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| Author: | carbon monoxide [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Websense |
This is annoying. At school, they implement this system, websense, to accomplish a counterproductive goal. That is to shut off all paths that do not pertain to education. Oh my god...it's so hard to get past right now. I tried to using several proxies and a few IP pings. However, websense is adaptable!!! Within two months, all my methods had been destroyed. I was once again stuck in cyber-isolation. Any help? Yes, this site is blocked too... |
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| Author: | Finnemore [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
We have filters at our school. We just hack. Like we do to get free drinks from the vending machines. :D |
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| Author: | Ninja Steve [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
I honestly don't know... I've never heard of such an infernal thing in my life. I would normally suggest getting together a group of hackers to retaliate by messing the computers as much as possible. |
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| Author: | neoswordmaster [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Ritsuka~ wrote: We have filters at our school. We just hack. Like we do to get free drinks from the vending machines. :D What kind of vending machines do you have that can be hacked? |
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| Author: | Finnemore [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Lol XD We use the teacher's accounts. The vending machines hav this kind of button thing - when you press it at EXACTLY the point that the drink/food comes out you get your money back :D It takes skill. |
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| Author: | nekonohime [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
When I was in middle school they didn't have filters at all, but when I got to high school the county changed that and they block EVERYTHING. It sucked when I took computer graphics in sophomore year of high school, because Google Images was blocked and we had to bring in CDs/Flash Drives/anything with pictures on it from home :( And the only reason why the county school system where I graduated from even put the filters on in the first place was because some idiot middle school kids were looking at porn in the school lab (Not at my school). As for college, no filters :) |
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| Author: | Ninja Steve [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
nekonohime wrote: As for college, no filters :) Indeed. My first real chance to mess around on the internet was when I started college (last year), mostly between filters at school and DIAL-UP at home (I wish I were joking...) |
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| Author: | 8zack8 [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
@nekonohime : indeed i never had it when i was young (i mean when school) |
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| Author: | Louise [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Well poor you. A few hours without the internet isn't going to kill you, just wait till you get home. |
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| Author: | Catgrenade [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
If it's adaptable, you really couldn't do anything without hacking, or at least to my knowledge. Also, what looby said. |
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| Author: | Croik [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
VeryHappyTaffy wrote: This is annoying. At school, they implement this system, websense, to accomplish a counterproductive goal. That is to shut off all paths that do not pertain to education. How is that counterproductive? If you're at school you're supposed to be learning, not wasting your time here, right? 
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| Author: | Regy Rusty [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Here's an idea. Don't go on the internet at school. O_O NO, MADNESS WHAT AM I SAYING |
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| Author: | carbon monoxide [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
What's with this rampant criticism? I asked for help, not insults. Croik wrote: VeryHappyTaffy wrote: This is annoying. At school, they implement this system, websense, to accomplish a counterproductive goal. That is to shut off all paths that do not pertain to education. How is that counterproductive? If you're at school you're supposed to be learning, not wasting your time here, right? That's the thing. I don't learn much at school. I obtain most of my education through experience, or through research through the internet. Having this constraint on me like a neck vice really reduces my "neutral" scope (Because face it, teachers are biased in some of the things they teach.) Anyways, I'm most focused on the fact that they block a lot of educational forums too. Besides...having websense and Taffy at constant adaptations accelerates my evolution, wouldn't you say? That's, in a sense, learning 
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| Author: | Mike Christiansen [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
At my school (And all the ones in the city), all images searches (Except useless Info.com) are blocked, anything that has anything to do with "Games" is blocked (Strangely, I can access the main site), proxies are blocked, IP ping is blocked... And this even applies to teachers and wirelessly connected computers. And it's counter-productive, Croik, because it blocks images searches. These can be quite useful for media classes, webmastering classes, and for reports when you have class time to work on them. I'm not sure, but they may have even blocked Wikipedia at my school. More on this when I don't forget to look. They let you listen to music while you work, but the only way to do that is to bring your own damned music on a flash drive, since none of the computers have CD drives, and you have to use their grungy headphones (I lucked out and got a nice teacher who lets me use mine), because YouTube and all music streaming sites are blocked. Not to mention, they have DeepFreeze installed on all of the computers. (If you don't know what that is, it's a program that erases all data saved after a preset point in time.) This means every time I log on, I have to reinstall Windows Media Player. Not to mention they don't use GIMP, and I'm in several multimedia classes. I'm relegated to have it installed to my flash drive so I can use it, since FireWorks sucks. And DeepFreeze slows the computers to hell, when they're all already older than the school. (Juan Seguin High was opened in 2002. These are 2001 PCs running XP, pre-SP1) ¬¬ Assholes in the school system. And sometimes, I need something from here on Court Records, anyway... |
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| Author: | Holy Hell [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Hey homo, you're not at school to dick around on the computer There's a reason there's filters up Get a life. If you really need those things for school, then ask a teacher for help and I'm sure they'll give you access to whatever you need. |
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| Author: | General Luigi [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Ah, Websenseless... That brings back a lot of memories--all bad ones. It actually got in the way of education from time to time because some of the sites I tried to use for information in a history project were blocked for some reason. I suggest you do what I did: accept that there are some things the school won't let you do and find other ways to occupy your time. I know of no way to bypass Websense so I can't help you there. Just make do with what Websense hasn't blocked if you absolutely must use the Internet. |
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| Author: | DoMaya [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
I used to be a TA for a computer class. These blocks never stopped me dude, try a proxy. |
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| Author: | Catgrenade [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
DoMaya wrote: try a proxy. It has been stated several times that the proxies are blocked. |
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| Author: | DoMaya [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Heh, not ALL the proxies.... |
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| Author: | Holy Hell [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Looking for proxies that you haven't used yet is going to result in possibly getting viruses or other wacky things. Just... resist the allure of the internet for a few hours. |
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| Author: | Croik [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
VeryHappyTaffy wrote: That's the thing. I don't learn much at school. I obtain most of my education through experience, or through research through the internet. Maybe if you paid better attention in school rather than worry about hacking your way into forums you WOULD learn something...? |
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| Author: | crouton [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
I'm sure you guys can all survive without the internet for a few hours now, can't you? You're in school for a freaking reason. I can't get internet at work because they've blocked most sites on our computers, but you don't hear me bitching about it. Although I do get a sense of satisfaction using my iPhone and logging onto our company's free WiFi to surf the 'net sometimes. |
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| Author: | Holy Hell [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Look at it this way. The education you're seeking is found in a university. If you want to get to this, do your goddamn schoolwork and get to one. Then you will be getting educated at a level you desire. Or drop out altogether, if you think you can handle it (don't). |
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| Author: | Yaragorm [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
My school's internet filter sucks in aGOOD way. My friends one time went to encyclopedia dramatica during animations class...  Court Records is also allowed. Even Rule 34 and various other adult websites are allowed.  We even once had a contest to see who could find a website that would get blocked. Turns out you have to search 'crap' on google images....  I'm pretty sure this was unintentional though... |
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| Author: | Catgrenade [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
The only time I've ever been on a non-educational site during school was on the last day, last year, when we were going to be going to Six Flags, but we didn't leave for two hours. Our teacher didn't feel like doing anything, so he just unlocked a computer lab and basically said, "Do whatever the hell you want." |
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| Author: | carbon monoxide [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Croik wrote: VeryHappyTaffy wrote: That's the thing. I don't learn much at school. I obtain most of my education through experience, or through research through the internet. Maybe if you paid better attention in school rather than worry about hacking your way into forums you WOULD learn something...? It's not that I don't pay attention...You see, I'm quite impassive to boring lessons and monotonous lectures, which is the curriculum our school provides. I find it generic and impersonal, and frankly, it can be improved. Don't get me wrong about diverting my attention elsewhere. I physically can't fall asleep in class, so I am forced to absorb the work, whether I like it or not. Also, not to be boastful, but I'm quite a quick learner. I don't spend that much time on schoolwork. And really, it doesn't help me past the initial lesson and 3 or four exercises. Anything more is a waste on me. Besides, I wrote down "This site is blocked too" as an auxiliary problem. The primary obstacle is the impersonal reviews of all the websites. ((I wasn't aware that it blocked all image searches, but they do block all media streaming, so that when I try to listen to songs on youtube to improve my piano or violin playing, it's hopeless. Discussions with friends regarding difficult problems that require collaboration is also prohibited. Half of my teachers were raising similar complaints about websense.)) What really irks me is that the school is cutting funds for our Academic Team Trips in order to allot money to this absurd endeavor. Jesus Christ! I wish someone on our school's administration would realize that dictatorial oversight of students will not provide for a learning environment that bears fruits of progress. |
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| Author: | Holy Hell [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Ha. |
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| Author: | L_J [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
i don't see this as a problem as long as your classes aren't heavily based on using the school computers, sure, it's annoying and stupid, but just go on at home. |
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| Author: | Holy Hell [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
You know he's an intellectual because he plays violin and piano. |
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| Author: | OMFG [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
In programming here, my teacher will give us extra credit if we figure out a way to get past netops and websense. It's pretty awesome. Other than that, websense is only mildly annoying when trying to find information that's not already provided for us on Databases my school bought so we can do research projects. They also don't block image searches, for that is really retarded. If I wanted to fuck about in class I can just play Star Craft. So if you're having trouble researching information and images, ask your goddamn school to buy databases to use, ask your school to unblock image searches so you can do graphic projects at school. Tell your school that DeepFreeze is hindering your ability to make and create multimedia projects, do something about it you retard. |
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| Author: | Bad Player [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Go onto youtube to improve your violin and piano at home. Talk with your friends in person, or work on it on your own at school and get together afterschool. Just deal with it, seriously. (I also like OMFG's suggestions) |
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| Author: | carbon monoxide [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Holy Hell wrote: You know he's an intellectual because he plays violin and piano. ...uncalled for... I'm getting flamed on this thread for what? The fact that I'm trying to get past a corporation's invention that seriously bothers me? I'm just informing the school that they're wasting money, because, face it, websense isn't free. And it certainly doesn't help when they take that money out of extracurricular activities that I participate in. OMFG wrote: In programming here, my teacher will give us extra credit if we figure out a way to get past netops and websense. It's pretty awesome. Other than that, websense is only mildly annoying when trying to find information that's not already provided for us on Databases my school bought so we can do research projects. They also don't block image searches, for that is really retarded. If I wanted to fuck about in class I can just play Star Craft. So if you're having trouble researching information and images, ask your goddamn school to buy databases to use, ask your school to unblock image searches so you can do graphic projects at school. Tell your school that DeepFreeze is hindering your ability to make and create multimedia projects, do something about it you retard. Before you go about calling me a retard, why don't you consider the weight of my requests? "Hey! I'm really having trouble with websense. It's interfering with my education in many ways. Could you maybe get rid of it?" You don't think, our school, with thousands of other students, hasn't received requests like that? And you think I, just one more guy, can make a difference? And it's not DeepFreeze. ((Besides, What kind of name is DeepFreeze for web restricting???)) And seriously, I fail to understand why some people are so tempted to turn this into a debate. Seriously, why? If you don't like my goals, it really doesn't help to complain about it here. |
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| Author: | Catgrenade [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
VeryHappyTaffy wrote: Croik wrote: VeryHappyTaffy wrote: listen to songs on youtube to improve my piano or violin playing, it's hopeless. And why the hell can't you do this at home? Do you think that just because you're listening to music to improve your ability to play an instrument you're still not screwing off? Can we just end this thread with, "Shut up and do your shit?" |
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| Author: | carbon monoxide [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Catgrenade wrote: VeryHappyTaffy wrote: VeryHappyTaffy wrote: listen to songs on youtube to improve my piano or violin playing, it's hopeless. And why the hell can't you do this at home? Do you think that just because you're listening to music to improve your ability to play an instrument you're still not screwing off? Can we just end this thread with, "Shut up and do your shit?" I just find websense abhorrent. It doesn't have to turn into a fully fledged debate about practicality. This controversy isn't getting anywhere. Sure, whatever. I don't have authorization to lock this thread, though, so you're not going to achieve anything by asking me. |
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| Author: | Croik [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Websense |
Hey come on, I was in school once too you know! In fact, this is where I shake my cane and say, "Back in MY day we didn't get computers! We had 6 Macs in the library open for 20 minutes during lunch!" All we had access to was Mah Jong and Claris Works, and not having Google Images did not prevent us from making beautiful posterboards for history reports. Sure, school is boring. Everyone feels that way, everyone complains. But you just have to take what you can from it, because saying stuff like "School is so unfair, it won't let me check my Myspace!" (or whatever) does not convince anyone that you're smart enough to not be paying attention. (Not only that, but even if you do get around the Wesense, won't you get in trouble if spotted by a teacher? My sister teachers in a school with 1-1 laptops, and they'll get their computer taken away for that) Anyway, since this thread is going nowhere fast, time for lock. |
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