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If it weren't for my cat, I'd have committed suicide by now.
That's pretty sad.
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Yaragorm wrote:
If it weren't for my cat, I'd have committed suicide by now.
That's pretty sad.
Agreed.
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Exterminators kill mice. And people can comfort other people. Guess we don't need cats. We produce much more harmful gases than cows do, so maybe we should just wipe ourselves out? By your logic, it's the only way.
THIS.
My sister's a vegetarian, though it's not entirely because she wants to stop eating meat or eat healthier(she eats junk food all the time). She just uses it as an excuse to get attention as well as an excuse for not eating dinner with us (if you know what I mean...).
I'm trying not to eat meat too much in my diet because it can be bad for you in the long run. I can live without eating beef and steak(unless it's in a Chipotle burrito XD) but I still like eating chicken. I'm also trying my best to stop eating pork, especially ham.
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Yaragorm wrote:
They also force the schools to make an excess of vegetarian food which they force upon the non-vegetarians.
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I'm not a vegetarian and I don't mind other people practicing it all that much but there's this one guy who won't shut up every time I eat something with the slightest trace of animal in it. Be it eggs, cheese, or even gummy bears, he relentlessly tries to convert me to veganism and it drives me nuts.
Sometimes I have to eat my food slowly just to scare him away...
Sometimes I have to eat my food slowly just to scare him away...
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Anyway, I like to think that humans are on the top of the food chain. And I assume that animals are killed a little more humanely in slaughterhouses rather than slowly being eaten alive/poisoned then digested alive/being ripped asunder etc.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Oh, and I apologize in advance if I offended anyone.
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Yaragorm wrote:
Then maybe we should start eating humans too... 
You are the worst person.
Also you post too much. Try shutting up every now and then, it'll do you good. Find something else to do with your time, seriously.
Anyway, I haven't eaten meat of any kind since I was old enough to express my distaste of it. It's partly that I don't personally like the idea of me eating an animal and partly that I've just never liked the taste of any sort of meat. However, I really consider myself to be unusual. Humans have always eaten meat. We're built for it. We're omnivores. Our bodies work best when we have a balance of different kinds of food.
I took a course about animals and their role in human history and learned a lot about how the relationships between us and our domesticates have changed and evolved over time. From what I learned, it seems to me that the whole vegan movement and animal rights movements are misguided. The issue is not with the eating of animals and using their products. Nothing could be more natural, more in line with the development of all species involved. People and animals have lived along side each other for tens of thousands of years, for the longest time in good balance with each other.
The problem I see is not with the eating of meat, but with the sheer quantity that it is done nowadays. People are accustomed to eating meat at nearly every meal, something that has not become common until the past century or so. And so this requires the production of meat to be ramped up as high as possible. This is where the mistreatment of animals comes in. The balance that was always struck before between the numbers of animals and numbers of humans eating them has been skewed drastically. And really that's where problems come in.
I could go on, but I don't really have a solution for this, and neither does anyone else. True there are movements of vegetarians or vegans trying to force their beliefs and behaviors onto others, but they are kidding themselves. People aren't going to give up eating meat, nor should they. If anything, it's the way the food industry as a whole, beyond just animals, that needs to be changed.
Please note I'm mostly talking about the phenomenon in the US, as that's what I'm most familiar with, though I know similar situations, on a smaller scale, exist around the world. If anyone is really interested in learning more about the food industry and the problems with the way we eat, I'd very strongly recommend The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan, as well as In Defense of Food (same author). I didn't find the second one as interesting, but the first is an absolutely fascinating study of the American food industry.
And that's all I really have to say on this for now.
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Regy Rusty wrote:
Yaragorm wrote:
Then maybe we should start eating humans too...
You are the worst person.
Also you post too much. Try shutting up every now and then, it'll do you good. Find something else to do with your time, seriously.
What do you suggest?
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Yaragorm wrote:
Regy Rusty wrote:
Yaragorm wrote:
Then maybe we should start eating humans too...
You are the worst person.
Also you post too much. Try shutting up every now and then, it'll do you good. Find something else to do with your time, seriously.
What do you suggest?
Not post on CR for starters. Go read a book, go play video games, find a job, get a life. Stuff like that =D
And dont say you cant, just do so.
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neoswordmaster wrote:
I've considered going vegetarian, but I don't like many fruits (and only a number of veggies).
You...DO realize we eat things OTHER than fruits and vegetables, right?
And from what I understand, animals in slaughterhouses are treated horribly...though I'm not sure if that's still true.
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Anna Cassidy wrote:
neoswordmaster wrote:
I've considered going vegetarian, but I don't like many fruits (and only a number of veggies).
And from what I understand, animals in slaughterhouses are treated horribly...though I'm not sure if that's still true.
It is.
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Some animals are treated very well before being slaughtered, though I don't know how common that is these days now that factory farms have become common. Part of me is considering boycotting restaurants that get their meat from factory farms, though the issue would be finding out which restaurants do so--not to mention there are some places that I like too much to be able to believe beyond all doubt that I could successfully boycott them.
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^ Yeah, I prefer eating free range animals as opposed to factory farms. I mean, yeah I do eat meat that's not free range, but I always feel kinda guilty and bad for the animals. That's why I'm glad Chipotle has free range meat, which is a major plus because it's my favorite place to eat
"Free range" means that they were outside for a few hours in their life, usually in a crammed pen.
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silentxfilmstar wrote:
^ Yeah, I prefer eating free range animals as opposed to factory farms. I mean, yeah I do eat meat that's not free range, but I always feel kinda guilty and bad for the animals. That's why I'm glad Chipotle has free range meat, which is a major plus because it's my favorite place to eat
"Free range" means that they were outside for a few hours in their life, usually in a crammed pen.
Ahhh, thanks for clearing that up.
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I feel like I have no excuse not to practice vegetarianism, because I really enjoy the taste of vegetables. Besides that, I'm bad at cooking, so a salad made by me would be way more delicious than a dry chicken breast, for example.
It's really just a matter of me adapting to a new lifestyle. I buy most of my own groceries, so I'm gonna try adapting to soy milk. I don't like soy milk, so it'll be an acquired taste, but the idea of cow pus disgusts me. I don't really trust the dairy or meat industries.
I couldn't give up fish, though. I love my sardines and sushi way too much.
Also, why is everyone picking on Yaragorm? He's not doing anything wrong.
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That said, the meat industry is a terrible strain on the world in general (a huge amount of energy goes in it and gets barely any worth back at all), and vegetarianism is a really good lifestyle.
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loobywright wrote:
Everyone here has to try chocolate flavour Oat Milk <3
Oat milk? I never heard of that before.
Now, I've tried rice milk before, and I liked it a lot better than soy milk. On the other hand, I'm certain that soy milk is more nutritious. I'm interested in the most nutritious milk, hopefully with a low sugar content. Cow milk has like, 11 grams of sugar per serving! What's the point of me buying healthy cereal if the milk has so much sugar in it?!
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I like rice milk too but after a while it tastes like baby milk..
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loobywright wrote:
Everyone here has to try chocolate flavour Oat Milk <3
Chocolate Almond Milk is the most delicious thing on the face of the planet.
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soy and tofou is so incredibly disgusting
you do realize that we eat other things, i presume
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Also, The Omnivore's Dilemma is uhmeyzing. It was really enjoyable and quite revealing. The author also co-produced the movie Food Inc. with Eric Schlosser, which was also uhmeyzing. I recommend both of them for omnivores and herbivores alike.
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On the topic of meatless meat, Boca and Morning Star are great, although Morning Star tends to have less vegan products.
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Seriously though, I've never understood vegetarians and vegans myself. I can understand not wanting to eat meat because it kills animals, but health wise, it's very unhealthy. Meat has many nutrients that we as humans need to maintain a healthy lifestyle and these veggies and fake meat products aren't going to provide the essentials that meat will give you.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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Seriously though, I've never understood vegetarians and vegans myself. I can understand not wanting to eat meat because it kills animals, but health wise, it's very unhealthy. Meat has many nutrients that we as humans need to maintain a healthy lifestyle and these veggies and fake meat products aren't going to provide the essentials that meat will give you.
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neoswordmaster wrote:
dullahan1 wrote:
Seriously though, I've never understood vegetarians and vegans myself. I can understand not wanting to eat meat because it kills animals, but health wise, it's very unhealthy. Meat has many nutrients that we as humans need to maintain a healthy lifestyle and these veggies and fake meat products aren't going to provide the essentials that meat will give you.
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The only nutrient you can't get on a vegan diet is B12, which you can take vitamin supplements for.
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Tinker wrote:
soy and tofou is so incredibly disgusting
OBJECTION! Soy and tofu are some of the most delicious foods ever! I may not be partial to soy milk, but tofu in miso soup is very yummy.
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Anna Cassidy wrote:
Tinker wrote:
soy and tofou is so incredibly disgusting
you do realize that we eat other things, i presume
I know that. It was kind of on topic of soy milk. It's just that these are the things that "HEY LOOK VEGETARIANS CAN EAT THIS INSTEAD OF MEAT" and instead make it sound pretty horrible.
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I had a fried tofu meal from my local Chinese restaurant, and it was pretty good. I've also had it in enchiladas, along with soy cheese.
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L_J wrote:
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Dairy farming is really harmful to the environment, so actually vegan's have a good point.
How is it harmful to the environment?
cows fart methane
They actually burp it but yeah, cows produce alot of methane and because we use so many, especially for dairy farming, we're destroying the environment.
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My favourite ways to have are either from Chinese takeaway in Sweet and Sour sauce, or in a wrap with houmous and salad mmmmmm
Catgrenade wrote:
Chocolate Almond Milk is the most delicious thing on the face of the planet.
Never heard of it but it sounds nice.
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It's a shame that it's so much more expensive to eat healthy than to eat junk food.
Yeah this gets on my fucking tits. I can only afford to eat healthy for the first half of the month >.<
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Tinker wrote:
Anna Cassidy wrote:
Tinker wrote:
soy and tofou is so incredibly disgusting
you do realize that we eat other things, i presume
I know that. It was kind of on topic of soy milk. It's just that these are the things that "HEY LOOK VEGETARIANS CAN EAT THIS INSTEAD OF MEAT" and instead make it sound pretty horrible.
Actually, there are really good meat substitutes out there. Y'know, that actually taste somewhat like meat.
Tofu on its own is disgustingly bland, but it can be nice when it's in things. Soy milk...well, it's alright on cereal. I detest drinking it on its own, but then again, I detest regular milk, too--perhaps even more so.
Chocolate soy milk is delicious, though.
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And a lot of it tastes good by itself. You just slice it and eat it, maybe with a bit of soy sauce or sesame.
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Soy milk is grody, but I do like vanilla soy with cheerios :D I also wanna try chocolate soy milk. Is it any good??
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