You guys are no fun. Mermaids probably are real in some form...
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| Author: | Cal Santiago [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cryptozoology |
Since I was bored and I just came across this video, I thought about cryptozoology for a sec. For those who don't know what cryptozoology is the study of imaginary creatures: the study of imaginary creatures or fabled creatures such as the Loch Ness monster or the yeti (from the Greek words "kruptos" or "kruptein", meaning "to hide"). I've always found the subject interesting, even if I don't fully believe in the existence of cryptid animals, thanks to shows like Nat Geo's "Is It Real". Just thought it could make for some interesting discussion. You can state whether you believe in them or not whichever way you want-- full-out paragraphs or a simple sentence that says "It's bullshit". Whichever you prefer. So post away. I hope this topic is allowed here, BTW. I used the search button and no results on this popped up. So yeah. |
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| Author: | Tinker [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
"It's bullshit" |
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| Author: | Cal Santiago [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
Tinker wrote: "It's bullshit" Knew that would end up as the first post, haha. Course, a lot of supposed cryptids are obvious fakes so I can see why people hate the subject. XD |
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| Author: | KrazyKaro [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
LightningfistCal wrote: Tinker wrote: "It's bullshit" Knew that would end up as the first post, haha. Course, a lot of supposed cryptids are obvious fakes so I can see why people hate the subject. XD I agree with the first post. Although i like reading some of the stories and ( for some) the myths around them. I really would like to know where people get the ideas from. I love myths and legends but i like them as story's i don't belive in the real thing. My sister does. She loves reading about UFO sightings or Bigfoot/yeti / lochness. She even went to scotland with a trip about it. She's a nerd. |
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| Author: | Cal Santiago [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
KrazyKaro wrote: around them. I really would like to know where people get the ideas from. It's rooted mostly in culture, folklore, and essentially the human curiosity. Subconsciously, people always try to look for something "mysterious" or "unexplainable", possibly as a scapegoat for the supposed tediousness of normal living. Cryptids satisfy this human need for a "paranormal" or "supernatural" scapegoat; take for instance the case of the "Chupacabra"-- when people's livestock were suddenly dying in mass numbers, they thought up of a fantasy creature to blame their problems on instead of blaming themselves for not taking care of their animals properly. That's why this topic interests me; I'm not so much in favor of the idea that fantasy creatures exist somewhere, but really more on the psychology behind it all. |
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| Author: | Miemoko [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
Bwahaha... I don't know what to say o-O.... Cryptozoology interests me.... I mean- mythical creatures can be real but they could also be, well- myths... xD Again- i don't know what to say |
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| Author: | The Sandwich [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
There's a movie coming out involving cryptozoology actually. It's called 'Hyenas'. |
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| Author: | Catgrenade [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
The subject really interests me, although I haven't really ever thought about it deeply enough to make an opinion. |
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| Author: | antonis [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
Greek mythology is pretty interesting I suppose but the shit that people believed in over here is unbelievable things such as fairy forts and the like. You know people used to think you could heal diseases if you ran around them a couple of times. |
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| Author: | Cal Santiago [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
The Sandwich wrote: There's a movie coming out involving cryptozoology actually. It's called 'Hyenas'. I can't even tell if that's sarcasm or not. :/ antonis wrote: Greek mythology is pretty interesting I suppose but the shit that people believed in over here is unbelievable things such as fairy forts and the like. You know people used to think you could heal diseases if you ran around them a couple of times. Actually, this thread's not about Greek mythology. It's about "cryptids" or creatures that most likely do not exist, yet people believe in them for some reason-- most likely to basically satisfy human curiosity as well as the need for a paranormal or supernatural "escape" so to speak, from their normal lives. |
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| Author: | Yaragorm [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
I just believe they're all real just in case. |
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| Author: | Femme Fatale [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
It's bullshit. I have a friend who insistantly believes that mermaids are real and it annoys me to no end. |
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| Author: | Yaragorm [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
You guys are no fun. Mermaids probably are real in some form...
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| Author: | antonis [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
LightningfistCal wrote: antonis wrote: Greek mythology is pretty interesting I suppose but the shit that people believed in over here is unbelievable things such as fairy forts and the like. You know people used to think you could heal diseases if you ran around them a couple of times. Actually, this thread's not about Greek mythology. It's about "cryptids" or creatures that most likely do not exist, yet people believe in them for some reason-- most likely to basically satisfy human curiosity as well as the need for a paranormal or supernatural "escape" so to speak, from their normal lives. No I was reffering to the creatures in Greek Mythology like the minotaur and all that stuff. Yaragorm wrote: You guys are no fun. Mermaids probably are real in some form... Find us one and we'll believe you. |
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| Author: | Miemoko [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
Who here thinks the Lochness Monster is real o-o? There has been some sightings and it is said that it might be because the Lochness monster is a type of Dinosaur... ( i think... forgot all the facts) But if it is a type of dinosaur then... it's not cryptozoology xD |
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| Author: | Yaragorm [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
GCMiekoV wrote: Who here thinks the Lochness Monster is real o-o? There has been some sightings and it is said that it might be because the Lochness monster is a type of Dinosaur... ( i think... forgot all the facts) But if it is a type of dinosaur then... it's not cryptozoology xD I think the Loch Ness Monster is actually a horse thing called the Kelpie. I heard how those horses can transform into sea serpents and like to drown people in the ocean. antonis wrote: Yaragorm wrote: You guys are no fun. Mermaids probably are real in some form... Find us one and we'll believe you. Well if I could find it, then somebody else would've by now. They're probably just really good at hiding. |
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| Author: | Louise [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
Femme Fatale wrote: It's bullshit. I have a friend who insistantly believes that mermaids are real and it annoys me to no end. You mean.... they're not real?  Why you kill my dreams |
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| Author: | Yaragorm [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
I believe in fairies, how else did my wishes come true when I saw that ring of mushrooms? |
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| Author: | SD-Rim_6 [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
I believe in the existence of the Kraken. We don't know much about the ocean and they did find a squid eye as big as a small fishing boat. Other than that I think if mythical creatures did exist they would be extinct due to the rapid expansion of mankind into the natural world. |
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| Author: | Jynxe [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
I viewed the video you posted and a vast majority of those could just be considered cross-breeds or a simple case of malformation. We've seen it in humans plenty of times, so there's no reason why we shouldn't see it in animals as well. As for the UFO's, I believe in aliens, but I don't believe that it would be possible for them to make it to us without them leaving a single trace. Plus, I saw something on the history channel the other day about UFO's being military experiments though I only saw a bit of it. A co-worker of mine told me the same thing when I told him that my brother said he saw a UFO on his way home. Seeing as how there's an airbase nearby, it's actually probable. Despite all of this, I do enjoy the mystery behind the UFO (alien or military). With fabled creatures, I believe in them to a certain extent. From what I know, absolutely anything is possible; After all, we make new discoveries all the time. However, I'm sure that all of the stories about these creatures were embellished in some way shape or form. For example, dragons, they're obviously reptilian-like and there were very bizarre dinosaurs, but I highly doubt that they blew out fire, were large enough for humans to ride, and if they were, they probably weren't able to tame them (it would be like taming a t-rex). As for mermaids, they're also possible, but they most likely look more like a fish than a human and aren't as gorgeous as how they are depicted since they probably live closer to the bottom of the ocean (seeing as how they haven't been discovered). By the way, that albino lion in the video was beautiful 
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| Author: | Femme Fatale [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
loobywright wrote: I wonder for how many people that joke went over their heads. hint Hetalia I love reading Greek mythology but all of that other stuff is too tiring what with people actually believing it. |
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| Author: | Ultimate Prosecutor [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
These intrigue me. I like the idea of a Plesiosaur romping around in Loch Ness. It's bullshit of course, just like Derek Acorah trying to channel Michael Jackson, but I like the idea. Of the Loch Ness monster that it. Not Derek Acorah. That disgusted me. The one I want to see is world renowned Surrey Puma. No? Anyone heard of it? Oh.... Either way, I bet 10 bucks TSS is behind this. |
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| Author: | dullahan1 [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
Tinker wrote: "It's bullshit" I believe you exist. |
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| Author: | Cal Santiago [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
SD-Rim_6 wrote: I believe in the existence of the Kraken. We don't know much about the ocean and they did find a squid eye as big as a small fishing boat. Other than that I think if mythical creatures did exist they would be extinct due to the rapid expansion of mankind into the natural world. The "Kraken" was recently confirmed to be real. It's a much bigger species of Giant Squid, known as "Colossal Squid"-- apparently this species lives in much much deeper areas than normal giant squids; are rounder; have bigger eyes; and lack suckers on their tentacles however they do have thousands of rotary hooks on them in place. Only one specimen (female juvenile, around 30 feet long) was ever found intact, though, and now it's full of formalin and sitting in a museum somewhere. Go to Discovery Channel if you don't believe me. Yaragorm wrote: I just believe they're all real just in case. Eh? Even the shitty obvious fakes like "Feejee Mermaid", "Jackalope" and "Jersey Devil"? Femme Fatale wrote: I have a friend who insistantly believes that mermaids are real and it annoys me to no end. Yeah, I can understand that. Mermaids are probably one of the most overrated cryptids out there, sitting on top with Nessie and Bigfoot. I myself don't believe in them, Oh, and only Mike Mignola can make mermaids cool in my eyes. Yaragorm wrote: GCMiekoV wrote: Who here thinks the Lochness Monster is real o-o? There has been some sightings and it is said that it might be because the Lochness monster is a type of Dinosaur... ( i think... forgot all the facts) But if it is a type of dinosaur then... it's not cryptozoology xD I think the Loch Ness Monster is actually a horse thing called the Kelpie. I heard how those horses can transform into sea serpents and like to drown people in the ocean. Dude, isn't that from a movie? "The Water Horse"? Ultimate Prosecutor wrote: just like Derek Acorah trying to channel Michael Jackson O__o |
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| Author: | Yaragorm [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
Jynxe wrote: As for the UFO's, I believe in aliens, but I don't believe that it would be possible for them to make it to us without them leaving a single trace. Plus, I saw something on the history channel the other day about UFO's being military experiments though I only saw a bit of it. A co-worker of mine told me the same thing when I told him that my brother said he saw a UFO on his way home. Seeing as how there's an airbase nearby, it's actually probable. Despite all of this, I do enjoy the mystery behind the UFO (alien or military). UFOs? Yeah I believe in those. There was a lockdown at my school recently because of an alien abduction, which is the most prominent rumor. I once saw on the History Channel that 'god' is actually a bunch of aliens who guided humans toward civilization. Makes for an interesting theory and explains a lot... LightningfistCal wrote: Yaragorm wrote: I just believe they're all real just in case. Eh? Even the shitty obvious fakes like "Feejee Mermaid", "Jackalope" and "Jersey Devil"? I've never heard of those.  LightningfistCal wrote: Yaragorm wrote: GCMiekoV wrote: Who here thinks the Lochness Monster is real o-o? There has been some sightings and it is said that it might be because the Lochness monster is a type of Dinosaur... ( i think... forgot all the facts) But if it is a type of dinosaur then... it's not cryptozoology xD I think the Loch Ness Monster is actually a horse thing called the Kelpie. I heard how those horses can transform into sea serpents and like to drown people in the ocean. Dude, isn't that from a movie? "The Water Horse"? Oh you're right. Then I guess it MUST be real. |
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| Author: | Cal Santiago [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
It was a CGI fairytale. |
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| Author: | Yaragorm [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
Didn't they say it was based on true events? Or was that Paranormal Activity?... |
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| Author: | Cal Santiago [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
I think that was Paranormal Activity. Which apparently is gonna have a sequel. "Paranormaler Activity"? |
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| Author: | Ultimate Prosecutor [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
Biologically speaking, humanimal hybrids are just as likely (or unlikely) as animal-animal hybrid. We are animals after all. All that determines compatibility is the number of chromosomes and because of that a cat can no more breed with a horse than a horse can with a human. I'd still love some evolutionary oddities roaming around. |
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| Author: | Umbongo [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
I would know. After all, I am one. 
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| Author: | Darling Dream [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
^ ^ ^ No, Paranormal Activity wasn't based on a true story. The director had a few "paranormal experiences" apparently and so made a movie based on those, but that's as far as it goes. |
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| Author: | Ultimate Prosecutor [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
Right, I'm making a ghost topic. |
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| Author: | The Sandwich [ Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
LightningfistCal wrote: The Sandwich wrote: There's a movie coming out involving cryptozoology actually. It's called 'Hyenas'. I can't even tell if that's sarcasm or not. :/ Deadly serious. Google it. |
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| Author: | Cal Santiago [ Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
The Sandwich wrote: Google it. I did. From the looks of the trailer and the site, I'd assume it's gonna be a shitty B-movie. But I could be wrong. Unless it's meant to be so bad, it's good. |
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| Author: | SD-Rim_6 [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
I also believe in the existence of other intelligent life forms in our universe. The universe is to big for us to be the only intelligent species. As for them actually making contact with us I'm not as sure. Call me skeptical but I don't see a galaxy hoping super advanced civilization actually being interested in us. To them they may only look and laugh at how advanced we are. Either that or they are less advanced than us and don't have space travel, or are exactly like us and can't seem to reach us |
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| Author: | silentxfilmstar [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
I think there's a slight possibility that some of that stuff could be true, but it's nothing that really interests me. My mom and my sister believe in ghosts, my dad believes in aliens, my oldest sister believes in fairies, and I just don't know. |
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| Author: | Ultimate Prosecutor [ Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
To think we are alone in the universe is madness. It's friggin huge. However unless we develop teleportation, we're never gonna see them, and vice versa. Here's why. We would know of any nearby already from radio waves etc. We haven't received any of these, and I assume they haven't received our radio boradcasts either (any aliens seeing Barney the Dinosaur would invade immediately!) We must then assume that the aliens are over 100 lightyears away. To put it plainly, even at light speed, it would take 100 years to get there. Our Galaxy is 100,000 lightyears across, it would take 100,000 years at lightspeed to travel across it. Ya see? It all takes too long to get anywhere. This is why there are no such things as Alien sightings and ET UFOs. Because they wouldn't get here in a reasonable time. 100,000 years is an awful long time. We were still pre-neanderthal. By the time we got anywhere in space at that speed, we'd either be long extinct or very different. So unless you get all SciFi about it with wormhole control, warping and teleportation, it aint gonna happen. Even Lightspeed is impossible for anything with mass. E=MC² Energy = Mass x Speed of Light² the speed of light is a constant, so Energy is directly proportional to Mass, The faster you go (energy) the more massive you become. And because Force = Mass x Acceleration, an infinitely increasing mass would require an infinitely increasing force in order to keep accelerating at a constant rate. Um, it's simpler than it sounds. We can't even go lightspeed. We will never know if aliens exist for sure. |
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| Author: | Cal Santiago [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
SD-Rim_6 wrote: I also believe in the existence of other intelligent life forms in our universe. The universe is to big for us to be the only intelligent species. As for them actually making contact with us I'm not as sure. Call me skeptical but I don't see a galaxy hoping super advanced civilization actually being interested in us. To them they may only look and laugh at how advanced we are. Either that or they are less advanced than us and don't have space travel, or are exactly like us and can't seem to reach us  The universe is a big place. That's the largest thing in the universe. OK, seriously now. Yeah, it's plausible that there are other sentient creatures in the universe other than us. It's the fact that humans are so big-headed and proud of being "the smartest creatures in the solar system", that most of us think the existence of aliens is rubbish and limited to science fiction or children's cartoons. But Ultimate Prosecutor is right-- even if there are such things as aliens, there's just no way for humans to make contact with them. Hell, I doubt they'd even give a damn about the Milky Way, let alone Earth. ... But I wouldn't mind it if a ship carrying an alien watch crashed near my house and the watch attaches itself to my arm. XP |
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| Author: | Tinker [ Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
interested? interest isn't a problem, technology is |
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| Author: | AoN [ Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cryptozoology |
I don't actually believe in cryptids and the like, but it's interesting how creative people are in inventing creatures and myths to explain nature. I'm actually pretty interested in Filipino folklore and cryptids like the Tikbalang (head of a horse, body of a man) and the Mananangal (a woman that has only half a body and batwings). I don't believe they actually exist though, but they're good to scare busmates while heading home at night, when they demand for scary stories. |
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