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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/manga-porn/

15 years is a bit much...I don't read/watch/support the type of stuff he did...but there are worst offenders out there, like the ones really doing all that.
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let's just tell them that we met in jail

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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/manga-porn/

15 years is a bit much...I don't read/watch/support the type of stuff he did...but there are worst offenders out there, like the ones really doing all that.



what the- seriously, jailing someone over MANGA? and it's not exactly gonna stop everyone ELSE from doing it! :edgeworth:
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Guess what.

This isn't going to stop anyone.
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Shadilver wrote:
Guess what.

This isn't going to stop anyone.

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Masque*Demasquer wrote:
Deltron wrote:
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/manga-porn/

15 years is a bit much...I don't read/watch/support the type of stuff he did...but there are worst offenders out there, like the ones really doing all that.



what the- seriously, jailing someone over MANGA? and it's not exactly gonna stop everyone ELSE from doing it! :edgeworth:

It's not that it's manga. It's that it basically had CP. It wouldn't have made a difference if it was filled with American comics like that.
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Seriously, why not punish the perverted Japanese people that make the mess in the first place? Seriously, who has the gall to want to draw something disgusting like that?
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Erm, okay. The topic title made me a bit nervous, good thing I don't have any H-manga...

The funny thing is, there's no law against it. It's not child pornography, it's... art? And in Japan that sort of 'art' is legal. Also, there are weirder things in this world than manga like that. ACTUAL beastiality movies exist...
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Seriously, why not punish the perverted Japanese people that make the mess in the first place? Seriously, who has the gall to want to draw something disgusting like that?

You can't blame the creators, people have a right to draw whatever they want. No matter how crude it is. And if people out there happen to want to read it so much that they'll pay money for it or download it, then so be it. Besides, what people do in Japan is none of our business. Limiting what people can and can't create, read, watch, listen to, etc... it's not a solution to anything really... not saying that people can go around making snuff films and real child porn, but drawing something really shouldn't be taken as seriously at all.

This whole situation is a bit ridiculous. Like others have said, it's not going to stop anybody anyway.
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It's not going to stop anybody, but if a new law about banning hentai containing children would be passed, well, getting caught is on everyone's list.
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I don't really care about the situation, just I have to wonder how the majority of people's minds work.

If you're going to blame the collector, you should blame the artist just as much as the collector - Heck, even more.

There's just no point. Would they rather it happen in real life? Again, I have to wonder how the majority of people's minds work.
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Is this the same story about the guy who imported lolicon but also happened to have a lot of child porn on his computer

Because if that's the case you guys are missing the point

edit: apparently not. I'm still pretty sure you've never been allowed to import this kind of stuff in the first place. It's less about owning it and more about the fact that he imported it
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This is truly pathetic. A new low.
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What I'm curious to know about is if it is indeed kid prono...because (not to sound like a stereotypical asshole) anime females are tended to be drawn youthfully with great bodies...so if that's just the case, he shouldn't get locked up...


I don't really see it any different from adult websites with "teen" content...the actresses are 18+, but they're depicted to be younger.

if it's the case that the characters depicted were just young looking...
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While I certainly don't approve of the content of those mangas, I don't see anything wrong with his possession of them. No clear link between sex crimes and pornography has been found.
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As said previously, I don't particularly care for this type of manga, but surely they should be arresting the people who made the manga, not the people who buy it?
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These sort of mangas are legal in Japan, which I assume where the creators are.
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That sentence is way OTT.

If (like HH said) he had child porn too then it would be entirely different.

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He had no photographs of child pornography.


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He did not focus on this type of manga. He collected everything that was out there that he could get his hands on.



They should be spending their time catching real paedophiles.
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That is harsh. In Britain a man only got 12 years for torturing and killing a baby. The country where that man got prosecuted is strict. Should be like that in Britain
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This is absurd. I mean, he didn't have any actual photos of real children or anything like that. >_< If that's what he wants to read, let him freaking read it! Ugh.

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They should be spending their time catching real paedophiles.


Exactly.

Deltron wrote:
What I'm curious to know about is if it is indeed kid prono...because (not to sound like a stereotypical asshole) anime females are tended to be drawn youthfully with great bodies...so if that's just the case, he shouldn't get locked up...


I'm sure it probably is. I saw tons of lolicon manga and such when I was in Japan.
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A serious case indeed.

The United States is waging war on Lolicon!

But the Lolis will strike back, I tell you.

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edit: apparently not. I'm still pretty sure you've never been allowed to import this kind of stuff in the first place. It's less about owning it and more about the fact that he imported it



You can find them on Ebay. I still remember when i came across the :maya: / :pearl: one on there :zenitora: (i will say people who have this one need to be shot dead, or given some quality time with :gant: )


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Still won't make a difference to anyone, really.

I guess this is more important than going after like...terrorists or something.

These are the same people who go after other people cause they use Limewire.
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I don't get why they think Lolicon is so unlawful all of a sudden. :/ It doesn't hurt anyone.
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Yes. If little kids feel like getting naked in front of adults, then it's ok.
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Yes. If little kids feel like getting naked in front of adults, then it's ok.

Eh? Lolicon is drawings, not photographs.
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Collecting manga this shitty is probably a crime where I live too.
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which outlaws cartoons, drawings, sculptures or paintings depicting minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and which lack “serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.”


So basically 90% of all manga.
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WTF is all i can say.
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All I can say is that that law is pretty pathetic and isn't going to help things at all.
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I just checked the internet..

ALL THE LOLI IS BEING DELETED!~

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This is pathetic, ridiculous, absurd, and criminally stupid.
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“serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.”

This includes FullMetal Alchemist, Fruits Basket, InuYasha, and pretty much ALL the mangas I read.
Why aren't they spending time and money hunting down the true pedophiles? I refuse to pay taxes in order to jail somebody for reading manga. That is a wrongful use of OUR tax money. Grrr.
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WHAAAAAAAT?!?!?! :meekins: :zenny:

This is a stupid law from what im hearing...
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The 39-year-old office worker was charged under the 2003 Protect Act, which outlaws cartoons, drawings, sculptures or paintings depicting minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and which lack “serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.”


There's plenty of this kind of loli on Aeris Dies. Under this description, the site should be shut down and the server providers, as well as the site owners, tried for sex crimes.
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It's not going to happen. You can't stop the internet, sorry.

How does law be retarded?
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People just don't understand what these are.

So maybe they're drawn depictions of children in sexual situations, (or other socially unaccepted sexual acts, i.e. they mentioned bestiality too) but are people forgetting that it's not a person's choice to be sexually attracted to stuff that's inacceptible? Pedophillia, for example, is considered a negative psychological condition, a 'disease' so to speak.

What these comics/manga really do is provide an outlet for these people's feelings that don't hurt anyone; rather than have these feelings be ignored, and built up over time. If their sexual needs are stored away in a corner of their being, it will eventually all burst and they will be more likely to commit an actual sexual offense.

Though I'll admit it's entirely besides the point; this man was merely an unsuspecting collector of manga. For all we know he didn't even know what was being sent to him. (Unlikely, true.) He was only gathering a collection. People collect things, and all.

tl;dr version: I think the law is still incompetent. It doesn't allow for human understanding or exception.
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Greeny summed my thoughts about this up pretty well. :godot:
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