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Author:  Lunaria42 [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:59 am ]
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Yaragorm wrote:
Lunaria42 wrote:
Yaragorm wrote:
Then what else could explain him wanting to pass the bill given the new information this guy said?


I guess the president couldn't possibly want the United States to be on the same level educationally as all the developed and developing nations that have better test scores and educational systems.

You mean we AREN'T?!? :udgy:


Are you freaking kidding me? I wouldn't be surprised if were still third from the bottom. There are many developing nations (i.e. Third World Countries) who consistently out perform us in standard Math and Science exams.
Author:  Yaragorm [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:01 am ]
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Lunaria42 wrote:
Are you freaking kidding me? I wouldn't be surprised if were still third from the bottom. There are many developing nations (i.e. Third World Countries) who consistently out perform us in standard Math and Science exams.

Well excuse me for not knowing that, it's not like they teach you THAT in school....

It just didn't seem that way with the school I go to. But then again, it is an all-asian school...
Author:  Lunaria42 [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:08 am ]
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Yaragorm wrote:
Lunaria42 wrote:
Are you freaking kidding me? I wouldn't be surprised if were still third from the bottom. There are many developing nations (i.e. Third World Countries) who consistently out perform us in standard Math and Science exams.

Well excuse me for not knowing that, it's not like they teach you THAT in school....

It just didn't seem that way with the school I go to. But then again, it is an all-asian school...


Funny, we learned that in the school I went to. The US doesn't rank as low as I said after doing a quick search (hyperbole is fun). I do remember the statistics leaning like toward those numbers several years ago, and I'll need to do a more thorough search before I can confirm or correct that statement. We are no where near the top ten in most recent lists depending on the subject in question.
Author:  L_J [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:21 am ]
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Yaragorm wrote:
Lunaria42 wrote:
Are you freaking kidding me? I wouldn't be surprised if were still third from the bottom. There are many developing nations (i.e. Third World Countries) who consistently out perform us in standard Math and Science exams.

Well excuse me for not knowing that, it's not like they teach you THAT in school....

It just didn't seem that way with the school I go to. But then again, it is an all-asian school...

you know, it's good to discuss current events in school too. really could help america's ignorance.
Author:  Louise [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:01 am ]
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Equilibrate Concerto wrote:
he was a C-student and a pot smoker.


I wish we could have him.
Author:  Femme Fatale [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:28 am ]
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Lunaria42 wrote:
Yaragorm wrote:
Lunaria42 wrote:
Are you freaking kidding me? I wouldn't be surprised if were still third from the bottom. There are many developing nations (i.e. Third World Countries) who consistently out perform us in standard Math and Science exams.

Well excuse me for not knowing that, it's not like they teach you THAT in school....

It just didn't seem that way with the school I go to. But then again, it is an all-asian school...


Funny, we learned that in the school I went to. The US doesn't rank as low as I said after doing a quick search (hyperbole is fun). I do remember the statistics leaning like toward those numbers several years ago, and I'll need to do a more thorough search before I can confirm or correct that statement. We are no where near the top ten in most recent lists depending on the subject in question.


They still rank pretty low. Canada consistantly beats them too. Though, to be fair, in Canada we do little projects and research on these kinds of statistics. I'm just involved in a lot of extra-curricular activities where I learn random shit and current events-- or research to stroke my patriotic ego. ;n; sobbu

where did it all go wrong anyways? (with the education system i mean)

p.s. I wish Obama was my president/prime minster
Author:  dullahan1 [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:09 pm ]
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Where did it all go wrong? We put people who aren't, and have never been teachers, to make decisions for the well-being of our schools because they know much more about what's going on than teachers do. I trust their attempts at trying to make smart decisions.
Author:  Arutica [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:20 pm ]
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Yaragorm wrote:
Lunaria42 wrote:
Are you freaking kidding me? I wouldn't be surprised if were still third from the bottom. There are many developing nations (i.e. Third World Countries) who consistently out perform us in standard Math and Science exams.

Well excuse me for not knowing that, it's not like they teach you THAT in school....

It just didn't seem that way with the school I go to. But then again, it is an all-asian school...


You know, I haven't been to your school, but I have to say, it does seem that way with your school.
Author:  Ultimate Prosecutor [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:07 pm ]
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Your last two presidents achieved low grades, smoked pot or were cheer leaders in Texas.
Britain's Prime Ministers have been privately educated, top University graduates. No, you're not very high in the standards.

loobywright wrote:
Equilibrate Concerto wrote:
he was a C-student and a pot smoker.


I wish we could have him.


Aww, did you see Browny being interviewed by the mean woman from BBC Breakfast yesterday? I felt so sorry for him. He seems a nice guy, just utterly lacking in people skills. Someone needs to give him a big hug.
We need another Blair (you know, pre-Iraq he was friggin Awesome!).
Author:  Dylia [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:29 pm ]
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Should have voted for McCain...

If this becomes reality, I seriously might consider hanging myself.

Seriously. :yogi:
Author:  Ultimate Prosecutor [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:00 pm ]
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So do you not actually live in Oxford, England then?
Author:  Romeo [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:25 pm ]
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Ok, I live in the Uk, but 3 more hours?! That is an overload. If they do this, then I'll be expecting less or no homework to make up for it, because what free time will they have left? They will come home, eat dinner, do homework, and for younger children, go to bed, for older children, they don't have much free time, do they? No, this is a bad idea.
Author:  Louise [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:10 pm ]
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Ultimate Prosecutor wrote:
Aww, did you see Browny being interviewed by the mean woman from BBC Breakfast yesterday? I felt so sorry for him. He seems a nice guy, just utterly lacking in people skills. Someone needs to give him a big hug.
We need another Blair (you know, pre-Iraq he was friggin Awesome!).


Haha aww I missed that, poor Gordon ;__; XD

I used to love Tony Blair before he started bending over for Bush.
Author:  Holy Hell [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:30 pm ]
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Dylia wrote:
Should have voted for McCain...

If this becomes reality, I seriously might consider hanging myself.

Seriously. :yogi:


Just to be safe, hang yourself now.

Godspeed.
Author:  justis76 [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:17 pm ]
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Yaragorm wrote:
Lunaria42 wrote:
Yaragorm wrote:
Then what else could explain him wanting to pass the bill given the new information this guy said?


I guess the president couldn't possibly want the United States to be on the same level educationally as all the developed and developing nations that have better test scores and educational systems.

You mean we AREN'T?!? :udgy:


*facedesk*
You silly americans. I'm glad I live in Canada. But if Obama does it, I wouldn't put it past Harper to follow suit...
Author:  carbon monoxide [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:19 pm ]
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I'll tell you this. Politicians are quite wily. I think that no decisions should be made until comprehensive reasoning from both sides, or all sides if there are over two possible outcomes, is heard by unbiased mediators.

If the checks-balance system truly works in America, then there should be no problem. However, it doesn't seem like that. Given the recent reports of corruption, (Illinois senators, Alberto Gonzales, Libby...to name a few...) reminisces back to the gilded age, the trend of more wealth concentrated in the hands of the already upper class (another sign of the gilded age), and the global recession, you should be apprehensive about the intentions of our government.

Not to turn this into a political issue. Oh no...but Obama shouldn't try to force this decision past a certain point. I was under the impression that education experts and early childhood psychologists would be the best people to consult on this matter, not the politicians themselves. (Ask any politician the physics behind a Nuke. I'll eat my shirt if they're able to tell you).

And he shouldn't try to impose this enactment on all schoolchildren. Different cases must be dealt in different ways. More educationally challenged students must be given special attention, while the gifted should be able to move up the tiers more quickly and circumvent mandatory school extensions.

Just another two cents on the matter
Author:  Bad Player [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:46 pm ]
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
(Ask any politician the physics behind a Nuke. I'll eat my shirt if they're able to tell you).

Do you mean the basic particle-hits-a-uranium-atom-which-causes-fission-and-releases-more-particles-which-hit-even-more-uranium-and so on or something more detailed? :yuusaku: *is taking it way too seriously*


But yeah, probably best to hear about teachers' and child psychologists' opinions on this, and run some experimental test runs on some schools before just socking it on the entire country at once.
Author:  carbon monoxide [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:48 pm ]
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Bad Player wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
(Ask any politician the physics behind a Nuke. I'll eat my shirt if they're able to tell you).

Do you mean the basic particle-hits-a-uranium-atom-which-causes-fission-and-releases-more-particles-which-hit-even-more-uranium-and so on or something more detailed? :yuusaku: *is taking it way too seriously*


No, I mean the precise and tedious calculations, making sure detonation's on time, why it requires 99.7% enriched Uranium, matter-energy conversion process, where the stray neutron comes from in the first place, etc.

In short, the stuff we learn in AP Physics B taken to a whole new level.
Author:  Louise [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:54 pm ]
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
More educationally challenged students must be given special attention, while the gifted should be able to move up the tiers more quickly and circumvent mandatory school extensions.


So... you're saying that you think you should be in school for longer? I thought you were against the idea.

I'll give you special attention taffy <3
Author:  carbon monoxide [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:58 pm ]
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loobywright wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
More educationally challenged students must be given special attention, while the gifted should be able to move up the tiers more quickly and circumvent mandatory school extensions.


So... you're saying that you think you should be in school for longer? I thought you were against the idea.

VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Circumvent
Author:  crouton [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:58 pm ]
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
No, I mean the precise and tedious calculations, making sure detonation's on time, why it requires 99.7% enriched Uranium, matter-energy conversion process, where the stray neutron comes from in the first place, etc.

In short, the stuff we learn in AP Physics B taken to a whole new level.


Wow, someone's trying a little too hard to show off to everyone here.

I still think that at least shortening summer holiday is something worth looking into. Or maybe the year-round school system even.

VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
loobywright wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
More educationally challenged students must be given special attention, while the gifted should be able to move up the tiers more quickly and circumvent mandatory school extensions.


So... you're saying that you think you should be in school for longer? I thought you were against the idea.

VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Circumvent


You're totally missing it.
Author:  carbon monoxide [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:00 pm ]
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..... :meekins:
Author:  Bad Player [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:24 pm ]
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crouton wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
No, I mean the precise and tedious calculations, making sure detonation's on time, why it requires 99.7% enriched Uranium, matter-energy conversion process, where the stray neutron comes from in the first place, etc.

In short, the stuff we learn in AP Physics B taken to a whole new level.


Wow, someone's trying a little too hard to show off to everyone here.

I'll take the blame for bringing it up, though (well, VHT made the bet, but I actually took it seriously xD)

So you're basically betting that no politician has the smarts to actually make a nuke.


And it's a bit of a faulty comparison. You don't need to know how to build a nuke to know all of the consequences that launching one will have. You kinda do need to know how a child's mind works to predict what sort of changes extending school hours will effect.
Author:  Ultimate Prosecutor [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:00 pm ]
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VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Ask any politician the physics behind a Nuke.


VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
No, I mean the precise and tedious calculations, making sure detonation's on time, why it requires
99.7% enriched Uranium, matter-energy conversion process, where the stray neutron comes from in the first place, etc.

In short, the stuff we learn in AP Physics B taken to a whole new level.


I imagine if a low life, poorly educated sixteen year old nobody like you knows something like this, then any politician in a position to need to know this, will indeed know this.
Author:  justis76 [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:06 pm ]
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Why do you assume he's poorly educated? Any particular reason why you chose to attack people in this topic rather than debate?

My opinion: It probably won't happen, because if it does, people will probably riot, and the drop-out rate would increase exponentially. Stick to health care, Obama.
Author:  Ultimate Prosecutor [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:32 pm ]
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Because he's 16 so not finished high school even, thus not totally educated, and I will assume by probability American, who we've agreed statistically are comparatively poorly educated. If I am wrong on the second point, apologies.

Happy that I was actually making an ironic yet valid point?

Good.
Author:  justis76 [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:40 pm ]
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Actually, not pleased. Taffy's in school, so his opinion matters. Even if it seemed a bit cocky to imply he knew more than a politician, of all of the places to make fun of him due to his age (wtf???), this would not be one of them. After all, Obama's doing this for the kids, it's only sensible to have a American students opinion on the matter. And although many Americans aren't as educated, they're by no means dumb, they do learn valuable things in school, and I sincerely doubt Taffy is one of the less-educated Americans.

BTW, why are we talking about nuclear physics & whatnot? It's irrelevant.
Author:  NinjaMonkey [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:47 pm ]
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Rather than adding more hours to the school day, wouldn't it be better to improve the quality of the children's teaching?
Author:  justis76 [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:50 pm ]
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Well, this is the American government we're talking about, so they probably wouldn't think of that. Sorry for joining the Anti-American bandwagon, but seriously, what is it with you guys and your "quantity over quality" thing? Why not just improve standards? It'd take a while, but slow and steady wins the race.
Author:  neoswordmaster [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:52 pm ]
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NinjaMonkey wrote:
Rather than adding more hours to the school day, wouldn't it be better to improve the quality of the children's teaching?


It depends on how you would go about improving the quality.

While you could go the route of better school rescources and teaching plans, different teachers have different teaching methods. There are a few variables that would be difficult to control.
Author:  justis76 [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:55 pm ]
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Wait, I forget, is America's way of teaching actually worse, or is it that the people there just know less? Because if it's the latter, it might just be due to a higher drop-out rate, but I'm 90% it's the former.
Author:  crouton [ Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:10 pm ]
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justis76 wrote:
Wait, I forget, is America's way of teaching actually worse, or is it that the people there just know less? Because if it's the latter, it might just be due to a higher drop-out rate, but I'm 90% it's the former.


Honestly, it's probably a combination of both.

And the level of education you get also depends what state you live in as well. I moved to the USA from Canada, down to Georgia to be exact. I spent two years there in school, and had really good grades and such. I moved up to upstate New York, and to my dismay, I found out that I was about a year behind in certain subjects. I managed to catch up to my classmates, and with good grades to boot, but that really hit home to me how there's such a vast difference between getting an education in Georgia than in New York. I'm thankful that a little more than half of my educational years were spent in Canada, and I'm glad that I finished out school in New York State.

Plus, standards for teachers vary from state to state as well. Here in North Carolina, as long as you have a degree in a designated subject, you can teach that subject. Like, if I had an English degree, I could go get a job as an English teacher even though I haven't been trained to do so. In New York, you have to get a Master's in Teaching first, as well as minor in the subject you're teaching. Or something along those lines. It's probably changed slightly since I've last looked into it, but either way you have to have some sort of degree in teaching.
Author:  LySs [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:00 am ]
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Ugh, NY State Department of Education is ridiculous.

We're the only state in the U.S. that still have to take regent exams.
Which is silly because if you decide to go to a college in another state, regent scores don't mean a thing.

And yet our classes constantly pushed us to study for these state regents, made us take prep classes, and had us go home us with gratuitous amounts of homework to top it all off. Plus, since this was Senior year, some students had to make time to take Drivers Ed after school. Unfortunately, we all had no choice but to take the regents, or else we weren't graduating.

Needless to say, 95% of my school failed the Math B Regent exam. Thankfully, you didn't need to pass that one to graduate, but if you did, you'd get a shiny gold sticker on your diploma. Whoowee.

I heard our department of education is going through some changes. Hopefully for the better.
Author:  crouton [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:25 am ]
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When I was in school, both NYS and California had Regents exams. But Regents was optional. Is it not optional now? You could graduate with a regular diploma (and take non-Regents classes), a Regents Diploma, or a Regents Diploma with honors. Things certainly have changed if that's the case!
Author:  LySs [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:30 am ]
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I don't know, but I'm pretty sure in our school it was mandatory. I graduated in 2007.
Author:  Yaragorm [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:32 am ]
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justis76 wrote:
Well, this is the American government we're talking about, so they probably wouldn't think of that. Sorry for joining the Anti-American bandwagon, but seriously, what is it with you guys and your "quantity over quality" thing? Why not just improve standards? It'd take a while, but slow and steady wins the race.


I agree with this, even though I fall into this category.....I guess there must be something that makes all americans like that...
Author:  Amabile Vendetta [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:46 am ]
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I disagree that adding hours will help the school day. As it is, at my school we have at the least 6, most 7 (plus lunch), hours in school. Not that it bothers me, but I notice that most kids are too hyper or too tired throughout the day to even concentrate. Already, this year, I had 20 minutes added to my school day; I wasn't very pleased as it was. But I won't bore you further with the horrible situation that is my school system and it's students.

Point is, as a high school junior, I would not want more hours added to my day. I already have 6 different classes, and 2 of them electives, that I didn't really want, but had to choose because it was mandatory. Plus, there's not really many more mandatory subjects that I'd like made; except maybe a form of art, but I'd still say no to that, because not all people are artistic people; I just happen to be.

And, one more thing. For people like me, who work after school, how would I be able to do so if I have 3 more hours taken away from my day? That would limit me to about 4 hours to work after school, and that's if they were back to back.

Yeah, the "more school hours" situation just wouldn't work my advantage. Then again, by the time anything came into effect, I'm sure I'd be graduated by then (or 2012 will come and destroy us all :yogi: ), so I guess I shouldn't be complaining.
Author:  carbon monoxide [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:33 am ]
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Ultimate Prosecutor wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Ask any politician the physics behind a Nuke.


VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
No, I mean the precise and tedious calculations, making sure detonation's on time, why it requires
99.7% enriched Uranium, matter-energy conversion process, where the stray neutron comes from in the first place, etc.

In short, the stuff we learn in AP Physics B taken to a whole new level.


I imagine if a low life, poorly educated sixteen year old nobody like you knows something like this, then any politician in a position to need to know this, will indeed know this.


UltimateProsecutor wrote:
If a low life, poorly educated sixteen year old...


What's with this personal attack? You don't even know me.


Low life:...I'll let it slide...
Poorly educated: By American standards, my education is incredibly rigorous. By Chinese standards (country I come from), my education's barely on par with them.
Sixteen year old: What does this have to do with anything? There are four year olds smarter than adults. So drop the assumptions, OK?

As for politicians in a position to know whatever, I can't describe the process to you. I'm not that educated. Remember that I wrote something about it being in a whole 'nother level compared to college level physics.

There was a clandestine government agency devoted to the program. It must not have been easy. Point I'm trying to make is that politicians really don't know much about the things they contest. (Ex. Obama may try to push health care reform through, yet I doubt he knows how the cure for pneumonia works step by step.) So Obama really shouldn't just conjure the bill out of the blue and try to pass it through as a whatever whatever.

And cut the personal attacks. :larry:

Yaragorm wrote:
justis76 wrote:
Well, this is the American government we're talking about, so they probably wouldn't think of that. Sorry for joining the Anti-American bandwagon, but seriously, what is it with you guys and your "quantity over quality" thing? Why not just improve standards? It'd take a while, but slow and steady wins the race.


I agree with this, even though I fall into this category.....I guess there must be something that makes all americans like that...


Quality over quantity? No. I think the government's not going about picking up the pieces of overreliance on welfare the right way. They're not up to date with the current protocol when it comes to kids and their education. In short, the system's obsolete.

And the Medicaid/Medicare fiasco doesn't help ease matters either.
Author:  dullahan1 [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:06 am ]
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justis76 wrote:
Well, this is the American government we're talking about, so they probably wouldn't think of that. Sorry for joining the Anti-American bandwagon, but seriously, what is it with you guys and your "quantity over quality" thing? Why not just improve standards? It'd take a while, but slow and steady wins the race.


Because Americans are greedy and want results right then and there. They are very impatient and if they want something, they'll do whatever it takes to get it. Want a good example? Most Americans are fat. Why? Because they are very impatient and they want food right then and there and thus they get instant results. Obesity.
Author:  Femme Fatale [ Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:33 am ]
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justis76 wrote:
*facedesk*
You silly americans. I'm glad I live in Canada. But if Obama does it, I wouldn't put it past Harper to follow suit...


Harper would never follow suit because he was Bush's little puppet. Remember?

Harper's a conservative and Obama's liberal-- I doubt he'd try to listen to what Obama said. But I'm curious to what Harper is doing without Bush (read: Cheney) telling him.

By the way, do you know when the next Canadian election is? I think the Liberals are trying for one this fall...

VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Bad Player wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
(Ask any politician the physics behind a Nuke. I'll eat my shirt if they're able to tell you).

Do you mean the basic particle-hits-a-uranium-atom-which-causes-fission-and-releases-more-particles-which-hit-even-more-uranium-and so on or something more detailed? :yuusaku: *is taking it way too seriously*


No, I mean the precise and tedious calculations, making sure detonation's on time, why it requires 99.7% enriched Uranium, matter-energy conversion process, where the stray neutron comes from in the first place, etc.

In short, the stuff we learn in AP Physics B taken to a whole new level.


Quick, name me every part of the brain, all of their functions and every chemical reaction within those sections.

Oh, you can't? Well, I don't think you deserve to cook anymore. Shame on you. Making nuke's aren't part of a president's every list. But, I'm pretty sure shaping the present and future of the people for the better is on that list. Last time I checked children were people and deciding on their education is a major part of shaping their future. Though it's smarter for him to consult an advisor or a specialist before finalising a decision (which he hasn't yet and the bill still needs to be passed. It's just a suggestion). But, deciding the school hours for a child is much different then being told to make a nuke. Just as thinking "I think everyone should be able to go to the hospital without worrying about paying for their fees so that we can become a healthy nation" has hardly anything to do with knowing about curing pneumonia. (Obama isn't Jesus. Believe it or not.) I know you want to show off what you learned in class yesterday, but please just try to leave your sciolistic attitude outside of this.

VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
loobywright wrote:
VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
More educationally challenged students must be given special attention, while the gifted should be able to move up the tiers more quickly and circumvent mandatory school extensions.


So... you're saying that you think you should be in school for longer? I thought you were against the idea.

VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
Circumvent

VeryHappyTaffy wrote:
More educationally challenged students must be given special attention.

I don't see the word circumvent anywhere in that sentence.
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