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| Author: | Wocky Kitaki [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Women gives son up for adoption, fucks him 10 years later |
Some women need to go to hell http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index ... accus.html this is one of them |
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| Author: | L_J [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:51 am ] |
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Wocky Kitaki wrote: Some women need to go to hell http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index ... accus.html this is one of them assuming she's guilty. reminds me of "Alive" by Pearl Jam. |
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| Author: | DoMaya [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:15 am ] |
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OH MOM! |
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| Author: | Louise [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:24 am ] |
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oh god |
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| Author: | Floran [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:45 am ] |
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... what the hell...
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| Author: | Dylia [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:06 am ] |
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What the hell!?
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| Author: | Duclis [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 10:13 am ] |
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Well, THAT sure caught my attention. Nasty... |
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| Author: | Cobblepotter [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:13 am ] |
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Looking at the "Commenters defend woman accused" link, one comment stood out and suggested that the news article itself may not be showing the entire story. Quote: Another comment since removed from the Oakland Press site read:
Now that the Oakland Press has found it neccesary to write a one sided story, I'll fill in the missing details. Yes a son was given up for adoption, yes He found her on the internet, or actually they found each other. They met with the permission of the adopted parents, and were able to spend time together to allow him to meet his siblings. This boy was 15 at the time and had emotional problems, had been in trouble with the law and threatened his adoptive parents, also diagnosed as being bipolar. This should have been a sign to proceed with caution. The Oakland press reports as if she tracked him down for sex, which is ludicrous. This was meetings and visits that spanned over a summer to reconnect a family. When things didn't go his way threats were made. Well now those threats have come to light. There are other children to be considered here, that love their mother very much. Before people judge her, lets get the facts. Our court system is innocent until proven guilty!!!!! When the truth comes out I hope the Oakland press will report the truth with accuracy. We all feel for the boy, but putting an innocent woman through this is unjust. He needs serious help. |
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| Author: | eulogy7x [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:24 pm ] |
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Oh my O.O |
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| Author: | DerekAMW [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:32 pm ] |
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Bitch how well do you think jail is going to be with all of those hardened women prisoners. |
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| Author: | Ninja Steve [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:44 pm ] |
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This is just terrible... I mean, seriously, wtf? |
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| Author: | Freakyalex [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:44 pm ] |
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Holy hell on a crumpet that's bad! Who would do that? |
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| Author: | nekonohime [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:08 pm ] |
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That's just screwed up beyond belief... |
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| Author: | Nii [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:21 pm ] |
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Coppo wrote: Looking at the "Commenters defend woman accused" link, one comment stood out and suggested that the news article itself may not be showing the entire story. Quote: Another comment since removed from the Oakland Press site read: Now that the Oakland Press has found it neccesary to write a one sided story, I'll fill in the missing details. Yes a son was given up for adoption, yes He found her on the internet, or actually they found each other. They met with the permission of the adopted parents, and were able to spend time together to allow him to meet his siblings. This boy was 15 at the time and had emotional problems, had been in trouble with the law and threatened his adoptive parents, also diagnosed as being bipolar. This should have been a sign to proceed with caution. The Oakland press reports as if she tracked him down for sex, which is ludicrous. This was meetings and visits that spanned over a summer to reconnect a family. When things didn't go his way threats were made. Well now those threats have come to light. There are other children to be considered here, that love their mother very much. Before people judge her, lets get the facts. Our court system is innocent until proven guilty!!!!! When the truth comes out I hope the Oakland press will report the truth with accuracy. We all feel for the boy, but putting an innocent woman through this is unjust. He needs serious help. Thank you. |
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| Author: | NaruhodouMinuki [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:44 pm ] |
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Coppo wrote: Looking at the "Commenters defend woman accused" link, one comment stood out and suggested that the news article itself may not be showing the entire story. Quote: Another comment since removed from the Oakland Press site read: Now that the Oakland Press has found it neccesary to write a one sided story, I'll fill in the missing details. Yes a son was given up for adoption, yes He found her on the internet, or actually they found each other. They met with the permission of the adopted parents, and were able to spend time together to allow him to meet his siblings. This boy was 15 at the time and had emotional problems, had been in trouble with the law and threatened his adoptive parents, also diagnosed as being bipolar. This should have been a sign to proceed with caution. The Oakland press reports as if she tracked him down for sex, which is ludicrous. This was meetings and visits that spanned over a summer to reconnect a family. When things didn't go his way threats were made. Well now those threats have come to light. There are other children to be considered here, that love their mother very much. Before people judge her, lets get the facts. Our court system is innocent until proven guilty!!!!! When the truth comes out I hope the Oakland press will report the truth with accuracy. We all feel for the boy, but putting an innocent woman through this is unjust. He needs serious help. Thank you. You know what I'm sick of? People believing that the worst shit happens and believes the news. There is always another story. My cousin was on the news for raping a girl. He was 18, she was 16. They were engaged, and in love, and it was the mother that lied her ass off and said some shit like rape. Yet, what I read on the site was that he forced her to have sex. D: This is why I hate the news, and I don't believe a word of it. They never tell you the full story. I mean, damn the news people could have gone to our school and found out they were always talking about how they had sex. So, one day her mom walks in on them and suddenly it's a rape story. No. Don't believe a word of that shit. That mother didn't intend to fuck him at first, im sure, and I guarantee it wasn't rape. |
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| Author: | L_J [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Women gives son up for adoption, fucks him 10 years later |
NaruhodouMinuki wrote: You know what I'm sick of? People believing that the worst shit happens and believes the news. There is always another story. My cousin was on the news for raping a girl. He was 18, she was 16. They were engaged, and in love, and it was the mother that lied her ass off and said some shit like rape. Yet, what I read on the site was that he forced her to have sex. D: This is why I hate the news, and I don't believe a word of it. They never tell you the full story. I mean, damn the news people could have gone to our school and found out they were always talking about how they had sex. So, one day her mom walks in on them and suddenly it's a rape story. No. Don't believe a word of that shit. That mother didn't intend to fuck him at first, im sure, and I guarantee it wasn't rape. this. i extremely dislike people assuming the news is right. they get money for interesting stories, not "she could be, and probably is, innocent". |
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| Author: | DerekAMW [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Women gives son up for adoption, fucks him 10 years later |
NaruhodouMinuki wrote: Coppo wrote: Looking at the "Commenters defend woman accused" link, one comment stood out and suggested that the news article itself may not be showing the entire story. Quote: Another comment since removed from the Oakland Press site read: Now that the Oakland Press has found it neccesary to write a one sided story, I'll fill in the missing details. Yes a son was given up for adoption, yes He found her on the internet, or actually they found each other. They met with the permission of the adopted parents, and were able to spend time together to allow him to meet his siblings. This boy was 15 at the time and had emotional problems, had been in trouble with the law and threatened his adoptive parents, also diagnosed as being bipolar. This should have been a sign to proceed with caution. The Oakland press reports as if she tracked him down for sex, which is ludicrous. This was meetings and visits that spanned over a summer to reconnect a family. When things didn't go his way threats were made. Well now those threats have come to light. There are other children to be considered here, that love their mother very much. Before people judge her, lets get the facts. Our court system is innocent until proven guilty!!!!! When the truth comes out I hope the Oakland press will report the truth with accuracy. We all feel for the boy, but putting an innocent woman through this is unjust. He needs serious help. Thank you. You know what I'm sick of? People believing that the worst shit happens and believes the news. There is always another story. My cousin was on the news for raping a girl. He was 18, she was 16. They were engaged, and in love, and it was the mother that lied her ass off and said some shit like rape. Yet, what I read on the site was that he forced her to have sex. D: This is why I hate the news, and I don't believe a word of it. They never tell you the full story. I mean, damn the news people could have gone to our school and found out they were always talking about how they had sex. So, one day her mom walks in on them and suddenly it's a rape story. No. Don't believe a word of that shit. That mother didn't intend to fuck him at first, im sure, and I guarantee it wasn't rape. Who lied and said a sexual assault happened then? I'm talking about the current mother-son incest sexual assualt claim story. |
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| Author: | L_J [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:08 pm ] |
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Platinum Skye wrote: Who lied and said a sexual assault happened then? I'm talking about the current mother-son incest sexual assualt claim story. looks like the news report didn't say, because it might put the mother in a better light, or at least create reasonable doubt. |
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| Author: | DerekAMW [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Women gives son up for adoption, fucks him 10 years later |
L_J wrote: Platinum Skye wrote: Who lied and said a sexual assault happened then? I'm talking about the current mother-son incest sexual assualt claim story. looks like the news report didn't say, because it might put the mother in a better light, or at least create reasonable doubt. When we are talking about child sexual abuse we generally don't try to put the accused in a decent light. Perhaps Law Enforcement is withholding that information until the trial now that I think about it. |
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| Author: | L_J [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:20 pm ] |
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Platinum Skye wrote: L_J wrote: Platinum Skye wrote: Who lied and said a sexual assault happened then? I'm talking about the current mother-son incest sexual assualt claim story. looks like the news report didn't say, because it might put the mother in a better light, or at least create reasonable doubt. When we are talking about child sexual abuse we generally don't try to put the accused in a decent light. Perhaps Law Enforcement is withholding that information until the trial now that I think about it. good point. it's probably a better idea to withhold the information until the trial, but i'd like to have a decent amount of facts at the very least. and besides, even if there are facts that put the accused in a better light, the media will almost certainly not report them, that's how they get money. also, the report is written as if she is already guilty, a majority of the people who read the report won't care about what happens in the trial. even if she is innocent, and proven so, people will have the impression that she is the only who raped her son. |
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| Author: | DerekAMW [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:28 pm ] |
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L_J wrote: good point. it's probably a better idea to withhold the information until the trial, but i'd like to have a decent amount of facts at the very least. and besides, even if there are facts that put the accused in a better light, the media will almost certainly not report them, that's how they get money. also, the report is written as if she is already guilty, a majority of the people who read the report won't care about what happens in the trial. even if she is innocent, and proven so, people will have the impression that she is the only who raped her son. The only way the facts matter for the accused in a sexual abuse of child story is if it proves the accused is not connected to the crime. Yes the media will try to spin the details to get more money but that happens more with National Media rather than Local Media Stations. Of course I don't know if this story has hit CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc. Most child molestation suspects are found guilty unless the victims refuse to press any further due to emotional issues. Parents have to be concerned about child molestation suspects to protect their children. This isn't even a stranger rape case, it's an act by a family member *kinda debateable but I see it that way* which is how most child molestation acts are done. If the woman is found innocent then she has that right to be considered innocent but must convince the community she is innocent because parents need to question some accused sex offenders that are found not guilty. It's not necessarily right but I understand their reasoning. |
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| Author: | L_J [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:39 pm ] |
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Platinum Skye wrote: The only way the facts matter for the accused in a sexual abuse of child story is if it proves the accused is not connected to the crime. well, i disagree, but i guess that's just varies from person to person. Platinum Skye wrote: If the woman is found innocent then she has that right to be considered innocent but must convince the community she is innocent because parents need to question some accused sex offenders that are found not guilty. that's unlikely. some people don't let go of impressions like this, in the back of their mind, no matter what you say or prove, it will remain. depending on the people who you communicate with, it can be devastating. |
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| Author: | Yaragorm [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:42 pm ] |
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Ugh. That's disgusting. I wonder why she bothered to do that anyway?
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| Author: | DerekAMW [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:52 pm ] |
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L_J wrote: Platinum Skye wrote: The only way the facts matter for the accused in a sexual abuse of child story is if it proves the accused is not connected to the crime. well, i disagree, but i guess that's just varies from person to person. -------------------------------------------------------------- Example: A respectable toy salesman that contributes for many charities for terminally ill children is arrested after a child shows signs of being sexually abused and points out the toy salesman from a line up. So you would think that just because the toy salesman contributes to charities for terminally ill children that's a reason for him not to be accused 83% of the time. Platinum Skye wrote: If the woman is found innocent then she has that right to be considered innocent but must convince the community she is innocent because parents need to question some accused sex offenders that are found not guilty. that's unlikely. some people don't let go of impressions like this, in the back of their mind, no matter what you say or prove, it will remain. depending on the people who you communicate with, it can be devastating. Well try your hardest not to get yourselves into criminal situations or to make enemies that would want to frame you. |
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| Author: | L_J [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:59 pm ] |
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Platinum Skye wrote: Example: A respectable toy salesman that contributes for many charities for terminally ill children is arrested after a child shows signs of being sexually abused and points out the toy salesman from a line up. So you would think that just because the toy salesman contributes to charities for terminally ill children that's a reason for him not to be accused 83% of the time. i don't care if the toy salesman contributes to charity. as it may show the accused in a better light, either way, i like hard facts. only people with wavering hearts would exclude him. Platinum Skye wrote: Well try your hardest not to get yourselves into criminal situations or to make enemies that would want to frame you. yeah, that's generally a good idea. but you could be framed even if you have nothing to do with the situation, you just happen to be easy to be framed in the particular situation. |
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| Author: | tsukixkumori [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:30 pm ] |
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Epic fail. That's really all there is to say.
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| Author: | Johnny Rotan [ Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:34 pm ] |
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You've think you've seen everything that's fucked up. Then something new comes along.
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| Author: | DeMatador [ Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:46 pm ] |
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Johnny Rotan wrote: You've think you've seen everything that's fucked up. Then something new comes along. ![]() Dear Mr. Rotan, Read the thread. For our sake. Thanks much, The Court-Records Forum Coppo wrote: Looking at the "Commenters defend woman accused" link, one comment stood out and suggested that the news article itself may not be showing the entire story. Quote: Another comment since removed from the Oakland Press site read: Now that the Oakland Press has found it neccesary to write a one sided story, I'll fill in the missing details. Yes a son was given up for adoption, yes He found her on the internet, or actually they found each other. They met with the permission of the adopted parents, and were able to spend time together to allow him to meet his siblings. This boy was 15 at the time and had emotional problems, had been in trouble with the law and threatened his adoptive parents, also diagnosed as being bipolar. This should have been a sign to proceed with caution. The Oakland press reports as if she tracked him down for sex, which is ludicrous. This was meetings and visits that spanned over a summer to reconnect a family. When things didn't go his way threats were made. Well now those threats have come to light. There are other children to be considered here, that love their mother very much. Before people judge her, lets get the facts. Our court system is innocent until proven guilty!!!!! When the truth comes out I hope the Oakland press will report the truth with accuracy. We all feel for the boy, but putting an innocent woman through this is unjust. He needs serious help. There, Johnny. Now you don't actually have to read the entire thread. I'm just to tired, so I gave the man the fish instead of teaching him how to fish. Maybe next time. |
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| Author: | General Luigi [ Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:00 pm ] |
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If this woman is innocent, I feel extremely sorry for her; even if she's acquitted, people will forever think of her as the mother who had sex with her son. "When you're accused, it's on page 1 of the newspaper. When you're acquitted, it's on page 6." I forget who said that, but there's a lot of truth to it unless you're a huge celebrity. And, innocent or guilty, I imagine people will never look at the son the same way again, so he's also deserving of pity. |
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| Author: | Otenko [ Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:26 pm ] |
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I agree with you Luigi, but WTF?
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| Author: | General Luigi [ Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:30 pm ] |
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What do you mean? If you think I believe beyond all doubt that the accused is innocent, that's not the case; I feel I don't know enough to make an accurate judgment. I'm just stating how much this kind of thing hurts even the innocent. |
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| Author: | DeMatador [ Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:20 pm ] |
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General Luigi wrote: If this woman is innocent, I feel extremely sorry for her; even if she's acquitted, people will forever think of her as the mother who had sex with her son. "When you're accused, it's on page 1 of the newspaper. When you're acquitted, it's on page 6." I forget who said that, but there's a lot of truth to it unless you're a huge celebrity. And, innocent or guilty, I imagine people will never look at the son the same way again, so he's also deserving of pity. I agree completely with this whole post, specially the "When you're accused, it's on page 1 of the newspaper. When you're acquitted, it's on page 6" part. It's a great way to describe what happens every day with newspapers. Apparently, newspaper readers "buy" accusings more than acquittal. It's really sad that this is that way, since it shows how the average reader prefers a person or a party's suffering, rather than it's liberation. It is a simple interpretation, but may be applied more than once. The point is the media sometimes change news so that they sound "darker", because, in some way, it's more of the readers' not liking, but interest. Both the woman and the boy deserve pity, you're right. They've been throught enough already, and he wasn't in a stable mental condition, so cut them some slack. It's horrid how the news linked in the first post of this thread try to say that she tracked her son because she felt like having sex with him. It's much more deeper than that, at least according to the text Coppo quoted. |
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| Author: | Hahex [ Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:20 pm ] |
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ahem, this is a forum for a DEFENSE LAWYER game. Surely thats proven that everything is not as it seems? ... oh wait, it's fiction |
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| Author: | BanhMi [ Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:28 pm ] |
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Coppo wrote: Looking at the "Commenters defend woman accused" link, one comment stood out and suggested that the news article itself may not be showing the entire story. Quote: Another comment since removed from the Oakland Press site read: Now that the Oakland Press has found it neccesary to write a one sided story, I'll fill in the missing details. Yes a son was given up for adoption, yes He found her on the internet, or actually they found each other. They met with the permission of the adopted parents, and were able to spend time together to allow him to meet his siblings. This boy was 15 at the time and had emotional problems, had been in trouble with the law and threatened his adoptive parents, also diagnosed as being bipolar. This should have been a sign to proceed with caution. The Oakland press reports as if she tracked him down for sex, which is ludicrous. This was meetings and visits that spanned over a summer to reconnect a family. When things didn't go his way threats were made. Well now those threats have come to light. There are other children to be considered here, that love their mother very much. Before people judge her, lets get the facts. Our court system is innocent until proven guilty!!!!! When the truth comes out I hope the Oakland press will report the truth with accuracy. We all feel for the boy, but putting an innocent woman through this is unjust. He needs serious help. Thank you. I mean, the way the article's saying it, they're making it seem like the woman went out of her way to track down her son on the internet just to have sex with him. |
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| Author: | DerekAMW [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Women gives son up for adoption, fucks him 10 years later |
BanhMi wrote: Coppo wrote: Looking at the "Commenters defend woman accused" link, one comment stood out and suggested that the news article itself may not be showing the entire story. Quote: Another comment since removed from the Oakland Press site read: Now that the Oakland Press has found it neccesary to write a one sided story, I'll fill in the missing details. Yes a son was given up for adoption, yes He found her on the internet, or actually they found each other. They met with the permission of the adopted parents, and were able to spend time together to allow him to meet his siblings. This boy was 15 at the time and had emotional problems, had been in trouble with the law and threatened his adoptive parents, also diagnosed as being bipolar. This should have been a sign to proceed with caution. The Oakland press reports as if she tracked him down for sex, which is ludicrous. This was meetings and visits that spanned over a summer to reconnect a family. When things didn't go his way threats were made. Well now those threats have come to light. There are other children to be considered here, that love their mother very much. Before people judge her, lets get the facts. Our court system is innocent until proven guilty!!!!! When the truth comes out I hope the Oakland press will report the truth with accuracy. We all feel for the boy, but putting an innocent woman through this is unjust. He needs serious help. Thank you. I mean, the way the article's saying it, they're making it seem like the woman went out of her way to track down her son on the internet just to have sex with him. So you people deny a sexual assault occured? |
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| Author: | L_J [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:05 am ] |
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Platinum Skye wrote: So you people deny a sexual assault occured? no, it looks like they're expressing that the article is unfair to the accused. |
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| Author: | LySs [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:19 am ] |
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I have a strange suspicion that there was no rape at all. That the mother came in contact with her son, and the son didn't know or recognize her, so he probably saw it as sexual assault. But if it is true and there was rape, then well, that's one desperate sick chick Ah well, at least she's hot |
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| Author: | Tinker [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:51 am ] |
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yeah because it's better to fuck your hot mom than your ugly mom |
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| Author: | DeMatador [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:41 pm ] |
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LySs wrote: Ah well, at least she's hot Get out of this thread. |
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| Author: | DerekAMW [ Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:11 pm ] |
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LySs wrote: Ah well, at least she's hot Slightly cute, maybe. Not hot though. |
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