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Author:  General Luigi [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Obama wanting to add 3 more hours to school days.

That's a pity. There are definitely problems with the educational system, but I doubt adding more time will make things much better, if at all. I imagine truancy rates will skyrocket and the extra funding for keeping the schools up and running the extra time will probably be taken out of more important things like the already low salaries of teachers and the already underfunded materials like textbooks. I think Obama's great, but I really hope he reconsiders this particular plan; I can't see it working without money being poured into educational systems nationwide.

Author:  Idiot_Lawyer [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:51 am ]
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the system needs to be almost redone from the ground up. the problem is funding such a thing. most states have problems trying to fund what we are doing now (wich is why the education level varies from state to state)

Michigan still hasn't figured out the budget for the 2010 fiscal year and it was sapose to be turned in last thursday. first thing on the chopping block education like every year :sadshoe:

Author:  Darkdamacus [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:15 pm ]
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11 Hours!? I can't take 5, let alone 11! :sadshoe:

Author:  L_J [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:35 pm ]
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Darkdamacus wrote:
11 Hours!? I can't take 5, let alone 11! :sadshoe:

it's. not. 11.

Author:  Coffee Prosecutor [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:42 pm ]
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OMG!!!
That´s horrible!!!
What a luck that I live in Germany
well
LUCK???
Now all of our activities at our PC are looked on!!
and they can do ANYTHING with your data on your PC
the State is like that: :karma:
and we are like: :beef:

Author:  Darkdamacus [ Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:51 pm ]
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9, Sorry.. Heheh.. ^.^"

Man, People looking into my private data on my computer? I would be like.. :edgeworth:

Author:  Femme Fatale [ Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:42 am ]
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Darkdamacus wrote:
9, Sorry.. Heheh.. ^.^"


5+3 = 8.

Author:  Lunaria42 [ Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:44 am ]
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Femme Fatale wrote:
Darkdamacus wrote:
9, Sorry.. Heheh.. ^.^"


5+3 = 8.


I wondered when someone would point that out. Good job, Sara. Sounds like some people need more time in school.

Author:  Darkdamacus [ Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:15 am ]
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Heheh.. Those 3 hours suddenly sound nice.. :edgy:

Author:  Idiot_Lawyer [ Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:49 am ]
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my work is 7 hrs and 6 mins


ya it's fun

actualy instructor time is more like 6hrs after lunch break and passing time

Author:  blinq [ Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:14 am ]
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Femme Fatale wrote:
Darkdamacus wrote:
9, Sorry.. Heheh.. ^.^"


5+3 = 8.


o_0 I have to sit in school for 8 hours like three times a week

Author:  Ultimate Prosecutor [ Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:26 pm ]
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You're only in school for 5 hours a day? O_o

Author:  SD-Rim_6 [ Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:04 pm ]
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It's days like these I'm glad I don't go to public school, but still I don't want this to happen because most (if not all) people would be miserable if they had to go to school 10-11 hours a day

Author:  carbon monoxide [ Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:04 pm ]
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Since Ultimate Prosecutor obviously thinks my opinions have no merit, let's cite a comparison of why 11 hours a day is unnecessary.

I recently went to China for a visit. While I was there, my parents enrolled me for a week in one of the inner-country schools that run from 7:00 AM sharp to 11:50 AM. From there you are allowed a 2 hour lunch break, and are expected to make it back at 2:00. Three more hours of classes is followed by a one hour dinner break (at school), and then proceeds to class from 6:00 to 9:20. Let's do a little math now...

That's 11 hours of school. If you add the dinner break and the lunch break, it's 14. Not appealing, now is it?

Now, back to America. School hours here are 8:30-3:30. Seven hours.

Guess what? My cousin goes the aforementioned Chinese school. I go to the school in America. I'm not stupider than he is, and I certainly don't know less.

From here? We can conclude that number of hours for school will NOT significantly affect intelligence. It's how the curriculum is presented that counts.

So obviously, the government didn't do comprehensive research (according to the titular article), Ultimate Prosecutor. They know the hours other kids in other nations spend, but they doesn't know exactly how they are spent.

So instead of trying to procure government control of public schools, Obama should be leaving it to the education department, while should be focusing on appointing competent people for those positions.

Those are my two cents.

Author:  Grancko [ Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:47 pm ]
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Ultimate Prosecutor wrote:
You're only in school for 5 hours a day? O_o

I'm in for 6-7...

Author:  justis76 [ Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:23 pm ]
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I'm in school for 6 hours.

Author:  nekonohime [ Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:33 pm ]
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I am so glad I got out of compulsory school when I did (2008), and with college you can make your own schedule which is great :redd: (I currently only go to school for 2 hours on Mondays and Wednesdays, and 1 hour on Tuesdays and Thursdays)

Author:  Coffee Prosecutor [ Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:10 pm ]
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nekonohime wrote:
I am so glad I got out of compulsory school when I did (2008), and with college you can make your own schedule which is great :redd: (I currently only go to school for 2 hours on Mondays and Wednesdays, and 1 hour on Tuesdays and Thursdays)

What do u wanna study later?? :hair-bounce:

Author:  Yaragorm [ Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:45 pm ]
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Let's see....my school starts at 7:40 and ends at 2:32...

Although I usually get there at 7:15 and leave at 3:00......

So my school is 6 hours and 52 minutes long while I'm actually there for 7 hours and 45 minutes...... :udgy:

Author:  justis76 [ Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:47 pm ]
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Lol, fail. I usually get home at 3, but school ends at 2:25, and starts at 8:21. 6 hours and 4 minutes.

Author:  nekonohime [ Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:57 pm ]
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Coffee Prosecutor wrote:
What do u wanna study later?? :hair-bounce:

Well I'm in community college right now, and I've changed my career goals many times, but I've finally decided I want to get a master's in Library Science, so I can become a librarian. (I don't know which kind though, because they have TONS of different types of libraries.)

Author:  Coffee Prosecutor [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:04 am ]
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What are u doing then?(wht´ll be your excercises)?

Author:  nekonohime [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:07 am ]
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Coffee Prosecutor wrote:
What are u doing then?(wht´ll be your excercises)?

If you mean what classes I'm doing now, I'm taking Art History, World History, Creative Writing, and Child Psychology.

Author:  Coffee Prosecutor [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:08 am ]
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nekonohime wrote:
Coffee Prosecutor wrote:
What are u doing then?(wht´ll be your excercises)?

If you mean what classes I'm doing now, I'm taking Art History, World History, Creative Writing, and Child Psychology.

No!
What does a libarian!
Sry . . .Bot!
that´s Crap! :godot:(I mean the 3 hours added)

Author:  Louise [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:00 pm ]
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Yaragorm wrote:
my school starts at 7:40 and ends at 2:32


wtf

What's with the 2 minutes O_o

Author:  neoswordmaster [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:02 pm ]
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loobywright wrote:
Yaragorm wrote:
my school starts at 7:40 and ends at 2:32


wtf

What's with the 2 minutes O_o


Mine used to end at 3:38

Author:  Louise [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:56 pm ]
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That's fucking stupid.

It would have driven me crazy if we didn't end on a nice rounded up time >.<

Author:  Ultimate Prosecutor [ Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:47 pm ]
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Ok, the average seems to be around 6-7 hours.
In Britain we are in from 8:30-3:30, so like 8 hours. And without the long summer break that's quite a lot more time.
Sure, 3 extra hours is horrendous, but 1 or 2? Just to get it around 8. I think that's about right for a school day.

And yea, odd times would send my OCD crazy.

Author:  Yaragorm [ Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:06 am ]
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loobywright wrote:
Yaragorm wrote:
my school starts at 7:40 and ends at 2:32


wtf

What's with the 2 minutes O_o

Hey how should I know? It's still better than last year when I took an extra period which ended at 3:31........

Author:  Daniel Fairhammer [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:52 pm ]
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In Sowjet Russia, child teach you!


WATCH OUT, WALL OF TEXT!


Ok that was the starting spam now lets get serious.

At first:
I'm sorry to say that but a lot of people here has really NO clue what politics are!
I even couldn't read everything because it was filled with:
-Spam
-Random Jibberish (Sry, pal! I didn't mean the user :D )
-Smattering knowledge
-And personal offensive against each other...

But as many people said it right:
Obama didn't shoot from a blue and neither there was a talk of 11 hours per day.

About beeing German:
-All your nazi-flames are belong to us.(And I'm originally from Poland, but this doesn't matter for the most *rolleyes* )
-We had the same problems like you about education and school
- Ecuse my not sooooo good english!

Now to that what I want to tell you:

Just to say "OLOLOLOL MAKE QUALITY OF SCHOLL BETTER!!!1111 GIEV GIF!!!" is not the way it will be better.
As somebody already said "slow and steady will win the race."
In addition, every state should continue handling education and school for there own just with an improved general framework.(like there was the example that you don't need the master of educatin in a state to teach... don't hit me if its wrong, I'm not familiar with U.S. education law.).
The social standard should be raised.
To raise it, the most american can start with not discriminating not-white-people.
Yes, there is plenty enough racism in America which is redundant...
(I see the nazi-flames comming!)
90% of all shows at television shown in Germany are rubbish and make people stupid. The ideas for this stupid shows are comming from america...
(And they're running in america as well).
I don't have something against every sitcom (I mean Scrubs, King of Queens, Doctor Hous... quite amusing shows, rally I like 'em) or other shows, but the most are stupid and make people stupid.
"Stupid show makes stupid" .- End quote
In addition, (And thats where I give Michael Moore right about it) the american news are full of natural disasters, plagues, war, and other things which has to fear people. (I don't know If you've seen "Stuid White Men" but some arguments and facts of M.M (not the candy -_-) are facts which I can aprove!You may say OLOLOLOL ITS SO OLD OLOL ITS NOT UP-TO-DATE. I say, it IS up-to-date.)
Cause the most people are whaching TV there are two things here which prevent people to get smart. (Not the main reasons but their TWO of a lot).
Racism as I mentioned before.
And I think I don't had to explain why it is bad for higher-standart.
If it IS!!! intended that the people shouldn't get smart and encourage people getting dumb is , is an other question (which I won't discuss here or elsewhere at the internetz).
Another aspekt is the social one.
Look at the education of the childreen nowerdays (In U.S and germany).
I mean, there are so many people in the whole world which shouldn't have childreen. Childreen with an unproper education ends in the most cases as a dumb donkey.
In addition, a lot of childreen are living in social weeker occurrences which makes hard to get a higher basic knowledge...

And here we link a connection now, look it's easy.

Dumb parents which are totally overstrained with their childreen + fastidious childreen(I hope you all know what the aftermaths are...)+ low social-living-standarts + dumb making tv programms/internetz(sry but in my opinion you should not enter the internet until you are at least!!!!! 12... and then only with a blacklist running..) + dumb education system = dumb childreen = failing at school = dumb country.

Same here in germany,too. *waves*

Instead flaming Mr. Obama which IS!!!!! (And the world really celebrated Bushs resign!) without a doubt smart you should be thankfuel that at least he try to change something at the education systems... (I mean do you remember the epic fail rule that in some american states (correct me if I'm wrong) the physical education was canceled for more maths and english because the childreen were so dumb? Be thankfull it's not such kind of a rule!)
I didn't called ALL the aspects why america / germany is in this situation about education system and I don't know every single aspect but there are so many basic things which must be changed.. and it would take years!!! decades! centurys!!! or maybe a millenium to change it if the things are going on like this ...
and such fast blindfold (from the experts which advised obama to consider about such a new order) rules like this one, wont change anything...
But I agree that the vacations should be shortened to at least 6 weeks..
The 4 other weeks can be used somewhere else, where there are reasonable!
but as mentioned earlier.
"slow and steady will win the race."

The prosecution rests...

(If my English wont be that bad, I could explain myself better...)
edit:(i just realize now how much spelling errors i did, my apologize about that, but large wall of text is large...)

Author:  Coffee Prosecutor [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Obama wanting to add 3 more hours to school days.

Daniel Fairhammer wrote:
In Sowjet Russia, child teach you!


WATCH OUT, WALL OF TEXT!


Ok that was the starting spam now lets get serious.

At first:
I'm sorry to say that but a lot of people here has really NO clue what politics are!
I even couldn't read everything because it was filled with:
-Spam
-Random Jibberish (Sry, pal! I didn't mean the user :D )
-Smattering knowledge
-And personal offensive against each other...

But as many people said it right:
Obama didn't shoot from a blue and neither there was a talk of 11 hours per day.

About beeing German:
-All your nazi-flames are belong to us.(And I'm originally from Poland, but this doesn't matter for the most *rolleyes* )
-We had the same problems like you about education and school
- Ecuse my not sooooo good english!

Now to that what I want to tell you:

Just to say "OLOLOLOL MAKE QUALITY OF SCHOLL BETTER!!!1111 GIEV GIF!!!" is not the way it will be better.
As somebody already said "slow and steady will win the race."
In addition, every state should continue handling education and school for there own just with an improved general framework.(like there was the example that you don't need the master of educatin in a state to teach... don't hit me if its wrong, I'm not familiar with U.S. education law.).
The social standard should be raised.
To raise it, the most american can start with not discriminating not-white-people.
Yes, there is plenty enough racism in America which is redundant...
(I see the nazi-flames comming!)
90% of all shows at television shown in Germany are rubbish and make people stupid. The ideas for this stupid shows are comming from america...
(And they're running in america as well).
I don't have something against every sitcom (I mean Scrubs, King of Queens, Doctor Hous... quite amusing shows, rally I like 'em) or other shows, but the most are stupid and make people stupid.
"Stupid show makes stupid" .- End quote
In addition, (And thats where I give Michael Moore right about it) the american news are full of natural disasters, plagues, war, and other things which has to fear people. (I don't know If you've seen "Stuid White Men" but some arguments and facts of M.M (not the candy -_-) are facts which I can aprove!You may say OLOLOLOL ITS SO OLD OLOL ITS NOT UP-TO-DATE. I say, it IS up-to-date.)
Cause the most people are whaching TV there are two things here which prevent people to get smart. (Not the main reasons but there are TWO of a lot).
Racism as I mentioned before.
And I think I don't had to explain why it is bad for higher-standart.
If it IS!!! intended that the people shouldn't get smart and encourage people getting dumb is , is an other question (which I won't discuss here or elsewhere at the internetz).
Another aspekt is the social one.
Look at the education of the childreen nowerdays (In U.S and germany).
I mean, there are so many people in the whole world which shouldn't have childreen. Childreen with an unproper education ends in the most cases as a dumb donkey.
In addition, a lot of childreen are living in social weeker occurrences which makes hard to get a higher basic knowledge...

And here we link a connection now, look it's easy.

Dumb parents which are totally overstrained with their childreen + fastidious childreen(I hope you all know what the aftermaths are...)+ low social-living-standarts + dumb making tv programms/internetz(sry but in my opinion you should not enter the internet until you are at least!!!!! 12... and then only with a blacklist running..) + dumb education system = dumb childreen = failing at school = dumb country.

Same here in germany,too. *waves*

Instead flaming Mr. Obama which IS!!!!! (And the world really celebrated Bushs resign!) without a doubt smart you should be thankfuel that at least he try to change something at the education systems... (I mean do you remember the epic fail rule that in some american states (correct me if I'm wrong) the physical education was canceled for more maths and english because the childreen were so dumb? Be thankfull it's not such kind of a rule!)
I didn't called ALL the aspects why america / germany is in this situation about education system and I don't know every single aspect but there are so many basic things which must be changed.. and it would take years!!! decades! centurys!!! or maybe a millenium to change it if the things are going on like this ...
and such fast blindfold (from the experts which advised obama to consider about such a new order) rules like this one, wont change anything...
But I agree that the vacations should be shortened to at least 6 weeks..
The 4 other weeks can be used somewhere else, where there are reasonable!
but as mentioned earlier.
"slow and steady will win the race."

The prosecution rests...

(If my English wont be that bad, I could explain myself better...)

O_O

Author:  Proxy [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:29 pm ]
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tl;dr Oh, and Coffee Prosecutor.
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