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Author:  Jade [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:22 am ]
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Being the pansy that I am, I couldn't see clearly cuz I was so misty-eyed *sniffles* as soon as I was gonna present that evidence, I was just.... kind of in shock, I guess. I hate Kristoph! I have to say, in terms of making a villian, they did a pretty good job (though I don't think he completely matches with Dahlia, Gant, or Matt).
:phoenix: :hobohodo: MASON system pawns.
Author:  Balrog [ Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:54 am ]
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The MASON system confused me. A lot. -_-"
Author:  DarthTaco [ Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:01 pm ]
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MASON System? It was very nice

Gwiffen wrote:
Heck, I got jumpy when Phoenix pointed and his music played in case 1.


Me too Q_Q.

My Favorite Character of the Game was Hobohodo, freaking awesome :hobohodo: .
Author:  kristophlover967 [ Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:33 am ]
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The main problem with the Mason system, which I'm sure many share the same opinion, was that it was way too confusing. Obtaining materials in the present and being able to bring and use them in the past was kinda screwed up. It was just poorly designed, it felt rushed, and it was very unclear. If it returns in GS5, hopefully they'll re-design it better. It was definately a unique concept, though, and going back in time was fun. Now I want to put down TWEWY and play 4-4 again... I don't think anyone really cares though.
Author:  SuzuneAyasato [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:07 pm ]
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Gwiffen wrote:

My Favorite Character of the Game was Hobohodo, freaking awesome :hobohodo: .



Oh yes, as it has been said a few sites ago, I hope there is going to be a split-series. Apollo and Hobo, each one having his own series. I don't want to miss Phoenix Wright, but I don't want to miss Apollo Justice either.. ~PLEASE GOD! (Or at least Capcom) be so kind and let Polly and Feenie have their own series! THANK YOU! ~
Author:  kristophlover967 [ Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:06 pm ]
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Yes, I was kind of disappointed in how much Hobohodo had say in this game... he played TOO big a part. When I bought it, I thought hobohodo would only make a brief appearance, and that it would be mostly Apollo's game. I think Apollo's a cool character, but just like mostly everyone else in that game, there wasn't enough development. But then we also need to see Capcom throw us GS5...

GS4 leaves a few loose ends in my opinion.
Author:  grim_tales [ Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:15 pm ]
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With the Mason System, I didnt understand how/why things in the past were written as if they were happening in the "Now" eg in the past Apollo was 15, but his profile is still written as if :phoenix: knew him then? Huh? Maybe :odoroki: was a magician when he was 15 :D
It's written :odoroki: was "a greenhorn defence attorney" at 15. Why wait 7 years to take your first trial? Going backwards and forwards was confusing although I thought Phoenix was cleverly woven into the whole game.
However next time I want to see more of :odoroki:
Author:  grim_tales [ Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:36 am ]
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Kristoph's Psyche Locks...

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I was really disappointed those weren't broken, if so what was the point of them appearing? I kept thinking "Have I missed something?"

I thought if you had broken them then :phoenix: could use that against Kristoph in court. But no....
Author:  skitarii [ Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:46 am ]
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Hey, does anyone know where in 4-4 does trucy cry? I think I missed thta animation...
Author:  liamnaruto [ Sun Sep 28, 2008 1:23 am ]
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Spoiler:
some one said no ine nknows why he is not a lwey anmore
i know why it's in case 4 the ast case
Author:  Darling Dream [ Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:34 pm ]
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skitarii wrote:
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Hey, does anyone know where in 4-4 does trucy cry? I think I missed thta animation...


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I think that was when Phoenix said "I'm the only one who knows how she really feels on the inside," or something to that extent... :yuusaku:
Author:  Fifix [ Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:20 pm ]
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ScentOfFreshLemon wrote:
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I think that was when Phoenix said "I'm the only one who knows how she really feels on the inside," or something to that extent... :yuusaku:


Spoiler:
Yup. Just before the credits.
Author:  Chrome Samurai [ Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:21 pm ]
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hmm..this is something that bother me till now
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Why did drew misham drew all of aJ's case in his painting, how can he do that?? I though they told that he and vera never get a chance to leave their home..and why should he drew that?
Author:  Invidente7 [ Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:08 pm ]
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Chrome Samurai wrote:
hmm..this is something that bother me till now
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Why did drew misham drew all of aJ's case in his painting, how can he do that?? I though they told that he and vera never get a chance to leave their home..and why should he drew that?


Chrome Samurai wrote:
hmm..this is something that bother me till now
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He most likely did it as a way to express his admiration towards Apollo...and also because he didn't have much to do since he stays in his house MOST of the time :yogi:
Author:  Chrome Samurai [ Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:57 pm ]
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Invidente7 wrote:
Chrome Samurai wrote:
hmm..this is something that bother me till now
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Why did drew misham drew all of aJ's case in his painting, how can he do that?? I though they told that he and vera never get a chance to leave their home..and why should he drew that?


Chrome Samurai wrote:
hmm..this is something that bother me till now
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He most likely did it as a way to express his admiration towards Apollo...and also because he didn't have much to do since he stays in his house MOST of the time :yogi:


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but how can he know about apollo? is he always there when something's gonna happend related apollo?If so, there would be a big lie about staying at home all the times
Author:  Ardee [ Sun May 10, 2009 8:32 pm ]
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This has been bugging me since I finished 4-2... When you examine Nick's DVDs, he aid 'some kid' sends them to him. Hmm... Who could this be? Pearl? Maya? Cody? Ema?
Author:  Brawldud [ Wed May 13, 2009 12:54 am ]
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I vote Cody. Or maybe Penny. Maybe fowarding DVDs. From Cody to Penny to Maya to Hobo.. I mean Phoenix.
Author:  Ardee [ Wed May 13, 2009 7:02 pm ]
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Yeah, but Cody sending DVDs to 'pops'? He'd be like... 16? 18? But the Penny>Maya>Hobo makes sense...
Author:  Brawldud [ Wed May 13, 2009 7:45 pm ]
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I switch my vote to Penny-Maya. Penny sent Maya Pink Princess cards because she couldn't get them in Kurain Village. What if she sent DVDs too?
Author:  Ardee [ Wed May 13, 2009 7:50 pm ]
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Ahah. So a Fey referrence in AJ:AA is now plausible!
Author:  icer [ Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:15 pm ]
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Ardee wrote:
Ahah. So a Fey referrence in AJ:AA is now plausible!

I've been told this article is Takumi stating the DVDs were sent by Maya. Observe word 'DVD'.
Spoiler: wish I could read it
Image
Author:  Rain Faraday [ Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:53 am ]
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In the Spanish version it's clearly stated that the one who sent the DVDs is a girl, so I'd say it was Maya.
Also, there's a reference to Mia when examining Charly (Or was it Charlie? uhh, something like that).
Author:  Izzy011 [ Fri Aug 21, 2009 11:47 pm ]
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I always wanted to get this cleared up

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You know how Vera stated she saw the devil when kidnapped....Was it Kristoph and his scar thing?
Author:  ObjectionEarthbound [ Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:37 am ]
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Izzy011 wrote:
I always wanted to get this cleared up

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You know how Vera stated she saw the devil when kidnapped....Was it Kristoph and his scar thing?


OMG GOOD POINT but I thought only Apollo could see it through the perceive system
Author:  Person-Man [ Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:35 am ]
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Spoiler: Case 3
What did Machi need money for? Lamiroir's eye operation?
Author:  Godot von Karma [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:01 pm ]
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.......
Author:  LyingColdly [ Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:02 am ]
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If Apollo's father died before Lamiroir did, and Trucy was born before Lamiroir died, that means both Trucy, Lamiroir and Apollo were alive at the same time. So how come Apollo and Trucy had never even met until AJ:AA?
Author:  LyingColdly [ Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:53 pm ]
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Sorry for the double post but meh, there's 3 hours between the posts. I'll live.

Spoiler:
Phoenix is proven innocent of faking evidence by the end of AJ. Does that mean he can get his badge back? He even mentions 'taking the BAR exam again'.. :adrian:

Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Fake Evidence for All?
Author:  SuperGanondorf [ Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:57 am ]
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Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of the ending. It took forever, and other than a few hilarious animations (you know which ones I'm talking about), it was nothing special. It was completely anticlimactic. Touching, though. Not awful, just not as good as the others.

LyingColdly wrote:
Spoiler:
Phoenix is proven innocent of faking evidence by the end of AJ. Does that mean he can get his badge back? He even mentions 'taking the BAR exam again'.. :adrian:

Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Fake Evidence for All?


I've wondered about the same thing. Capcom better bring him back!
Author:  AlyssaAceFanAttorney [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:22 am ]
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tsurikato wrote:
hides teh gun
just kidding ;D

Spoiler:
actually, when i heard about the whole daughter thing, that was an instant WTF for me.

Me too it striked me as PW a FATHER?ja? :kyouya:
Author:  AlyssaAceFanAttorney [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:38 am ]
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So remember in court when Kristoph went insane attorney? That was crazy but you now what really caught me? The way Klavier looked at his brother it was soo strong. But in any case does anyone know if there will be a next ace attorney after investigations(but not fanmade i mean by capcom.)Well i cant believe Trucy was AJs brother and all so on.Phoenix is now Ace Father Attorney at anything agency!!!!!!!lol and leader of the jurists system.it would be epic if he got his badge back and maya burst in out of nowhere shouting niiiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :maya: ! and trucy would be like ... and and and Edgeworth just came out of nowhere with larry butz. :edgeworth: :larry: hey and dont get mad. i mean an ace fan can only dream or i may become illegal if you get violent a criminal or go physco like Kristoph :garyuu: !!!!!!!![spoiler=]
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Author:  Tinkotin [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:44 am ]
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I will shoot myself if Capcom thinks of an excuse that :minuki: is :pearl: i mean WTF!??!? Then they will probably think of :edgeworth: = :udgy: or maybe not but anyway i hope it doesen't turn out that Minuki is Pearly lol but not to worry it probably won't since there is no logic because i think Pearly would be older than Minuki at the time it takes place so yeah :)
Author:  Going for Miles [ Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:13 pm ]
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It's quite cheeky how Phoenix
Spoiler:
uses forged evidence to bring Kristoph down.
I can't believe I didn't think of that until now. :hobohodo:
Author:  WaitingforGodot [ Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:09 pm ]
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GoingforMiles wrote:
It's quite cheeky how Phoenix
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uses forged evidence to bring Kristoph down.
I can't believe I didn't think of that until now. :hobohodo:


Phoenix, you little prick. :phoenix: Yes, it was cheeky and quite funny.
Author:  Sowl16 [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:11 pm ]
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Theres something that i never figured out, one of the most intriguing findings in the story imo.
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When you discover the rough drafts under Vera's paintings, that she drew all of Apollo's cases... Whats up with that? Its never explained
Author:  Jozerick [ Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:18 pm ]
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Sowl16 wrote:
Theres something that i never figured out, one of the most intriguing findings in the story imo.
Spoiler:
When you discover the rough drafts under Vera's paintings, that she drew all of Apollo's cases... Whats up with that? Its never explained

It is explained, actually.
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The rough sketches were drawn by Vera's father. Basically, he felt guilty about Phoenix's disbarment; over the years he kept gathering information about Phoenix's office/agency, and Vera says he was very happy when he heard they were resuming legal business.
Author:  Jozerick [ Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:53 pm ]
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Did Trucy and Kristoph knew each other before 4-1? You know, with Trucy being Phoenix's daughter and sometimes coming to the Borscht Bowl Club to help him play poker, and Kristoph supposedly being Phoenix's friend and regularly eating at the Borscht Bowl Club with him. It is possible that they met and were introduced to each other and maybe Phoenix even invited Kristoph to watch Trucy's show.
Or is there evidence in the game that they didn't know each other?
Author:  MBr [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:22 pm ]
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Jozerick wrote:
Did Trucy and Kristoph knew each other before 4-1? You know, with Trucy being Phoenix's daughter and sometimes coming to the Borscht Bowl Club to help him play poker, and Kristoph supposedly being Phoenix's friend and regularly eating at the Borscht Bowl Club with him. It is possible that they met and were introduced to each other and maybe Phoenix even invited Kristoph to watch Trucy's show.
Or is there evidence in the game that they didn't know each other?

After completing AJ yesterday, and as far as I can remember Trucy never mentions that she met or knows Kristoph. They're only in one scene together, and that's the final trial (I think Kristoph disguised himself when he gave 8-year-old Trucy the page). It's highly possible that Trucy and Kristoph met at the Borscht Bowl Club for the reasons you stated.
Author:  Nearavex [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:18 pm ]
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LyingColdly wrote:
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If Apollo's father died before Lamiroir did, and Trucy was born before Lamiroir died, that means both Trucy, Lamiroir and Apollo were alive at the same time. So how come Apollo and Trucy had never even met until AJ:AA?

But, Apollo was given away long before Thalassa's accident...
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