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Re: Super Makoto (First Chapter in the works)Topic%20Title
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Oh hi thread. How are you?

Anyway with the release of Investigations, I took it upon myself to compile a list of small ideas for the characters present in this game. It's not particularly detailed, and it is definitely not anything set in stone. I just wanted to throw some ideas out there for the fun of it. We still have to hammer out things in the now with Makoto and friends.

but here is this list. Feel free to contribute better and more awesome ideas, kthnx. :keiko:

Spoiler: For all of Investigations pretty much
THE YATAGARASU GROUP
a faction opposing the smuggling ring. They use their knowledge and abilities to seek out members of the smuggling ring and expose them to the world for what they are OH NOES.

Yatagarasu Group is comprised of
-Byrne Faraday
*gets killed

-Callisto Yew/Shih-na
* a mole, gets found out (maybe replaced by her sister Cece?)

-Tyrell Badd
*works with Kay to avenge her father

-Kay Faraday
*the successor to Byrne when he is killed by Callisto who is a mole from the smuggling ring. DUN DUN DUN
*possibly a rival to Ema
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SMUGGLING RING!
General idea for the smuggling ring is that since they specialize in smuggling special artifacts and the whole counterfeit bills thing, Makoto is captured by a member due to her ability to replicate things perfectly with her powers. OH NO COUNTERFEITS.

Smuggling ring is comprised of
-Jacques Portsman
*super speed / accuracy
*capturer of Makoto?

-Cammy Meele
*sleeping and bubbles (FILLED WITH POISON!?!?)
*has knowledge of Borginian, a possible connection Machi
*possible interest in the Borginian Cocoon

-Callisto Yew/Shih-na
*shape shifting or multiple personality disorder?
*a mole in the Yatagarasu group

-Manny Coachen
*counterfeiting

-Quercus Alba
*leader of the ring
*has plant powers (possible connection Viola) His character design is based on a tree after all
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MORE MAFIA
Amano Group (connected to the Smuggling Ring)
-Ernest and Lance Amano
*Lance is in trouble with the Cadaverinis

the Devoraes
-Colin and Lauren Devorae
*Lauren's ring is poison ring
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OTHERS
-Shi-Long Lang (werewolf?)
-Rhoda Teneiro
-Zinc Leblanc (something to do with art... may be friends with Drew?)
-Colias Palaeno
Re: Super Makoto (First Chapter in the works)Topic%20Title
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MoronSonOfBoron wrote:
TIGER SNAKES RULE
In the tradition of lifting concepts from other series wholesale... Just a stupid idea, not something final. Tell me what you think! Add more to it, or cut it down.

Furio Tigre is the leader of a small gang known as the Tiger Snakes. (More like a posse or crew, their membership is less than half a dozen) Aside from being low-level thugs and loan sharks, they also take jobs from larger criminal organizations, namely active Mafia families like the Rivales and Cadaverini. In short, the Tiger Snakes are scum to the underbelly of society, with no strong ties to any particular faction. They get no respect, I tell ya!

Considering possible cohorts for Tigre, we should stick with minor criminal characters with little to no particular connection to others. It's possible to juxtapose Furio's sycophantic tough-guy attitude with more wimpy or serious characters.
Richard Wellington
Frank Sahwit
Yanni Yogi
Joe Darke

Oh my god I hadn't even seen this until now

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we need more references to EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE and Fallout is one of them

And Kiki: I would take a look at your ideas but I'm not COMPLETELY done with AAI yet :'D;;; I needed to wait until spring break/my costume and all my art commissions were done to play it, so I'm a bit behind~

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Here are my ideas for final designs for Makoto, Pearl and Trucy.

Spoiler: Pink Princess and Trumpcard
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The Pink Princess design is just a fine-tuning of the other design I did earlier with new foot wear.
Trumpcard design is just kind of a simplification of past designs... I thought the leg pouch thing was a nice touch.

Spoiler: Makoto
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Another fine-tuning of a previous design. The belt was simplified and the shoes are flats similar to the ones Makoto had when she was child which is what this costume was inspired by.

and an extra
Spoiler: Casual Pearl and Trucy
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Just a rough sketch of what Pearl and Trucy's casual clothes would look like.
Pearl-sporty and simple, the jacket says IVY across the chest
Trucy-inadvertently inspired by her mother, simple but still has hints of girlyness,


That's all for now!!
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This whole thread makes me feel Artistically inferior...Which I am. (Can only Draw Stick Figures...Bad Stick figures)

But I am blessed with ADHD and a overactive...Slightly crazy... mind. Though my thought rarely ever finish...ADHD you...

Hey, Pretty pictures.....

I mean... I think if you guys need I can make some fairly okay (Low Self esteem on these things) Versions of the AAI characters.

Though...From what I read last page you may not need to use AAI at all. Huh...

Other characters need help with a bit of fleshing out? Though...I'd need to read the Whole Mythos of this and remember it...

Spoiler: Short Demo? Contains AAI Spoilers, Teh Smuggling Ring Group...
So first, They'd need a better name...Though no better name comes to name. I suppose they could simply be known as the Smuggling Ring. Maybe they'll be known as The Ring. They smuggle your pricless artifacts, Organs, Human Slaves, Weapons, and if you pay enough they even smuggle you a Fake Hero or Villian to cause plenty of mayhem!

Jacques Portsman,
A great guy who can easily blend in with the crowd with his cheerful attitude and Love of sports. Thanks to some augmentations from The Ring he has super human strength which uses to cheat in sports and also to shut up those who wish to do harm or leave The Ring. He's not bellow killing his own partners to have fun or to shut them up. Theres a rumor going around that his favorite Basketball was also augmented by The Ring into a Super Weapon but it may just be a rumor.

Cammy Meele,
Cammy is one of The Rings special agents who go out in the field to search for potential targets or to stamp out threats. She has no super human powers unlike many of the other agents but she is a master of killing her targets in their sleep or making them look like they are sleeping. She also carries around a little bubble container full of Poison which she can blow bubbles from to either Permanently blind her attacker to to stealthy poison substances from afar.
Note, Have not fully finished up with hers.. I feel that something different can and should be done with her.

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With all the ties to organized crime and Interpol, the characters of AAI have a very rich history and personalities that can certainly be tapped for inspiration and expansion of Super Makoto. However, since they are largely very accessory to the original game's "main storyline", I imagine we can be very flexible with their roles in SMako, particularly in keeping with focusing more attention on our protagonist.

Speaking of whom, Kiki, I think you've just nailed the final designs for our girls!

We should also look into solidifying the following characters, as they are also part of Makoto's "inner circle":
  • Drew Ese - the caring father figure that seems strangely detached from Makoto's personal life (but knows her secrets!)
  • Wocky Kitaki - the mundane BFF/love interest
  • Sadistress/Kristoph Gavin - a constant antagonist and perennial villain; her selfish ways open Makoto's eyes to the evil in the world

I've been going back and forth with Kiki on Sadi for a while. We need to find a good balance of feminine and aggressive.

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Had some back and forth discussion with Kiki about Sadistress' design. I wanted to push away from the leotard we've had for a while and try something more complex or sophisticated to better mirror Kristoph Gavin, but it's also essential that her imagery remain sexual and powerful.

I'm obsessed with putting her in a coat of some sort, so I whipped up this assembly where she has a sleeveless coat with tails over a puffy half shirt and body suit, with leggings and boots. i tried to make Sadistress' body visibly thicker to give off a stronger, more imposing presence. She's one of the tallest characters, so she actually has a lot of leg to show off, and I wanted to take advantage of that. She's also the bustiest, so it's easy to get away with covering her chest more because at her size it would stand out anyways. The important part is using color contrast to make her assets "pop".

Here's a chart of some color variations.
Spoiler: This variant is my favorite.
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Re: Super Makoto (Dressing Kristoph Gavin)Topic%20Title
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While you were out, I uploaded PChat images from the past months into the Photobucket account. Here are some of the last pictures of 2009! :keiko: The 2010 folder is already being populated, so be sure to take a visit to the Photobucket and browse around.

IMPORTANT: If you have artwork you'd like to submit to the deviantART group, please do so through your own DA account. I can't ethically submit your artwork for you, even if it's exclusive to the DA group, as it will still show my account information as the uploader. Remember that if you choose to submit a piece of artwork exclusively to the group gallery, it won't show up in your normal account's gallery.



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Just some story notes I thought I'd share. In particular I wanted to establish Makoto's relationships to the other characters, and I thought that, maybe, we could introduce Apollo Justice earlier on as a sort of "Tuxedo Mask" type for her to idolize. And also, we could mirror Kristoph's relationship in the games by having Sadistress, not an older hero, tutor Makoto in the ways of superheros and villains because she wants to have a worthy rival.

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Makoto Ese is an artist working at Ivy High. She is a bit of a recluse and lives with her father, a painter. Almost all of her time is spent creating art or indulging in fantasy; she adores the superheros she observes in the news and society, and loves to recreate their adventures in her artwork. Despite her own power to create things through artwork, she has never considered becoming a superhero herself.

Why not? She has a superpower, ergo she's in the club, right?
  • She has little personal confidence and doesn't stand up for herself in front of other people.
  • She is shy and unsure of how to deal with the world outside her home. She would rather hide.
  • Her superpower appears to be of little real use or application; she considers it an embarassment and takes great pains to keep it a secret.
  • Makoto admires superheros because they represent the courage and adeptness that she lacks.
In particular, Makoto likes the bold and fiery Apollo Justice, a red-caped warrior that subdues villains and criminals with martial prowess and vocal volume.

Of note is her close friend Wocky Kitaki, who is not a superhero, for all his bravado. Perhaps his loud-mouthed trouble-seeking behavior is what endears him to Makoto.

Little does she know that her two good friends from Ivy High, Pearl Fey and Trucy Wright, are in fact superheros themselves (Pink Princess and Trumpcard)... and it's with their encouragement and help she becomes Super Makoto.

The first villain Super Makoto faces is Sadistress, who clearly outclasses Pink Princess and Trumpcard, but Super Makoto is able to thwart her. Enjoying the challenge, Sadistress takes a liking to Super Makoto and gives her a lecture about the world of superheros and villains, sort of taking her under her wing and hoping she becomes a great superhero.
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I started expanding on my story notes and thought it might be good to create more "big bad arcs" to further break up the storyline and create more opportunities for character development, not just for Makoto but also for the many side characters.

The first arc casts Dee Vasquez as the primary antagonist.

In this, Makoto is pushed into becoming a superhero by her friends Pearl and Trucy, but being insecure and unsure of herself she has no idea how to go about this properly. She tries emulating other heroes: Pearl, Trucy, her idol Apollo Justice, and even her friend Wocky (who seriously has no clue what he's doing). Pearl and Trucy are too young themselves to really understand heroism, so Makoto struggles against the minor villains they encounter (Guildmaster, Lucky, Hairaiser, etc). It's only after an encounter with the confident and clever Sadistress that Makoto gets an expert opinion on heroism, from a villain of all people! Seeking a worthy nemesis, Sadistress encourages Makoto to find her own path.

In other encounters, Sadistress also mocks Makoto's favorite hero, Apollo Justice, calling him a thug that doesn't understand heroism, despite his working with the Blue Badger and the law to bring criminals to justice. She also points out the character flaws in Pearl—using her anger to hide her vulnerability—and Trucy—letting her real life crumble as she pursues being a full-time superhero. They are both orphans, but deal with their abandonment issues and outsider status in different ways. Either Sadistress is very perceptive or she's been spying on the girls...

Eventually, the girls cross paths with Sadistress again when she infiltrates Ivy High in search of something; her investigation uncovers a magic seal that confounds her, and she convinces Makoto to try creating the key for it—this fails, as Makoto's artwork can only create replicas of what they represent, and not the "real thing." Apollo Justice shows up, and it just so happens that the magic seal can be opened using one of his Olympian Relics: Artemis' Golden Arrow*. Of course, once the seal is opened, Sadistress makes a grab for the treasure within: an ancient book of magic power.

Later, it turns out that Sadistress intends to sell the book to the Cadaverinis, as it is of historical (and practical) importance to them. Dee Vasquez orchestrates the exchange, keeping it from her niece and apprentice, Viola Cadaverini... This all turns into a treasure hunt for MacGuffins, as you can see: Dee Vasquez is acquiring magic treasures, employing other villains to do her dirty work for her, and is trying to keep them from Viola and her family. In the end, Makoto finally understands the importance of heroism is giving inspiration for others to pursue it; one has to realize their own potential for affecting other people's lives, and properly using the gifts they have been given. Enlightened, she now leads her friends, and though they cannot defeat the powerful Dee Vasquez by traditional means, she convinces Viola to reclaim her birthright and free herself from Dee's control.

Spoiler: *Artemis' Golden Arrow
Artemis is also known as Diana, a goddess commonly associated with witches. The Cadaverini are an ancient bloodline of witches. The Cadaverini artifacts are sealed by Diana's power. As Artemis, Diana's power is also shared with Olympian heroes, like Apollo Justice.

You can accuse me of shoehorning ViolApollo into the story but THIS TOTALLY MAKES SENSE COME ON GUYS.

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