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Basically, what Regy and Yellow said above I agree with.
Someone's a serial killer. They get caught, put in prison. If they're executed, they're 'put out of their misery' and can go to the afterlife or whatever. Though they may fear dying, it's better than being in prison for life. And, they don't have to think about what they did anymore. It's over.
Now, life sentence in prison is MUCH WORSE. The person has to be in prison, thinking about what s/he has done until s/he dies. Almost nothing to help end the pain. Even if they're cold-hearted, it's all they have to think about. For the rest of their life, their crime, their arrest, their trial and being thrown in prison are the last things they remember.
So I do not believe in Capital Punishment. Let them rot in prison for life. No matter how cold-hearted or stupid they were.
Someone's a serial killer. They get caught, put in prison. If they're executed, they're 'put out of their misery' and can go to the afterlife or whatever. Though they may fear dying, it's better than being in prison for life. And, they don't have to think about what they did anymore. It's over.
Now, life sentence in prison is MUCH WORSE. The person has to be in prison, thinking about what s/he has done until s/he dies. Almost nothing to help end the pain. Even if they're cold-hearted, it's all they have to think about. For the rest of their life, their crime, their arrest, their trial and being thrown in prison are the last things they remember.
So I do not believe in Capital Punishment. Let them rot in prison for life. No matter how cold-hearted or stupid they were.
Does Charles Manson appear to be showing pain and remorse after all these years in prison?
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That's just not a good analogy. This is life we're talking about.
He's not keeping a bicycle. He's remaining in this world.
An eye-for-an-eye isn't exactly something you should judge by. Things aren't that simple. Capital punishment itself is something complicated that goes well beyond just "what punishment should he receive"
He's not keeping a bicycle. He's remaining in this world.
An eye-for-an-eye isn't exactly something you should judge by. Things aren't that simple. Capital punishment itself is something complicated that goes well beyond just "what punishment should he receive"
Haha I never said it was a good analogy.
I was just saying that that was how most people think.
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There's a few interpretations.
"Death Penalty for revenge"
You kill a killer. Does that make it okay? Because, since, technically, killing a killer makes you a killer too, regardless of kills the killer had, you see, you kill him, making you the killer. So who's going to kill the killer's killer? And who, exactly, is going to kill the killer's killer's killer? Because they killed a killer, no, the killed a killing person, no, they killed a human being. Making them a killer. What, now we're suddenly allowed to kill because killing the killer is convenient for us?
Any justice by death penalty is fake. Absolutely false. A complete farce.
Also, according to this way of thinking, shouldn't the rapist get raped? Boy I'd like to see that happen.
"Death penalty as prevention"
Okay. No. Look, what do you think drives a person to kill somebody? A serial killer, they're likely to be pronounced crazy and put in a madhouse. But the others? Even if they killed more than one person, they would have had a reason. Say a guy snaps, kills his family. That's a lot dead, would he get death penalty to stop him from killing again? Who would he kill? His family? His dead family? Killing isn't like smoking. You do it once, you might never do it again. Because I'm pretty sure the idea of having murdered somebody isn't very pleasant once you snap out of your rage and realise what you've done.
Also, criminals won't escape prison if you would just hire a decent guard. Srsly.
"Death penalty to get rid of 'em"
Look, if your jails are crammed, then seriously. You've got a problem with obsessive law enforcement. Or are you telling me that all those people, all of them, are serious criminals that really need to be kept locked away? If you answered yes, then you have no faith in humankind, my friend. Might as well start believing human is criminal by default. Why not support the idea of a destopia while you're at it. And don't forget, executions cost money. And there's going to be a waiting line. A long one. They can still escape and all like they could, according to you, if in life emprisonment.
Death penalty just isn't the solution.
Alternatively, we could also just kill everyone. Saves us the trouble of filtering out the criminals. Spread the hate!
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Greeny wrote:
"Death Penalty for revenge"
You kill a killer. Does that make it okay? Because, since, technically, killing a killer makes you a killer too, regardless of kills the killer had, you see, you kill him, making you the killer. So who's going to kill the killer's killer? And who, exactly, is going to kill the killer's killer's killer? Because they killed a killer, no, the killed a killing person, no, they killed a human being. Making them a killer. What, now we're suddenly allowed to kill because killing the killer is convenient for us?
You kill a killer. Does that make it okay? Because, since, technically, killing a killer makes you a killer too, regardless of kills the killer had, you see, you kill him, making you the killer. So who's going to kill the killer's killer? And who, exactly, is going to kill the killer's killer's killer? Because they killed a killer, no, the killed a killing person, no, they killed a human being. Making them a killer. What, now we're suddenly allowed to kill because killing the killer is convenient for us?
Agreed. As Mohandas Gandhi said, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
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Greeny wrote:
You kill a killer. Does that make it okay? Because, since, technically, killing a killer makes you a killer too, regardless of kills the killer had, you see, you kill him, making you the killer.
Objection. Murderers are guilty, executioners are justice. There's a difference. Murderers take innocent lives, executioners send them onward to God's justice.
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That would be sooo funny.
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The electric chair sends two pulses, the first one is strong and powerful, the killing shot.
The second one sends a lighter pulse, ment to confirm the death of the criminal.
The second one sends a lighter pulse, ment to confirm the death of the criminal.
Lethal injection works much the same way, and the first set of chemicals that enter the bloodstream won't actually hurt you. (but don't quote me on this)
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Didn't you just say that the electric chair over LI was torture?
Like I said, I was arguing from Skye's viewpoint.
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Anything, EVER, that a person does can be blamed on circumstances, environment, or even upbringing.
Yeah, this is why I'm against capital punishment, really. I don't mind someone being locked up because they're a nuisance to society, and also that's where reform comes in.
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Life imprisonment will stop people from committing crimes again.
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"Death Penalty for revenge"
You kill a killer. Does that make it okay? Because, since, technically, killing a killer makes you a killer too, regardless of kills the killer had, you see, you kill him, making you the killer. So who's going to kill the killer's killer? And who, exactly, is going to kill the killer's killer's killer? Because they killed a killer, no, the killed a killing person, no, they killed a human being. Making them a killer. What, now we're suddenly allowed to kill because killing the killer is convenient for us?
You kill a killer. Does that make it okay? Because, since, technically, killing a killer makes you a killer too, regardless of kills the killer had, you see, you kill him, making you the killer. So who's going to kill the killer's killer? And who, exactly, is going to kill the killer's killer's killer? Because they killed a killer, no, the killed a killing person, no, they killed a human being. Making them a killer. What, now we're suddenly allowed to kill because killing the killer is convenient for us?
I have never said that I approve of people going out onto the street and killing all the murderers and sex offenders (Even those that have finished their sentencing). What your quote is refering to is something that is not acceptable.
However when the court system rules the sentence of Capital Punishment, it would not be a crime. As long as it would be the executioners killing the suspect in the death chamber. (Or whatever they call it, I forget)
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"Death penalty as prevention"
Okay. No. Look, what do you think drives a person to kill somebody? A serial killer, they're likely to be pronounced crazy and put in a madhouse. But the others? Even if they killed more than one person, they would have had a reason. Say a guy snaps, kills his family. That's a lot dead, would he get death penalty to stop him from killing again? Who would he kill? His family? His dead family? Killing isn't like smoking. You do it once, you might never do it again. Because I'm pretty sure the idea of having murdered somebody isn't very pleasant once you snap out of your rage and realise what you've done.
Okay. No. Look, what do you think drives a person to kill somebody? A serial killer, they're likely to be pronounced crazy and put in a madhouse. But the others? Even if they killed more than one person, they would have had a reason. Say a guy snaps, kills his family. That's a lot dead, would he get death penalty to stop him from killing again? Who would he kill? His family? His dead family? Killing isn't like smoking. You do it once, you might never do it again. Because I'm pretty sure the idea of having murdered somebody isn't very pleasant once you snap out of your rage and realise what you've done.
Mass murder is a very, very serious offense. Life imprisonment at least, but Capital Punishment should remain the primary option.
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Also, criminals won't escape prison if you would just hire a decent guard. Srsly.
You have to hire a decent guard. Plus fugitives have broken out of prisons by elaborate plans that the prison system would probably never see coming.
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"Death penalty to get rid of 'em"
Look, if your jails are crammed, then seriously. You've got a problem with obsessive law enforcement. Or are you telling me that all those people, all of them, are serious criminals that really need to be kept locked away? If you answered yes, then you have no faith in humankind, my friend. Might as well start believing human is criminal by default. Why not support the idea of a destopia while you're at it. And don't forget, executions cost money. And there's going to be a waiting line. A long one. They can still escape and all like they could, according to you, if in life emprisonment.
Death penalty just isn't the solution.
Look, if your jails are crammed, then seriously. You've got a problem with obsessive law enforcement. Or are you telling me that all those people, all of them, are serious criminals that really need to be kept locked away? If you answered yes, then you have no faith in humankind, my friend. Might as well start believing human is criminal by default. Why not support the idea of a destopia while you're at it. And don't forget, executions cost money. And there's going to be a waiting line. A long one. They can still escape and all like they could, according to you, if in life emprisonment.
Death penalty just isn't the solution.
You bring up an interesting point. However your point can easily be solved by not jailing non-felony offenders and actually getting dangerous people into jail for a fairly long time. 25 year minimum for Attempted Murder, Sexual Assualt and Rape. 10 year minimum for Armed Robbery, Kidnapping, Distribution Of Drugs and Forgery. And 5 year minimum for Possession Of Child Pornography
People charged with a weed pipe/marijuana pipe in their car should not go to jail.
Once you get the non-violent offenders out of jail, you can get the new offenders into jail with stiffer sentences since there would be more room to put them all in.
I know executions cost money kay. Both keeping them in jail and executing them costs money.
Escape for convicted murders doesn't happen that frequently. It might seem like I'm contridicting my earlier posts but I am not. (I'll tell you why if someone asks.) And besides while on death row, you have more security for them in case of attempts of escape or suicide attempts.
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Anything, EVER, that a person does can be blamed on circumstances, environment, or even upbringing.
I do not deny this. However if the person had no mental issues/health issues that would effect his judgement or was not acting in self-defense. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS WRONG! And in most cases he/she won't care for the victims.
So when you know what is right and wrong yet you kill one than one person, you need to face the sentencing your actions have made you deserve.
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Also, say you walked in on someone who had just killed your family or friends and they attempt to flee. You have the means to kill that person. Would you or should you kill them?
Think about it. The guy just wiped out an entire room. He's fleeing and obviously desperate. What's to keep him from carjacking someone and killing them too? Sure you have no real obligation to kill them; you'd be risking your own life, but would you look down on someone who decides to kill them?
Simply put, in a situation where you know for certain that the person is guilty of murdering several people (in Hitler's case several million people), would you put them down?
It's easy to say that you should let the person live and simply imprison them when they've killed only one person or if there's a doubt about their innocence, but I find it hard to take a pacifistic stance when the situation is amped up like this.
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Gonna take this a step farther since this topic is just going to end up as a bunch of people agreeing with each other. Let's contemplate killing as punishment altogether. Let's say that instead of dying before they got to him, Adolf Hitler was arrested by the allied forces instead. Would you kill Hitler or anyone like him?
Also, say you walked in on someone who had just killed your family or friends and they attempt to flee. You have the means to kill that person. Would you or should you kill them?
Think about it. The guy just wiped out an entire room. He's fleeing and obviously desperate. What's to keep him from carjacking someone and killing them too? Sure you have no real obligation to kill them; you'd be risking your own life, but would you look down on someone who decides to kill them?
Simply put, in a situation where you know for certain that the person is guilty of murdering several people (in Hitler's case several million people), would you put them down?
It's easy to say that you should let the person live and simply imprison them when they've killed only one person or if there's a doubt about their innocence, but I find it hard to take a pacifistic stance when the situation is amped up like this.
Also, say you walked in on someone who had just killed your family or friends and they attempt to flee. You have the means to kill that person. Would you or should you kill them?
Think about it. The guy just wiped out an entire room. He's fleeing and obviously desperate. What's to keep him from carjacking someone and killing them too? Sure you have no real obligation to kill them; you'd be risking your own life, but would you look down on someone who decides to kill them?
Simply put, in a situation where you know for certain that the person is guilty of murdering several people (in Hitler's case several million people), would you put them down?
It's easy to say that you should let the person live and simply imprison them when they've killed only one person or if there's a doubt about their innocence, but I find it hard to take a pacifistic stance when the situation is amped up like this.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
There's a big difference between capital punishment and self-defense. No, I wouldn't support killing Hitler, actually, but the second example, yes. If he was right there, yes.
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You kill a killer. Does that make it okay? Because, since, technically, killing a killer makes you a killer too, regardless of kills the killer had, you see, you kill him, making you the killer.
Objection. Murderers are guilty, executioners are justice. There's a difference. Murderers take innocent lives, executioners send them onward to God's justice.
Objection.
You kill a killer. How does that not make you a murder yourself? You killed someone, regardless of who or what they were. Take the morals and conservatism about this, please. It's simple fact that if you kill someone, even a killer as part of a punishment, you kill a human. If your job is to execute killers, you're a professional hitman hired by the government. The way US law is right now should then label you as a killer, and your killer as a killer, and so on. It's really sort of a Communistic idea, if you think about it. They killed people for breaking their laws, and so do we. However, instead of making people "disappear" (as they called it) because of something they did or said that would be considered harmless here, you kill them for commitingcrimes like murder or rape; something deemed wrong by law, like speaking against the government was against the law in the Soviet Union.
So how do you get punished? You, killer of all killers? Having someone kill you? Again, where does the cycle end? According to the government, the executioner doesn't get punished. I find that, and death penalty wrong. The death penalty is the ultimate hypocrisy of law, and no amount of religious preaching or moral sharing (which I can tell you like to do, Robbie) can change that. Or do you have a counter argument?
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Pickens wrote:
Gonna take this a step farther since this topic is just going to end up as a bunch of people agreeing with each other. Let's contemplate killing as punishment altogether. Let's say that instead of dying before they got to him, Adolf Hitler was arrested by the allied forces instead. Would you kill Hitler or anyone like him?
Also, say you walked in on someone who had just killed your family or friends and they attempt to flee. You have the means to kill that person. Would you or should you kill them?
Think about it. The guy just wiped out an entire room. He's fleeing and obviously desperate. What's to keep him from carjacking someone and killing them too? Sure you have no real obligation to kill them; you'd be risking your own life, but would you look down on someone who decides to kill them?
Simply put, in a situation where you know for certain that the person is guilty of murdering several people (in Hitler's case several million people), would you put them down?
It's easy to say that you should let the person live and simply imprison them when they've killed only one person or if there's a doubt about their innocence, but I find it hard to take a pacifistic stance when the situation is amped up like this.
Also, say you walked in on someone who had just killed your family or friends and they attempt to flee. You have the means to kill that person. Would you or should you kill them?
Think about it. The guy just wiped out an entire room. He's fleeing and obviously desperate. What's to keep him from carjacking someone and killing them too? Sure you have no real obligation to kill them; you'd be risking your own life, but would you look down on someone who decides to kill them?
Simply put, in a situation where you know for certain that the person is guilty of murdering several people (in Hitler's case several million people), would you put them down?
It's easy to say that you should let the person live and simply imprison them when they've killed only one person or if there's a doubt about their innocence, but I find it hard to take a pacifistic stance when the situation is amped up like this.
-Hitler: Hmm, I would still want him givin the death penalty. I mean, thats a MASS murder.
-Mah fam killed: I don't think I could do it, but I know many people would be so enraged that they would. Doesn't make it right necessarily. I would try to restrain them or demobialize them in someway. For instance, if I had a gun, I would probably shoot them in the legs. I might go to jail for that, but at least the dude that killed my family is in prison.
-Random dude in a room: Hopefully someone wouldn't kill him >.> But like I prevousily said, demoblize them. If he did end up being killed, I would call his murder more self defence.
-Another dude killing a bunch of peole: Again, I would like him givin the death penalty.
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I don't really care.
Haha my favorite post in this topic.
Also, I'd like to bring up this "temporary insanity" crap.
I understand that if you are born or develop a mental illness when you are young, you mostly have it for the rest of your life.
Some of them really don't have control over their actions
But pleaing "temporary insanity" is stupid.
Of corse you were insane for that little bit, you killed someone >.>
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It's really like being so drunk you can't comprehend what you're doing.
I'm stating my side on it, I just thought I'd point that out.
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But maybe you shouldn't get that drunk if you tend to be that violent XD
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Eh, thats true too.
But maybe you shouldn't get that drunk if you tend to be that violent XD
But maybe you shouldn't get that drunk if you tend to be that violent XD
True. But it could be spur of the moment, or some people might not know how they act. Your statememt would be awesome if it were to happen, but there is an exception to every rule.
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Thats a little frightening.
But wouldn't something like that be considered manslaughter then =/
Hmm, not sure.
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If they are a serial murderer, then EXECUTION.
I don't really think death is a good punishment for rape or something, i think 5 years jail, and if repeat again, then execution.
I don't really think death is a good punishment for rape or something, i think 5 years jail, and if repeat again, then execution.
Are you a rapist?
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As for the death penalty, I am against. Sure, once in a while someone who's done something so horrid, so unimaginable and so unforgivable comes up and I go "man, they should be DEAD" but then there are cases of people who got the death sentence who were later found to be innocent. It's rare, yes, but it happens.
I think the best thing to do with people like that, people who would normally be given the death sentence, is to observe them and use them in whichever way deemed necessary. It would help more than simply offing them.
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China's Death Buses Deliver Executions
China currently has plasn for 40 of the execution buses. The buses provide a setup for lethal injections, and the acts are carried out on streaming video so local authorities can observe and ensure that everything is done legally.
Personally, I think the US should start getting a few of these for all of the major cities like NY. And if it works well, start to spread them to suburbans and rural towns.
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Oh, and to keep somebody in prison for life costs a lot. It is a big burden on the state. I'm okay with life imprisonment if it fits the crime, but there are times where CP is more appropriate.
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I think CP is a necessary evil.
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Someone who has committed heinous crimes (murders, torturings, etc.) has stripped others of their most basic personal liberties.
What? Didn't you get the memo? They cancelled that. They aren't your liberties anymore.
You're free to die though.
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George wrote:
I think CP is a necessary evil. Someone who has committed heinous crimes (murders, torturings, etc.) has stripped others of their most basic personal liberties. Now, obviously, there are gray areas. Self defense, insanity, things like that. But in general, I'm for CP in the case of such outrageous crimes.
Oh, and to keep somebody in prison for life costs a lot. It is a big burden on the state. I'm okay with life imprisonment if it fits the crime, but there are times where CP is more appropriate.
Oh, and to keep somebody in prison for life costs a lot. It is a big burden on the state. I'm okay with life imprisonment if it fits the crime, but there are times where CP is more appropriate.
Executions cost a lot too. Don't downplay that.
Just because he stripped other people of their lives doesn't mean that he isn't human. Meaning, he still has and should have those liberties. Well, as much as possible in prision. That's my belief anyway.
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If something works, then why stop it?
Yes, I'm sure some people will go like, your wrong, you're wrong, but it's my opinion. I know, people are people, and people who murder people are people too- and they shouldn't be treated as so. But normal people don't kill people. If you cannot function in society without having the restraint to kill someone, then you should not be in society.
People who lost loved ones from murder might've never gotten to say goodbye- imagine having your loved one taken away from you- wouldn't you feel so much anger and sadness wash over you, doing everything to get the person who took your loved one away imprisoned. But what happens after they get imprisoned? After they're let go, so what? You don't get your loved one back. Sure, they spent years in jail- but does it really bring anyone back? What if they do it again? More lost loved ones.
This is my opinion, I'm not some cold-hearted person who doesn't believe in second chances. Only when they've really, really, really for sure changed, then it would be okay.
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lemony wrote:
Capital punishment works. That is my argument- in my opinion, how can you tell if someone has really changed? If they kill a bunch of people, then have a long, long stay in jail with parole, then, how, how do you know if they are not going to repeat the act that got them in there? Sure, prison is bad, but even if you have a grudge on someone, you might not just forget about it after 50 years or so.
If something works, then why stop it?
Yes, I'm sure some people will go like, your wrong, you're wrong, but it's my opinion. I know, people are people, and people who murder people are people too- and they shouldn't be treated as so. But normal people don't kill people. If you cannot function in society without having the restraint to kill someone, then you should not be in society.
People who lost loved ones from murder might've never gotten to say goodbye- imagine having your loved one taken away from you- wouldn't you feel so much anger and sadness wash over you, doing everything to get the person who took your loved one away imprisoned. But what happens after they get imprisoned? After they're let go, so what? You don't get your loved one back. Sure, they spent years in jail- but does it really bring anyone back? What if they do it again? More lost loved ones.
This is my opinion, I'm not some cold-hearted person who doesn't believe in second chances. Only when they've really, really, really for sure changed, then it would be okay.
If something works, then why stop it?
Yes, I'm sure some people will go like, your wrong, you're wrong, but it's my opinion. I know, people are people, and people who murder people are people too- and they shouldn't be treated as so. But normal people don't kill people. If you cannot function in society without having the restraint to kill someone, then you should not be in society.
People who lost loved ones from murder might've never gotten to say goodbye- imagine having your loved one taken away from you- wouldn't you feel so much anger and sadness wash over you, doing everything to get the person who took your loved one away imprisoned. But what happens after they get imprisoned? After they're let go, so what? You don't get your loved one back. Sure, they spent years in jail- but does it really bring anyone back? What if they do it again? More lost loved ones.
This is my opinion, I'm not some cold-hearted person who doesn't believe in second chances. Only when they've really, really, really for sure changed, then it would be okay.
1: You say you're not sure if they've really changed.
Well I say there's just about as much chance for anyone else to be a murderer for the first time. I mean, you can't tell that, either, right?
2: Also, killing them won't bring back your loved ones either, smartass. Your argument is moot.
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lemony wrote:
People who lost loved ones from murder might've never gotten to say goodbye- imagine having your loved one taken away from you- wouldn't you feel so much anger and sadness wash over you, doing everything to get the person who took your loved one away imprisoned. But what happens after they get imprisoned? After they're let go, so what? You don't get your loved one back. Sure, they spent years in jail- but does it really bring anyone back? What if they do it again? More lost loved ones.
You people are stupidly obsessed with this line of thinking.
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Execution is forcibly taking the life of another, so technically it's murder.
Because of that, people who are executed for murder go to heaven.
That being said, I think it's fair, because execution will save the murderer's souls, however the victims' families might want the murderer to burn in hell, so I think they should be able to choose whether the murderer is sentanced to death or not.
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Any other crimes and one time murderers should just get life imprisonment. And I mean LIFE.
When I first played AA I got a shock when they mentioned the death sentence LOL I wasn't expecting it.
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Phoenix_Apollo wrote:
Guys, please leave religious or high moral reasons such as killing loved ones out of this, please.
Why?
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lemony wrote:
Capital punishment works. That is my argument- in my opinion, how can you tell if someone has really changed? If they kill a bunch of people, then have a long, long stay in jail with parole, then, how, how do you know if they are not going to repeat the act that got them in there? Sure, prison is bad, but even if you have a grudge on someone, you might not just forget about it after 50 years or so.
If something works, then why stop it?
If something works, then why stop it?
Because it doesn't.
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