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I believe someone might have already mentioned it, but she reminds me ever-so-slightly of a Vocaloid as well. And that's not a bad thing! I think she has a really fantastic design and I'm glad you went with the black/orange-ish red color scheme.
oh my now that you mention it Cottontail is reminding me of Artgerm's Pepper! *0* I think the colour scheme + headphones + long hair somehow works wonders 8D
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hoshihoshi wrote:
Leesers wrote:
I believe someone might have already mentioned it, but she reminds me ever-so-slightly of a Vocaloid as well. And that's not a bad thing! I think she has a really fantastic design and I'm glad you went with the black/orange-ish red color scheme.
oh my now that you mention it Cottontail is reminding me of Artgerm's Pepper! *0* I think the colour scheme + headphones + long hair somehow works wonders 8D
That I must admit is a closer comparison ^^ I didn't know about Pepper till now though- what's she from? It's like Zeth. I created him before I knew about Sweeney Todd. I got sick of everyone saying he looked like him and researched it XD *fails*
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That I must admit is a closer comparison ^^ I didn't know about Pepper till now though- what's she from? It's like Zeth. I created him before I knew about Sweeney Todd. I got sick of everyone saying he looked like him and researched it XD *fails*
The only vocaloid I see any resemblance in is Miki. Who is like a much younger version of Pepper. Pepper is Artgerm's original character, and is incredibly popular on deviantart - he has several projects dedicated to her, and now a figurine has been created of her. Idk, Pep's been around forever.
Lol Sweeney Todd? Hmm, only the hair right? I don't think Zeth is really similar to any other characters. C:
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hoshihoshi wrote:
Lol Sweeney Todd? Hmm, only the hair right? I don't think Zeth is really similar to any other characters. C:
Yeah, but his hair is a REALLY distinctive feature about him, and I created him at the same time Sweeney Todd was being advertised XD It was a case of bad timing. I'm getting use to it though. It can always be worse of course >.> XD Atleast he's compared to with a character I like :)
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Yeah, but his hair is a REALLY distinctive feature about him, and I created him at the same time Sweeney Todd was being advertised XD It was a case of bad timing. I'm getting use to it though. It can always be worse of course >.> XD Atleast he's compared to with a character I like :)
Whaahh that is BAD timing. XD I guess it's hard to come up with a completely brand spanking ORI ORI ORI chara. XD We've all seen too many designs, and probably have been subconsciously affected by them. That or whatever we come up with are likely to have been taken already ): It's funny though, how some people can created dozens, if not more OCs that resemble some sort of personalise army while other sad sad losers like myself can't even think of one. I've never figured out why that is, but I've reasoned it as my lack of creativity.
... lol ignore me for being off topic ;n;
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hoshihoshi wrote:
Whaahh that is BAD timing. XD I guess it's hard to come up with a completely brand spanking ORI ORI ORI chara. XD We've all seen too many designs, and probably have been subconsciously affected by them. That or whatever we come up with are likely to have been taken already ): It's funny though, how some people can created dozens, if not more OCs that resemble some sort of personalise army while other sad sad losers like myself can't even think of one. I've never figured out why that is, but I've reasoned it as my lack of creativity.
... lol ignore me for being off topic ;n;
... lol ignore me for being off topic ;n;
Original characters are hard to make- don't get me wrong! I've been drawing OCs since I was 13, back when I started writing my first story 'Adventure World' (It's name at the time. It's now renamed Dragon Twins and the world is called Phauroraland- much more respectable XD ), and my first designs were all Sues. For instance, my first design of my characters Alex and Drakobitus was back in the days when Drakobitus was only ever a good guy, and he got teleported from Earth to a medieval fantasy world, fought a dragon by throwing water at it (LOL), broke a heavy enchantment on the dragon (WUHT?!), found out the dragon was his birth brother Alex (MIND F@^K why were they split apart in TWO DIFFERENT UNIVERSES?), and they all went back to the castle all happy as larry. Later stories swapped Alex to be the lead character (cause his character's looks and name was based off a guy I had a crush on), where he became a knight with little to no training and complete control over fire- full on Sue styles. Now days, Alex and Drakobitus are part of a family with a huge legacy, and a curse that gives them extraordinary amounts of power to protect the world from invaders, and their universe has all sorts of laws and stuff... Instead of being perfect, Alex gets thrown in the deap end changing universes, and hates his powers and for a while, refuses to use them. He's a jerk, he's arrogant, and he's an adrenaline junkie. I have alot of other characters too that I've created over the years (My DA gallery is probably best for that... A couple of pages from PseudoDragon may be a nice taster though- Issue 21, Issue 22, Issue 23. I haven't drawn it, but the two toned guy proceeds to torture the blond guy to death when he goes to attack him knowing he's the Dragon. Bryan is pretty friggin ruthless. I hope this is understandable on it's own T.T)
Anyways- I digress. My main point is OCs are difficult to make, and even harder if they aren't made for something. Some people can make random concepts work, but in the end, if you slap together a heap of styles you think is cool and give them alot of positives with no negatives, all you're going to get is a Mary Sue, and alot of people start off like that cause they want a bishie that can do everything and is perfect in every way. I feel sorry for people that don't write, cause writing is a WHOLE library of material to draw. Original stuff. All you need to do is make a personality that fits in the world, give them some quirks, give them some negatives, and then give them positives. after that, THEN you do concept sketches, and don't settle for the first design. Hurrr... I'm not sure how many pointers I could give besides that though. Copying shouldn't ever be an option. Inspiration yes, but it should only ever target what the character is for. Maybe a theme. Like Zeth has the theme gambling. The other problem for OCs though is that the viewer doesn't know their back story so they don't know why they're cool. Or they don't know it so don't search for it. OCs are at their most powerfull when they're writen about and published like a fandom character. The more people know about them, the better. That's what people miss.
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Why isn't Lang realistic? Looks or personality?
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Arkillian wrote:
Why isn't Lang realistic? Looks or personality?
Okay, maybe 'not realistic' was a bad word... But I don't see guy like him with hairs like this and with that kind of personality as an agent... he probably would be fired :P
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but AA hairdos are known for beeing a bit weird
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but AA hairdos are known for beeing a bit weird
but AA hairdos are known for beeing a bit weird
Actually, I found the personalities eccentric (which is good cause it's interesting), but I'd consider them more unique. When you compare AA hair to every day anime hair, it's close to normal hair, but it's unique. IF you look at the Clouds, the Vashs, the Abarai Renjis, Yugiohs... anime hair tends to defy not only gravity, but all laws of hair completely for stylism. I'm trying to think of an AA character where the hair was untranslatable to cosplay without wires. Luke Atmey is the worst... maybe Phoenix next... Even the Gavin's hair is possible with a natural twist :) Daryan doesn't count cause he has stage hair so it HAS to be out of it (and phelic). Wocky's would need gel and lots of colour attention but it's doable. In comparison to normal anime thoguh, if that's the worst, then AA is prety good :) Sure, they exadurate some of it, but that's cause it translates to tiny pixels, not art. Normally drawn hair would look flat on a DS. That's why they pump ther lift up a bit.
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more or less a little SPECIAL
In a good way
but sure is they stand out
and what are we talking about hair?
your art is awesome nuff said
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Coffee Prosecutor wrote:
I didn't meant to say weird
more or less a little SPECIAL
In a good way
but sure is they stand out
and what are we talking about hair?
your art is awesome nuff said
more or less a little SPECIAL
In a good way
but sure is they stand out
and what are we talking about hair?
your art is awesome nuff said
Oh yes- AA hair is special XD They have some relly nice loud hair styles XD Thank you though :) Most of it is posted on my DA if people are interested. Donno if that's apparent. I Had a truck one of it posted here and people complained it was too many so I cut it back to the 5 most recent.
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*___*;;;; Whoooa that is so very detailed! I feel a little overwhelmed right now, but boy oh boy are YOU dedicated to your original characters and stories. You could write a novel trilogy if you wanted to! That's enviable because I can barely string 2 sentences together if I have to describe my characters.
Yeah I guess if you have a long history of OCs and creating stories around them, then the process becomes easier down the track for other characters - you have more time to flesh them out. You make some great points about OCs, and how to develop them, but under time restraint - like say with the OC contest here which I only found out about a month out from the deadline - it's terribly difficult to create them. Additionally, it's not just about the design, it's my puzzlement over why OCs come so easy to some but not others. Visual designs are a huge hurdle I admit, but when you don't even know where to start it seems a minor inconvenience lol
Thanks for sharing your OCs and thoughts bb <3 Really appreciate it~
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*___*;;;; Whoooa that is so very detailed! I feel a little overwhelmed right now, but boy oh boy are YOU dedicated to your original characters and stories. You could write a novel trilogy if you wanted to! That's enviable because I can barely string 2 sentences together if I have to describe my characters.
Yeah I guess if you have a long history of OCs and creating stories around them, then the process becomes easier down the track for other characters - you have more time to flesh them out. You make some great points about OCs, and how to develop them, but under time restraint - like say with the OC contest here which I only found out about a month out from the deadline - it's terribly difficult to create them. Additionally, it's not just about the design, it's my puzzlement over why OCs come so easy to some but not others. Visual designs are a huge hurdle I admit, but when you don't even know where to start it seems a minor inconvenience lol
Thanks for sharing your OCs and thoughts bb <3 Really appreciate it~
I think it's the difference between having experience and not, and also having something to create them for and not. There are some people that design things for fun, and you CAN learn from doing that, but most just do fanart if they don't write cause it's more fun for alot of people to just draw the characters rather than work up a reputation for them cause frankly, to keep posting OCs is depressing till they get a fanbase, cause fanart gets SO much more attention. So yeah, unless their popularity is from looks alone, you pretty much need to create them for something ^^; I like to go with themes that go against popular concepts, like evil being blond, blonds being shunned, and fire being the hero. Zeth isn't so much an anti hero, but more a vigilante surrounded by people he can manipulate. Stuff like that :) I like OCs, but they take a bit of trial and error. Alot give up too soon on their character development :( IT's a real shame.
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I think it's the difference between having experience and not, and also having something to create them for and not. There are some people that design things for fun, and you CAN learn from doing that, but most just do fanart if they don't write cause it's more fun for alot of people to just draw the characters rather than work up a reputation for them cause frankly, to keep posting OCs is depressing till they get a fanbase, cause fanart gets SO much more attention. So yeah, unless their popularity is from looks alone, you pretty much need to create them for something ^^; I like to go with themes that go against popular concepts, like evil being blond, blonds being shunned, and fire being the hero. Zeth isn't so much an anti hero, but more a vigilante surrounded by people he can manipulate. Stuff like that :) I like OCs, but they take a bit of trial and error. Alot give up too soon on their character development :( IT's a real shame.
LOL I am so guilty of doing fanart because I cbf doing anything else XD;; I'm not so sure about fanart getting more attention however, because in art communities I've been on, it's usually those with interesting OCs that are most 'popular'. Fanartists tend to be loathed I find, either because they cave in to their fanbase's demands for certain pairings or whatever or because they are 'popular' for whatever they ship. idk it's very dA dramallama fanwank area ):
I think having one or 2 OCs is probably the best, instead of an army of them. That way you can focus on the OCs and allow your fanbase to get to know them better. Sometimes when I see an artist with a long lists of OCs, I get turned off immediately. Even worse, when these artists commission you to do endless amounts of their 200 OCs... ugh. Telling them to get a life probably is an understatement.
Going against popular stereotypes means going against convention, I'm not sure if that is always effective. Originality is probably the key, but it's an elusive thing to find. ):
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I still don't really understand what vectoring is but that pic is great!
Oh and that Zeth/Calisto pic is ace XD
Oh and that Zeth/Calisto pic is ace XD
For a more thorough understanding,this page describes what a graphic vector is. Simplified down, instead of you drawing a curve, a vector makes it a mathematical formula, so you can stretch and shrink the line as much as you want, and it wont lose it's appearance like it would if it were a flat image.
Have you ever tried enlarging a small picture, how it's pixelated? Well, if you don't 'raster' (flatten) a vector image, it will always remain a perfect line. I like using them cause they're clean. I know alot that make bad use of their live trace option however :( IT's an option where illustrator makes the lines for you. It's lazy, and it often destroys all the picture's character.
Re Calisto pic- thank you ^^ I've been dying to draw that for ages XD
A bit late but thanks for that link, it explained it a lot. Seems really tricky though XD
Oh and if you ever feel like doing anymore Zeth/Calisto pics.... do ;3
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I was bad and couldn't help myself; I had to read Cottontail's spoiler and WOAH. It makes perfect sense now! The headphones work perfectly into her character and it makes her all the more interesting. Something we always had drilled into our heads during Character Development class was to never include unnecessary details within a design, kind of like with writing. :) I think you did a spot-on job of keeping that in mind here too. She's really dynamic.
(ps: While scrolling through I passed by Zeth/Calisto again and HNNNNGGGHH DO WANT <3)
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LOL I am so guilty of doing fanart because I cbf doing anything else XD;; I'm not so sure about fanart getting more attention however, because in art communities I've been on, it's usually those with interesting OCs that are most 'popular'. Fanartists tend to be loathed I find, either because they cave in to their fanbase's demands for certain pairings or whatever or because they are 'popular' for whatever they ship. idk it's very dA dramallama fanwank area ):
I think having one or 2 OCs is probably the best, instead of an army of them. That way you can focus on the OCs and allow your fanbase to get to know them better. Sometimes when I see an artist with a long lists of OCs, I get turned off immediately. Even worse, when these artists commission you to do endless amounts of their 200 OCs... ugh. Telling them to get a life probably is an understatement.
Going against popular stereotypes means going against convention, I'm not sure if that is always effective. Originality is probably the key, but it's an elusive thing to find. ):
Tis a shame indeed....
I think having one or 2 OCs is probably the best, instead of an army of them. That way you can focus on the OCs and allow your fanbase to get to know them better. Sometimes when I see an artist with a long lists of OCs, I get turned off immediately. Even worse, when these artists commission you to do endless amounts of their 200 OCs... ugh. Telling them to get a life probably is an understatement.
Going against popular stereotypes means going against convention, I'm not sure if that is always effective. Originality is probably the key, but it's an elusive thing to find. ):
Tis a shame indeed....
Websites do differ with the fanart thing. Definitly on DA there's a strong fanart community cause finding people is SO difficult, and popular themes in OC art is also popular. I do think however that if you limit yourself to 2 OCs when you can support more is a mistake though. Even before I discovered Phoenix Wright, I had a MASS of OCs which admittedly got varied levels of attention due to what I was writing at the time, but they all had atleast some fans. The three main guys of my story, Alex, Bryan, and Edward had their own little fandom cliques being the main ones, but I also had females like Athenaand Julia who also had fanbase despite there only being romantic pictures posted of them. The gods have also got a fan base also- Luck, Chaos (who is a BLACK cat), Ambrose and Isidore
No matter how small any of their fandoms were, I couldn't rule any of them out as being popular in their own way, cause even if people didn't comment on every picture of them, they may have still been a fan, and they wouldn't know unless I posted them. I suspect if I ever posted a final version of Dragon Twins on the net, the fandoms would change again based on knowing personalities, just like Turnabout Attorney did. At first, Zeth was largly not what people commented on about TA. Now I've posted the comic, it's different.
This is all just my experience though. OCs don't have the story backing that fandoms have, and until you make it, they'll just be rated on aesthetics. OC communities are good, cause people hunt out good OCs and will ask about them. You will however be ignored in them if you don't have a back story of some sorts. They all tend to be comic writers like me- people that draw and write. Most of my pre PW watchers were people like that admittedly. Um... I'll stop before peopel think I have an ego (I love talking about my OCs- sorry XD )
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Oh and if you ever feel like doing anymore Zeth/Calisto pics.... do ;3
Perhaps :) We'll see if I find time ^^
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!!!
I was bad and couldn't help myself; I had to read Cottontail's spoiler and WOAH. It makes perfect sense now! The headphones work perfectly into her character and it makes her all the more interesting. Something we always had drilled into our heads during Character Development class was to never include unnecessary details within a design, kind of like with writing. :) I think you did a spot-on job of keeping that in mind here too. She's really dynamic.
(ps: While scrolling through I passed by Zeth/Calisto again and HNNNNGGGHH DO WANT <3)
I was bad and couldn't help myself; I had to read Cottontail's spoiler and WOAH. It makes perfect sense now! The headphones work perfectly into her character and it makes her all the more interesting. Something we always had drilled into our heads during Character Development class was to never include unnecessary details within a design, kind of like with writing. :) I think you did a spot-on job of keeping that in mind here too. She's really dynamic.
(ps: While scrolling through I passed by Zeth/Calisto again and HNNNNGGGHH DO WANT <3)
YOU DID A COURSE ON IT?! Omg... I wish I knew there were courses on that kind of thing. It'd help me SO much! Se, I can WRITE a character, but designing the apperance is SO hard for me :( I have to do SO much research on things and try all sorts of concepts.Zeth came to me almost immediately (lucky for me)- I just changed his colours around to reflect a more 'heroic' colour scheme (as a sign of irony cause at the time he was evil). Cottontail was MUCH harder, as you can tel cause she's visually more polished because of it - Try1, Try2, Try3, I also had troubles with colour swatches of her outfit Like this, and this, [url]and this[/url]. Basically, I had to let go of her last visual concept and understand that I WANTED her to be themed similar to Zeth- Hearts and spades. once that happened, she fell into place, but DAMN it was hard O.o She's based off an RP character I had with a similar quirk that I really liked the concept to.
Long post is long >.> I should get to doing work though XD
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hoshihoshi wrote:
LOL I am so guilty of doing fanart because I cbf doing anything else XD;; I'm not so sure about fanart getting more attention however, because in art communities I've been on, it's usually those with interesting OCs that are most 'popular'. Fanartists tend to be loathed I find, either because they cave in to their fanbase's demands for certain pairings or whatever or because they are 'popular' for whatever they ship. idk it's very dA dramallama fanwank area ):
I think having one or 2 OCs is probably the best, instead of an army of them. That way you can focus on the OCs and allow your fanbase to get to know them better. Sometimes when I see an artist with a long lists of OCs, I get turned off immediately. Even worse, when these artists commission you to do endless amounts of their 200 OCs... ugh. Telling them to get a life probably is an understatement.
Going against popular stereotypes means going against convention, I'm not sure if that is always effective. Originality is probably the key, but it's an elusive thing to find. ):
Tis a shame indeed....
I think having one or 2 OCs is probably the best, instead of an army of them. That way you can focus on the OCs and allow your fanbase to get to know them better. Sometimes when I see an artist with a long lists of OCs, I get turned off immediately. Even worse, when these artists commission you to do endless amounts of their 200 OCs... ugh. Telling them to get a life probably is an understatement.
Going against popular stereotypes means going against convention, I'm not sure if that is always effective. Originality is probably the key, but it's an elusive thing to find. ):
Tis a shame indeed....
Websites do differ with the fanart thing. Definitly on DA there's a strong fanart community cause finding people is SO difficult, and popular themes in OC art is also popular. I do think however that if you limit yourself to 2 OCs when you can support more is a mistake though. Even before I discovered Phoenix Wright, I had a MASS of OCs which admittedly got varied levels of attention due to what I was writing at the time, but they all had atleast some fans. The three main guys of my story, Alex, Bryan, and Edward had their own little fandom cliques being the main ones, but I also had females like Athenaand Julia who also had fanbase despite there only being romantic pictures posted of them. The gods have also got a fan base also- Luck, Chaos (who is a BLACK cat), Ambrose and Isidore
No matter how small any of their fandoms were, I couldn't rule any of them out as being popular in their own way, cause even if people didn't comment on every picture of them, they may have still been a fan, and they wouldn't know unless I posted them. I suspect if I ever posted a final version of Dragon Twins on the net, the fandoms would change again based on knowing personalities, just like Turnabout Attorney did. At first, Zeth was largly not what people commented on about TA. Now I've posted the comic, it's different.
This is all just my experience though. OCs don't have the story backing that fandoms have, and until you make it, they'll just be rated on aesthetics. OC communities are good, cause people hunt out good OCs and will ask about them. You will however be ignored in them if you don't have a back story of some sorts. They all tend to be comic writers like me- people that draw and write. Most of my pre PW watchers were people like that admittedly. Um... I'll stop before peopel think I have an ego (I love talking about my OCs- sorry XD )
.:looby:. wrote:
Oh and if you ever feel like doing anymore Zeth/Calisto pics.... do ;3
Perhaps :) We'll see if I find time ^^
Leesers wrote:
!!!
I was bad and couldn't help myself; I had to read Cottontail's spoiler and WOAH. It makes perfect sense now! The headphones work perfectly into her character and it makes her all the more interesting. Something we always had drilled into our heads during Character Development class was to never include unnecessary details within a design, kind of like with writing. :) I think you did a spot-on job of keeping that in mind here too. She's really dynamic.
(ps: While scrolling through I passed by Zeth/Calisto again and HNNNNGGGHH DO WANT <3)
I was bad and couldn't help myself; I had to read Cottontail's spoiler and WOAH. It makes perfect sense now! The headphones work perfectly into her character and it makes her all the more interesting. Something we always had drilled into our heads during Character Development class was to never include unnecessary details within a design, kind of like with writing. :) I think you did a spot-on job of keeping that in mind here too. She's really dynamic.
(ps: While scrolling through I passed by Zeth/Calisto again and HNNNNGGGHH DO WANT <3)
YOU DID A COURSE ON IT?! Omg... I wish I knew there were courses on that kind of thing. It'd help me SO much! Se, I can WRITE a character, but designing the apperance is SO hard for me :( I have to do SO much research on things and try all sorts of concepts.Zeth came to me almost immediately (lucky for me)- I just changed his colours around to reflect a more 'heroic' colour scheme (as a sign of irony cause at the time he was evil). Cottontail was MUCH harder, as you can tel cause she's visually more polished because of it - Try1, Try2, Try3, I also had troubles with colour swatches of her outfit Like this, and this, and this. Basically, I had to let go of her last visual concept and understand that I WANTED her to be themed similar to Zeth- Hearts and spades. once that happened, she fell into place, but DAMN it was hard O.o She's based off an RP character I had with a similar quirk that I really liked the concept to.
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Spoiler: Daryan x Klavier- Play that song (Yaoi- non con, NSFW)
This originally had a story, but that all got lost in the drawing process >.> Don't want critique on this no matter how much you think I need it. Positive stuff only please- thanks. I'm still learning those angles.
Um, drew it cause I felt the need to draw something Daryan x Klavier, and I REALLY can't see those two getting along even before that last fatefull concert together... I think originally, the pic was Daryan daring him to keep singing, but it doesn't look like that now. Perhaps someone else has a better story? XD
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Uh- not sure what people will think of this:
I LOVE it <3!!!! I'm always up for more Daryan
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hurr omg that's hot *fans self* there is nothing like onstage groping/surprise buttsex to make a concert sell 8D I bet that's what they do 0_0;; lol I love Klavier's expression, like 'omgwhutIAMNOTYOURGUITAR!' >_<;;;
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Arkillian wrote:
Uh- not sure what people will think of this:
I LOVE it <3!!!! I'm always up for more Daryan
Me too :) I really liked his character. It was fun having an arrogant Klavier around. Loled hard at his hair, but maybe that's why I like him XD Still cant figure it out though. It HAS to be a wig, but HOW o.o
hoshihoshi wrote:
*fapfapfapfapfapfap*
hurr omg that's hot *fans self* there is nothing like onstage groping/surprise buttsex to make a concert sell 8D I bet that's what they do 0_0;; lol I love Klavier's expression, like 'omgwhutIAMNOTYOURGUITAR!' >_<;;;
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hurr omg that's hot *fans self* there is nothing like onstage groping/surprise buttsex to make a concert sell 8D I bet that's what they do 0_0;; lol I love Klavier's expression, like 'omgwhutIAMNOTYOURGUITAR!' >_<;;;
>3
XD Heheh- well I'm glad a made a few people happy with it :) I get worried cause of the DA crowd being so anti yaoi >.> It's funny- originally I was going to have Daryan strumming the guitar, but the angles looked all wrong XD Then I tried Klavier, and it looks stupid so I just did him having a bit of fun. I imagine that he unzipped him for lols but that guitar is so precarious that anything could've happened XD It's ok- it needed to get out of my system XD My apologies to the Klavier x Ema fans out there- Klavier is such good boy it's hard not to uke him ^^;
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Klavier is such good boy it's hard not to uke him ^^;
I think Klavier tops most other characters, male/female/in between, his brother included. Daryan's probably the only one who can top Klavier, thanks probably to his incredibly phallic hair. I'd hate to be headbutted by this guy from behind. >_>;; Actually no, maybe Klavier is reversible. I can't decide about this. /:
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hoshihoshi wrote:
Arkillian wrote:
Klavier is such good boy it's hard not to uke him ^^;
I think Klavier tops most other characters, male/female/in between, his brother included. Daryan's probably the only one who can top Klavier, thanks probably to his incredibly phallic hair. I'd hate to be headbutted by this guy from behind. >_>;; Actually no, maybe Klavier is reversible. I can't decide about this. /:
See what I mean? Some people are almost always top- Like Godot, Hobo Phoenix, Damon Gant, and Miles. Some are almost always bottom like Ron Delite, Apollo Justice, and Machi. Ones like Klavier however are conditional as I can tell. If he's with a seme, he has no choice (Hobo Phoenix versus Klavier? I can't see Klavier winning the Seme spot there). If he's with an uke like Apollo, he'll always top. With someone else who is a question mark like him it's kinda grey area- Like Kristoph. Kristoph is 50/50 cause he's an evil bishie. Daryan is too much of an ass to be an uke though without being forced into it. He's bottom of the Seme tier to me :) Damon Gant is the top, Godot second, and Hobo Phoenix third to me ;) *purrs*
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I'd offer some kind of feedback relating to the art but as I'm soooo not a realistic artist at all, I'll just say that I like the shading and the pose with the guitar XD Just the look of total "eeeeeeethereisnowaythisishappeningitotallywasn'texpectingthat!!!" on Klavier's face is great :3
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Oh, my heart aches for poor little Klavier in this one ^^ My bet's that he was having one of his diva moments in rehearsal and Daryan decided to teach him a lesson :O
I'd offer some kind of feedback relating to the art but as I'm soooo not a realistic artist at all, I'll just say that I like the shading and the pose with the guitar XD Just the look of total "eeeeeeethereisnowaythisishappeningitotallywasn'texpectingthat!!!" on Klavier's face is great :3
I'd offer some kind of feedback relating to the art but as I'm soooo not a realistic artist at all, I'll just say that I like the shading and the pose with the guitar XD Just the look of total "eeeeeeethereisnowaythisishappeningitotallywasn'texpectingthat!!!" on Klavier's face is great :3
That's ok- I dont' want critique on this one- I'm only posting it at all cause I like how the colours turned out ^^ Thank you though- I like how Klavier's expression turned out too :) That sounds a pretty good story too. Klavier has a habit of being a perfectionist, eh? Maybe he got on Daryan's nerves ^^ Lol- Poor Klavier. He just wants his concerts to go perfectly ^^
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See what I mean? Some people are almost always top- Like Godot, Hobo Phoenix, Damon Gant, and Miles. Some are almost always bottom like Ron Delite, Apollo Justice, and Machi. Ones like Klavier however are conditional as I can tell. If he's with a seme, he has no choice (Hobo Phoenix versus Klavier? I can't see Klavier winning the Seme spot there). If he's with an uke like Apollo, he'll always top. With someone else who is a question mark like him it's kinda grey area- Like Kristoph. Kristoph is 50/50 cause he's an evil bishie. Daryan is too much of an ass to be an uke though without being forced into it. He's bottom of the Seme tier to me :) Damon Gant is the top, Godot second, and Hobo Phoenix third to me ;) *purrs*
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Since when has Miles ever topped? lolol Unless he's topping from the bottom. >D;;;; I like to think they're all reversible, although I guess the imagery of a petite little boy topping some bear might be a bit silly, but it happens so. I'm tiny and deceptively cute, but I top girls, bigger or smaller, agressively. >D;;;; And I can't be with guys because I want to top them with a strap on. Can't help what body you're born into ;_; I'm all for the girly semes! Machi should totally top Gant. WHY NOT. LMAO. LET HIM HAVE FUN TOOOOO <3
Hobo Nick would top younger Nick. Ah, so many selfcest pairings are possible! In any case, Klavier would be an unwilling uke on most occassions I think, unless he's been rohypnoled. Kristoph probably tops Klavier earlier... in life and satisfies my shota kink, but the table turns!
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hoshihoshi wrote:
Arkillian wrote:
See what I mean? Some people are almost always top- Like Godot, Hobo Phoenix, Damon Gant, and Miles. Some are almost always bottom like Ron Delite, Apollo Justice, and Machi. Ones like Klavier however are conditional as I can tell. If he's with a seme, he has no choice (Hobo Phoenix versus Klavier? I can't see Klavier winning the Seme spot there). If he's with an uke like Apollo, he'll always top. With someone else who is a question mark like him it's kinda grey area- Like Kristoph. Kristoph is 50/50 cause he's an evil bishie. Daryan is too much of an ass to be an uke though without being forced into it. He's bottom of the Seme tier to me :) Damon Gant is the top, Godot second, and Hobo Phoenix third to me ;) *purrs*
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Since when has Miles ever topped? lolol Unless he's topping from the bottom. >D;;;; I like to think they're all reversible, although I guess the imagery of a petite little boy topping some bear might be a bit silly, but it happens so. I'm tiny and deceptively cute, but I top girls, bigger or smaller, agressively. >D;;;; And I can't be with guys because I want to top them with a strap on. Can't help what body you're born into ;_; I'm all for the girly semes! Machi should totally top Gant. WHY NOT. LMAO. LET HIM HAVE FUN TOOOOO <3
Hobo Nick would top younger Nick. Ah, so many selfcest pairings are possible! In any case, Klavier would be an unwilling uke on most occassions I think, unless he's been rohypnoled. Kristoph probably tops Klavier earlier... in life and satisfies my shota kink, but the table turns!
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Yeah... now I think about it, Miles is pretty low on the seme list, but he DOES seme most of the cast. Phoenix is one of the characters that varies so sometimes he peaks over Miles in the hierarchy. I shouldn't have used him as an example... Jake Marshal is a better example.
Oh good lord... selfcest... Feenie x Phoenix x hobo ftw... I wish I was awesome enough to draw it... Bratworth x Edgeworth.... Diego x Godot... Oh- and twincest with the Gavins.... Oh, I'm terrible ^^ <3 I'm totally loling at the thought of Machi x Gant XD Reverse pedobear. Oh dear XD Then there's my personal favourite- Time paradox. There's so much awesome fun to have with that. Then there's cross dressing them... good old humiliation. I'm such a horrible person to characters... XD
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Some are almost always bottom like Ron Delite, Apollo Justice, and Machi.
I hope you know Machi Tobaye means "Badass Motherfucker" in Borginian.
I have my own interesting headcanon for Machi. He may have ended up in Borginia when orphaned, but his parents were both natives of the Isle of Lesbos, making Machi a "Lesbian," by birth. :D Also, he's so expressionless and cocky behind those sunglasses, you just know he's on top of things. I imagine him getting into a lot of fights in the orphanage and generally being a scrappy little devil. He's so awesome.
Back on topic, I'm a straight male, so I don't personally experience the appeal of yaoi, but Daryan/Klavier is pretty much the most convincing big gay couple in the fandom (i.e. a lot of couples like Klavier/Apollo come across like, "I want these two hot guys to bang," but with D/K (DONKEY KONG), I can buy both of the participants as being either gay or bisexual, and I can see why the two would get together in the first place.)
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Me too :) I really liked his character. It was fun having an arrogant Klavier around. Loled hard at his hair, but maybe that's why I like him XD Still cant figure it out though. It HAS to be a wig, but HOW o.o
Whether it's a wig or not, he must spend a LOT of time grooming it XD! I wish I never saw all the sprites before I played AJ, I would have loved to have been shocked whilst playing lmao
He's a complete tosser but I think that's why I love him so
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Yeah... now I think about it, Miles is pretty low on the seme list, but he DOES seme most of the cast. Phoenix is one of the characters that varies so sometimes he peaks over Miles in the hierarchy. I shouldn't have used him as an example... Jake Marshal is a better example.
Oh good lord... selfcest... Feenie x Phoenix x hobo ftw... I wish I was awesome enough to draw it... Bratworth x Edgeworth.... Diego x Godot... Oh- and twincest with the Gavins.... Oh, I'm terrible ^^ <3 I'm totally loling at the thought of Machi x Gant XD Reverse pedobear. Oh dear XD Then there's my personal favourite- Time paradox. There's so much awesome fun to have with that. Then there's cross dressing them... good old humiliation. I'm such a horrible person to characters... XD
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Yeah... now I think about it, Miles is pretty low on the seme list, but he DOES seme most of the cast. Phoenix is one of the characters that varies so sometimes he peaks over Miles in the hierarchy. I shouldn't have used him as an example... Jake Marshal is a better example.
Oh good lord... selfcest... Feenie x Phoenix x hobo ftw... I wish I was awesome enough to draw it... Bratworth x Edgeworth.... Diego x Godot... Oh- and twincest with the Gavins.... Oh, I'm terrible ^^ <3 I'm totally loling at the thought of Machi x Gant XD Reverse pedobear. Oh dear XD Then there's my personal favourite- Time paradox. There's so much awesome fun to have with that. Then there's cross dressing them... good old humiliation. I'm such a horrible person to characters... XD
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8D;; It's a dark and filthy place lolz
Miles is a gentleman through and through, and a peace-loving, tree hugging (probably) hippie on the inside (probably), nil on aggression. So with that sort of personality, it's hard to see him as a proactive seme. If he is in a relationship, I get the feeling the other party will be dominant, in or out of bed. A lot of the other slashable male characters are pretty enough to be reversible, like Jake. It's really the bear types like Gant that aren't. Although it's not impossible to uke him. >D
And don't forget Franziskacest, and even Kaycest, Judgecest? *shotshotshot* They're cousins but they look the same so >_> Throw in crossdressing, maybe even some genderbending and AA is officially the kinkiest series ever. 8D YAAAY OMG SO MUCH TO DO. We should totally have a thread dedicated to this depravity. It would be so fun!
(lol nope XD She's from Girls Generation. <3)
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hoshihoshi wrote:
Miles is a gentleman through and through, and a peace-loving, tree hugging (probably) hippie on the inside (probably), nil on aggression. So with that sort of personality, it's hard to see him as a proactive seme. If he is in a relationship, I get the feeling the other party will be dominant, in or out of bed. A lot of the other slashable male characters are pretty enough to be reversible, like Jake. It's really the bear types like Gant that aren't. Although it's not impossible to uke him. >D
And don't forget Franziskacest, and even Kaycest, Judgecest? *shotshotshot* They're cousins but they look the same so >_> Throw in crossdressing, maybe even some genderbending and AA is officially the kinkiest series ever. 8D YAAAY OMG SO MUCH TO DO. We should totally have a thread dedicated to this depravity. It would be so fun!
(lol nope XD She's from Girls Generation. <3)
And don't forget Franziskacest, and even Kaycest, Judgecest? *shotshotshot* They're cousins but they look the same so >_> Throw in crossdressing, maybe even some genderbending and AA is officially the kinkiest series ever. 8D YAAAY OMG SO MUCH TO DO. We should totally have a thread dedicated to this depravity. It would be so fun!
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Are we forgetting that Miles is the Demon Prosecutor? Miles is a total smug fucking asshole before Phoenix saves him, and even afterwards, he's pretty distant and stuffy (and he's still a condescending smug asshole to Gumshoe). Where are you getting the tree-hugging hippie from?
Gambler/Waitress Olgacest would be the hottest selfcest, too bad it doesn't exist.
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Are we forgetting that Miles is the Demon Prosecutor? Miles is a total smug fucking asshole before Phoenix saves him, and even afterwards, he's pretty distant and stuffy (and he's still a condescending smug asshole to Gumshoe). Where are you getting the tree-hugging hippie from?
Gambler/Waitress Olgacest would be the hottest selfcest, too bad it doesn't exist.
Gambler/Waitress Olgacest would be the hottest selfcest, too bad it doesn't exist.
That's just his attitude towards his work and style in court though, and mostly blamed on his unbringing. His arrogance again is a result of his perfect record, and his distain for attorneys. (And he totally loves Gumshoe, in his own way - seriously I have a friend who does the same to me). He's always been a pacifist, and if he adds more splashes of colour to his cravat, he'd totally be a tree-hugging hippie. Now I ship Miles/trees. I wonder what sort of trees he likes. HMMM.
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Icarus wrote:
Back on topic, I'm a straight male, so I don't personally experience the appeal of yaoi, but Daryan/Klavier is pretty much the most convincing big gay couple in the fandom (i.e. a lot of couples like Klavier/Apollo come across like, "I want these two hot guys to bang," but with D/K (DONKEY KONG), I can buy both of the participants as being either gay or bisexual, and I can see why the two would get together in the first place.)
Yaoi is an aesthetic and it's a taboo thing- like yuri art is taboo cause two girls kissing... well, ok. Alot of girls are fine kissing girls for lols, but it's a taboo thing still. The danger is what appeals. Also two hot guys is better than 1, right? I'm not surprised that it wouldn't appeal. I'm glad that you atleast understand the appeal of these two atleast ((To be honest, I'm not really a Klavier x Apollo fan. I'm not sure WHO I team him up with, but it doesn't feel right to me ^^; I guess alot of it is that I'm not really an Apollo fan. He's such a fun Nazi XD ))
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Whether it's a wig or not, he must spend a LOT of time grooming it XD! I wish I never saw all the sprites before I played AJ, I would have loved to have been shocked whilst playing lmao
He's a complete tosser but I think that's why I love him so
He's a complete tosser but I think that's why I love him so
Me too XD I don't know why I like the jerks of the game :) I guess I'm charmed by their magnitude of character. That hair REALLY confuses me though... how does it work? It looks like it starts at the tip of the shark snout which just isn't right! >.<
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8D;; It's a dark and filthy place lolz
Miles is a gentleman through and through, and a peace-loving, tree hugging (probably) hippie on the inside (probably), nil on aggression. So with that sort of personality, it's hard to see him as a proactive seme. If he is in a relationship, I get the feeling the other party will be dominant, in or out of bed. A lot of the other slashable male characters are pretty enough to be reversible, like Jake. It's really the bear types like Gant that aren't. Although it's not impossible to uke him. >D
And don't forget Franziskacest, and even Kaycest, Judgecest? *shotshotshot* They're cousins but they look the same so >_> Throw in crossdressing, maybe even some genderbending and AA is officially the kinkiest series ever. 8D YAAAY OMG SO MUCH TO DO. We should totally have a thread dedicated to this depravity. It would be so fun!
(lol nope XD She's from Girls Generation. <3)
Miles is a gentleman through and through, and a peace-loving, tree hugging (probably) hippie on the inside (probably), nil on aggression. So with that sort of personality, it's hard to see him as a proactive seme. If he is in a relationship, I get the feeling the other party will be dominant, in or out of bed. A lot of the other slashable male characters are pretty enough to be reversible, like Jake. It's really the bear types like Gant that aren't. Although it's not impossible to uke him. >D
And don't forget Franziskacest, and even Kaycest, Judgecest? *shotshotshot* They're cousins but they look the same so >_> Throw in crossdressing, maybe even some genderbending and AA is officially the kinkiest series ever. 8D YAAAY OMG SO MUCH TO DO. We should totally have a thread dedicated to this depravity. It would be so fun!
(lol nope XD She's from Girls Generation. <3)
Oh- don't get Miles wrong- he's a seme alright. He may be the town bicycle, but he also has force of personality. He is a gentleman, sure, but that doesn't mean he'll take it. Miles is a man of initiative. He may have uke qualities, but they're only exploitable :) AA is pretty kinkable though- I'll totally give you that. I saw all the art on Y!g before I became a fan and was like 'Wuht? Why the love?" and now I totally get it ^^ Such an awesome game :D
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See what I mean? Some people are almost always top- Like Godot, Hobo Phoenix, Damon Gant, and Miles. Some are almost always bottom like Ron Delite, Apollo Justice, and Machi. Ones like Klavier however are conditional as I can tell. If he's with a seme, he has no choice (Hobo Phoenix versus Klavier? I can't see Klavier winning the Seme spot there). If he's with an uke like Apollo, he'll always top. With someone else who is a question mark like him it's kinda grey area- Like Kristoph. Kristoph is 50/50 cause he's an evil bishie. Daryan is too much of an ass to be an uke though without being forced into it. He's bottom of the Seme tier to me :) Damon Gant is the top, Godot second, and Hobo Phoenix third to me ;) *purrs*
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Am I the only one who thinks that Hobo!Phoenix is also conditional?
I always thought that Edgeworth tops him -_-;
I don't really ship Klavier/Daryan but the pic is hot :D
I also like the colors.
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I threw Cottontail and Alexander Kraus together into an advert for perfume. Took me AGES and heaps of research to come up with a correct pose that worked, but here it is!
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I threw Cottontail and Alexander Kraus together into an advert for perfume. Took me AGES and heaps of research to come up with a correct pose that worked, but here it is!
Thoughts- lipstick mark on Kraus on or off?
That's great! Your style really suits mystery stories perfectly. And I say: lipstick; why not?^^
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