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Of course, there's nothing wrong with being proud of your country, but I can't think of ANYTHING that America has done to make me proud of this place.


Not even McDonald's?

What about when they ended World War II by bombing Japan? While I do like Japan now and millions of innocent people were killed there, I must admit they were total jerks during that time. =P
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Yes, so many innocent lives were taken.



But the Terrorists died too. I am sure as American War Strategy goes, the death of 3000 of its own for the death of several of the enemy is a fairly acceptable return?
Seems to be. They kill enough of their own comrades in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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personally, i mostly believe the conspiracy theory of 9/11.

it's the only thing that really makes it worth anything, as stated before, disasters like these are a dime a dozen.

it's only special because there's the distinct possibility the government used it as an excuse to invade iraq, afghanistan, etc., it's very possible they ordered it.


You're wrong.

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What about when they ended World War II by bombing Japan? While I do like Japan now and millions of innocent people were killed there, I must admit they were total jerks during that time.


You're a prick. You don't just wipe out two cities, asshat. That = more jerky than Japan x 1,000,000,000.
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Yes, so many innocent lives were taken.



But the Terrorists died too. I am sure as American War Strategy goes, the death of 3000 of its own for the death of several of the enemy is a fairly acceptable return?
Seems to be. They kill enough of their own comrades in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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personally, i mostly believe the conspiracy theory of 9/11.

it's the only thing that really makes it worth anything, as stated before, disasters like these are a dime a dozen.

it's only special because there's the distinct possibility the government used it as an excuse to invade iraq, afghanistan, etc., it's very possible they ordered it.


You're wrong.

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What about when they ended World War II by bombing Japan? While I do like Japan now and millions of innocent people were killed there, I must admit they were total jerks during that time.


You're a prick. You don't just wipe out two cities, asshat. That = more jerky than Japan x 1,000,000,000.


At least they prevented Japan from doing more killing.

And it gave us Godzilla...

But all joking aside, I and my family have a bit of a grudge against WWII Japan because they invaded Taiwan and did screwed over some of my ancestors... :yuusaku:
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Of course, there's nothing wrong with being proud of your country, but I can't think of ANYTHING that America has done to make me proud of this place.


Not even McDonald's?

What about when they ended World War II by bombing Japan? While I do like Japan now and millions of innocent people were killed there, I must admit they were total jerks during that time. =P


Yes. We had so much better justice with those Japanese American internment camps. Isn't patriotism grand?
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Yaragorm wrote:
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Of course, there's nothing wrong with being proud of your country, but I can't think of ANYTHING that America has done to make me proud of this place.


Not even McDonald's?

What about when they ended World War II by bombing Japan? While I do like Japan now and millions of innocent people were killed there, I must admit they were total jerks during that time. =P


I hate McDonalds D:

Yeah, they might've been "jerks" at the time, but if you really think hard about it, what good comes from nuking 2 cities, killing hundreds of innocent people?? Even if they weren't killed from the initial blast, many died from starvation and cancer from the bomb's radiation. Have you ever read the book, Hiroshima?? It's pretty eye-opening. No one, not even crazy psycho countries deserve to be bombed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAzieed4C_8
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personally, i mostly believe the conspiracy theory of 9/11.

it's the only thing that really makes it worth anything, as stated before, disasters like these are a dime a dozen.

it's only special because there's the distinct possibility the government used it as an excuse to invade iraq, afghanistan, etc., it's very possible they ordered it.


You're wrong.


care to discuss?
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silentxfilmstar wrote:
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Of course, there's nothing wrong with being proud of your country, but I can't think of ANYTHING that America has done to make me proud of this place.


Not even McDonald's?

What about when they ended World War II by bombing Japan? While I do like Japan now and millions of innocent people were killed there, I must admit they were total jerks during that time. =P


I hate McDonalds D:

Yeah, they might've been "jerks" at the time, but if you really think hard about it, what good comes from nuking 2 cities, killing hundreds of innocent people?? Even if they weren't killed from the initial blast, many died from starvation and cancer from the bomb's radiation. Have you ever read the book, Hiroshima?? It's pretty eye-opening. No one, not even crazy psycho countries deserve to be bombed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAzieed4C_8


....

It still doesn't change my opinion on them...although it is pretty sad...
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But all joking aside, I and my family have a bit of a grudge against WWII Japan because they invaded Taiwan and did screwed over some of my ancestors... :yuusaku:


So your family getting done screwed over by some Japanese folk justifies the instant death of 220,000 civilians? My goodness if America had been on the losing side they would still be suffering for that deed.
Just because they won, they get off scot-free for one of the most heinous war crimes ever.
9/11? PAH. Almost irrelevant compared to the terrorism the US inflicted on those cities. Hypocrisy like I've never known.

Next you'll be justifying the Holocaust because some Jews didn't lend your great uncle any money when he wanted to buy a yo-yo.


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You're wrong.


care to discuss?



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But all joking aside, I and my family have a bit of a grudge against WWII Japan because they invaded Taiwan and did screwed over some of my ancestors... :yuusaku:


So your family getting done screwed over by some Japanese folk justifies the instant death of 220,000 civilians? My goodness if America had been on the losing side they would still be suffering for that deed.
Just because they won, they get off scot-free for one of the most heinous war crimes ever.
9/11? PAH. Almost irrelevant compared to the terrorism the US inflicted on those cities. Hypocrisy like I've never known.


shutupshutupshutup! IHATEYOU! :toupee:

And it wasn't terrorism the US did, was it? :yuusaku:

In any case, Japan has forgiven America so....
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And it wasn't terrorism the US did, was it? :yuusaku:


Yes it was. They thought, 'fuck sticking to rules, we'll just scare the living shit out of them by wiping out two cities' in order to make them surrender.

"Terrorism = the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion."

Sounds like terrorism to me.
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Yaragorm wrote:

....

It still doesn't change my opinion on them...although it is pretty sad...



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At least they prevented Japan from doing more killing.

And it gave us Godzilla...

But all joking aside, I and my family have a bit of a grudge against WWII Japan because they invaded Taiwan and did screwed over some of my ancestors... :yuusaku:


Don't you think they could've done something a little bit more rational?? I just can't believe that you think that dropping a NUCLEAR bomb on two cities, completely wiping them out, is justified. There is nothing justified about killing innocent people.
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And it wasn't terrorism the US did, was it? :yuusaku:


Yes it was. They thought, 'fuck sticking to rules, we'll just scare the living shit out of them by wiping out two cities'. Sounds like terrorism to me.

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Killing hundreds of thousands innocent people is ok as long as it's "not terrorism"? Hell, that's good to know.
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You're wrong.


care to discuss?



No. You're wrong.

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It still doesn't change my opinion on them...although it is pretty sad...



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At least they prevented Japan from doing more killing.

And it gave us Godzilla...

But all joking aside, I and my family have a bit of a grudge against WWII Japan because they invaded Taiwan and did screwed over some of my ancestors... :yuusaku:


Don't you think they could've done something a little bit more rational?? I just can't believe that you think that dropping a NUCLEAR bomb on two cities, completely wiping them out, is justified. There is nothing justified about killing innocent people.


Tell that to Japan 60 years ago. :edgeworth:
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Yaragorm wrote:
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Yaragorm wrote:

....

It still doesn't change my opinion on them...although it is pretty sad...



Quote:
At least they prevented Japan from doing more killing.

And it gave us Godzilla...

But all joking aside, I and my family have a bit of a grudge against WWII Japan because they invaded Taiwan and did screwed over some of my ancestors... :yuusaku:


Don't you think they could've done something a little bit more rational?? I just can't believe that you think that dropping a NUCLEAR bomb on two cities, completely wiping them out, is justified. There is nothing justified about killing innocent people.


Tell that to Japan 60 years ago. :edgeworth:


So other people killing innocents is a good excuse for... killing innocents? I smell hipocrisy.
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No. You're wrong.

No. You're wrong.

No. You're wrong.
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Yes. You're right.
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No. You're wrong.

No. You're wrong.

No. You're wrong.

shut up already. i'd like to see evidence, or at least some meaningful explanation before you tell me i'm wrong. if you don't want to discuss this, don't arbitrarily tell me i'm wrong.
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L_J wrote:
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No. You're wrong.

shut up already. i'd like to see evidence, or at least some meaningful explanation before you tell me i'm wrong. if you don't want to discuss this, don't arbitrarily tell me i'm wrong.


You're the one with the crack minority idea. You need to show some evidence, not me.
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No. You're wrong.

No. You're wrong.

No. You're wrong.


Anyone else see a flame war in the making?
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(I feel this topic needs a lock...the same one that kristoph had so we may not open it)
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Yaragorm wrote:
silentxfilmstar wrote:
Yaragorm wrote:

....

It still doesn't change my opinion on them...although it is pretty sad...



Quote:
At least they prevented Japan from doing more killing.

And it gave us Godzilla...

But all joking aside, I and my family have a bit of a grudge against WWII Japan because they invaded Taiwan and did screwed over some of my ancestors... :yuusaku:


Don't you think they could've done something a little bit more rational?? I just can't believe that you think that dropping a NUCLEAR bomb on two cities, completely wiping them out, is justified. There is nothing justified about killing innocent people.


Tell that to Japan 60 years ago. :edgeworth:


Ok, yes, Japan had no business for what they did 60 years ago. It was wrong as well. Nobody should've gone through anything like that. But the thing I'm trying to say is that there's nothing good coming from dropping nuclear weapons on a country. Even though I don't agree with anything North Korea stands for and think their leader is a crazy nutjob, I would never suggest dropping a nuclear bomb on them or any sort of bomb, just because "they deserve it." Same with Afghanistan, just because a small group of terrorists decided to hijack planes and crash them into the Twin Towers, would bombing the country do any good?? No. There are still thousands of humans there that do not deserve to die like that.
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That's a helpful contribution. We're just having a reasoned discussion, which I will win because conspiracy theories =/= the truth.

Ok?

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9/11 is a serious issue. Who honestly cares about that Ace Attorney nonsense?
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Argh! Everytime I voice my opinion, I end up looking like an idiot... =P

So I apologize for saying that it was a good thing for America to have bombed Japan all those years ago...even though i still think it was...

And hypocrisy is unavoidable when talking about things like this.

Killing people for killing people happens all the time. Hypocrtical or not.

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No. You're wrong.

No. You're wrong.


What are you arguing about anyway? 0_0

And yes, lock this topic so people shall forget my stupid opinion. :payne:
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Argh! Everytime I voice my opinion, I end up looking like an idiot... =P



There's a reason for that

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Just because you think you're an idiot does not mean this topic should be locked.

I'm actually enjoying this debate, as long as you both bring up points instead of "BAAAWWW-ing" each other, it's all cool.
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9/11 is a serious issue. Who honestly cares about that Ace Attorney nonsense?


well from what i see there isnt much goin on other then flaming and crap so yea...maybe that annoying baby pick will annoy you to shut up and get to the topic >:O
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Cold52 wrote:
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9/11 is a serious issue. Who honestly cares about that Ace Attorney nonsense?


well from what i see there isnt much goin on other then flaming and crap so yea...maybe that annoying baby pick will annoy you to shut up and get to the topic >:O


Sorry. Can't understand you with all that Spanish.
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Argh! Everytime I voice my opinion, I end up looking like an idiot... =P



There's a reason for that

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...I don't get it... :larry:

Proxy wrote:
9/11 is a serious issue. Who honestly cares about that Ace Attorney nonsense?


Probably not the best thing to say here... :udgy:
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Probably not the best thing to say here... :udgy:


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Sorry. Can't understand you with all that Spanish.

then pick up a book about spanish and read it or ignore it...im normally not a rude guy...but dont give me crap about what i say :P
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Probably not the best thing to say here... :udgy:


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Yaragorm wrote:
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Argh! Everytime I voice my opinion, I end up looking like an idiot... =P



There's a reason for that

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...I don't get it... :larry:

Proxy wrote:
9/11 is a serious issue. Who honestly cares about that Ace Attorney nonsense?


Probably not the best thing to say here... :udgy:


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personally, i mostly believe the conspiracy theory of 9/11.

it's the only thing that really makes it worth anything, as stated before, disasters like these are a dime a dozen.

it's only special because there's the distinct possibility the government used it as an excuse to invade iraq, afghanistan, etc., it's very possible they ordered it.

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Sorry. Can't understand you with all that Spanish.

then pick up a book about spanish and read it or ignore it...im normally not a rude guy...but dont give me crap about what i say :P


Hola, pedro. Do you speaky Eng-i-lish?
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yes...but do you...because obviously someone intelligent could read a simple sentence
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