japanese pronunciation works (so I also knew how to pronounce Kurain "the Japanese way"), I thought it was supposed to be pronounced the English way as part of localization.
And I can't for the life of me figure out how Gramarye is pronounced the same way as Grimoire.
...Also a bit curious you know how to pronounce Grimoire but not Lamiroir.
[/quote]Though I know in general how Japanese pronunciation works (so I also knew how to pronounce Kurain "the Japanese way"), I thought it was supposed to be pronounced the English way as part of localization.
And I can't for the life of me figure out how Gramarye is pronounced the same way as Grimoire.
...Also a bit curious you know how to pronounce Grimoire but not Lamiroir.
I sometimes think Phoenix will instinctually pronounce it like I originally did, but like another post mentioned Phoenix reads it off the screen so he knows how it is "supposed" to pronounce it. Also I figure Maya and Pearl and the other Kurain followers would pronounce it the original way. So I almost believe the localization effect occurs in the actual game to the non-kurain characters.
It would also mean that Ace Attorney 6 could be called "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Kurain out for help!" which would be
Regarding Lamiroir, my instinct was that it was pronounced similar to Grimoire but I didn't know for sure.
Didn't know "Metis" would be pronounced "Meetis". That's going to be hard to get used to.
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I've always pronounced Psyche locks like Athena's last name, as in Psych locks. Upon thinking about all the words in AA I've pronounced, I realized that it should sound like "Psychey locks" if I'm not mistaken. This is probably the most difficult of them all, because I can't for the life of me take "Psychey locks" seriously, even though Psyche is a completely serious word. For some reason "Psycho locks" sounds less ridiculous to me than "Psyche locks". Also because it was obviously the word Psyche and I should have never pronounced it wrong in the first place.
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It would also mean that Ace Attorney 6 could be called "Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Kurain out for help!" which would be terrible awesome.
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I've always pronounced Psyche locks like Athena's last name, as in Psych locks. Upon thinking about all the words in AA I've pronounced, I realized that it should sound like "Psychey locks" if I'm not mistaken. This is probably the most difficult of them all, because I can't for the life of me take "Psychey locks" seriously, even though Psyche is a completely serious word. For some reason "Psycho locks" sounds less ridiculous to me than "Psyche locks". Also because it was obviously the word Psyche and I should have never pronounced it wrong in the first place.
Same here. I know Psyche is a word and that it's pronounced "Psychey", but I'm not gonna budge on my pronunciation of "Psych Locks"
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Didn't know "Metis" would be pronounced "Meetis". That's going to be hard to get used to.
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Metis. Is it "Meh-tis" - that is, short e (without the h sound!), or "Mee-tis" (long e)? I tend to lean more towards the short e pronunciation.
Both pronouncations are (sorta) correct, actually. "Meetis" (longated vowel) is how the name is pronounced in Modern Greek. In Ancient Greek however, the ῆ in Μῆτις was pronounced differently (Modern Greek basically threw a bunch of vowels together to simplify the language). in AG, the vowel is pronounced something like the 'e' in "men", or the "ai" in "fairy". I only know AG, so I always read the ῆ the 'old-fashioned' way.
>> Psyche Locks: I always say Pscyho Locks (because I mostly played the games in Japanese, and that's how they're supposed to be pronounced in that version ^_~)
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I've always pronounced Psyche locks like Athena's last name, as in Psych locks. Upon thinking about all the words in AA I've pronounced, I realized that it should sound like "Psychey locks" if I'm not mistaken. This is probably the most difficult of them all, because I can't for the life of me take "Psychey locks" seriously, even though Psyche is a completely serious word. For some reason "Psycho locks" sounds less ridiculous to me than "Psyche locks". Also because it was obviously the word Psyche and I should have never pronounced it wrong in the first place.
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Both are wrong though (unless you pronounce grimoire oddly). In IPA, gramarye is written as ɡɹæməɹi, so 'rye' here is pronounced something like 'rea(d)' (the 'y' in very)
So my pronunciation is correct. I always thought it was wrong, somehow.
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I mean, that makes sense, because it isn't 'psych'. The e's gotta be there for a reason. But I always read it like 'Cykes'. Psychey-Locks sounds so weird.
I used to, and sometimes still do, read Klavier's name like the French word. Like Klavi-eh. It wasn't until later that I found out that in German there's more emphasis on the e and the r is meant to be pronounced.
I also read Lamiroir how 'miroir' would be in French. Sometimes I'll pronounce the r's the English way though. Depends on how I'm feeling.
Now I'm wondering how Gramarye is meant to be pronounced. I thought it was 'rye' as in 'cry'. A long e just sounds wrong to me.
Also, how is Franziska meant to be pronounced? I always thought it was written how it was spelled, with the z, but I've heard people say 'Francheska' so I'm not so sure.
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Also, how is Franziska meant to be pronounced? I always thought it was written how it was spelled, with the z, but I've heard people say 'Francheska' so I'm not so sure.
If it's German, Franziska is pronounced really as you see it, but with a slight T before the Z.
Remember, both A in her name are an A like in "dark" not an A like in "cat"
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I pronounce it as Fran-zis-kuh
I never understood why Americans (or all English-speaking people?) phonetically write the "ah" sound like "uh". But at this point, I understand that my "ah" is an American "uh".
So, I'd say it's more Frahn-Tzis-Kah, which is probably the exact same thing as you mean
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One thing I never understood is how English speakers tend to always pronounce short European As as either "ah" or the A in "cat". They are perfectly able to pronounce it, as observed in words like "funny", "bun" or "uncooked". ;)
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Actually, it's like this: First syllable rhymes with "fun", second syllable is "tsis", third syllable is "kah". The emphasis lies on the second syllable.
One thing I never understood is how English speakers tend to always pronounce short European As as either "ah" or the A in "cat". They are perfectly able to pronounce it, as observed in words like "funny", "bun" or "uncooked". ;)
One thing I never understood is how English speakers tend to always pronounce short European As as either "ah" or the A in "cat". They are perfectly able to pronounce it, as observed in words like "funny", "bun" or "uncooked". ;)
I think there's a slight difference between the "ah" sound as in Franziska and as in "fun". It's close, though
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There really isn't. The English word "bun" sounds exactly like the German word "Bann". ;)
Hm, I really guess it depends on what English dialect you're talking about, because the one I have in my head pronounces bun slightly different from Bann
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How would you pronounce "Tobaye," from Machi Tobaye? I pronounce it as toe-bay
That's how I pronounce it too. Not sure if it's correct, though
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How would you pronounce "Tobaye," from Machi Tobaye? I pronounce it as toe-bay
According to the Jap spelling, it's more like Toe-bye, with a hanging uh sound at the end. That's about as close as I could get without resorting to pronouncing the kana literally.
I too fell into the trap and pronounced it like "toe-bye-eh".
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