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People used to care about what you think, but then you started having a 'woes me' attitude. It's annoying. Yeah, you have your own views, but you have to see that other people have their own too. You have a "I'm right and you're all wrong" mentality and that's why people 'stopped caring.'


Yeah, I do have my own views. And when I don't agree with others' ideas, I'm going to tell them and give my reasons for disagreeing. I don't care if you side with me or not. I'm never backing down, will always defend my positions, change views when new evidence arises, and will always fight to the bitter end.

And for your information, my "woes me" attitude is something that affects me every single day. I don't care for people like you escalating the depression I already have. It's comments like that which drive weaker people to suicide. And as much as I hate to say it, I felt near-suicidal during the beginning of all this. Not so much now, but not a day goes by where I don't mutter under my breath, "someone please shoot me."

Today some unknown number texted me and said that I was just as bad as Elliot Rodger for still trying to talk to my former girlfriend and that I deserved everything that I'm going through. So forgive me if I'm in a bad mood when someone compared me to a psychotic misogynistic killer.
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People used to care about what you think, but then you started having a 'woes me' attitude. It's annoying. Yeah, you have your own views, but you have to see that other people have their own too. You have a "I'm right and you're all wrong" mentality and that's why people 'stopped caring.'


Yeah, I do. And when I don't agree with them, I'm going to tell them and give you my reasons for disagreeing. I don't care if you agree with me or not. I'm never backing down.

And for your information, my "woes me" attitude is something that affects me every single day. I don't care for people like you escalating the depression I already have. It's comments like that which drive weaker people to suicide. And as much as I hate to say it, I felt near-suicidal during the beginning of all this. Not so much now, but not a day goes by where I don't mutter under my breath, "someone please shoot me."

Today some unknown number texted me and said that I was just as bad as Elliot Rodger for still trying to talk to my former girlfriend and that I deserved everything that I'm going through. So forgive me if I'm in a bad mood when someone compared me to a psychotic misogynistic killer.


Yeah, but then you practically yell at them and force your views down their throat. Just disagree and move on.

People throw that around a lot lately. You think you're the only one that deals with depression on this forum. Think again sir. There are a number of members that have it, but they don't cling on to the negative aspect and bring other people down with them. You can't be negative all the time. Which, let's face it, is how you are.

You're always in a bad mood. I don't see what's new.
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Yeah, but then you practically yell at them and force your views down their throat. Just disagree and move on.

People throw that around a lot lately. You think you're the only one that deals with depression on this forum. Think again sir. There are a number of members that have it, but they don't cling on to the negative aspect and bring other people down with them. You can't be negative all the time. Which, let's face it, is how you are.

You're always in a bad mood. I don't see what's new.


I'm not forcing my views down anyone's throats. I'm firmly stating them. Take it or leave it. I told you, I'm not backing down when issues like this arise. When I'm going to defend something, I'm not going to do it half-heartedly.

So that's supposed to make me feel any better? I face this daily emotional agony EVERY SINGLE MOMENT OF EVERY SINGLE DAY. I'm not joking here. I am completely miserable 24/7 because my problems occupy every single aspect of my life. There is literally nothing else for me to talk about, because that's all that happens. Every day is the same, and nothing I do changes anything. It is impossible to be positive when there's nothing in my life that brings me happiness.
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I'm not forcing my views down anyone's throats. I'm firmly stating them. Take it or leave it. I told you, I'm not backing down when issues like this arise. When I'm going to defend something, I'm not going to do it half-heartedly.

So that's supposed to make me feel any better? I face this daily emotional agony EVERY SINGLE MOMENT OF EVERY SINGLE DAY. I'm not joking here. I am completely miserable 24/7 because my problems occupy every single aspect of my life. There is literally nothing else for me to talk about, because that's all that happens. Every day is the same, and nothing I do changes anything. It is impossible to be positive when there's nothing in my life that brings me happiness.


Yeah, but you end up being a total, for lack of a better word, prick about it.

There's the 'woes me' attitude I mentioned earlier. You think/act negative, you get negative results. Plain and simple.
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Yeah, but you end up being a total, for lack of a better word, prick about it.

There's the 'woes me' attitude I mentioned earlier. You think/act negative, you get negative results. Plain and simple.


Not my fault that people interpret it that way. You think great speakers like MLK were soft with their words? They were loud and strong. And that's how I get my points across. It's not like I don't have evidence to back the things I say anyways.

And the word for most useless advice goes to...

Seriously, what the hell are you trying to say? When there is absolutely nothing positive in my life, it's impossible to think positive. And yes, I've tried to. Many times. I've tried the route of saying "everything will be fine" and "don't be negative." And you know what happens? Jackshit. My life stays the same and my days are still terrible. Today in orchestra class I broke down in tears in the corner of the room while everyone else was watching a film. Me breaking down is all too common these days. I can't take it anymore.

So no, being positive in my situation is not as simple as you think it is.
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Not my fault that people interpret it that way. You think great speakers like MLK were soft with their words? They were loud and strong. And that's how I get my points across. It's not like I don't have evidence to back the things I say anyways.

And the word for most useless advice goes to...

Seriously, what the hell are you trying to say? When there is absolutely nothing positive in my life, it's impossible to think positive. And yes, I've tried to. Many times. I've tried the route of saying "everything will be fine" and "don't be negative." And you know what happens? Jackshit. My life stays the same and my days are still terrible. Today in orchestra class I broke down in tears in the corner of the room while everyone else was watching a film. Me breaking down is all too common these days. I can't take it anymore.

So no, being positive in my situation is not as simple as you think it is.


There's the prick attitude~ :gant-clap:

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It's only hard because you make it that way. You must be the kind of individual that relies on others for happiness. Hate to break this to you, but people won't be there for you forever. In the end all you have is yourself. So pick yourself up and do something, instead of sulking and spewing your shitty attitude here.
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There's the prick attitude~ :gant-clap:

tl;dr

It's only hard because you make it that way. You must be the kind of individual that relies on others for happiness. Hate to break this to you, but people won't be there for you forever. In the end all you have is yourself. So pick yourself up and do something, instead of sulking and spewing your shitty attitude here.


Then I guess all the great orators were pricks then.

If you can't even read one paragraph, then there's something wrong with you. But I digress.

Fine then. I guess it's my fault that I'm miserable even though I've been treated like shit by everyone in my life. I have no right to be miserable or sad. In fact, I WANT to cry my eyes out and wish that I was dead every single day. Perfect logic.

Do something? What the fuck do you think I do every day? What the fuck do you think I've been doing my whole life? NOTHING WORKS. I'm in a shitty environment, a shitty household, a shitty school, and with shitty people. This occupies every single aspect of my daily living and isn't something that I can just ignore.

But I don't expect you to understand. You're in a happy relationship that's lasted multiple years. Right now, your life is the polar opposite of mine in terms of happiness.
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There's the prick attitude~ :gant-clap:

tl;dr

It's only hard because you make it that way. You must be the kind of individual that relies on others for happiness. Hate to break this to you, but people won't be there for you forever. In the end all you have is yourself. So pick yourself up and do something, instead of sulking and spewing your shitty attitude here.


Then I guess all the great orators were pricks then.

If you can't even read one paragraph, then there's something wrong with you. But I digress.

Fine then. I guess it's my fault that I'm miserable even though I've been treated like shit by everyone in my life. I have no right to be miserable or sad. In fact, I WANT to cry my eyes out and wish that I was dead every single day. Perfect logic.

Do something? What the fuck do you think I do every day? What the fuck do you think I've been doing my whole life? NOTHING WORKS. I'm in a shitty environment, a shitty household, a shitty school, and with shitty people. This occupies every single aspect of my daily living and isn't something that I can just ignore.

But I don't expect you to understand. You're in a happy relationship that's lasted multiple years. Right now, your life is the polar opposite of mine in terms of happiness.


> But I don't expect you to understand. You're in a happy relationship that's lasted multiple years. Right now, your life is the polar opposite of mine in terms of happiness.
Four years out of the 21 years I spent on this Earth.
Oh, please. I live with depression. I have been through traumatic experiences, put on various medications and self mutilated since I was an adolescent. I think I know what it feels like. Just recently I let go of negativity, seeing as it never did well for me.

Just because you type walls of text doesn't mean you're right, btw. It's not that I can't read it, I just refuse to waste my time on all the negativity.
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> But I don't expect you to understand. You're in a happy relationship that's lasted multiple years. Right now, your life is the polar opposite of mine in terms of happiness.
Four years out of the 21 years I spent on this Earth.
Oh, please. I live with depression. I have been through traumatic experiences, put on various medications and self mutilated since I was an adolescent. I think I know what it feels like. Just recently I let go of negativity, seeing as it never did well for me.

Just because you type walls of text doesn't mean you're right, btw. It's not that I can't read it, I just refuse to waste my time on all the negativity.


I said RIGHT NOW you're happy. I'm not. And if you truly did understand, you'd know how trapped I'm feeling right now with no way out.

Then don't waste your time. What I write isn't even that long, but I don't fucking care anymore. Go have fun with your boyfriend and with your own life. Some miserable loser like me shouldn't detract from your wonderful happiness.

People like you are why people like me commit suicide. Because you don't consider their situation and brush things off with, "don't think negative." That only further drives people into depression and into emotional agony. If you want to ignore the fact that nothing has worked for me and I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown every single fucking day, then fine. It's not the first time people have dismissed me. If I killed myself, none of you would care. It wouldn't affect any of you.
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People like you are why people like me commit suicide. Because you don't consider their situation and brush things off with, "don't think negative." That only further drives people into depression and into emotional agony. If you want to ignore the fact that nothing has worked for me and I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown every single fucking day, then fine. It's not the first time people have dismissed me. If I killed myself, none of you would care. It wouldn't affect any of you.

Don't even go there, jfc.
I like how I already told you that I live with depression, but you discarded that completely. Now I know the kind of person you are. You're the kind of person that always assumes their problems are worse than anyone else. Get over yourself, you pompous windbag.
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Don't even go there, jfc.
I like how I already told you that I live with depression, but you discarded that completely. Now I know the kind of person you are. You're the kind of person that always assumes their problems are worse than anyone else. Get over yourself, you pompous windbag.


I don't give a fuck about people anymore. Because it seems that no one cares about any good I do or any help I give them. And no, I'm not assuming that my problems are any better or worse. I'm saying that I'm going through a horrible time and that I've lost all will to live. I'm not saying that I'm a Holocaust survivor or anything. People have completely different lives and completely different problems.

And as for calling me a pompous windbag, congratulations. You've poured more gasoline onto the fire of horrific things people have called me during all of this. You want me to kill myself? Will that appease you?

Fine, I have no right to be said or miserable according to you. Fucking fantastic.
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Whatever you say, TopHat. Whatever you say.


You know what? Fuck you. Fuck you to hell.

It's people like you that don't care. Fucking pieces of apathetic shit like you that make me hate every single goddamn moment of my fucking life. If you want to treat all this like a joke, then fine by me. That's all I am to parasites like you, a rotten joke that people grow tired of real quick only to be thrown away like trash. Fucking trash.

I hope you're happy that you've made my shitty fucking day all the more horrendous and awful. Good fucking night.
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Whatever you say, TopHat. Whatever you say.


You know what? Fuck you. Fuck you to hell.

It's people like you that don't care. Fucking pieces of apathetic shit like you that make me hate every single goddamn moment of my fucking life. If you want to treat all this like a joke, then fine by me. That's all I am to parasites like you, a rotten joke that people grow tired of real quick only to be thrown away like trash. Fucking trash.

I hope you're happy that you've made my shitty fucking day all the more horrendous and awful. Good fucking night.


Okay. Keep 'em coming.
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Both of you, please drop the matter. I can't claim to have been in the Professor's shoes, but I've seen that the "my life sucks" mentality is not an easy one to get out of, to put it lightly. I've been through depression myself, and I doubt I would have gotten out of it were it not for the people in my life I care about and who I know care about me. I don't know how things are with you, Jazakure, but going off of what I've experienced and from what I've seen, not everyone can force themselves to be happy when they feel as though they have nothing going for them. Even if it turns out to be all in their heads (which I don't think is currently the case with the Professor), they cannot see that and thus cannot overcome it on their own.

That said, both of you are guilty of flaming. I'm willing to let this incident slide if both of you drop the matter, but I can't promise the other staff members will be as lenient, let alone if this continues.

Finally, Professor, I apologize for pressing a sensitive issue and for failing to make my sympathy for you and others who have been victimized clear. As I said before, I do not support using an equality movement's grievances as a means of harming innocent people. Whoever compared you to Elliot Rodger suffered from a serious lack of perspective and the girls who got you suspended suffered from a serious lack of empathy.
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I can drop it. That's not a problem at all on my end.
I apologize. I just spoke on my own behalf and felt the need to say something, but I'll drop it as a means of peace~ ^__^
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Going back to the last serious post (though I refuse to believe I've treated you horribly here Professor and I hope you see some people have tried to help you before).

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Professor, please read over what I said again. Where and when did I claim I wanted to turn a blind eye to mistreatment of men? I am fully aware of the problems that face men and believe they should also be addressed. At present, I consider the problems facing women to be more serious, but that does not mean I am ignorant of or unwilling to acknowledge such problems as false rape accusations and other misuses of the "women are victims" card.


More serious!? More serious!? Who the hell are you to decide that?

It's thinking like that which continues the sexism against men and why I view feminism to be so narrow-minded. Secular humanism is equal rights for everyone and with equal importance. All feminism does is focus on the issues with women, while losing focus on other problems against other groups.

As long as people like you say that women's issues are more important than anyone else's problems, what happened to me will only happen time and time again. And for a lot of men, they face even worse situations than I did.


He's a person Tophat, that's what gives him the right to decide that, same as you consider sexism towards men overlooked. The General is aware of the problems with sexism towards men but he is of a mindset that there are more problems for men.

Let's mount them up somewhat based off the top of my head:
Men:
False Rape Accusations
Domestic Violence
Pressure to hide domestic violence due to 'pride'
Rape
Disadvantage in Custody Cases

Women:
'Glass Ceiling' workplaces
Improved but still different pay grades
Prejudice in the workplace due to maternity leave
Rape
'Slut' shaming
Domestic Violence

I think the major difference here is that women have to cope with more 'corporate' sexism differences in the workplace that prohibit their ability to earn and live well. Domestic violence and Rape happen on both genders. These are differences that we really should tackle because we can recognise it's unfair and it should be within our power to control as a society whereas domestic violence and rape we can't particularly control.

Also you argued your trauma as a case but it's hardly a sexist issue and is likely to happen to girls just as well.
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Like any group there are the extremists who will hate men and see it as women vs the world, to reclaim the power from years of oppression but it's an extreme minority like bombers and creationists and tree-chaining hippies and football fans who get violent and start riots. We can't judge a group as a minority otherwise we insult their actual cause and show a horrific amount of ignorance and insensitivity to the non-extreme members of the group.
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I know, I stopped myself from responding to his post - didn't want to start things up again.

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Today some unknown number texted me and said that I was just as bad as Elliot Rodger for still trying to talk to my former girlfriend and that I deserved everything that I'm going through.


Why the fuck do you care what some random asshole is telling you via SMS?

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You think great speakers like MLK were soft with their words?


Didn't he get shot? (Or am I thinking wrong MLK here?)

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'Glass Ceiling' workplaces


There are such places?

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I can drop it. That's not a problem at all on my end.
I apologize. I just spoke on my own behalf and felt the need to say something, but I'll drop it as a means of peace~ ^__^


No, of course it isn't. You don't care and what you had to say only escalated my horrible day. And I don't accept your apology, because I don't believe you're actually sorry. But like I said, I don't care.

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Both of you, please drop the matter. I can't claim to have been in the Professor's shoes, but I've seen that the "my life sucks" mentality is not an easy one to get out of, to put it lightly. I've been through depression myself, and I doubt I would have gotten out of it were it not for the people in my life I care about and who I know care about me. I don't know how things are with you, Jazakure, but going off of what I've experienced and from what I've seen, not everyone can force themselves to be happy when they feel as though they have nothing going for them. Even if it turns out to be all in their heads (which I don't think is currently the case with the Professor), they cannot see that and thus cannot overcome it on their own.

That said, both of you are guilty of flaming. I'm willing to let this incident slide if both of you drop the matter, but I can't promise the other staff members will be as lenient, let alone if this continues.

Finally, Professor, I apologize for pressing a sensitive issue and for failing to make my sympathy for you and others who have been victimized clear. As I said before, I do not support using an equality movement's grievances as a means of harming innocent people. Whoever compared you to Elliot Rodger suffered from a serious lack of perspective and the girls who got you suspended suffered from a serious lack of empathy.


It certainly is not in my head since these are actual problems I face every day. And while you might have had people in your life to get you out of whatever issues you were facing, I literally have no one. No friends, and not a person in my school who truly cares. Listen, I don't WANT to be this way. But given my surroundings, nothing is going to change anytime soon.

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Let's mount them up somewhat based off the top of my head:
Men:
False Rape Accusations
Domestic Violence
Pressure to hide domestic violence due to 'pride'
Rape
Disadvantage in Custody Cases

Women:
'Glass Ceiling' workplaces
Improved but still different pay grades
Prejudice in the workplace due to maternity leave
Rape
'Slut' shaming
Domestic Violence


Again, why are we focusing on just gender issues? These are HUMAN issues that need to be addressed. It happens to both sexes, and one should not have priority over the other.

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I think the major difference here is that women have to cope with more 'corporate' sexism differences in the workplace that prohibit their ability to earn and live well. Domestic violence and Rape happen on both genders. These are differences that we really should tackle because we can recognise it's unfair and it should be within our power to control as a society whereas domestic violence and rape we can't particularly control.


In America, there is a wage gap, but it's getting smaller. Things are better than ever before for women who are working. I'm not going to say it's perfect, but it's getting there. Only a matter of time. But what DOES happen in the workplace is sexual harassment. If a man does something to a woman, he's looked upon as trash and a scumbag. But if a woman does it to a man, it isn't taken seriously. There have been tons of accounts of men getting sexually harassed, but the staff and bosses doing nothing about it. Doesn't that have to be addressed?

We might not be able to control domestic violence and rape, but we CAN control our responses to them. Stop relying on these narrow-minded social stigmas and double standards. It isn't fair, and it hurts both parties.

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Also you argued your trauma as a case but it's hardly a sexist issue and is likely to happen to girls just as well.
I feel your style is too overtly aggressive Professor, you seem too eager to turn this into a shouting match while others are trying to talk civilly about the matter so perhaps just consider people aren't meaning anything negative towards you when they question your opinion.


I highly disagree. I was suspended from school because of that false accusation of me threatening to rape to girls. They took their side and not mine. My word against theirs. Because they were the "sweet and innocent" females with top notch marks and achievements, they didn't listen to me. That isn't sexism? I'm telling you, if it was me saying that I was treated with rape, it wouldn't be anywhere near as serious.

Secondly, my girlfriend emotionally abused me. But time and time again, the majority of people I talk to seem to ignore that fact and they do not take it seriously. It's as if they view that men can't get emotionally scared or traumatized. And this event DID traumatize me. Can you imagine what it's like for me when people just brush it off?

As for me being "too eager" into turning this into a shouting match, it's just because people like Jakuzure Nonon piss me off with their apathy and bullshit advice. I'm not doing this because I want to. I'm angry and I'm bitter because every single day of my life is hell. Anyone in my position would feel the same.

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Like any group there are the extremists who will hate men and see it as women vs the world, to reclaim the power from years of oppression but it's an extreme minority like bombers and creationists and tree-chaining hippies and football fans who get violent and start riots. We can't judge a group as a minority otherwise we insult their actual cause and show a horrific amount of ignorance and insensitivity to the non-extreme members of the group.


It's the feminazis who are running the show. I'm telling you people that the most encompassing and effective worldview is secular humanism. Feminism hasn't done a damn thing for men like us and it only reinforces (intentionally or not) these double standards. That's why I don't support it.

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Why the fuck do you care what some random asshole is telling you via SMS?


Because it's another thing to add to the list of shit things that happened to me yesterday. My number is being distributed without my permission. I'm being called just as as bad a psychopath and blamed for my problems when I don't need to hear that now. Besides, it isn't the first time. I've been abused and unfairly judged before online too. Both here and on other sites. This asshole though really put me into a horrible mood.

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Didn't he get shot? (Or am I thinking wrong MLK here?)


What the hell does that have to do with anything? Yeah, he was shot. But his achievements in the Civil Rights Movement are immense. The fuck does it matter if he was killed? His ideas and legacy still live on.
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Secondly, my girlfriend emotionally abused me.


Emotionally abused you? Was she being a constant tease or disappointing you over and over while in your relationship? From what you told us, no. You two were happy. She broke up with you. Yes, that is traumatizing because it always hurts to break up with someone. And she quite openly told you that she did not want to be friends with you anymore afterwards - yes, that's painful. But that's not being emotionally abusive. If she were to constantly give you new hope that something may work out, but then drops you like a hot potato over and over or humiliates you in front of others, that would be emotionally abusive. But given your words, that's not what's happening. You're hurt from the break up, yeah. But not emotionally abused by her.

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Anyone in my position would feel the same.


You can't say that because every person is different. Even if someone were in the exact same situation like you, with a shitty home, shitty school, shitty people all around you and everything being hell, they might continue to just live through every day, ignoring the shitty stuff, maybe even with a tiny glimmer of potential hope that after graduation, something will change. No definite knowledge that it will, but a tiny hope nonetheless.

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Because it's another thing to add to the list of shit things that happened to me yesterday.


And I'll ask again: why do you care? Block the number, or if their number is suppressed, ignore the SMS. Insulting someone via SMS is, like, the most coward way of doing things. Doing it via calls is maybe a bit more courageous, but texting it is the most cowardly way of doing it. Everybody who insults you via text? Just cowards you don't have the balls to say it to your face. Why waste your time or emotions on dicks who lack balls?

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What the hell does that have to do with anything? Yeah, he was shot. But his achievements in the Civil Rights Movement are immense. The fuck does it matter if he was killed? His ideas and legacy still live on.


I dunno. Just saying. Seems to me like the more extreme someone is, the more likely they'll get killed. I just don't really see the point in getting killed over something when a legacy lives on. *shrug*

By the way, just showing this here, because I think it fits here. Not trying to say Men are Assholes, just pointing out a sort of incidence, where the woman is still blamed for crap that is 100% the guy's fault. Not an attack at you, TopHat, or anyone else on this forum. Just showing here that women still get blamed for crap they shouldn't get blamed for.

A blog entry about men who think it's okay to shoot someone for being rejected. I have to be quite honest, that is a thing I absolutely despise and it's still happening. It seems like a lot of men are brought up with the idea that woman will always say yes - or rather, men are not brought up to deal with rejection or disappointment. Women are because... I dunno, still the archaic idea of women only there to please men or something like that. Men are sometimes still brought up without knowing how to deal with rejection and then come up with this stupid shit.
I sincerely hope that nobody on this forum actually believes that any of those men - the ones who had the guns or the boys who think the girls were at fault for saying no - were actually right in their actions. Because they weren't.

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You know what Grind my Gears?

Squirrels

Shit they ate everything! I planted around 30 plants of tomatoes and 15 of them are already eaten by those squirrels. I repotted 15 plants and over the night they depotted them, leaving my beloved plants with the roots exposed to air for an unknown amount of time, which can can kill it. I attempt a rescue mission for one of my pine bonsai by planting it directly in the ground, squirrels dig and eats the thirds of the roots!

I think the worst is when the defecate on the BBQ.


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Squirrels

Shit they ate everything! I planted around 30 plants of tomatoes and 15 of them are already eaten by those squirrels. I repotted 15 plants and over the night they depotted them, leaving my beloved plants with the roots exposed to air for an unknown amount of time, which can can kill it. I attempt a rescue mission for one of my pine bonsai by planting it directly in the ground, squirrels dig and eats the thirds of the roots!

I think the worst is when the defecate on the BBQ.


DAMN YOU SQUIRRELS! I'LL GET MY REVENGE SOMEDAY!:pizza: :seeds:

Oh, those things? We run over them all the time. Those and possums. I actually find the latter to be much worse if only for the fact that one day you wake up, smell a rancid stench, and SURPRISE! You find a dead possum just randomly hiding in your living area. It wouldn't be so bad, except it's really quite common over where I'm from.
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Again, why are we focusing on just gender issues? These are HUMAN issues that need to be addressed. It happens to both sexes, and one should not have priority over the other.


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It's the feminazis who are running the show. I'm telling you people that the most encompassing and effective worldview is secular humanism. Feminism hasn't done a damn thing for men like us and it only reinforces (intentionally or not) these double standards. That's why I don't support it.


Yes these are human issues but you seem to be of a mind that gender issues = superiority of one over another given your repeated insisting that "Feminazis run the show" which is erroneous thinking. They might be vocal minorities but it doesn't make their believes any less ridiculous and most importantly not evident of the main points of feminism. By dividing the problems into smaller divisions perhaps mankind can better tackle it rather than asking individuals to take on all of humanity's problems. Honestly Tophat you lose a lot of credibility when you actually think those extreme minorities are the dominant factor. Gender issues aren't about establishing dominance over the other sex it's about equality.

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In America, there is a wage gap, but it's getting smaller. Things are better than ever before for women who are working. I'm not going to say it's perfect, but it's getting there. Only a matter of time. But what DOES happen in the workplace is sexual harassment. If a man does something to a woman, he's looked upon as trash and a scumbag. But if a woman does it to a man, it isn't taken seriously. There have been tons of accounts of men getting sexually harassed, but the staff and bosses doing nothing about it. Doesn't that have to be addressed?


"It's getting there" is not there yet, which is why it's important to keep fighting for it "Better than ever" for women isn't a good enough answer equality is a good enough answer. Sexual harassment happens to both sexes and honestly I don't think you have any proof that it is a bigger problem for men in the workplace than women or that it wouldn't be taken seriously if a man brought it up. You claim there are 'tons of accounts' but I'm sure there's also plenty of accounts of women bringing it forth and it being dismissed as well as it's seen as the 'status quo' or a 'compliment'. It's an equal issue, I'm not discounting the fact it happens to men but there's nothing to say it's worse for men than women.

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We might not be able to control domestic violence and rape, but we CAN control our responses to them. Stop relying on these narrow-minded social stigmas and double standards. It isn't fair, and it hurts both parties.


You see this is what I'm talking about your style coming off as confrontational and aggressive looking to start a shouting match. You accuse me of having "narrow-minded" social stigmas and "Double standards". In actuality I did not say a thing about my responses to domestic violence and rape.

I actually said we focus on the problems we concretely can tackle with legislation, as domestic violence and rape are outwidth our control being illegal acts.

You then turn this on me as being "narrow minded". We're not all out to start fights with you Tophat, I'd appreciate it if you didn't blanket us with insults like that :ron:

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I highly disagree. I was suspended from school because of that false accusation of me threatening to rape to girls. They took their side and not mine. My word against theirs. Because they were the "sweet and innocent" females with top notch marks and achievements, they didn't listen to me. That isn't sexism? I'm telling you, if it was me saying that I was treated with rape, it wouldn't be anywhere near as serious.


Well if you'll actually look up the list of issues I did list "false rape allegations" as a male issue so don't worry I did take it into account though it wasn't what I was talking about. Regarding this incident, I don't mean to offend but only advise, you come across as slightly misogynistic here. Yes what they did was wrong, being "sweet and innocent" girls might have nothing to do with it though. Looking at it objectively it's a 2-to-1 vote and while your school should probably have handled it better you've got no concrete proof that their gender, academic achievement, popularity or any other factor played into the decision. You have my sympathy on the matter but objectively if I was a school board who didn't know you I'd see a 2-to-1 accusation and simple majority rules.

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Secondly, my girlfriend emotionally abused me. But time and time again, the majority of people I talk to seem to ignore that fact and they do not take it seriously. It's as if they view that men can't get emotionally scared or traumatized. And this event DID traumatize me. Can you imagine what it's like for me when people just brush it off?


This is the incident I was actually discounting as a gender issue. Heartbreak happens in both genders, trauma from a partner leaving happens in both genders. There are literally legions of songs wrote by women about men cheating and leaving them, just like there's legions of songs from men about true love getting away. I'm not denying it was traumatic for you but I'm saying it isn't a sexist issue because heartbreak can happen to everyone regardless of gender.
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You know what grinds my gears? Effing mosquitoes.
Seriously, where I live, the little fuckers are EVERYWHERE. I don't know if it's because of the weather we had earlier this year or what, but they are worse than usual.
It doesn't even seem like bug spray has any effect on them anymore, either. My little brother's legs are practically polka-dotted with mosquito bites.
Oh, and swatting them doesn't help, because when you kill one, 10 more take their place! :tigre:
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You know what grinds my gears? Effing mosquitoes.
Seriously, where I live, the little fuckers are EVERYWHERE. I don't know if it's because of the weather we had earlier this year or what, but they are worse than usual.
It doesn't even seem like bug spray has any effect on them anymore, either. My little brother's legs are practically polka-dotted with mosquito bites.
Oh, and swatting them doesn't help, because when you kill one, 10 more take their place! :tigre:


Well if you want to get rid of them bites there is a way. warm a spoon in hot water and I think the spoon has to be placed on the bites. I don't remember but I know it involves a warm spoon or hot spoon on the bites.

*ahem*

You know what really grinds my gears? The Job Economy.
You should think after applying a job you should get a call form the company place you apply at but you don.'t or you get the call but fail to answer it because you didn't had the phone on you, or the phone was on mute for various of reasons and when you leave them your name and number and they hear the message you leave for them but never call you back which means you pretty much don't get the call back you been waiting for or you are not getting the job. How the fuck are we suppose to making a living if the Job economy won't allow us a fucking job. :tigre:
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Ex-fucking-actly. I have yet to miss a call from a job I apply to, mostly cause I either receive rejections via snail mail or e-mail, but I have the same problem in terms of experience. How the hell a person is supposed to gain experience in a job to get the job if nobody hires them for that type of job?

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@DoMaya's Post: Ahhhh, humanity at its best. If a kid plays in traffic, it deserves to get hit and the parents deserve to feel worse. And actually, fuck those kids, we as parents can't tell the adults who are already beyond help (most of the time) to not give you candy, all we can do is prevent you from doing shit. And that "rape" thing is dumb. Whoever was the judge in that trial needs to get their kneecap shot. And the last part is just a stupid woman who hates the idea of working. "OmG there's a TINY flaw in my marriage, I MUST DIVORCE HIM, WAAAAAH!" And exactly what the fuck is the point of the... superman logo one?

Although I'll totally let my bitchyness out at the "stop cars from hitting us" thing now. You know Mock The Week? They have these skits and Andry Russel during one made a kid voice and did a mockery of those hitting a kid at a certain mph range. "If you hit me at 30 mph, there's an 80% I'll die. If you hit me at 20 mph, there's an 80% I'll live. Stop hitting me with your car!" Gyahahahahaha!

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You know what really grinds my gears? All these Islamophobes who demand to see condemnations of such practices as "honor" killings and terrorism. Google is your friend. Is it that hard to look up "fatwa against honor killing" or "fatwa against terrorism" or "Muslims denounce terrorism" and look at a few of the results that come up? Muslims have condemned and continue to condemn these acts. It's not their fault their words never make it to the front page.

Heck, while we're at it, let's extend this problem to just about any self-centered imbecile who makes unsubstantiated claims about a group and then never bothers to see if his/her claims are actually accurate. I've seen this kind of behavior toward just about everyone, but Muslims are the first group that come to mind in my case. I've seen people treating all Christians as though they're "agree with me or you'll burn" fundamentalists, I've seen people treating all atheists as though they're amoral nihilists who place no value on the lives of others, I've seen people treating LGBT people as though they're all obsessed with sex acts that most people consider inappropriate... And you know what all these imbeciles have in common? They never search for examples of people that don't fit that stereotype.

If you don't hear what someone said, that's not your fault. If you don't listen to what they say, it is your fault.

Maybe I should have added "I've seen people treating all feminists as though they're self-centered misandrists" to that list in the second paragraph... Essentially, people cherry-pick isolated cases of extremism and/or malevolence and apply it to the entire group. That's what I'm seeing here. As a feminist, I am outraged at the despicable acts carried out in the alleged name of feminism; such acts completely ignore the meaning of the movement and give it a bad name that it doesn't deserve. Anyone who uses feminism as an excuse to harm someone does not deserve to be called a feminist. As I've said before, the movement is about equality, not retribution against or oppression of men.
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I don't think I want to enter into a discussion on feminism with someone who unironically used an Amazing Atheist video as some kind of proof. I mean, he's one of the most repulsive, misogynistic humans there is. But yes I'm sure this man knows all about rape culture better than those silly women.

It feels to me, TopHatProfessor, that you see feminism as some kind of "revenge against men" thing. No, sexism against men is absolutely nowhere near the level of insitutionalised sexism towards women. I mean, as a man I'll never have to fear people getting violent when I reject them, I'll always be taken seriously in STEM fields, I'll rarely have to deal with people explaining things to me in a patronising way. Women still have it worse in literally everything. As a dude it's important to realise that and fight for equality. And most of the points you made against feminism are a bit odd because literally anyone who's read anything to do with it knows that these are also caused by patriarchal society and that feminism aims to right these too. Gender roles hurt both men and women (particularly like you said, with regards to domestic abuse) and guess what the main goal of third wave feminism is? To dismantle gender roles!

Also you use the word feminazis unironically, wow.

To be honest though, General Luigi said it better than I could in his last post, listen to him instead.
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@DoMaya's Post: Ahhhh, humanity at its best. If a kid plays in traffic, it deserves to get hit and the parents deserve to feel worse. And actually, fuck those kids, we as parents can't tell the adults who are already beyond help (most of the time) to not give you candy, all we can do is prevent you from doing shit. And that "rape" thing is dumb. Whoever was the judge in that trial needs to get their kneecap shot. And the last part is just a stupid woman who hates the idea of working. "OmG there's a TINY flaw in my marriage, I MUST DIVORCE HIM, WAAAAAH!" And exactly what the fuck is the point of the... superman logo one?

Although I'll totally let my bitchyness out at the "stop cars from hitting us" thing now. You know Mock The Week? They have these skits and Andry Russel during one made a kid voice and did a mockery of those hitting a kid at a certain mph range. "If you hit me at 30 mph, there's an 80% I'll die. If you hit me at 20 mph, there's an 80% I'll live. Stop hitting me with your car!" Gyahahahahaha!

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Now replace "kids" with women, and replace any reference to cars and candy to rape


Also the women's study one was there as a joke.
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@DoMaya's Post: Ahhhh, humanity at its best. If a kid plays in traffic, it deserves to get hit and the parents deserve to feel worse. And actually, fuck those kids, we as parents can't tell the adults who are already beyond help (most of the time) to not give you candy, all we can do is prevent you from doing shit. And that "rape" thing is dumb. Whoever was the judge in that trial needs to get their kneecap shot. And the last part is just a stupid woman who hates the idea of working. "OmG there's a TINY flaw in my marriage, I MUST DIVORCE HIM, WAAAAAH!" And exactly what the fuck is the point of the... superman logo one?

Although I'll totally let my bitchyness out at the "stop cars from hitting us" thing now. You know Mock The Week? They have these skits and Andry Russel during one made a kid voice and did a mockery of those hitting a kid at a certain mph range. "If you hit me at 30 mph, there's an 80% I'll die. If you hit me at 20 mph, there's an 80% I'll live. Stop hitting me with your car!" Gyahahahahaha!

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Now replace "kids" with women, and replace any reference to cars and candy to rape


Also the women's study one was there as a joke.


So women are responsible for getting raped? What an awful thing to say.
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The message flew right over your head.
Women need to learn that they can prevent rape, just like a child can prevent getting run over.

The entire "I CAN DO WHAT I WANT!" Argument that some women have is as asinine as children who think they can play in OBVIOUSLY dangerous areas with impunity.

I fucking hate this SJW and Womyn bullshit.
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The message flew right over your head.
Women need to learn that they can prevent rape, just like a child can prevent getting run over.

The entire "I CAN DO WHAT I WANT!" Argument that some women have is as asinine as children who think they can play in OBVIOUSLY dangerous areas with impunity.

I fucking hate this SJW and Womyn bullshit.

No no, I got the message, that's literally what you were saying here. Children playing in dangerous areas is absolutely not analagous to a person being raped.
Also you're wrong anyway because the way a victim is dressed has nothing to do with their chance of being raped. In fact, most rapists go after conservatively dressed women. So don't victim blame.
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The message flew right over your head.
Women need to learn that they can prevent rape, just like a child can prevent getting run over.

The entire "I CAN DO WHAT I WANT!" Argument that some women have is as asinine as children who think they can play in OBVIOUSLY dangerous areas with impunity.

I fucking hate this SJW and Womyn bullshit.

No no, I got the message, that's literally what you were saying here. Children playing in dangerous areas is absolutely not analagous to a person being raped.
Also you're wrong anyway because the way a victim is dressed has nothing to do with their chance of being raped. In fact, most rapists go after conservatively dressed women. So don't victim blame.


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>you're wrong anyway
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>Implying I said anything about the way women dress.

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DoMaya wrote:
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DoMaya wrote:
The message flew right over your head.
Women need to learn that they can prevent rape, just like a child can prevent getting run over.

The entire "I CAN DO WHAT I WANT!" Argument that some women have is as asinine as children who think they can play in OBVIOUSLY dangerous areas with impunity.

I fucking hate this SJW and Womyn bullshit.

No no, I got the message, that's literally what you were saying here. Children playing in dangerous areas is absolutely not analagous to a person being raped.
Also you're wrong anyway because the way a victim is dressed has nothing to do with their chance of being raped. In fact, most rapists go after conservatively dressed women. So don't victim blame.


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>you're wrong anyway
>presents evidence that doesn't contradict any of my points
>Implying I said anything about the way women dress.


>Talks like someone off 4chan on a proper forum.

Okay then, explain your point. Explain to me please, how women can prevent rape and that the onus is on them to do so.

Edit: Also TopHat, I think you should read this, it's interesting: http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronom ... ailed.html
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>Talks like someone off 4chan on a proper forum.

Okay then, explain your point. Explain to me please, how women can prevent rape and that the onus is on them to do so.


They can learn to defend themselves for one.
They can also learn to not travel in dangerous areas alone.

I'm 22 years old and big as hell, but you won't catch ME walking around in unsafe areas without some means of protection.

I'm not saying that every woman needs to start packing heat, I'm saying that the argument that some women present saying "I shouldn't have to be afraid at any given time under any circumstance!
I don't need to be careful when I'm drinking at a bar!
I can walk the streets of LA at midnight if I want!"
Is ludicrous.

Bad people are going to do bad things regardless of how much you tell them not to, why in the hell do you give then any chances?
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DoMaya wrote:
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>Talks like someone off 4chan on a proper forum.

Okay then, explain your point. Explain to me please, how women can prevent rape and that the onus is on them to do so.


They can learn to defend themselves for one.
They can also learn to not travel in dangerous areas alone.

I'm 22 years old and big as hell, but you won't catch ME walking around in unsafe areas without some means of protection.

I'm not saying that every woman needs to start packing heat, I'm saying that the argument that some women present saying "I shouldn't have to be afraid at any given time under any circumstance!
I don't need to be careful when I'm drinking at a bar!
I can walk the streets of LA at midnight if I want!"
Is ludicrous.

Bad people are going to do bad things regardless of how much you tell them not to, why in the hell do you give then any chances?

There's a difference between a dude not being able to walk through a dangerous area and the way women can't 100% safely walk anywhere at night. We live in a perfectly safe neighbourhood only steps from a police station and yet women have been assaulted there at night before. My girlfriend constantly gets catcalled and has horrible advances made on her when she's out. That's what the complaint is about.
Also weapons of any kind are illegal here and there's no way the average woman is going to overpower a male attacker in a one-on-one fight. I don't see how people wanting to feel safe in the place they live at night is an outrageous demand, it seems like a perfectly desirable goal.

Also, when you make the victim feel responsible, saying that they could have taken steps to prevent it, that's pretty plainly victim blaming and is just gonna make them feel even worse about what happened to them.

Edit: In any case, my apologies for jumping to conclusions but the amount of times I've seen image macros like that used for telling women not to dress provocatively sort of made me react instinctively.
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Okay then, explain your point. Explain to me please, how women can prevent rape and that the onus is on them to do so.


They can learn to defend themselves for one.
They can also learn to not travel in dangerous areas alone.

I'm 22 years old and big as hell, but you won't catch ME walking around in unsafe areas without some means of protection.

I'm not saying that every woman needs to start packing heat, I'm saying that the argument that some women present saying "I shouldn't have to be afraid at any given time under any circumstance!
I don't need to be careful when I'm drinking at a bar!
I can walk the streets of LA at midnight if I want!"
Is ludicrous.

Bad people are going to do bad things regardless of how much you tell them not to, why in the hell do you give then any chances?



There's a difference between a dude not being able to walk through a dangerous area and the way women can't 100% safely walk anywhere at night. We live in a perfectly safe neighbourhood only steps from a police station and yet women have been assaulted there at night before. My girlfriend constantly gets catcalled and has horrible advances made on her when she's out. That's what the complaint is about.
Also weapons of any kind are illegal here and there's no way the average woman is going to overpower a male attacker in a one-on-one fight. I don't see how people wanting to feel safe in the place they live at night is an outrageous demand, it seems like a perfectly desirable goal.

Also, when you make the victim feel responsible, saying that they could have taken steps to prevent it, that's pretty plainly victim blaming and is just gonna make them feel even worse about what happened to them.

Edit: In any case, my apologies for jumping to conclusions but the amount of times I've seen image macros like that used for telling women not to dress provocatively sort of made me react instinctively.


You're telling me pepper spray isn't legal?

Also there are plenty of martial arts that can teach a person to defend themselves against bigger people.
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