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Edgeworth in 2 mentions the Dekillers lasting back to about 100 years, so it would make sense for a Dekiller to show up.
I say we take it a step further: Ryuu vs Dekiller in a sword fight
And then the Steel Samurai has to rescue him.
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Edgeworth in 2 mentions the Dekillers lasting back to about 100 years, so it would make sense for a Dekiller to show up.
I say we take it a step further: Ryuu vs Dekiller in a sword fight
And then the Steel Samurai has to rescue him.
It'd be great if the Steel Samurai turned out to be based on some kind of myth that did show up around the Meido-era.
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And for the Pursuit theme, we might get something like "追求〜追いつめたくて" (Pursuit ~ Wanting to Corner)
It almost sounds desperate. So is this the precursor to "Pursuit ~ Cornered"? Oh, but it's more like a reverse of it, actually...
I almost want to see an imperative variation of "Cornered" now... 追求〜追いつめりたまえ！ It gives you a sense of authority to control when the cornering actually takes place... or something.
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
It almost sounds desperate. So is this the precursor to "Pursuit ~ Cornered"? Oh, but it's more like a reverse of it, actually...
"Precursor" being the key word here, huh?
Also, who's bet on that this game will be localized as Amazing Ace Attorney, just to keep the A's? It sounds so cheesy I can't handle this...
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Also, who's bet on that this game will be localized as Amazing Ace Attorney, just to keep the A's? It sounds so cheesy I can't handle this...
I prefer "Awesome Attorney" myself, but it's probably not going to be like that...
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
I almost want to see an imperative variation of "Cornered" now... 追求〜追いつめりたまえ！ It gives you a sense of authority to control when the cornering actually takes place... or something.
Considering it's a Takumi Shuu directed game, it would probably be written as ～追い詰めタマヘ. キミタチ、ヤメタマヘ！
I hope they go the way of ~Casting Magic though, with a more context-sensitive version of the title. ~首を斬り落として >_>
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Ash wrote:
Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
I almost want to see an imperative variation of "Cornered" now... 追求〜追いつめりたまえ！ It gives you a sense of authority to control when the cornering actually takes place... or something.
Considering it's a Takumi Shuu directed game, it would probably be written as ～追い詰めタマヘ. キミタチ、ヤメタマヘ！
Aaaash... what idea did you just put in my head...
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Considering Kyousaku was a pretty internationally oriented student and constantly comparing aspects of Japan to foreign countries, I could actually see (a version of) him appearing as one of the returning members of the Iwakura mission.
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Pierre wrote:
So far all we know is that the protagonist is Phoenix's ancestor and he has a rather cute but still somewhat sensible-looking assistant who is not confirmed to be anyone's ancestor yet. Though given this is set in Japan it wouldn't surprise me at all if she turned out to be a spirit medium or the progenitor of the Kurain family.
fixed. (It would be an incredible turnabout if he's grandson went back to the past to make the Meiji Era follow his grandpappy's law style, thus the set up for DGS2)
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Also on my mind: The Prosecutor will be an English "Sherlock Holmes" type detective who smokes a pipe and rants on about how 'behind the times' Japan is.
J00 took my idea 
Although, this is totally probable.The first prosecutor could constantly warn the characters to be more modern, as a reference to why Japan modernized in the first place, the detective could be an oppressor of the modernization but no one cares
EDIT: I just realized the first prosecutor would better fit the anti modernization, and the detective could be afraid the main prosecutor, and act and live modernly because of fear, and every once in a while talk about not wanting to be modern, only to snap back to praising it to avoid his bosses paycheck cut. The end can have him learn to accept it though.
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Ash wrote:
「ワタクシはただ、その《パンツの謎》を解明したかっただけなのです！」
Considering Kyousaku was a pretty internationally oriented student and constantly comparing aspects of Japan to foreign countries, I could actually see (a version of) him appearing as one of the returning members of the Iwakura mission.
Considering Kyousaku was a pretty internationally oriented student and constantly comparing aspects of Japan to foreign countries, I could actually see (a version of) him appearing as one of the returning members of the Iwakura mission.
He's probably mistaken for a pervert too at some point.
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The first prosecutor could constantly warn the characters to be more modern, as a reference to why Japan modernized in the first place, the detective could be an oppressor of the modernization but no one cares,and the game could be made from paper and wood, a scroll that you turn and twist to play.
Eh, if anything, the first prosecutor will be a Payne-lookalike who follows traditions, not argues against them. If we expect Ryuunosuke to be the founder of the turnabout (and other things we now associate with lawyers), then we should expect that he's the one who leans more toward modernization. But if the main prosecutor is someone who supports the Iwakura Mission, I could see him taking a different stance than the norm.
Modernization didn't come that easily anyway. The returning members of that mission sometimes crossed authoritative boundaries during their quest to transform Japan, and the Restoration lasted for the entirety of the period.
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
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「ワタクシはただ、その《パンツの謎》を解明したかっただけなのです！」
Considering Kyousaku was a pretty internationally oriented student and constantly comparing aspects of Japan to foreign countries, I could actually see (a version of) him appearing as one of the returning members of the Iwakura mission.
Considering Kyousaku was a pretty internationally oriented student and constantly comparing aspects of Japan to foreign countries, I could actually see (a version of) him appearing as one of the returning members of the Iwakura mission.
He's probably mistaken for a pervert too at some point.
SparioEndernerd wrote:
The first prosecutor could constantly warn the characters to be more modern, as a reference to why Japan modernized in the first place, the detective could be an oppressor of the modernization but no one cares,and the game could be made from paper and wood, a scroll that you turn and twist to play.
Eh, if anything, the first prosecutor will be a Payne-lookalike who follows traditions, not argues against them. If we expect Ryuunosuke to be the founder of the turnabout (and other things we now associate with lawyers), then we should expect that he's the one who leans more toward modernization. But if the main prosecutor is someone who supports the Iwakura Mission, I could see him taking a different stance than the norm.
Modernization didn't come that easily anyway. The returning members of that mission sometimes crossed authoritative boundaries during their quest to transform Japan, and the Restoration lasted for the entirety of the period.
I was referring to the Boxer Rebellion in China, and how people of Japan would be more reluctant to fight the western influence. I later revised my idea, and decided that the detective would be better suited as someone who fought in the rebellion, he could have been a detective and realized it was better to leave the violence and move to Japan, where he meets the mid game (Edgeworth level) prosecutor, who constantly bashes him for opposing modernization. Eventually (before he is in the story) he can force a love for new technologies and hide his hate for it in a Psych-lock, amusing that the mechanic returns.
I also think since the game is called Dai Gyakuten Saiban, (The Great Turnabout Trial) that would indicate that Ryuunosuke would be for modernization, because he see's it's potential for solving the crimes, much like Phoenix in AA5 with the mood matrix. The Naruhodou family line could always teach their children to be open to new ideas. On the other hand Ryu could be stubborn at first but latter decide to make sure his future generations are more open. Honestly it could go either way, and only time will tell.
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I personally find it odd that you'd bring up the Boxer Rebellion. Though we don't know what year this game takes place in, if the theme is about modernization, I wouldn't expect it to be in the latest stages of the Restoration. It would also be a time when the concept of "lawyers" was beginning to become a thing.
Besides, my hunch tells me China or Zheng Fa or whatnot will be making it into the game. I would like to see a Chinese character at least present in a case, though. The Chinese population in Japan at the time was pretty impressive, since they weren't barred from Japan's closed country policy during Edo. Well, it's just blind hope on my part.
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It may just be because of the music, but I can also expect a Laytonesque mood to this game. There's an indescribable sense of refined elegance waiting in the shadows... but I hope we aren't going to uncover any buried ruins this time around.
Thinking about it, I'd love to see how festive the streets can become around Bon in this Meiji style. The delicious treats are already making my mouth water... (^q^)
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It may just be because of the music, but I can also expect a Laytonesque mood to this game. There's an indescribable sense of refined elegance waiting in the shadows... but I hope we aren't going to uncover any buried ruins this time around
I think that's one of the reasons I feel more of a detective-vibe from Taisho than Meiji. With Meiji, I think controlled efforts at creating an uniform country/culture and foreign influences -> 'higher level crimes'. With Taisho/early Showa, I think of mass culture and ero-guro-nonsense -> 'lower level crimes'. I recently played Detective Conan: Phantom Rhapsody (3DS), which was set in a Taisho period theme park, and I think they hit the nail when the people behind the project explained why they invited detectives for the opening ceremony: detectives fit the Taisho image.
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Thinking about it, I'd love to see how festive the streets can become around Bon in this Meiji style. The delicious treats are already making my mouth water... (^q^)
That reminds me, Hakata Tonkotsu ramen wouldn't be invented/accidently made until... early Showa. And while I know less about Sapporo Miso ramen, I'm pretty sure that Mayoi's favorite food was also invited fairly late, maybe even after WWII. (Yes, I have random knowledge about random things. Incidently, one of the best read posts on my blog on detective fiction is, a blog solely about ramen restaurants).
Ah, I long for tonkotsu ramen. Or maybe Jirou ramen.
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With Meiji, I think controlled efforts at creating an uniform country/culture and foreign influences -> 'higher level crimes'.
This only whets my appetite for plot conspiracies done right! (It also warrants the sword. Good thing he has some way to defend himself so he's not always being stalked by some detective who has to rescue him. Then again, it's probably going to happen at some point anyway.) As much as I inclined toward GS5's movement for bigger, badder crimes, it wasn't presented in the smoothest way... down right abrupt and out of the blue, really.
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That reminds me, Hakata Tonkotsu ramen wouldn't be invented/accidently made until... early Showa. And while I know less about Sapporo Miso ramen, I'm pretty sure that Mayoi's favorite food was also invited fairly late, maybe even after WWII. (Yes, I have random knowledge about random things. Incidently, one of the best read posts on my blog on detective fiction is, a blog solely about ramen restaurants).
Ah, I long for tonkotsu ramen. Or maybe Jirou ramen.
Ah, I long for tonkotsu ramen. Or maybe Jirou ramen.
*gasp* What will they eat then!?
Ah, that post. It's popular for good reason. ^σ^
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That reminds me, Hakata Tonkotsu ramen wouldn't be invented/accidently made until... early Showa. And while I know less about Sapporo Miso ramen, I'm pretty sure that Mayoi's favorite food was also invited fairly late, maybe even after WWII. (Yes, I have random knowledge about random things. Incidently, one of the best read posts on my blog on detective fiction is, a blog solely about ramen restaurants).
Ah, I long for tonkotsu ramen. Or maybe Jirou ramen.
Ah, I long for tonkotsu ramen. Or maybe Jirou ramen.
*gasp* What will they eat then!?
Copious amounts of meat. People like to talk about foreign influences at all, but few people know there was a taboo in meat(beef)-eating in Japan until late Edo/early Meiji (meat was more used for medicinal uses), which only changed because of Western influence. In fact, it was the Meiji government who was behind meat eating propagation.[/eeeeeeextremely random information]
I can see Susato all in the meat fad, whille Naruhodou isn't sure yet. Though, maybe Naruhodou's the more progressive one. He's already using boku, a personal pronoun which only started to be used as one in late Edo/early Meiji period.
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Ah, that post. It's popular for good reason. ^σ^
Considering I only wrote that post as an extra, I sometimes wonder whether I shouldn't have started a food blog... =_=
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That reminds me, Hakata Tonkotsu ramen wouldn't be invented/accidently made until... early Showa. And while I know less about Sapporo Miso ramen, I'm pretty sure that Mayoi's favorite food was also invited fairly late, maybe even after WWII. (Yes, I have random knowledge about random things. Incidently, one of the best read posts on my blog on detective fiction is, a blog solely about ramen restaurants).
Ah, I long for tonkotsu ramen. Or maybe Jirou ramen.
Ah, I long for tonkotsu ramen. Or maybe Jirou ramen.
*gasp* What will they eat then!?
Copious amounts of meat. People like to talk about foreign influences at all, but few people know there was a taboo in meat(beef)-eating in Japan until late Edo/early Meiji (meat was more used for medicinal uses), which only changed because of Western influence. In fact, it was the Meiji government who was behind meat eating propagation.[/eeeeeeextremely random information]
I can see Susato all in the meat fad, whille Naruhodou isn't sure yet. Though, maybe Naruhodou's the more progressive one. He's already using boku, a personal pronoun which only started to be used as one in late Edo/early Meiji period.
Don't be silly. Knowing what these characters eat is one of the most important pieces of trivia we could know of. After all, if we expect the judge to be Udgey's ancestor (read "grandfather"), we should expect him to be easily bribed with food.
Oh, boy. We're going to have yet another big eater as an assistant, aren't we? In all fairness, though, it's funnier with Susato because she's supposed to be a refined person. The big question is, though, which of the two will be paying for meals?
Although I think the 'boku' bit about him is more characteristic of a mirrored character design than anything else, I can see him as quite the progressive guy nonetheless. If he's the "founder" of the turnabout, we'll expect to see more than just wacky shenanigans; but also a gradually improving repute for bengoshi - perhaps with a start a earlier than what our history has dictated.
I did a little research on my own about the history behind the title. They weren't officially established until the Attorney's Law of 1893, right? At the time, the Ministry of Justice was also in charge of everything for apprentices down to their stipends. As of this point, Ryuu doesn't seem to actually be a proper bengoshi yet, so...
...I think I just answered my own question. Welp, Susato, maybe you'll be paying for the food for once.
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Susato will be a Holmes fan. Calling it now.
As far as a a DGS localisation will go, I'm actually really hoping they keep it in Japan. With Japanese names, even. It's not like it wouldn't make sense: they could just say that certain families (depending on who shows up) changed their names upon immigration toJapanifornia America. Alternately, Japanese given names and Western family names. Ryuunosuke Wright sounds really cool....
As far as a a DGS localisation will go, I'm actually really hoping they keep it in Japan. With Japanese names, even. It's not like it wouldn't make sense: they could just say that certain families (depending on who shows up) changed their names upon immigration to
The biggest problem with keeping the Japanese names will revolve around the puns. One way or another, they'll be lost in translation. I do hope they'll be able to come up with a lot of new names that sound Japanese, but have English puns. (Take Victor "Kudo" for example.) It shows more effort than simply shortening everyone's names, even if it may be inevitable. And it'll probably be "Ryu Wright", or if they're going to stick with Greek-based names, "Drakon (Drake) Wright".
...In fact, I'm surprised no one has yet to bring up "Drake". I mean, we keep calling him Ryuu.
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I'm just hoping it doesn't end up being Meiji-era LA.
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Ironically, I see Ryuu as a more hyperactive guy than Nick. Perhaps it's because he's younger?
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Speaking of Susato, does anyone else see it as a given that she'll hook up with Ryuu...?
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I hope she has a paper fan in her purse that she brings along everywhere. She can swat people with it as a secondary utility.
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If Ryuu's going to stand for the progressive movement toward Westernization, I'd like the main prosecutor to parallel that. What we don't want between them is a conflict so strong that the prosecutor would end up becoming a villain. We leave that sort of conflict to the actual villains. Let them both strive for progress, but achieve it through differing ideals instead. Perhaps one will prefer to "go all out" with westernization, while the other will want to remain conservative on some things. Or, perhaps it's as straightforward as proving the usefulness of bengoshi at a time when they were absolutely detested for being wastes of people's time and money. It was even worse during this time period than it is now because the concept of people defending other people had a long history of shame and bad rumors.
For another, Ryuu will be constantly mocked as an ignorant pipsqueak who's way over his head in dealing with "filth". If we can mock Phoenix as a dork for acting as a destined superhero, we can mock this guy all the same.
Let the battles in court rage on with more biting words. I want this court to both be civil and yet ferocious.
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And something soooooorta related with the above, I want a case that deals with (artificial) light (the installation of gas lights on the streets for example). And photographs.
(And this brings me back to those classes of the history of mass media I took at Kyoto University. It's always hard to follow courses in foreign languages early in the morning...Still not sure how I passed the exam)
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I'm kinda bummed that GS5 already featured a ghost story, because I think they might have fitted the 'less rational' Meiji period better. I do silently hope for a trick played by Takumi on the player himself, by anticipating the expectations and ideas of our 'modern mindsets' and playing them off against the past setting. Kinda hard to explain w/o going into spoilery territory / given specific examples, but GS5-2 already had hints of that, but it's also central to one of Awasaka Tsumao's better known stories (which Takumi is known to have read).
And I want a case set in a wooden mansion. There must be something interesting that can be done with a building made out of wood, I'm convinced.
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Everybody is all out of ideas?
I'm kinda bummed that GS5 already featured a ghost story, because I think they might have fitted the 'less rational' Meiji period better. I do silently hope for a trick played by Takumi on the player himself, by anticipating the expectations and ideas of our 'modern mindsets' and playing them off against the past setting. Kinda hard to explain w/o going into spoilery territory / given specific examples, but GS5-2 already had hints of that, but it's also central to one of Awasaka Tsumao's better known stories (which Takumi is known to have read).
And I want a case set in a wooden mansion. There must be something interesting that can be done with a building made out of wood, I'm convinced.
I'm kinda bummed that GS5 already featured a ghost story, because I think they might have fitted the 'less rational' Meiji period better. I do silently hope for a trick played by Takumi on the player himself, by anticipating the expectations and ideas of our 'modern mindsets' and playing them off against the past setting. Kinda hard to explain w/o going into spoilery territory / given specific examples, but GS5-2 already had hints of that, but it's also central to one of Awasaka Tsumao's better known stories (which Takumi is known to have read).
And I want a case set in a wooden mansion. There must be something interesting that can be done with a building made out of wood, I'm convinced.
Well, GS5 wasn't written by Takumi, so the chance is still there. Besides, in a game like this, there just has to be some sort of ghost story, with maybe a touch of horror for some thrills. I can't wait to hear Suspense 2015 (or whenever it's coming out).
All in all, I just really hope that dog in that one picture turns out to be a major character. We can call him Cannon 'cause his barks are like bellows. He'll be a veteran police dog, with a scar on an ear or something, and won't take things for granted until he sniffs them out himself.
Excuse me... Conversations with me usually turn up something about dogs. I can never seem to stop talking about them.
A wooden mansion... it'll either blow up into flames at one point or it'll be a deathtrap of hidden weaponry. Shamefully, I can't imagine it as anything else but a house of death. This makes good material for a ghost story.
And yet, I firmly believe Susato will enjoy torturing Ryuu with ghost stories as they investigate what is pretty much a haunted house. She won't be in his face with it, but it's the whisper from behind that creeps him out the most. (Geez, what kind of girl do I really think of her as? Even I don't know.)
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Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
All in all, I just really hope that dog in that one picture turns out to be a major character. We can call him Cannon 'cause his barks are like bellows. He'll be a veteran police dog, with a scar on an ear or something, and won't take things for granted until he sniffs them out himself. And he'll have his own theme.
Excuse me... Conversations with me usually turn up something about dogs. I can never seem to stop talking about them.
Excuse me... Conversations with me usually turn up something about dogs. I can never seem to stop talking about them.
Did a little bit of reading up, and dogs only started to be kept as pets in Meiji. And that was mostly as part of Westernization. Ever since Edo, stray dogs were killed out of fear of rabies (the same holds for Meiji, but they at least added the distinction between stray dogs and pets). Police/army dogs were also first introduced in Meiji, but they didn't seem to be big success.
Susato/Ryuunosuke adopting a stray dog to save it from death plot?
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A wooden mansion... it'll either blow up into flames at one point or it'll be a deathtrap of hidden weaponry. Shamefully, I can't imagine it as anything else but a house of death. This makes good material for a ghost story.
And yet, I firmly believe Susato will enjoy torturing Ryuu with ghost stories as they investigate what is pretty much a haunted house. She won't be in his face with it, but it's the whisper from behind that creeps him out the most. (Geez, what kind of girl do I really think of her as? Even I don't know.)
And yet, I firmly believe Susato will enjoy torturing Ryuu with ghost stories as they investigate what is pretty much a haunted house. She won't be in his face with it, but it's the whisper from behind that creeps him out the most. (Geez, what kind of girl do I really think of her as? Even I don't know.)
Well, a wooden building is as 'concrete' as a concrete building, so you could do something with the fact you could easily deconstruct/reconstruct parts of the building, the holes in the woodwork, the less than perfect connections between sections... And indeed, set in on fire.
Oh, and this is Edo technology, but what the heck. A wooden mansion full of mechanical dolls would be cool too! Would definitely work with a ghost story.
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Ash wrote:
Rubia Ryu the Royal wrote:
All in all, I just really hope that dog in that one picture turns out to be a major character. We can call him Cannon 'cause his barks are like bellows. He'll be a veteran police dog, with a scar on an ear or something, and won't take things for granted until he sniffs them out himself. And he'll have his own theme.
Excuse me... Conversations with me usually turn up something about dogs. I can never seem to stop talking about them.
Excuse me... Conversations with me usually turn up something about dogs. I can never seem to stop talking about them.
Did a little bit of reading up, and dogs only started to be kept as pets in Meiji. And that was mostly as part of Westernization. Ever since Edo, stray dogs were killed out of fear of rabies (the same holds for Meiji, but they at least added the distinction between stray dogs and pets). Police/army dogs were also first introduced in Meiji, but they didn't seem to be big success.
Well then, I hope Takumi "happens to" skip over this historical fact and just say dogs are part of the PD's lifeblood, as we all would be familiar with these days.
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Susato/Ryuunosuke adopting a stray dog to save it from death plot? And the game ends with both of them bitten and dying of rabies.
That's the bad ending. Yes. I'm serious. I would buy this game just because of the dog. (And since it's Takumi we're talking about, I'm sure this dog will be the best character anyway.)
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A wooden mansion... it'll either blow up into flames at one point or it'll be a deathtrap of hidden weaponry. Shamefully, I can't imagine it as anything else but a house of death. This makes good material for a ghost story.
And yet, I firmly believe Susato will enjoy torturing Ryuu with ghost stories as they investigate what is pretty much a haunted house. She won't be in his face with it, but it's the whisper from behind that creeps him out the most. (Geez, what kind of girl do I really think of her as? Even I don't know.)
And yet, I firmly believe Susato will enjoy torturing Ryuu with ghost stories as they investigate what is pretty much a haunted house. She won't be in his face with it, but it's the whisper from behind that creeps him out the most. (Geez, what kind of girl do I really think of her as? Even I don't know.)
Well, a wooden building is as 'concrete' as a concrete building, so you could do something with the fact you could easily deconstruct/reconstruct parts of the building, the holes in the woodwork, the less than perfect connections between sections... And indeed, set in on fire.
Hey, it's the perfect way to hide or remove evidence, or even replace evidence at the scene! I wonder if we could find superfluous evidence that doesn't seem to impact the case "as much". That is, it's evidence of the crime, but there are other pieces of evidence that would make a more convincing argument if they were presented instead. It'd work out as a new mechanic, in a sense, and possibly frustrate players more during trials, but whatever, we need a challenging game after these pretty darn easy ones lately.
If we don't have the freedom to make our arguments in a case, then at least let us have the freedom to differentiate between what would make a suitable argument and what would make a strong one, rather than follow a set course of what needs to be presented at when. It'd be the best update to the cross-examination mechanic in a long time.
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Oh, and this is Edo technology, but what the heck. A wooden mansion full of mechanical dolls would be cool too! Would definitely work with a ghost story.
That is beautiful. In fact, there could be a museum featured in this game. We'd be set in the past, looking at stuff from an even older past. Let's see... there was a term for that, right? What was it...?
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Hey, it's the perfect way to hide or remove evidence, or even replace evidence at the scene! I wonder if we could find superfluous evidence that doesn't seem to impact the case "as much". That is, it's evidence of the crime, but there are other pieces of evidence that would make a more convincing argument if they were presented instead. It'd work out as a new mechanic, in a sense, and possibly frustrate players more during trials, but whatever, we need a challenging game after these pretty darn easy ones lately.
If we don't have the freedom to make our arguments in a case, then at least let us have the freedom to differentiate between what would make a suitable argument and what would make a strong one, rather than follow a set course of what needs to be presented at when. It'd be the best update to the cross-examination mechanic in a long time.
If we don't have the freedom to make our arguments in a case, then at least let us have the freedom to differentiate between what would make a suitable argument and what would make a strong one, rather than follow a set course of what needs to be presented at when. It'd be the best update to the cross-examination mechanic in a long time.
Superfluous evidence just as, is a very frustrating element, I think. I recently played Tantei Gakuen Q: Meitantei wa Kimi da! (GBA), which had superfluous evidence (and a system where you had to 'record' every piece of evidence yourself. Or miss it), but it was soooooo frustrating because you'd be saddled with a mountain of evidence, most of which related in some way to the crime, and then they'd just say, "these are the three hints for solving the crime" (-> player has to select them). And I was always like... So what do you want me to present now? Howdunnit? Whodunnit? Whydunnit?
They could do something like giving the player the freedom to choose which lines of reasoning they take, with the evidence sets changing depending on those lines... I.e., the courses and the answers to each part of the course would be set, but the evidence used in each course would differ. What would be a 'weak' argument/piece of evidence in the whodunnit course, might be a strong argument in the howdunnit course. (something like how evidence is sometimes reused in GS with different meanings)
Detective Conan: Phantom Rhapsody (3DS) did something sliiiiightly like that (you could choose your lines of reasoning, but you were forced to do all lines anyway). For GS, it might add some replay value if you could clear a chapter with any of the courses (instead of forcing you to do them all).
Would mean they would have to write mysteries that can be solved from multiple ways + witness segments for each course, but it would be cool...
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Susato will be a Holmes fan. Calling it now.
As far as a a DGS localisation will go, I'm actually really hoping they keep it in Japan. With Japanese names, even. It's not like it wouldn't make sense: they could just say that certain families (depending on who shows up) changed their names upon immigration toJapanifornia America. Alternately, Japanese given names and Western family names. Ryuunosuke Wright sounds really cool....
As far as a a DGS localisation will go, I'm actually really hoping they keep it in Japan. With Japanese names, even. It's not like it wouldn't make sense: they could just say that certain families (depending on who shows up) changed their names upon immigration to
I prefer Perseus Wright myself. Or even Draco. And for the name of the game, I got an idea:
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O R I G I N S
Perseus is just a placeholder.
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