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I really hate that my dad keeps lying to my mom.
"We can stay at my mom's house."
"We have until the day after Christmas."
"I've been giving my mom some money to hold for me while I look for places."
- We can't.
- We don't.
- You didn't.
Lately I've been so aggravated with him. Daniel and I are the ones looking for places while he just worries about what his "girlfriend" sees him as. I don't like her. He's never even met her and all she wants is money anyway. He keeps giving her money AND she has his credit card info and she splurges almost every day. I don't eat for days at a time because we don't have money and the little money we DO have has to be put away or used as gas money yet he says nothing when she spends $40 on Dominos. I'm just so done with everything.
We might have to give away all 3 of our dogs if we don't find a place by this weekend and I'm just so stressed out that he's done nothing but complain. He has a friend that can help us and I ask him to text him and he's all "I don't want to bother him." It's not bothering. We need fucking help.
Ugh...
"We can stay at my mom's house."
"We have until the day after Christmas."
"I've been giving my mom some money to hold for me while I look for places."
- We can't.
- We don't.
- You didn't.
Lately I've been so aggravated with him. Daniel and I are the ones looking for places while he just worries about what his "girlfriend" sees him as. I don't like her. He's never even met her and all she wants is money anyway. He keeps giving her money AND she has his credit card info and she splurges almost every day. I don't eat for days at a time because we don't have money and the little money we DO have has to be put away or used as gas money yet he says nothing when she spends $40 on Dominos. I'm just so done with everything.
We might have to give away all 3 of our dogs if we don't find a place by this weekend and I'm just so stressed out that he's done nothing but complain. He has a friend that can help us and I ask him to text him and he's all "I don't want to bother him." It's not bothering. We need fucking help.
Ugh...
My sympathies, Dawn. (Though what's with the girlfriend having your dad's credit card info? Is that normal in most relationships?)
I know you don't want to give the dogs away, but if necessary be all clingy, selfish, immature child about it. No giving pets away. That is just no. Shouldn't be done. I really hope things get better for you. (Also, if you know your father's friend's number, can you ask him for some potential help?)
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CatMuto wrote:
Shimakaze wrote:
I really hate that my dad keeps lying to my mom.
"We can stay at my mom's house."
"We have until the day after Christmas."
"I've been giving my mom some money to hold for me while I look for places."
- We can't.
- We don't.
- You didn't.
Lately I've been so aggravated with him. Daniel and I are the ones looking for places while he just worries about what his "girlfriend" sees him as. I don't like her. He's never even met her and all she wants is money anyway. He keeps giving her money AND she has his credit card info and she splurges almost every day. I don't eat for days at a time because we don't have money and the little money we DO have has to be put away or used as gas money yet he says nothing when she spends $40 on Dominos. I'm just so done with everything.
We might have to give away all 3 of our dogs if we don't find a place by this weekend and I'm just so stressed out that he's done nothing but complain. He has a friend that can help us and I ask him to text him and he's all "I don't want to bother him." It's not bothering. We need fucking help.
Ugh...
"We can stay at my mom's house."
"We have until the day after Christmas."
"I've been giving my mom some money to hold for me while I look for places."
- We can't.
- We don't.
- You didn't.
Lately I've been so aggravated with him. Daniel and I are the ones looking for places while he just worries about what his "girlfriend" sees him as. I don't like her. He's never even met her and all she wants is money anyway. He keeps giving her money AND she has his credit card info and she splurges almost every day. I don't eat for days at a time because we don't have money and the little money we DO have has to be put away or used as gas money yet he says nothing when she spends $40 on Dominos. I'm just so done with everything.
We might have to give away all 3 of our dogs if we don't find a place by this weekend and I'm just so stressed out that he's done nothing but complain. He has a friend that can help us and I ask him to text him and he's all "I don't want to bother him." It's not bothering. We need fucking help.
Ugh...
My sympathies, Dawn. (Though what's with the girlfriend having your dad's credit card info? Is that normal in most relationships?)
I know you don't want to give the dogs away, but if necessary be all clingy, selfish, immature child about it. No giving pets away. That is just no. Shouldn't be done. I really hope things get better for you. (Also, if you know your father's friend's number, can you ask him for some potential help?)
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Dammit Cat, you can't call this 'advice' unless you're completely oblivious to reality. First of all we don't have all the context needed to know what the proper decisions are in their lives. Secondly, if money expenses are the root of their problem then giving up the dogs could be a hard, but necessary solution. You're kind of advice is make it each other's life as hard as possible during very trying times?
Dawn did you confront him about his expenses regarding his girlfriend? The best way to get through financial hard times is to take into account exactly how much goes in and out, preferable write everything down on a paper. Try to eliminate obsolete expenses (such as the $40 dominoes) and try to increase the income if possible. It's very hard and awkward to talk about finances with your parents when things don't go your way, but if your dad is acting irresponsible then for both your sakes and your dogs you need to bite the bullet in this one and confront the problem.
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And Sibbjey, considering he gave his GF, who obviously doesn't seem to care about his finances, his credit card info, best bet would be to stop that card - that way, she can't use it willy-nilly. Already, a GIANT step to overlook your finances is done.
Heck, I would ask your father why he even thought giving his credit card info to his GF was a good idea! I don't have my husband's card infos, neither does he have mine. And, no offense, Dawn, but what the HELL does your father expect to think his GF takes him for, if he gives her such easy access to his card (so soon)?
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My sympathies, Dawn. (Though what's with the girlfriend having your dad's credit card info? Is that normal in most relationships?)
I know you don't want to give the dogs away, but if necessary be all clingy, selfish, immature child about it. No giving pets away. That is just no. Shouldn't be done. I really hope things get better for you. (Also, if you know your father's friend's number, can you ask him for some potential help?)
I know you don't want to give the dogs away, but if necessary be all clingy, selfish, immature child about it. No giving pets away. That is just no. Shouldn't be done. I really hope things get better for you. (Also, if you know your father's friend's number, can you ask him for some potential help?)
He's never met her and he gave her his credit card info. I told him not to, but he "loves her".
I really don't want to give them away, my dad doesn't either, but each day we keep thinking about it. I really hope something comes through in the end. I don't have his friends number and he feels "awkward" speaking to me because I'm a young female. I'm not a child though... we can speak like the adults we are. -__- Some men are weird.
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Dawn did you confront him about his expenses regarding his girlfriend? The best way to get through financial hard times is to take into account exactly how much goes in and out, preferable write everything down on a paper. Try to eliminate obsolete expenses (such as the $40 dominoes) and try to increase the income if possible. It's very hard and awkward to talk about finances with your parents when things don't go your way, but if your dad is acting irresponsible then for both your sakes and your dogs you need to bite the bullet in this one and confront the problem.
Don't act like a passive aggressive brat who acts up because she doesn't get what she wants
Don't act like a passive aggressive brat who acts up because she doesn't get what she wants
I have confronted him. A few days ago he got a new card and he keeps forgetting to get it activated. Even though I tell him every morning before he goes to work. I'm the one that checks his account online because he doesn't know how to internet. Most of the outgoing stuff is from RI (where she lives). Whenever she gets angry she ignores him, sometimes for days. She only talks to him when she wants money. He knows that, but I guess doesn't care.
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If you are having trouble connecting to him do you have an aunt or uncle? Hell even your mum might work you could ask to go and talk some sense into him.
Not that you are incapable of putting the point across but he might be more receptive to someone of similar age if he thinks there is an age barrier to advice.
Though Sir Jibbey that could have been handed a bit gentler. Cat was only trying to help in her own way.
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My sympathies, Dawn. (Though what's with the girlfriend having your dad's credit card info? Is that normal in most relationships?)
I know you don't want to give the dogs away, but if necessary be all clingy, selfish, immature child about it. No giving pets away. That is just no. Shouldn't be done. I really hope things get better for you. (Also, if you know your father's friend's number, can you ask him for some potential help?)
I know you don't want to give the dogs away, but if necessary be all clingy, selfish, immature child about it. No giving pets away. That is just no. Shouldn't be done. I really hope things get better for you. (Also, if you know your father's friend's number, can you ask him for some potential help?)
He's never met her and he gave her his credit card info. I told him not to, but he "loves her".
I really don't want to give them away, my dad doesn't either, but each day we keep thinking about it. I really hope something comes through in the end. I don't have his friends number and he feels "awkward" speaking to me because I'm a young female. I'm not a child though... we can speak like the adults we are. -__- Some men are weird.
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Dawn did you confront him about his expenses regarding his girlfriend? The best way to get through financial hard times is to take into account exactly how much goes in and out, preferable write everything down on a paper. Try to eliminate obsolete expenses (such as the $40 dominoes) and try to increase the income if possible. It's very hard and awkward to talk about finances with your parents when things don't go your way, but if your dad is acting irresponsible then for both your sakes and your dogs you need to bite the bullet in this one and confront the problem.
Don't act like a passive aggressive brat who acts up because she doesn't get what she wants
Don't act like a passive aggressive brat who acts up because she doesn't get what she wants
I have confronted him. A few days ago he got a new card and he keeps forgetting to get it activated. Even though I tell him every morning before he goes to work. I'm the one that checks his account online because he doesn't know how to internet. Most of the outgoing stuff is from RI (where she lives). Whenever she gets angry she ignores him, sometimes for days. She only talks to him when she wants money. He knows that, but I guess doesn't care.
Yikes. Maybe he should take the money he was giving to her and find a good therapist instead.
I hate to say this, but it might be time to consider other living arrangements, such as away from your dad. I believe in supporting family and all that, but it's hard to be supportive when you're being dragged down as well. Your dad is an adult, and so are you, and you don't have to go along with his every whim. I'm not suggesting you abandon him but simply step back for a while if you can. If you're going without food for days at a time because he gives away money to some random woman he's never met, then that's not right.
Also, I second what Pierre's suggestion of reaching out to other family members. You guys need help, as you've said.
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He's never met her and he gave her his credit card info. I told him not to, but he "loves her".
...no offense - or take offense, if you want to - but your father is acting like an idiot. Now I'll wait for the explosion that is the revelation that his girlfriend is A) a 12-year-old who thinks this is all a joke B) a middle-aged, already married woman or C) a hooker.
(Or a man)We could make assumptions of this being a weird phase he's going through, after your mother left him, and suddenly getting a GF without meeting her and giving her his credit card info is just... a bad consequence of that.
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General Luigi wrote:
It seems to me as though your father is simply being used, Shimakaze. I just wish I knew of an effective way to get him to see that.
No way. Seriously? Well, maybe if Dawn moved out and he realized he's alone - or by flat out telling him what is going on. Worst case scenario, he will only notice it when she has taken all the money and dumped him.
"I've had a bad day and don't want to take it out on you, but how about you mooch off your father?"
Am I the only one who gets a very mixed message from that? (Semi-rhetorical question)
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General Luigi wrote:
It seems to me as though your father is simply being used, Shimakaze. I just wish I knew of an effective way to get him to see that.
No way. Seriously? Well, maybe if Dawn moved out and he realized he's alone - or by flat out telling him what is going on. Worst case scenario, he will only notice it when she has taken all the money and dumped him.
"I've had a bad day and don't want to take it out on you, but how about you mooch off your father?"
Am I the only one who gets a very mixed message from that? (Semi-rhetorical question)
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Y'know normally when people say "Worst Case Scenario" it's followed by an example showing it's not as bad as people would think. Her dad ending up penniless and abused seems like a straight terrible scenario.
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Y'know normally when people say "Worst Case Scenario" it's followed by an example showing it's not as bad as people would think. Her dad ending up penniless and abused seems like a straight terrible scenario.
That makes no sense. If I am talking about a worst case scenario, I would mention the worst possible outcome.
What's the point of mentioning a worst case scenario that is, in fact, not the worst possible outcome?
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CatMuto wrote:
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Y'know normally when people say "Worst Case Scenario" it's followed by an example showing it's not as bad as people would think. Her dad ending up penniless and abused seems like a straight terrible scenario.
That makes no sense. If I am talking about a worst case scenario, I would mention the worst possible outcome.
What's the point of mentioning a worst case scenario that is, in fact, not the worst possible outcome?l
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Because the "worst case scenario" is different for everyone.
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DoMaya Blackquill wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Y'know normally when people say "Worst Case Scenario" it's followed by an example showing it's not as bad as people would think. Her dad ending up penniless and abused seems like a straight terrible scenario.
That makes no sense. If I am talking about a worst case scenario, I would mention the worst possible outcome.
What's the point of mentioning a worst case scenario that is, in fact, not the worst possible outcome?l
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Because the "worst case scenario" is different for everyone.
Exactly normally you would use "Worst Case Scenario" on someone who is "Catastrophising" and is blowing things out of proportion. For example:
"I messed up at work! I'm going to lose my job! My wife's going to leave me because of this! I may as well hang myself now!"
Then someone would say: "Calm down, worst case scenario you lose your job, you don't know what'll happen from then on out. You can recover."
It's just how that expression is normally used.
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I really don't understand the tendency of English dubs to remove a character's penchant for referring to themselves in the third person. The logic behind it is that if the character does this to sound cute or immature, it doesn't really work in English because we hear it as being narcissistic. Well folks, I have 16 words for you...
"Elmo talks about himself in the third person all the time, and Elmo doesn't sound narcissistic."
If you just read that in Elmo's voice, congratulations, you know what I'm talking about. Even if you don't think Elmo sounds "cute" when he refers to himself in the third person, you have to admit he at least sounds immature as opposed to narcissistic. Aside from that, as long as the voice actor says the lines just right, it can't be that difficult to get the original connotations across. Ergo, I see no reason to change it.
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"Elmo talks about himself in the third person all the time, and Elmo doesn't sound narcissistic."
BUT... Elmo has a majorly obnoxious voice.
Personally, I think the problem can arise easily because, well, we're the west and stupid, hence we don't see that a person referring to themselves in the 3rd person is talking about themselves, only in 3rd person. Then again, I've encountered problems in, say, manga translations of that. In GALS! there's Miyu, who I didn't learn until the 5th volume that she actually talks via 3rd person. The volume after that, I saw that Aya - a different character - suddenly said "She" (as in, Aya) was working at an umbrella stand at the beach... when it had been Miyu who did that and was translated and shown as such in the previous chapter.
So either someone didn't notice who the fuck was talking OR they got the memo of "Miyu talkes in 3rd person, so Miyu = I" and took it too seriously for every occurence with Miyu. Which also makes no sense, because that's the only time it happens.
Plus, I know characters who talk in 3rd person and are supposed to be seen as snotty. Mizuki Sudou from TokiMemo Girl's Side.
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This doesn't really grind my gears enough to post in the other thread, but it still bugs me, so I'll post it here.
I really don't understand the tendency of English dubs to remove a character's penchant for referring to themselves in the third person. The logic behind it is that if the character does this to sound cute or immature, it doesn't really work in English because we hear it as being narcissistic. Well folks, I have 16 words for you...
"Elmo talks about himself in the third person all the time, and Elmo doesn't sound narcissistic."
If you just read that in Elmo's voice, congratulations, you know what I'm talking about. Even if you don't think Elmo sounds "cute" when he refers to himself in the third person, you have to admit he at least sounds immature as opposed to narcissistic. Aside from that, as long as the voice actor says the lines just right, it can't be that difficult to get the original connotations across. Ergo, I see no reason to change it.
I really don't understand the tendency of English dubs to remove a character's penchant for referring to themselves in the third person. The logic behind it is that if the character does this to sound cute or immature, it doesn't really work in English because we hear it as being narcissistic. Well folks, I have 16 words for you...
"Elmo talks about himself in the third person all the time, and Elmo doesn't sound narcissistic."
If you just read that in Elmo's voice, congratulations, you know what I'm talking about. Even if you don't think Elmo sounds "cute" when he refers to himself in the third person, you have to admit he at least sounds immature as opposed to narcissistic. Aside from that, as long as the voice actor says the lines just right, it can't be that difficult to get the original connotations across. Ergo, I see no reason to change it.
Eh sounds like the problem is more with the tone of voice and delivery rather than the message being delivered in Third Person.
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This doesn't really grind my gears enough to post in the other thread, but it still bugs me, so I'll post it here.
I really don't understand the tendency of English dubs to remove a character's penchant for referring to themselves in the third person. The logic behind it is that if the character does this to sound cute or immature, it doesn't really work in English because we hear it as being narcissistic. Well folks, I have 16 words for you...
"Elmo talks about himself in the third person all the time, and Elmo doesn't sound narcissistic."
If you just read that in Elmo's voice, congratulations, you know what I'm talking about. Even if you don't think Elmo sounds "cute" when he refers to himself in the third person, you have to admit he at least sounds immature as opposed to narcissistic. Aside from that, as long as the voice actor says the lines just right, it can't be that difficult to get the original connotations across. Ergo, I see no reason to change it.
I really don't understand the tendency of English dubs to remove a character's penchant for referring to themselves in the third person. The logic behind it is that if the character does this to sound cute or immature, it doesn't really work in English because we hear it as being narcissistic. Well folks, I have 16 words for you...
"Elmo talks about himself in the third person all the time, and Elmo doesn't sound narcissistic."
If you just read that in Elmo's voice, congratulations, you know what I'm talking about. Even if you don't think Elmo sounds "cute" when he refers to himself in the third person, you have to admit he at least sounds immature as opposed to narcissistic. Aside from that, as long as the voice actor says the lines just right, it can't be that difficult to get the original connotations across. Ergo, I see no reason to change it.
To be honest, I don't think anyone but Elmo can get away with referring to themselves in the third person without sounding stupid or full of themselves.
It's just weird to hear in the English language in my opinion (or at least in the US). I don't remember growing up referring to myself in the third person, and I don't remember anyone else doing the same. Yes, I realize you're speaking of fiction here, but I think if anyone talks that way normally, then it has to be some really weird, out there, probably not human character, or else it doesn't work.
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Pierre wrote:
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This doesn't really grind my gears enough to post in the other thread, but it still bugs me, so I'll post it here.
I really don't understand the tendency of English dubs to remove a character's penchant for referring to themselves in the third person. The logic behind it is that if the character does this to sound cute or immature, it doesn't really work in English because we hear it as being narcissistic. Well folks, I have 16 words for you...
"Elmo talks about himself in the third person all the time, and Elmo doesn't sound narcissistic."
If you just read that in Elmo's voice, congratulations, you know what I'm talking about. Even if you don't think Elmo sounds "cute" when he refers to himself in the third person, you have to admit he at least sounds immature as opposed to narcissistic. Aside from that, as long as the voice actor says the lines just right, it can't be that difficult to get the original connotations across. Ergo, I see no reason to change it.
I really don't understand the tendency of English dubs to remove a character's penchant for referring to themselves in the third person. The logic behind it is that if the character does this to sound cute or immature, it doesn't really work in English because we hear it as being narcissistic. Well folks, I have 16 words for you...
"Elmo talks about himself in the third person all the time, and Elmo doesn't sound narcissistic."
If you just read that in Elmo's voice, congratulations, you know what I'm talking about. Even if you don't think Elmo sounds "cute" when he refers to himself in the third person, you have to admit he at least sounds immature as opposed to narcissistic. Aside from that, as long as the voice actor says the lines just right, it can't be that difficult to get the original connotations across. Ergo, I see no reason to change it.
Eh sounds like the problem is more with the tone of voice and delivery rather than the message being delivered in Third Person.
My thoughts exactly. Building off of the Doctor's example (not to mention I've forgotten what Elmo sounds like), I think the Nopon do a good job of demonstrating how using the third person doesn't necessarily imply narcissism. Then again, that may be more because of their peculiar dialect than their tone and/or delivery.
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Yes, it can happen... with the hymen! (Though the hymen is not an organ) And only during certain, more strenuous activities, like being very active and sporty, almost to the extreme. During swimming, hell, it can happen during masturbation. But that's because the hymen is a very thin and actually rather soft membrane. (Well, it at least gets softer during puberty, as it has to, in order to allow period blood to leave...)
But uteruseseses? Well, uteri. No! Your uterus CAN'T fall out when you're jogging. You know why? Same reason why your stomach doesn't explode when you overeat: PRESSURE! There is a shit ton of pressure inside your body, with all your organs quetsched in there, so they cannot really expand beyond a certain degree.
And no, thinking your uterus fell out or got loose IS NOT EVEN A FUNNY JOKE! It just makes you look stupid to the degree that I want to send you back to FIFTH grade, as the latest class, to learn basic anatomy and biology again. (And kindly don't even think of repeating this as a joke. To quite Nostalgia Critic: Not funny + Not funny + Not funny = NOT FUCKING FUNNY!)
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I'm losing all 3 of my dogs.
Belle was given away.
Optimus Prime is getting picked up tomorrow and I have to find someone or a shelter to take Chico.
I was talking to Daniel, thinking he'd make me feel better but no, he made me feel worse. He's pissed off with me because I said I wasn't into the show "Misfits". He said I was 'rude'. Granted I am rude when he asks me to watch things, but this time I wasn't rude at all. I gave the show a chance when I first heard about it and I didn't like it. Just because we're together doesn't mean we have to care about every god damn thing.
I'm losing my dogs, but by all means be mad over the fact that I don't like a show.
Thanks for being there for me. Not.
I don't even care if he sees this at this point. I'm over it.
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More importantly, though I know it probably doesn't help much, sorry to hear about your dogs. I was getting worried about you and Danny as we haven't heard.from.you in a while. Then I was happy to see you'd came back but saw it was in the vent thread and feared it was bad.
What happened though? Last I remember things were going slightly better, your dad had two of your dogs and you had one. One of your family.members was talking about someone else coming to stay I remember and they were apprehensive about your big old dog. How'd things turn so bad?
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I had Chico at my aunt's house and things looked promising for the studio apartment my dad went to go see, but then the guy tells him that it was already sold. Meaning sold before my dad went to go see it.
He,my mom and the other 2 dogs stayed in a pet friendly motel for a bit. It was a lot of money though.
My mom is going to Florida (she says tomorrow but idk). She was gonna take Belle but a family member that she's going to be living with said she already has 3 dogs.
Belle was given to a family member 2 hours away.
A friend of our family is picking up Optimus later (since it's passed midnight here already) and now I have to look to where I can take Chico because he can't stay here. Their lease only allows for 2 pets. Unfortunately.
I've been crying non-stop over this, but I guess Daniel doesn't understand. Idk. I'm just upset that instead of comforting me, he lashed out over a god damn tv show. Then sent me a passive aggressive good night text.
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So is your mum out of that relationship with that bad guy now? You said she was off to stay with family?
You might not consider it much of a bright side but at least Optimus and Belle arent entirely out of reach and are still with people you know. Gives you a chance to get them back once you get a more stable life.
Pretty foul move to sell the flat without a word to your Dad though
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Granted I am rude when he asks me to watch things, but this time I wasn't rude at all. I gave the show a chance when I first heard about it and I didn't like it. Just because we're together doesn't mean we have to care about every god damn thing.
Absolutely. My husband and I don't care about the same things - he likes Game Grumps, RWBY (RBWY... whichever) and such and while he does send me links to it or talks about it, he never demands I like it. Same on my side... though I tend to easily get obsessed with things and bombard him with pictures or jokes about it... but we both are okay with that.
So sorry to hear about having to give your dogs away. I had to give one cat away years ago and I hated it, I broke down in the house when we gave her over. Though it was honestly for her best, she was too used to having a garden anymore.
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My mom is going to Florida (she says tomorrow but idk).
Yah, like Pierre, wondering if she's still with that dude or single or with someone else?
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Does sound like a bit of a misstep on Danny's part but I'm sure if he read this and knew just how you felt he'd change his tune quick. I don't think Danny is THAT insensitive to keep being passive aggressive once he knew the cause of your worries.
I dunno, maybe I'm misinterpreting the text, but it sounded like she did tell him about the dogs and he was focusing on the show.
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Why do people keep blocking or setting me on ignore on things? If you can't handle discussions (with me), GET OFF THE FUCKING INTERNET! Especially if it's about something like rape in Yaoi. You don't like it, Fine. Other people enjoy it and those people AREN'T rapists or sick freaks. Let them enjoy it! Become tolerant of that before you demand the world bend to your fucking wishes, bitch.
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Er no?
It makes perfect sense for people to block and ignore you before outright leaving a place. They might like other elements of a place, their friends might be there. If they have umbrage with one person then a block setting allows them to remain on a place without running into any further conflict with that person. It's an inelegant solution compared to resolving differences but it'll make do where that doesn't seem possible. Blocking people is hardly "demanding the world bend to their wishes." That would be going to a Mod and demanding the person is banned.
Also I feel you answer your own question:
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Become tolerant of that before you demand the world bend to your fucking wishes, bitch.
You are quite distinctly critical and vocal about things that displease you Cat.
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And excuse me? Just clicking ignore? Hey, can you imagine doing that in an ACTUAL, real life discussion? You know, in a room where the whole purpose is to discuss a certain topic? Someone is about to counter your argument on a logical basis, then you suddenly plug your ears and go "LALALALALAICAN'THEARYOULALALALALA!!" and leave the room? Excuse me, which one looks more immature and stupid here: the person being ignored or the ignorer?
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But I don't say "Your opinion is stupid, which makes you stupid". I may not like someone else's opinion, but I don't deny them theirs. .
Sure you do Cat
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America's solution to the most recent event of civilians killing other people with guns? BUY MORE GUNS. How fucking stupid are you people?
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I KNEW you'd fucking mention her and I am sick of it. You come across like all the other people who whine and complain about Lightning, yet obviously never paid a lick of attention to what is going on in XIII. She changed in XIII, hey, remember that scene with Snow around Chapter 11, at the meadow, with the huge dandelions? That is not a scene that a stoic character would have.
But you never mentioned they were bothering you about it in that kinda way. Only that they were blocking and ignoring you. If they are harassing you over your opinion then sure you've got a case.
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And excuse me? Just clicking ignore? Hey, can you imagine doing that in an ACTUAL, real life discussion? You know, in a room where the whole purpose is to discuss a certain topic? Someone is about to counter your argument on a logical basis, then you suddenly plug your ears and go "LALALALALAICAN'THEARYOULALALALALA!!" and leave the room? Excuse me, which one looks more immature and stupid here: the person being ignored or the ignorer?
No but a forum is not the 'real world' so to speak. The same social rules don't apply. I think it's probably quite mature of the person to just block the offender (in their eyes) as it's them detaching from the situation entirely. Nothing to get angry about, no cause for argument. In my honest opinion it makes the person being ignored look more immature for not understanding the other individuals' desire not to talk about it.
To use your real life metaphor, to me it's like one individual holding their hands up and saying "I don't really want to talk about this," and then turning to talk to someone else in the room while the ignored grabs their shoulder and says "NOW YOU LISTEN HERE!"
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It wasn't a forum. And quite honestly, you do not stop a discussion on your side and block the other participant by saying things that are obviously inviting for more discussion. You want to stop a discussion, you say, "I can see that we will not see eye-to-eye on this. Let us both back down and let this rest". And not "Well, I think (bla bla discuss of topic)" and then hit block. That's an insult and slamming the door in someone's face.
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If it's not a forum what was it? Really it applies to any virtual kind of message board.
I'm sorry you feel insulted by it but it's entirely their choice to continue the conversation. If they don't feel it's going to be a fruitful one then they are perfectly entitled to block you on the matter.
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Pierre wrote:
Does sound like a bit of a misstep on Danny's part but I'm sure if he read this and knew just how you felt he'd change his tune quick. I don't think Danny is THAT insensitive to keep being passive aggressive once he knew the cause of your worries.
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I dunno, maybe I'm misinterpreting the text, but it sounded like she did tell him about the dogs and he was focusing on the show.
He apologized to me the following day.
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So is your mum out of that relationship with that bad guy now? You said she was off to stay with family?
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Yah, like Pierre, wondering if she's still with that dude or single or with someone else?
After he went to prison, she cut ties with him. Since then she's had 3 separate "flings". I'm not sure who's she's with now. She drove to Florida yesterday (Thursday) and didn't say goodbye to me. She stayed at my grandma's house for the night and that's a block away from where I am (aunt's house) and she didn't even pass by. She didn't even call or text so I don't know how to react, but I guess I'm feeling abandoned and unwanted. /shrug
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You might not consider it much of a bright side but at least Optimus and Belle arent entirely out of reach and are still with people you know. Gives you a chance to get them back once you get a more stable life.
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So sorry to hear about having to give your dogs away. I had to give one cat away years ago and I hated it, I broke down in the house when we gave her over. Though it was honestly for her best, she was too used to having a garden anymore.
It really sucks. I raised them since they were puppies. I'm holding in all my emotions, but I know I'm gonna explode when I have to give Chico away. Which will be soon, unfortunately.
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Excuse me, I am supposed to laugh at you about this, right? Do not try to play a race card here - race has nothing to do with it. It all depends on the movie, the characters and performances in it. You want a black to be nominated? They need to put a dang good job, then. Do NOT try to guilt us into GIVING you an Oscar, just cause you's black!
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Yes, the boycott wasn't what I'd call the ideal response to the list of nominees. Their approach unintentionally suggests that what they're complaining about is a simple matter of black people not getting nominated. It's really only an attempt to get at the real problem: major roles likely to get a nomination go to white people far too often, which just happens to manifest itself in black people often receiving no nominations.
For the most part, society has reached what I'd call a new stage in prejudice compared to the way things were back in the 1950s: rather than people consciously attempting to hinder minorities, people are acting unconsciously based on biases they don't even realize are there. That's what we're seeing here with the Oscars.
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I don't care about this Oscar thing. I have seen black or other non-white people get nominated. I think it's just pure coincidence that the nominees are white this year. If they are honestly SO bothered by this, why doesn't a group of black people just get together, create their own movie with a full-black cast, with full-black producers, executives, etc? If they are then still rejected, I might see that this is a racism thing. As it is, maybe the movies with blacks in them were just not good enough this year.
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My take is that it'd be damn hard to declare the nominations are racist without some kind of substantial proof. To declare its racist kinda makes light of the actual talents of the actors nominated. It insults them so to speak as presumably they are quite talented so as bearers of talent its hard to deny they are deserving of a spot in the nominations.
It might be a case of long standing bias subconsciously acting upon the judges who determine the nominees though. They recognise black actors as talented in their deliberations but years and years of social conditioning and idolisation of white actors have led them to have this ideal image of an award winner in their head.
"Hmm both the black and white actors are exceptionally good...its really tough to call but I think the white actors performance is better"
Art is an amazingly subjective thing at high levels so there may not be intended racism here. If there was some kind of machine that could judge them objectively it could say that both performances are better.
But the judges can't explain why but feel the white actor's performance was better.
Claims of racism are going to be impossible to prove in this case I believe.
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But the judges can't explain why but feel the white actor's performance was better.
Then change the judges.
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But the judges can't explain why but feel the white actor's performance was better.
Then change the judges.
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You can't change the judges for something as simple (and even more impossible to prove) as "subconscious racism". Remember in my example both black and white actors had given equal performances. There isn't really anything wrong with the decision.
There's 4 nominations, the judges have a mindset who the top 3 are and they make the list. They are white actors whose performances were fantastic (though no doubt they owe a bit to their directors and writers as well who are also up for different awards for the same film). It comes down to choosing the last one and these performances are between a black and white actor. Both are equally deserving, it's practically a flip of the coin which one gets chosen.
You could (they might already do, I know little of the proceedings) ensure there is a variety of ethnicities in the judges but it's little more than a pretty PR job if they did as subconscious memes and ideas can just as easily affect other ethnicities as well.
If you say "You need to change the judges because they MIGHT be subconsciously biased towards white people," then you don't really have a case to stand on, it essentially puts you in the same boat as the black protestors you highlighted as you are basically demanding a recount without any proof of racism. It's possible that it's having an influence but by it's very nature subconscious beliefs will be impossible to prove as the believer themself is not aware of them.
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