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First off, I believe it should only be reserved for heinous killings, (Murder of someone under 14, Mass Murder/Serial Killings, Murder during commission of another offense, etc.) Any other serious offense (Attempted Murder, Rape/Sexual Assault etc.) should get around at least 25 years.
There must have been a fair trial for the accused and there must be no reasonable doubt that the offender committed the murder/killings.
I'm not for things to carry out Capital Punishment, like Guillotine, Stoning etc. that resemble extreme methods of killings to carry out the punishment. The electric chair and one bullet to the back of the head would seem fitting enough. Lethal Injection is also workable in my mind.
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I don't really think death is a good punishment for rape or something, i think 5 years jail, and if repeat again, then execution.
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If they are a serial murderer, then EXECUTION.
I don't really think death is a good punishment for rape or something, i think 5 years jail, and if repeat again, then execution.
I don't really think death is a good punishment for rape or something, i think 5 years jail, and if repeat again, then execution.
Rape - 25 years 1st offense, Life Sentence Repeat Offense
But your opinion makes a lot more sense than a lot of people on the net.
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Another matter to be considered is the psychological torture the death penalty brings. When you are sentenced to death, you know there is no way out, no matter what happens to you. There is no chance of redemption in society's eyes; you will die hated, even if you regret your actions. You also know the time and place of your death. With murder, the victim is completely unaware of his or her fate until the end, but with the death penalty, the condemned often spends years knowing that they are going to die on a specific date at a specific location by a specific method--a state of hopelessness that I doubt any of us could imagine.
Simply put, I disapprove of the death penalty. I understand some of the reasoning behind it, but at the same time, I believe it tortures the condemned beyond what any human should feel.
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I totally agree.
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Just no.
Wish I could say more but I'm very strongly against physical harm of any kind.
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General Luigi wrote:
One thing that needs to be considered is what prison is for. Is its sole purpose only to punish, or does it also exist to rehabilitate criminals so that they will not break the law again? As long as a criminal is alive, he or she may be able to change. That's why many criminals are ultimately released from prison, as well as why parole exists. However, with the death penalty, the criminal has no hope of changing his or her ways. In the case of a life sentence, though the criminal may not be released from prison, he or she may still change and die a good person.
I fairly understand where your coming from on this. I agree that a large portion of criminals can be rehabilitated (Although many people believe otherwise in any circumstance *Cough SexOffender Cough*
The two issues I have with life sentences for murderers (And for all prisoners, but I only approve of death for murderers.) is the large cost of keeping them in jail and the threat of the criminal breaking out of jail and going on the run.
Another matter to be considered is the psychological torture the death penalty brings. When you are sentenced to death, you know there is no way out, no matter what happens to you.
There is no chance of redemption in society's eyes; you will die hated, even if you regret your actions.
Because that's what you deserve to be seen in the public's eyes. When you kill over two people that is. (And not mentally insane/retarted etc.)
You also know the time and place of your death. With murder, the victim is completely unaware of his or her fate until the end, but with the death penalty, the condemned often spends years knowing that they are going to die on a specific date at a specific location by a specific method--a state of hopelessness that I doubt any of us could imagine.
Simply put, I disapprove of the death penalty. I understand some of the reasoning behind it, but at the same time, I believe it tortures the condemned beyond what any human should feel.
I fairly understand where your coming from on this. I agree that a large portion of criminals can be rehabilitated (Although many people believe otherwise in any circumstance *Cough SexOffender Cough*
The two issues I have with life sentences for murderers (And for all prisoners, but I only approve of death for murderers.) is the large cost of keeping them in jail and the threat of the criminal breaking out of jail and going on the run.
Another matter to be considered is the psychological torture the death penalty brings. When you are sentenced to death, you know there is no way out, no matter what happens to you.
There is no chance of redemption in society's eyes; you will die hated, even if you regret your actions.
Because that's what you deserve to be seen in the public's eyes. When you kill over two people that is. (And not mentally insane/retarted etc.)
You also know the time and place of your death. With murder, the victim is completely unaware of his or her fate until the end, but with the death penalty, the condemned often spends years knowing that they are going to die on a specific date at a specific location by a specific method--a state of hopelessness that I doubt any of us could imagine.
Simply put, I disapprove of the death penalty. I understand some of the reasoning behind it, but at the same time, I believe it tortures the condemned beyond what any human should feel.
I understand where you appear to be coming from on this. Of course you have to consider the offender themselves. Now I'd like to point out that I don't believe the most violent killers and sex offenders are animals or anything but human. There has to be a form of punishment for violent serial killers and mass murderers who would most likely not change in prison. I feel that the death penalty is the only way to fit that punishment.
I'll say it again, I do not approve of going to barbaric tactics like Guillotine, Stoning to make use of the Death Penalty. However there are some offenders who I see fit to use Capital Punishment on.
I do however disagree on how a large majority of the American population wants Capital Punishment to be carried out. But I will only bring up my thoughts on that if asked.
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My opinion? Capital punishment should definitely be there for serial killers, mass murderers, etc. but one must at least give them a chance, they probably have pychological problems so send them to a mental institute. Death penalty should only be resered for those most dangerous, unforgivable and horrible murderers. I don't think it is fair to take someone's life without giving them a chance and if they fail that chance, capital punishment (therefore I wouldn't feel guilty)
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Personally, I believe that anyone caught commiting any crime should get a fair trial and then the Death Penalty if found guilty. Next day executions if possible.
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I'm not going to talk about my real opinion on the methods though.
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ButzPuff wrote:
I believe that the Death Penalty isn't used enough. I'm gonna have to agree with everyone here that all the major criminals should be executed like murders, rapists etc.
I'm only for murderers being executed myself. However there is a fairly large amount of people who want to see child molesters be killed/tortured in the worst way possible.
Personally, I believe that anyone caught commiting any crime should get a fair trial and then the Death Penalty if found guilty. Next day executions if possible.
They have to prepare the execution LOL
I'm only for murderers being executed myself. However there is a fairly large amount of people who want to see child molesters be killed/tortured in the worst way possible.
Personally, I believe that anyone caught commiting any crime should get a fair trial and then the Death Penalty if found guilty. Next day executions if possible.
They have to prepare the execution LOL
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I fully support it and nobody's gonna change my mind. Some criminals deserve it (past examples include Timmothy McVeigh, Saddam, countlees others i can't remember the names of...) . And IMO lethal injection is too nice for some criminals. THE CHAIR FTW. Firing squad and hanging are behind it.
I'm not going to talk about my real opinion on the methods though.
I'm not going to talk about my real opinion on the methods though.
The Chair is too nice. Hanging is for suicidal people. Firing squads, now that I can get behind.
Personally, I like the good-old-french-fashion Gullotine myself. And don't give it's not humane crap. Many food production company that use chicken often behead the chickens this before they move on the rest of the meat production. We are trying to kill a criminal, not pamper him and be his caregiver. So what if the head is still alive for a few seconds? Off with his head, I say! And to think of all the high tech fun that could added with today's modern technology.
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ButzPuff wrote:
The Chair is too nice. Hanging is for suicidal people. Firing squads, now that I can get behind.
I can get behind Firing Squads.
Personally, I like the good-old-french-fashion Gullotine myself. And don't give it's not humane crap.
It's not humane. I just had to say that
Many food production company that use chicken often behead the chickens this before they move on the rest of the meat production. We are trying to kill a criminal, not pamper him and be his caregiver.
Sadly I think many jails in developed countries pamper the criminal. Except for the Maricopa County, AZ jail.
So what if the head is still alive for a few seconds? Off with his head, I say! And to think of all the high tech fun that could added with today's modern technology.
I can get behind Firing Squads.
Personally, I like the good-old-french-fashion Gullotine myself. And don't give it's not humane crap.
It's not humane. I just had to say that
Many food production company that use chicken often behead the chickens this before they move on the rest of the meat production. We are trying to kill a criminal, not pamper him and be his caregiver.
Sadly I think many jails in developed countries pamper the criminal. Except for the Maricopa County, AZ jail.
So what if the head is still alive for a few seconds? Off with his head, I say! And to think of all the high tech fun that could added with today's modern technology.
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Death isn't good enough a punishment in itself? Where are your brains at, the Middle Ages?
At least I'm not one of those EVERY PERSON WHO RAPED/KILLED A CHILD DESERVES TO BE SHOT/TORTURED ON FIRST SIGHT kind of person. Although I can see the direction you are coming from.
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You have to understand that some people find it extremely difficult to distinguish between what may be "right" or what may be "wrong", or are blinded by their own narrow-mindedness (or been brainwashed by others') so much so that they cannot make proper judgements (I was a right-old racist back in the day and wanted to kill Jews should I have been shot ???).
It's all relative; punishments are necessary but there should always be a chance to reform. Life sentences with parole are as fair and effective as it gets and it should stay that way.
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Wow, I like how EASY it is for some of you to go "hehe firing squad/gullotine/damongant" without considering how there are a plethora of external factors that affect one's behaviour.
You have to understand that some people find it extremely difficult to distinguish between what may be "right" or what may be "wrong", or are blinded by their own narrow-mindedness (or been brainwashed by others') so much so that they cannot make proper judgements
Some criminals are I'll give you that. But being blinded by their own narrow-mindedness is not an excuse.
(I was a right-old racist back in the day and wanted to kill Jews should I have been shot ???).
No you shouldn't since you didn't kill anybody.
It's all relative; punishments are necessary but there should always be a chance to reform. Life sentences with parole are as fair as it gets and it should stay that way.
Two things. One, some criminals have committed very henious offenses and should be punished accordingly. As long as they do not have mental issues or other things like that. Two you can always break out of jail, and when you have your whole life ahead of you in jail you don't have anything to lose.
EDIT: Rrrgh typos.
You have to understand that some people find it extremely difficult to distinguish between what may be "right" or what may be "wrong", or are blinded by their own narrow-mindedness (or been brainwashed by others') so much so that they cannot make proper judgements
Some criminals are I'll give you that. But being blinded by their own narrow-mindedness is not an excuse.
(I was a right-old racist back in the day and wanted to kill Jews should I have been shot ???).
No you shouldn't since you didn't kill anybody.
It's all relative; punishments are necessary but there should always be a chance to reform. Life sentences with parole are as fair as it gets and it should stay that way.
Two things. One, some criminals have committed very henious offenses and should be punished accordingly. As long as they do not have mental issues or other things like that. Two you can always break out of jail, and when you have your whole life ahead of you in jail you don't have anything to lose.
EDIT: Rrrgh typos.
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Some criminals are I'll give you that. But being blinded by their own narrow-mindedness is not an excuse.
I guess this part was phrased badly; it really depends on the quality of education said criminal received (by "education" I don't just mean what was learnt in school, btw)
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No you shouldn't since you didn't kill anybody.
Maybe that's because I was given a chance to reform? Back in Saudi Arabia things were mighty tense, especially in the aftermath of 9/11. Perhaps it was just overall maturity levels back then (I was 10 lol which makes this kind of a moot point?) but I did go to a school where we were taught by slightly-religious peoples (putting it lightly kekeke); most of my friends back there currently seem to be all FREE PALESTINE and JEWS DIE, and God knows what happened to my teachers. By some strange act of God (irony) I winded up in the UK after several years and...everything changed, really.
Idk mate, I'm the type of person who thinks hate crime is just as bad as physical crime if such physical acts are being seriously considered (only with limits such as they won't let me into Israel, at least).
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One, some criminals have committed very henious offenses and should be punished accordingly.
Agreed, although from your viewpoint wouldn't something like capital punishment be too lax of a punishment? I mean, you're just killing someone; setting them free, you know? No torture, no life imprisonment, I'd go so far as to call it highly-involuntary euthanasia if you look at it that way.
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Two you can always break out of jail, and when you have your whole life ahead of you in jail you don't have anything to lose.
Er what?
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Agreed, although from your viewpoint wouldn't something like capital punishment be too lax of a punishment? I mean, you're just killing someone; setting them free, you know? No torture, no life imprisonment, I'd go so far as to call it highly-involuntary euthanasia if you look at it that way.
I don't support torture, let me make that clear. And we would be setting them free so that no one would ever have to deal with them again.
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Er what?
I apologize, I did rephrase this badly. What I meant was, when your sentenced to life imprisonment with no chance of parole, you don't have anything left to look to in your future. If you break out of jail, you can obtain a new alias, a new life and forgot about your past criminal history and not have to worry about it. And if your cornered by Law Enforcement then you can shoot at them, forcing them to kill you or commit suicide.
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I apologize, . If you break out of jail, you can obtain a new alias, a new life and forgot about your past criminal history and not have to worry about it.
Or go out and kill again.
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And if your cornered by Law Enforcement then you can shoot at them, forcing them to kill you or commit suicide.
Which could cause the deaths of several cops.
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You aren't put to death for argueing with your husband XD
Although, some trials aren't all that fair.
The varibles are endless, the willingness of the jury, the attitude of the prosecutor, the attitiude of the victims family, the defence...
And maybe even class, race.
I still support the death penalty for murders.
Not manslaughters though...
But murders.
And maybe EXTREME torture
Possibly EXTREME rape.
But as for the way to die...
Hmm, It should be up to the dude getting killed XD
I think it is anyway though >.>
Fireing squad kinda scares me haha.
You get like, dehumanized.
I'm cool with the electric chair and lethal injection.
Not many people get executed anyway >.>
They are kinda just sitting on death row.
I think in 2004 there were over 3,341 people on death row, but only 70 or so actually executed.
Texas makes the most executions btw.
Its really uneven, most of the executions occur in 5 out of the 50 states. Over 80% actually.
And with the money thing, death penalty trials cost a lot of money anyway...
But If someone gets convicted at 30, and gets life in jail, they have approx. 50 or so more years.
Imagine taking care of a person for 50 years...
Taking care of a murderer for 50 years...
I couldn't do it XD
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I don't support torture, let me make that clear. And we would be setting them free so that no one would ever have to deal with them again.
Supporting electric chair over lethal injection means you are supporting torture.
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And we would be setting them free so that no one would ever have to deal with them again.
Fair enough, but no chance of redemption, i.e. contributing to the community in a positive way, even via prison?
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What I meant was, when your sentenced to life imprisonment with no chance of parole, you don't have anything left to look to in your future.
What are we talking about again?
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If you break out of jail, you can obtain a new alias, a new life and forgot about your past criminal history and not have to worry about it. And if your cornered by Law Enforcement then you can shoot at them, forcing them to kill you or commit suicide.
That's kind of a long shot I'd say, and the second sentence kind of makes the first one redundant if you were going to receive a death sentence anyway.
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And with the money thing, death penalty trials cost a lot of money anyway...
But If someone gets convicted at 30, and gets life in jail, they have approx. 50 or so more years.
Imagine taking care of a person for 50 years...
Taking care of a murderer for 50 years...
I couldn't do it XD
DP fo choo.
But If someone gets convicted at 30, and gets life in jail, they have approx. 50 or so more years.
Imagine taking care of a person for 50 years...
Taking care of a murderer for 50 years...
I couldn't do it XD
DP fo choo.
Exactly why i think life without parole is pointless. When someone gets life without parole it's our tax dollars that's keeping that piece of shit fed and alive for the rest of their life. Why should we pay for that?
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Yellow Magician wrote:
Agreed, although from your viewpoint wouldn't something like capital punishment be too lax of a punishment? I mean, you're just killing someone; setting them free, you know? No torture, no life imprisonment, I'd go so far as to call it highly-involuntary euthanasia if you look at it that way.
No. You're sending them to the one thing that can cause more pain than anything else- Hell. Eternal damnation. God's justice.
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General Luigi wrote:
Executions also cost a good amount of money.
Keeping criminals in jail also costs a good amount of money.
Although I agree with what you have said.
As for the issue of a criminal escaping, the same is true with the death sentence. In fact, if sentenced to death, a criminal is even more likely to try to escape, considering that they'll die if they don't escape.
I happen to see more cases where the fugitive was not sentenced to death who escaped. Although your opinion makes a lot of sense.
Finally, I know that not everyone can be rehabilitated, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve a chance.
I haven't said that all criminals don't deserve a chance. It's just when you commit such a offense such as mass murder/serial murder then you should not be allowed back into society. If the criminal is mental, then he/she goes to a mental hospital.
If the offender was convicted of attempted murder/rape/sexual assault then a fitting sentence of around 25 years would be fitting. If the offender convicted of another one of those crimes (Not Murder) then sentence him to life without parole. However rehabilitiation has dropped in popularity in the past couple of years with the added Sex Offender Laws and the like. And hasn't been used to its full potential.
Keeping criminals in jail also costs a good amount of money.
Although I agree with what you have said.
As for the issue of a criminal escaping, the same is true with the death sentence. In fact, if sentenced to death, a criminal is even more likely to try to escape, considering that they'll die if they don't escape.
I happen to see more cases where the fugitive was not sentenced to death who escaped. Although your opinion makes a lot of sense.
Finally, I know that not everyone can be rehabilitated, but that doesn't mean they don't deserve a chance.
I haven't said that all criminals don't deserve a chance. It's just when you commit such a offense such as mass murder/serial murder then you should not be allowed back into society. If the criminal is mental, then he/she goes to a mental hospital.
If the offender was convicted of attempted murder/rape/sexual assault then a fitting sentence of around 25 years would be fitting. If the offender convicted of another one of those crimes (Not Murder) then sentence him to life without parole. However rehabilitiation has dropped in popularity in the past couple of years with the added Sex Offender Laws and the like. And hasn't been used to its full potential.
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Or go out and kill again.
That or commit any other violent offense.
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Which could cause the deaths of several cops.
I apologize, . If you break out of jail, you can obtain a new alias, a new life and forgot about your past criminal history and not have to worry about it.
Or go out and kill again.
Which could cause the deaths of several cops.
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I apologize, . If you break out of jail, you can obtain a new alias, a new life and forgot about your past criminal history and not have to worry about it.
Or go out and kill again.
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And if your cornered by Law Enforcement then you can shoot at them, forcing them to kill you or commit suicide.
Which could cause the deaths of several cops.
That is a major issue now isn't it.
Fairly decent report you made SupwithyouSammie.
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Supporting electric chair over lethal injection means you are supporting torture.
I always considered torture to be extreme abuse over a long period of time. Except in some death penalty uses, Capital Punishment isn't really torture in my book.
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Fair enough, but no chance of redemption, i.e. contributing to the community in a positive way, even via prison?
I have no issue with that. Let them do it while their waiting for their execution (For those who have been sentenced to death.
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That's kind of a long shot I'd say, and the second sentence kind of makes the first one redundant if you were going to receive a death sentence anyway.
It has happened. Oh and when you are cornered by Law Enforcement, you can always put others at risk of being killed.
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I don't support torture, let me make that clear. And we would be setting them free so that no one would ever have to deal with them again.
Supporting electric chair over lethal injection means you are supporting torture.
Hm, not necessarily in my opinion.
What if some one is afraid of needles?
Torture.
Besides, if you get the electric chair, and your heart is still beating, your brain is dead.
No pain, basically you are dead.
The electric chair sends two pulses, the first one is strong and powerful, the killing shot.
The second one sends a lighter pulse, ment to confirm the death of the criminal.
Once a doctor confirms that the heart starts beating, they are legally executed.
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Agreed, although from your viewpoint wouldn't something like capital punishment be too lax of a punishment? I mean, you're just killing someone; setting them free, you know? No torture, no life imprisonment, I'd go so far as to call it highly-involuntary euthanasia if you look at it that way.
Didn't you just say that the electric chair over LI was torture?
Either way, If you hurt someone on purpose in such a horrible way to take their life, your life should be taken.
[edit, dang it, so many responces so fast XD
Also, at least these are better disscussions than the stupid kids in my class who are like
"YO I DO WEED SO I SHOULDN'T DIE. TEACHERS SHOULD DIE. "
Or like
"AYE, YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ARGUEMENT, YEAH YOU, YOU SUCK"
Edit, number 3 >.>
haha, I think when I'm done with the report I will post it.]
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1) Unsubstantial proof of capital punishment being a deterrent to crime.
2) Probability of false conviction. Reasonable doubt sometimes can't show itself with the technology we have. We've made a lot of advancements in this area, but we do often have failures. Men have been freed from death row because of new technology being used on old evidence.
I'm not the best at arguing this subject, though. When I get worked up over a case (read: Caylee Anthony, my pet case), I can often want the suspect to face the death sentence. But, if I step back and look, I change my mind.
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SupwithyouSammie wrote:
.Either way, If you hurt someone on purpose in such a horrible way to take their life, your life should be taken.
A lot of you guys don't seem to really understand what you're saying when you say this.
If you come across an older post of mine, sowwy
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In my opinion, the reason we have capital punishment is different from what people may claim. You may say "Oh we're stopping them from committing crime again" or "It's the only suitable punishment for their heinous offense" but I don't believe that's true. Life imprisonment will stop people from committing crimes again. And really, it's punishment enough for anyone. To have your life entirely and completely under someone else's control is the essence of a prison system.
I think that the reason we want capital punishment is nothing more or less than a desire for revenge. We (as humans) want the satisfaction of knowing that a person who has hurt us in some way (say by killing someone we loved) has been hurt and destroyed as well. And I don't think that this is productive in society. It accomplishes nothing whatsoever.
And one final thing I hate is its absolute irreversibility. Once you're dead, you're dead. It's over. Anything that might turn up later and prove your innocence will arrive too late.
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Someone's a serial killer. They get caught, put in prison. If they're executed, they're 'put out of their misery' and can go to the afterlife or whatever. Though they may fear dying, it's better than being in prison for life. And, they don't have to think about what they did anymore. It's over.
Now, life sentence in prison is MUCH WORSE. The person has to be in prison, thinking about what s/he has done until s/he dies. Almost nothing to help end the pain. Even if they're cold-hearted, it's all they have to think about. For the rest of their life, their crime, their arrest, their trial and being thrown in prison are the last things they remember.
So I do not believe in Capital Punishment. Let them rot in prison for life. No matter how cold-hearted or stupid they were.
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But at the same time, you might not of experienced that pain or want for "revenge"
I was reading an article about the death penalty that described this situation:
If a man steals your bicycle, you would be upset. If he got to keep the bicycle after he was found guilty, that would rule in many peoples minds as "unfair"
If a man steals a life, some would be upset. If he got to keep his life after he was found guilty, that should also be "unfair"
Sort of an "eye for an eye" way of thought.
Thats just the way I think things should be done at least.
It might not be "correct" but this isn't the
Your Correct thoughts on Capital Punishment.
With the Life sentence, I believe that that should be used for slightly lesser crimes; rape, torture, maybe assult?
But who knows how prison is after a while?
You don't have to worry about paying your bills, you get meals no matter how nasty they are, and they even give you an oppertunity to do things throughout the day, read or whatnot.
It reminds me of camp.
Except you pay for camp in a different way.
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The thought of giving the death penalty when being a Prosecutor sounds very scary.
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SupwithyouSammie wrote:
While I think there are more reasons than just that, both of you are still right.
But at the same time, you might not of experienced that pain or want for "revenge"
I was reading an article about the death penalty that described this situation:
If a man steals your bicycle, you would be upset. If he got to keep the bicycle after he was found guilty, that would rule in many peoples minds as "unfair"
If a man steals a life, some would be upset. If he got to keep his life after he was found guilty, that should also be "unfair"
Sort of an "eye for an eye" way of thought.
But at the same time, you might not of experienced that pain or want for "revenge"
I was reading an article about the death penalty that described this situation:
If a man steals your bicycle, you would be upset. If he got to keep the bicycle after he was found guilty, that would rule in many peoples minds as "unfair"
If a man steals a life, some would be upset. If he got to keep his life after he was found guilty, that should also be "unfair"
Sort of an "eye for an eye" way of thought.
That's just not a good analogy. This is life we're talking about.
He's not keeping a bicycle. He's remaining in this world.
An eye-for-an-eye isn't exactly something you should judge by. Things aren't that simple. Capital punishment itself is something complicated that goes well beyond just "what punishment should he receive"
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Yellow Magician wrote:
Wow, I like how EASY it is for some of you to go "hehe firing squad/gullotine/damongant" without considering how there are a plethora of external factors that affect one's behaviour.
You have to understand that some people find it extremely difficult to distinguish between what may be "right" or what may be "wrong", or are blinded by their own narrow-mindedness (or been brainwashed by others') so much so that they cannot make proper judgements (I was a right-old racist back in the day and wanted to kill Jews should I have been shot ???).
It's all relative; punishments are necessary but there should always be a chance to reform. Life sentences with parole are as fair and effective as it gets and it should stay that way.
EDIT: Rrrgh typos.
You have to understand that some people find it extremely difficult to distinguish between what may be "right" or what may be "wrong", or are blinded by their own narrow-mindedness (or been brainwashed by others') so much so that they cannot make proper judgements (I was a right-old racist back in the day and wanted to kill Jews should I have been shot ???).
It's all relative; punishments are necessary but there should always be a chance to reform. Life sentences with parole are as fair and effective as it gets and it should stay that way.
EDIT: Rrrgh typos.
The problem here is to choose whether you're letting them reform. Anything, EVER, that a person does can be blamed on circumstances, environment, or even upbringing. It's like those old Donald Duck strips where the criminal goes "but I had a bad childhood!" and tries to make people feel sorry for him. They don't. While you might be able to be "reformed" and, technically, it's not your fault, you're still a danger to society and should be seen as such and locked up. You're a problem just because you're so narrow-minded and through that, killed someone. This is not always fixable.
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