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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:51 pm

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It had to be done...

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:19 pm

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conditionals wrote:

It had to be done...

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:36 am

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:53 pm

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I suppose we should discuss how awesome Apollo's theme song, i.e. Objection 2007, aka Start of a New Trial is?

If you want to hear it, it's here, and the orchestrated version is here. (It only gets good 30 seconds in)

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:35 pm

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Ah yes, love this song.

The bells are what make it so great.

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:54 pm

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I absolutely love Apollo's Objection theme. It fits him so well, and it's well orchestrated. Props to the composer. :odoroki:

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:59 pm

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Sorry for the off topic.
I made this earlier today.

Spoiler: south park

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:46 am

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neoswordmaster wrote:

Sorry for the off topic.
I made this earlier today.

Spoiler: south park

!!awsome!!

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:32 am

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Okay, we need a new topic.

... Exactly who was Apollo's father, and what will his relevance be in the coming games?

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:47 pm

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I think that Apollo's father will be connected in a case somehow (naturally), but I'm not sure if he'll "rise from the dead" like (

Spoiler:

) or not. I'm pretty set on him staying dead, though I'd love for Apollo to be able to meet his father.

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:07 pm

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Let me get this straight: you hope he's still alive, but you think he's not?

Anyway, here's everything we know about Apollo's father:
He was a performer
He died (or did he?) on stage in what was labeled as an accident (or was it?)
He met Thalassa when he made a guest appearance on the Gramarye's TV show
He's, uh... Apollo's father.

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:33 pm

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Yes, that's right. But when you say it like that, it sounds pretty unsure. :yuusaku:

I wish he was alive, but I'm pretty sure he's not. That sounds a bit better.

I don't know though, Ace Attorney series does a lot of "miracle" sequences throughout the series, so maybe Apollo's father is alive. It's certainly a possibility, seeing how his mother lives on after her accident as well.

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:44 pm

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ApollaJustice wrote:

I wish he was alive, but I'm pretty sure he's not.

I misread that as "I'm pretty sure he's hot." XD

All joking aside, the fate of Apollo's father does seem familiar to the fate of Misty Fey that was presented in GS1. I believe that Capcom will provide that in a future game.

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:22 pm

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neoswordmaster wrote:

ApollaJustice wrote:

I wish he was alive, but I'm pretty sure he's not.

I misread that as "I'm pretty sure he's hot." XD

Well, of course, that too. :snackood:

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:43 am

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Hello! I am almost embarassed to say that I'm infatuated with Apollo and think he is the cutest guy in the game. :edgy:

I've always wondered about his 'past' though. Whether he an orphan, or was he adopted? I felt so sad for him when I found out he grew up without knowing who his mum/or dad was. :sadshoe:

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:00 am

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I'm really excited to see about Apollo's history/past as well, I mean there's so many questions about him, and he's my 2nd favorite character in the whole game!

Favorite pairing you would have with Apollo?

I'm on the Apollo X Ema train. haha

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:06 am

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:51 am

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R.M. wrote:

I'm really excited to see about Apollo's history/past as well, I mean there's so many questions about him, and he's my 2nd favorite character in the whole game!

Favorite pairing you would have with Apollo?

I'm on the Apollo X Ema train. haha

You know, if I ever get the means and motivation to share a case, I have a case idea that promotes Apollo X Ema.

To summarize the important parts, Apollo hears about a recent murder but no arrests have been made yet. He does a brief investigation (but Ema won't let him on the crime scene) and at the end of the investigation, Apollo meets with Ema... who reluctantly arrests him. After the first day of court, Ema offers to do his investigation because he's stuck in the detention centre.

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:00 pm

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GigaHand wrote:

R.M. wrote:

I'm really excited to see about Apollo's history/past as well, I mean there's so many questions about him, and he's my 2nd favorite character in the whole game!

Favorite pairing you would have with Apollo?

I'm on the Apollo X Ema train. haha

You know, if I ever get the means and motivation to share a case, I have a case idea that promotes Apollo X Ema.

To summarize the important parts, Apollo hears about a recent murder but no arrests have been made yet. He does a brief investigation (but Ema won't let him on the crime scene) and at the end of the investigation, Apollo meets with Ema... who reluctantly arrests him. After the first day of court, Ema offers to do his investigation because he's stuck in the detention centre.

That actually sounds like it'd be a worthwhile case to play. You should find a way to incorporate that into a form of documentation.

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:13 pm

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I think Apollo is a great character and I think that he simply needs a little more time to be liked by everyone.
Well because I mean Phoenix is a char we all know good but Apollo just had ONE game!!!
So please beloved Apollo haters have more PATIENCE
Additionally I gotta say:Bicycles FTW!!!

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:57 am

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Why a lot of ppl didnt love Polly?

He´s not Feenie, but he got all his moments in the game.

Well have two wait 2 more games, and then everybody see that Apollo rox too!

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:05 am

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Well I think a lot of people said that Apollo is dumb and that he has nt THAT much deepness like Phoenix.
But u can´t compare phoenix and Apollo!!!That´s not fair!!
You can´t either compare Trucy and Maya!!
IT´S NO FAIR!!!

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:41 am

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Technically, you can compare Apollo to Phoenix. You can only compare him to Phoenix's performance in AA, though. I say Apollo did better. All Phoenix did in his first 2 cases was identify and expose lies, he didn't really have to do anything else. Apollo did that in his first case as well (until Phoenix stepped in), but IMO his performance was superior in that regard. In Apollo's second case onward, he definitely shows his skill. I was stumped on what to present on Alita's second perceive (I thought the red splotch was paint), and Apollo figured it out in a matter of seconds. He really shows skill in 4-3, saying that Lamiroir heard the crime from the air vent. And in 4-4... he did something Phoenix hadn't done at that point in his career.

He identified a fake clue... with almost nothing to go on.

Sure, Phoenix identified fake clues in 2-4, 3-2 and of course 3-3, but he had more evidence to suggest they were fake (plus he had more experience by this point). I respect Phoenix's performance in 1-3 and 1-4, but IMO Apollo did better. Plus he had Mia to help him while he was doing DL-6.

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:42 am

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OK,I think u can cpompare 1-1 and 4-1.
But I still think it´s sad that some people compare :phoenix:

and

and they do it NOT like u.THAT´S the sad thing . . .

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:04 am

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Little thought that popped into my head.

GS1: :phoenix:

Help me Mia, I can't face von Karma without you.
GS2: :phoenix:

Help me Mia, I can't go prove Matt is the killer without your moral support.
GS3: :phoenix:

Helo me Mia, I still can't solve filler cases without your help.
GS4: :odoroki:

Umm...Mr. Wright, just so you know, I can do this by myself. You don't need to help me against Payne. Oh it's for your revenge...oh fine go ahead.

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:39 am

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neoswordmaster wrote:

Little thought that popped into my head.

GS1: :phoenix:

Help me Mia, I can't face von Karma without you.
GS2: :phoenix:

Help me Mia, I can't go prove Matt is the killer without your moral support.
GS3: :phoenix:

Helo me Mia, I still can't solve filler cases without your help.
GS4: :odoroki:

Umm...Mr. Wright, just so you know, I can do this by myself. You don't need to help me against Payne. Oh it's for your revenge...oh fine go ahead.

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:49 am

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R.M. wrote:

neoswordmaster wrote:

Little thought that popped into my head.

GS1: :phoenix:

Help me Mia, I can't face von Karma without you.
GS2: :phoenix:

Help me Mia, I can't go prove Matt is the killer without your moral support.
GS3: :phoenix:

Helo me Mia, I still can't solve filler cases without your help.
GS4: :odoroki:

Umm...Mr. Wright, just so you know, I can do this by myself. You don't need to help me against Payne. Oh it's for your revenge...oh fine go ahead.

Seconded

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:13 pm

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What can I say other than thirded, fourthed, fifthed, sixthed....

...forty three billion seven hundred and six million two hundred and eighty nine thousand nine hundred and fifteenthed, etc.

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:17 pm

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GigaHand wrote:

What can I say other than thirded, fourthed, fifthed, sixthed....

...forty three billion seven hundred and six million two hundred and eighty nine thousand nine hundred and fifteenthed, etc.

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:21 am

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neoswordmaster wrote:

Little thought that popped into my head.

GS1: :phoenix:

Help me Mia, I can't face von Karma without you.
GS2: :phoenix:

Help me Mia, I can't go prove Matt is the killer without your moral support.
GS3: :phoenix:

Helo me Mia, I still can't solve filler cases without your help.
GS4: :odoroki:

Umm...Mr. Wright, just so you know, I can do this by myself. You don't need to help me against Payne. Oh it's for your revenge...oh fine go ahead.

Ha, that made me laugh. :gant:

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:39 am

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ApollaJustice wrote:

neoswordmaster wrote:

Little thought that popped into my head.

GS1: :phoenix:

Help me Mia, I can't face von Karma without you.
GS2: :phoenix:

Help me Mia, I can't go prove Matt is the killer without your moral support.
GS3: :phoenix:

Helo me Mia, I still can't solve filler cases without your help.
GS4: :odoroki:

Umm...Mr. Wright, just so you know, I can do this by myself. You don't need to help me against Payne. Oh it's for your revenge...oh fine go ahead.

Ha, that made me laugh. :gant:

Except for 4-2 where Trucy had to prove the location of the killer in the homicide.

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:14 am

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Platinum Skye wrote:

Except for 4-2 where Trucy had to prove the location of the killer in the homicide.

Klavier didn't notice the contradiction either. If he did he would have piped up immediately. It was an easy point to miss, IMO.

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:21 am

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GigaHand wrote:

Platinum Skye wrote:

Except for 4-2 where Trucy had to prove the location of the killer in the homicide.

Klavier didn't notice the contradiction either. If he did he would have piped up immediately. It was an easy point to miss, IMO.

So perhaps if Apollo becomes unavailable before a trial, Trucy should subsutite?

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:33 pm

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Platinum Skye wrote:

GigaHand wrote:

Platinum Skye wrote:

Except for 4-2 where Trucy had to prove the location of the killer in the homicide.

Klavier didn't notice the contradiction either. If he did he would have piped up immediately. It was an easy point to miss, IMO.

So perhaps if Apollo becomes unavailable before a trial, Trucy should subsutite?

Trucy figured it earlier than Apollo (and EVEN earlier than Klavier)
But I tjink it´s because Phoenix is her father so she learnend a little
:object:

Phoenix´d never thaught Trucy skills because he wants that she grows up how she wants
:objection:

He always said:U´ll be fine if Trucy is with you!
:omg:

That´s my inner conflict RIGHTNOW!

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:14 pm

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Coffee Prosecutor wrote:

Trucy figured it earlier than Apollo (and EVEN earlier than Klavier)
But I tjink it´s because Phoenix is her father so she learnend a little
:object:

Phoenix´d never thaught Trucy skills because he wants that she grows up how she wants
:objection:

He always said:U´ll be fine if Trucy is with you!

That was in reference to perceiving!

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:08 am

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Kristoph: Your objections are overuled. The matter of Trucy having to prove the location of the killer is irrelivant. This is an Apollo Justice Appreciation thread. If you'd like to debate something that has to do with Apollo try the fact about how some people are actually thinking that I could be Apollo's adoptive father.

The term Apollo Justice Appreciation could refer to the game Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney or the main character himself! Gentlemen you may continue. Oh and yes I'm the one who was thinking about the whole Kristoph could be Apollo's adoptive father. Here's my theory from the Kristoph thread and since it's about Apollo Justice's past then it's on topic :D

how_objectionable33 wrote:

Thank you. So I was thinking that maybe when Apollo was going to become a lawyer you know like sometime when he's 18 or so and just graduating high school or maybe when he is in high school Kristoph notices Apollo's gift (aka the Precieve ability) and agrees to train him to be a lawyer. And if Apollo was still in high school he'd have to have a legal guardian. So Kristoph would have had to get those documents approved and he probably had respect for Apollo so he had let Apollo keep his last name (or he could just be Kristoph's ward.) even though, technecally Apollo Justice would be Apollo Gavin. Either way Kristoph would have probably let Apollo stay with him while Klavier was still in Europe. Then as time passed Kristoph and Apollo's bond became stronger in a father son way. With that said and done he begins to prepare Apollo for the bar exam. When he passes Kristoph allows him to work with him at the Gavin Law Offices.

Spoiler: When does he find out?

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:33 pm

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ONE WORD:

This is stuff for a fanfic (Well I don´t read fanfics)But THAT is great stuff , regarding the matter Apollo can´t see psyche locks (sorry if I understood it wrong)
But I like the idea :javado:

is

´s father better :yogi:

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:39 am

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I can name several reasons as to why :javado:

can't be Apollo's father.
1. He isn't a preformer
2. He never died on stage.
3. His last name isn't Justice.
4. There doesn't seem to be any hint of Apollo getting :javado:

traits.

Now if he was :javado:

ward I don't see how that could happen because...

Spoiler:

Thank you for the complement on the idea though. I might type it up when I have time and get some inspiration. Maybe if I get some people to help me with it then I'll for sure type up Apollo and Kristoph's past. I'll add some fluff to it as well. So yeah I just need help with Apollo's fic, as well as a title. And as for the psyche-locks they'll be broken unknowingly. Like when Phoenix asks Kristoph again he'll only say "I confessed to Justice." And since it has a double meaning and Kristoph isn't lying then Phoenix will be comfused, thus leading Apollo to explain later on.

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Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:58 pm

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how_objectionable33 wrote:

Thank you. So I was thinking that maybe when Apollo was going to become a lawyer you know like sometime when he's 18 or so and just graduating high school or maybe when he is in high school Kristoph notices Apollo's gift (aka the Precieve ability) and agrees to train him to be a lawyer.

But we already know from 4-1 that Kristoph never knew about Apollo's Perceive ability, and didn't even seem to understand it by 4-4. Since Apollo himself was never fully aware of it until Phoenix and then Trucy explained it to him, I don't think it's possible that Apollo's Perceive ability had anything to do with how he ended up at Gavin Law.

It's simpler and makes more sense just to say that Apollo had an interest in law from a young age and Kristoph admired him for that.

I like the idea of Kristoph being Apollo's legal guardian if only for a short time, but it doesn't seem likely, since Apollo didn't know some very important facts about him (like the fact that he has a famous brother who's a prosecutor! That's the sort of thing that ought to come up if you're living with someone).

But it is possible that maybe Kristoph helped him through law school, by cosigning a student loan or rsomething. It seems clear that whatever the case Kristoph was genuinely fond of him (at least at first!).

Re: Apollo Appreciation Thread! (may contain spoilers)

Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:39 am

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For some reason, I always see Apollo as living in a school with dorms, instead of with anyone as a child/teen. Also, it seems like he's a little awkward socially; but, then again, one game isn't all that much to go on as far as he interacts. I just hope he's the same Apollo in his next game. :odoroki:

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Sister of Miyako Chinatsu and Slezak.
Thanks to Nadindi for my avatar!