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Re: Nekonohime's Sprites- 10/15/2010 *Sprite Fest*Topic%20Title
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lol thanks Megan-Chan! Did you like my other sprites too?
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Yeah! I've just started spriting, and I'm not that good! :sillytrucy:
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You can get better! You just have to practice lots and lots! I started out not that good, but I had several people give me lots of advice and it helps!
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You're right!
Speaking of advice, do you have any? :edgy:
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The best thing I can tell you is to observe what others do, and to experiment with various techniques on shading, outlining, etc. Spriting is basically a very trial and error based art.
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...Hopefully someday... xD

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Megan-Chan wrote:
Speaking of advice, do you have any? :edgy:

Ha-haa...! We all do :3
1. ALLWAYS notice the tips and tricks people give, no matter how small or bad those might be.
- Sometimes it may take time to master it and may have may results on yoir work for now,
but even so only fool would leave those unnoticed.
Just figure out what went wrong and be a winner

2. Try something new ad random
- You might accidentically create something that works, or you might find an easier way to something.
Worry nothing, since if there's problem, that's why the critic we give is for :3

Speaking of.
3. Take critic
- Though...The one that isn't made only of one sentence, like "U suck" -forget those and keep going like a steam boat!
There isn't many those kinda comments, since usually people tell what they think is wrong with the work.
Is it brushing the work, is it too big/small, etc.
Just remember to read everything and take notes.

4. Don't scare to scratch things
- Don't take me wrong when I say this, but last I check'd ya've done only recolors, 'ight?
Try to move higher by step by step slowly, no rush if it feels like that, and add some scratch things.
Like...Editing a cap on Apollo, making glowes to Adrian, etc.
Once ya feel like ya've getting hang of it; try to scratch a whole character.

5. Check other people work
- And when I say it, I don't mean that it's just a glance and then a reply.
More like, try to analyze the whole work. Let's take Ceres's Axel for example
Spoiler: Mind my small advertising >.>
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See?
Try to see what parts are from other sprites and what's from scratch.
The body is Apollo's objecting pose just mirrored other way around and then he added Klaviers coat on him and recolored both things.
Head is also Apollo's, from his normal pose if not mistaken ad hair is from Edgey.
In fact there isn't that many scrathed things at all, even though it looks like completely scratched.

Also try to see how you could use some parts, any parts, from allready existing characters to make it help your works.
I myself like to take a trip to past looking the topics from the older pages.

6. Practice
That's propably the most important thing.
Just practice, practice and practice some more and when the day is over you just keep practicing.
You don't need to post everything you do (actually it allways feels good to post some of your works you've hided from others :edgy: )
Just keep making ton of sprites and post the ones you've proud of...Meh...That's how I do anyway...

And lastly, a thing that has help'd me several times:
- Compare your older works with never ones and try to thnk what you'd do differntly in your works this time.
For me the first thing to notice was JPG -> PNG and so on.

Well...Hope these help a bit. :D
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Wow... lol this is almost turning into a sprite tutorial thread XD
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Meh...Just felt feel sto share :D
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That was very good advice, though. I felt like my older sprites were terrible compared to the ones I've done more recently. I started out just doing Frankensteining (Putting one character's head on another character's body) but then I started doing more original sprites, such as the ones I do with my OC Rosa Kitaki.
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More sprites! This time it's old sprites of Rosa remade to look better!

Spoiler: Lots Of Sprites
I put the old sprites next to the new ones for comparison. Oh, and the quotes are possible ones for when
she appears as her older self in my next fic.

Worried and/or Thinking

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"I-I... I'm not sure what you mean, Mr. Justice."

Wow, I can't believe how shoddy the old sprite looks. It looks like I put no effort into it at all compared to the new one, eh? I remember someone commented on it and said that the arm was fat. I definitely fixed that with the revision, as well as giving her the jacket she has now.

Old Sprite: Looking down, New Sprite: DAHLIA LEVELS OF EVIL.

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*sigh*

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"... What did you just say?!"

WOAH, talk about a HUGE change from the old sprite! Well, not much, except for the face. When I did the old sprite, I actually wanted to put the evil face on her, but I ended up doing the 'looking down' pose instead. When I got to this revision, I KNEW I wanted the evil face, since Rosa does have the evil death glare like her aunt, father and grandmother (Dahlia, Wocky and Morgan respectively). Also, the shading on the old sprite is garbage.

Annoyed

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"Hmph, I don't have time to sit around and babysit you girls all day! I have work to do!"

Not much of a change from the old sprite, other than the fox from her shirt is gone. And the fact the shading is ten times better. Rosa does this pose when she's obviously annoyed or being impatient with someone/something. It seems like Rosa always looks cute no matter what mood she's in :3 (Well, at least I think so anyway.)

Tearful

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"Oh, Mama, how could Grandma Morgan be so selfish to do such a thing like that to you... Just for power?!"

Again, not much changed except for really small things. This is obivously a pose where Rosa is upset to the point of crying. Hmm, I noticed on the old sprite that I did some pretty odd shading on her jacket. Glad I managed to fix that. Also, I got the tears from Maya's sprite ;)

Idle/Serious

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"I-Is there something I can help you with?"

Yes, this sprite has been redone not once, but three times. The only difference between them is obviously the outfits and the shading. This is Rosa's 'normal' pose. When I see her do this, it reminds me of Pearl... I think I've said that before, haven't I? XD
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They're looking a lot better! You're getting more experienced with shading with every new sprite.
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Thanks! I'm glad that I finally found a solid technique for shading.
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I have to say, you have improved! *standing ovation* You should be so proud! :keiko: I love it!
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Thanks! It wasn't easy... It almost over a year to improve as much as I have *Gives self "Most Improved Spriter" award*
Re: Nekonohime's Sprites- 10/19/2010 *Pretty Pink Dress*Topic%20Title
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Another sprite?!

Spoiler: Pretty Pink Dress
Formal Dress
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"I-I'm guess I'm ready to go now..."

Another remake! Rosa wears this dress in my next fic where she gets invited to a party being held by a certain character's son...

Anyways, this sprite is a complete overhaul of the old one, adding MUCH more detail to the dress as well as adding a necklace. With the shading of the dress I just played around with the colors and used ones that blended well. I also made an animated version with her blinking.
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I love your OC's, they have such character...sometimes I forget theyr'e not actually in the game...
I'm being serious XD
You have improved so much and I can tell by looking at your comparisons. Just, wow. This is an example to other spriters not to give up if you aren;t a master at first, you will get better with time.
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Thanks! That's very true, Romeo. Spriting is definitely something you have to practice every day, and you get much better at it the more you do it.
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nekonohime wrote:
More sprites! This time it's old sprites of Rosa remade to look better!

Spoiler: Lots Of Sprites
I put the old sprites next to the new ones for comparison. Oh, and the quotes are possible ones for when
she appears as her older self in my next fic.

Worried and/or Thinking

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"I-I... I'm not sure what you mean, Mr. Justice."

Wow, I can't believe how shoddy the old sprite looks. It looks like I put no effort into it at all compared to the new one, eh? I remember someone commented on it and said that the arm was fat. I definitely fixed that with the revision, as well as giving her the jacket she has now.

Old Sprite: Looking down, New Sprite: DAHLIA LEVELS OF EVIL.

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*sigh*

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"... What did you just say?!"

WOAH, talk about a HUGE change from the old sprite! Well, not much, except for the face. When I did the old sprite, I actually wanted to put the evil face on her, but I ended up doing the 'looking down' pose instead. When I got to this revision, I KNEW I wanted the evil face, since Rosa does have the evil death glare like her aunt, father and grandmother (Dahlia, Wocky and Morgan respectively). Also, the shading on the old sprite is garbage.

Annoyed

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"Hmph, I don't have time to sit around and babysit you girls all day! I have work to do!"

Not much of a change from the old sprite, other than the fox from her shirt is gone. And the fact the shading is ten times better. Rosa does this pose when she's obviously annoyed or being impatient with someone/something. It seems like Rosa always looks cute no matter what mood she's in :3 (Well, at least I think so anyway.)

Tearful

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"Oh, Mama, how could Grandma Morgan be so selfish to do such a thing like that to you... Just for power?!"

Again, not much changed except for really small things. This is obivously a pose where Rosa is upset to the point of crying. Hmm, I noticed on the old sprite that I did some pretty odd shading on her jacket. Glad I managed to fix that. Also, I got the tears from Maya's sprite ;)

Idle/Serious

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"I-Is there something I can help you with?"

Yes, this sprite has been redone not once, but three times. The only difference between them is obviously the outfits and the shading. This is Rosa's 'normal' pose. When I see her do this, it reminds me of Pearl... I think I've said that before, haven't I? XD


Awesome, much better than the last ones!
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No problem! I can't wait to see how you use them in your game!
Re: Nekonohime's Sprites- 10/20/2010 *Gloria Giorni*Topic%20Title
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New character, since I think everybody's getting tired of Rosa Kitaki XD

Spoiler: Gloria Giorni
Meet Gloria Giorni!
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"Aww, Quit bein' such a stick in the mud, Rosie! Ya gotta loosen up a little!"

New character alert! This is Rosa's best friend, Gloria. I came up with her name when I typed in "Glory day" in Google Translate, and it came up with 'gloria giorni' for the Italian entry, so I used it.

Rosa has known this girl pretty much since birth. She sees her as an older sister figure, since Gloria is two months older. Gloria is a lot more outgoing and loud than Rosa, and dresses more revealingly as well, indicating this. She speaks a lot of slang and has the stereotypical New Jersey/New York accent, since her family was originally from that area.

Gloria can be seen in my fanfics "The Fox & His Angel" (I think that's the title... I wrote this so long ago that I actually forgot) as a newborn where Wocky babysat her and "Every Rose Has Its Thorns" where she is six years old and being Rosa's friend and classmate. You will see her older in a future fic, alongside Rosa as always.

As for the sprite itself, I used Alita Tiala as a base and Desiree Delite's eyes and nose. Everything else was drawn myself. I wanted to give Gloria a contrasting look to Rosa, making her look more bold and outgoing. She wears a black jacket and pants, with a sleeveless shirt that is... Not really a shirt, but more like a tank top. Her hair is pretty much always in a ponytail. When she was younger, however, she had curly short hair, but it changed when she got older.

The hardest part about doing this sprite was shading her pants and jacket. I changed the shade of black many times, until I got something that would let the shading stand out better. The hoop earrings were actually easy- I just took yellow and made the colors get gradually lighter and darker.
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Hey, you're good. :phoenix:
In the first post you wrote that requests are always open.
I am currently working on a fangame and I'd like to
ask if you could sprite a chara. :yuusaku:

Her name is "Miss O!"

Spoiler: Miss O!
Age: 27, Gender. Female
Description: a young, perky fotographer who took part in a TV show. She is dressed very eye-catching, has red hairs. But she's also a little bit arrogant and very direct. Her dresses is a mix of teen and punk.
May take as basic angel starr, april may and alita tiala.
Needed emotions:
*normal
*thinking
*offended
*laughing
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Let me know if you want to do it.
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I'll see what I can do, Don.
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thanks! :phoenix: :phoenix: :phoenix:
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No problem!
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You're getting better! :D I'd say one problem is you use Alita Tiala as a base for a lot of things, so the sprites look, of course fantastic but very similar, compare these two together for example...
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They look almost too similar. I know how much you love case 4-2, but to get better you should change whose bases you use.
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I didn't use Alita as a base just because I like 4-2. I used it as a base because I thought the poses were fitting. Franziska actually has a similar pose to this, and they looked pretty similar so I wouldn't think I would be much of a difference. Another character that has a pose like that is Desiree Delite.

Despite using the same character as a base for both sprites, I tried to make it as different as I possibly could. Next time I'll see if I can use a different character for a base such as Franziska or Lana.
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WHAT?! I just realised I didn't comment or anything whatsoever... >_>

Well, what do we have here...? The shading's DEFINITELY improved. *nods*

And I also like the new char, although what Romeo said is correct. =D
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I honestly don't care if they look similar. They look different enough to me, just that the pose is the same. Right now for my request from Don, he wanted me to use Alita, Angel, and April. Let's see how it goes...
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Another sprite dump!

Spoiler: Another Sprite Dump
Don's Request- Miss O!
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I was asked by Don to do a character for his fangame named Miss O. She was described to me as being a TV star that dressed in teen/punk style fashion.

This was a bit difficult to do, since I did not have a picture reference, so I kinda had to wing it. As you can see, I used Alita as a base (Yeap I know I use her as a base A LOT), and April also for her angry pose.

When I was thinking of the punk image, I decided to give Miss O pigtails, purple pants and a tanktop, a belt, and two hoop earrings in both ears.

Hope you like this, Don!

Machi's Daughter?
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You're Apollo Yoostis, right? The one who defended my father?"

I've had this idea for a while. In my next fic, I actually thought about my OC Rosa Kitaki being friends with Machi's daughter in the *possible* future. However, she's a bit younger (About 15 years old), and she plays music as well... The violin!

As you can see, she looks pretty identical to Machi. She speaks English much better than he could when he was her age, though, being Borginian-American and all. The only thing I haven't done for her is give her a name...

As for the sprite itself, it was pretty easy to do. I used Machi's colors, eyes, nose and mouth, and the base is from Penny Nichols (The pose was too perfect).

Kitsune Kamen! (キツネ仮面)
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"...This costume is totally wack, man..."

Moar Halloween costumes. I thought about doing this for a while, but just no decided to do it.

In case you don't know who Wocky is dressed up as, it's Tuxedo Mask/Kamen from Sailor Moon. The reason for this costume? Because I thought it would be lulzy to put Wocky in a costume of a character that is WAY out of his character. Trust me, I was laughing the whole time making this.

This sprite was REALLY HARD to do! Editing Wocky's hair to get rid of his ears and pompadour is a PAIN IN THE ASS. Also the suit was annoying too. But I really love how this came out though. This was by far the most difficult sprite I have done, and it came out pretty good despite that in my opinion.
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nekonohime wrote:
Another sprite dump!

Spoiler: Another Sprite Dump
Don's Request- Miss O!
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I was asked by Don to do a character for his fangame named Miss O. She was described to me as being a TV star that dressed in teen/punk style fashion.

This was a bit difficult to do, since I did not have a picture reference, so I kinda had to wing it. As you can see, I used Alita as a base (Yeap I know I use her as a base A LOT), and April also for her angry pose.

When I was thinking of the punk image, I decided to give Miss O pigtails, purple pants and a tanktop, a belt, and two hoop earrings in both ears.

Hope you like this, Don!


I don't like it... I LOVE IT!
It is awesome, thank you, nekonohime!
Now only the animations must be done...
Do ya want a position as a beta-tester for my fangame?
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Umm, you wanted animations...? You didn't tell me before you wanted these to be animated :ack:

Dammit, now I have to go back and redo these...

Sure, I'll beta test, since I contributed something to the game.
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Hahaha, you have improved so much! I saw your old version of Rosa compared to your newer version of Rosa, and wow, you've gotten better! Good job!

The next thing you should work on is making your outlines a little less thick. They kinda look brushed right now. Fix that and your sprites will once again be improved dramatically ;)

Also, Don is using PyWright for his game, I'm fairly certain. PyWright can't handle animation, so Nekonohime, it will be better if you give a .png sheet.
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Thanks!

I have noticed the lines are thick... But they're not. I just used a color that was too dark and just made it look that way. I'll just see which colors will match better to make it seem less dark.

Yes, with Don's sprites, I am going to make the animated sprites in GIF and use saluk's gif-to-sheet tool he has on his site :)
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That works too :P
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nekonohime wrote:
Umm, you wanted animations...? You didn't tell me before you wanted these to be animated :ack:

Dammit, now I have to go back and redo these...

Sure, I'll beta test, since I contributed something to the game.


I'll kinda forget but actually I wanted to do a request in the request thread you don't need to do the animations if you don't want to!
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I've already started on the animations, actually XD

Since you're using Pyrwright it would be crummy if the sprites weren't animated and the rest of them were!
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Finished animating Don's sprites:

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They came out pretty good, but I messed up the eyes on her normal blink sprite. It's not too major, but by the time I noticed it it was too late ._.;
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Don't Aa chars usually blink while talking? :karma:
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Plus, their chin needs to move when talking.
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@nudalman- Not always. I've seen some of the characters have sprites where they 'blink-talk' and have another sprite that is just 'blinking'.

Didn't feel like making 3 different sprites just with blink talking, so I decided to save time and just not make her blink while she's talking XD

@Dark Coffee Drinker- Oops... I actually forgot that their chins move ._.; I actually never really noticed that before when I see the characters talk :beef: I'll take note of that next time I do an animated sprite.


I've noticed I've been getting a lot more attention in this little corner of the sprite section :3

Next I might remake my Child!Alita sprite. It deserves it, since it's so cute.
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