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Do you think psychopaths are bad people?

I'm still considering how to word my answer, so I'll let you guys share your opinion first.
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No, not all of them. I read a book recently called 'The Psychopath Test'. The checklist for being a psychopath is pretty bad, but I think it just means the person isn't NICE not BAD. Obviously if they indulge in their wants, and their characteristics lead them to commit crimes, they are a bad person.
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Dare I ask what Psychological status a person would have to be to be bad, if not a psychopath? I get sick quick of how ambiguous and politically correct we are as a people some times.

My point is. Yes they are, and intervention MUST happen, be it medical intervention, sessions with a shrink, enforced isolation, or some other tactic. To ignore would be grossly irresponsible. Being bad is not exclusive of redemption mind you, but it should not be tolerated.
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'bad' is an ambiguity based on ethics and morals

a 'psychopath', by definition, lacks the morals our society promotes

you should do some homework before bringing a philosophical debate to a video game forum
remember remember the fifth of november the gunpowder treason and plot
i know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot
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fawkes wrote:
'bad' is an ambiguity based on ethics and morals

a 'psychopath', by definition, lacks the morals our society promotes

you should do some homework before bringing a philosophical debate to a video game forum



If everyone knew everything about any given topic then there would be no need to discuss it would there?
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if everyone had near-instantaneous access to vast supplies of information, one would think they'd take advantage of that opportunity

there really is no need to discuss this
remember remember the fifth of november the gunpowder treason and plot
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A topic you dislike is no grounds for it to not be discussed.
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DoMaya wrote:
A topic you dislike is no grounds for it to not be discussed.

Couldn't have said it better.
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Psychopathy is a form of personality disorder with a variety of elements that make them prone to criminal or dangerous behaviours.
They have an arrogant and deceitful interpersonal style which makes them very dominant and forceful in their interactions with other people and they have deficient affective experience which means they don't experience emotions properly the same way we do, like they don't understand attachment or hate or things like that and they have an impulsive and irresponsible behavioural style with callous random actions without a thought to the consequences.

The fact they don't care bout others, look out for number one and aren't afraid of consequences does mean they are problematic.

Granted I've not had my full lecture on Psychopathy yet but the lecturer that is going to give it gave us that little teaser in an earlier one.
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Let's make sure we're all talking about the same thing before we continue this conversation.

I have a funny feeling most people in this topic are referring to the stereotypical "batshit insane axe murderer" character type rather than actual psychopathy, which is a component of that personality as opposed to the whole thing.

This all said then: no, necessarily bad =/= psychopath and psychopath =/= bad, but you'd be very hard pressed to find a good one.
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fawkes wrote:
if everyone had near-instantaneous access to vast supplies of information, one would think they'd take advantage of that opportunity

there really is no need to discuss this


Oh, look who's back. At any rate, this forum is a vast supply of information and a forum is for discussion. I don't believe that being a psychopath makes you a bad person, but you can become a bad person because of it.
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Let's make sure we're all talking about the same thing before we continue this conversation.

I have a funny feeling most people in this topic are referring to the stereotypical "batshit insane axe murderer" character type rather than actual psychopathy, which is a component of that personality as opposed to the whole thing.

This all said then: no, necessarily bad =/= psychopath and psychopath =/= bad, but you'd be very hard pressed to find a good one.


Mmmhmm it's more the combination of symptoms caused by psychopathy make it VERY easy to do bad things...and they wouldn't even see it that way.
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DoMaya wrote:
A topic you dislike is no grounds for it to not be discussed.

hey. woah. who said i 'dislike the topic'.

you don't only need a definition of 'psychopath'. you need a definition of 'bad'. if you're saying bad is 'defective, or of inferior quality', then you could call cancer patients bad.

if you're saying bad is 'morally reprehensible', then a person who disregards all moral standards is, by definition, 'bad'.

in any case my answer was better than the shit you posted.
remember remember the fifth of november the gunpowder treason and plot
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Actually, the statistic is that 1 in 25 people is a psycho/sociopath meaning that they do not have a conscience. Most psychopaths are very charismatic and know how to get what they want. They use others to benefit themselves.

Trust me...I know what I'm talking about...
Just..don't ask why. But for the record, I'm no psychopath.
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A psychopathic person is more likely to do bad things because they lack any sense of empathy or ability to comprehend the emotions of others which would stop them. Personally I don't consider that displaying psychopathic traits necessarily makes someone a bad person, they could simply be very unpleasant to be around. Of course if those tendencies lead them to commit crimes, as they do for so many psychopaths, then it's a different matter~
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fawkes wrote:
DoMaya wrote:
A topic you dislike is no grounds for it to not be discussed.

hey. woah. who said i 'dislike the topic'.

you don't only need a definition of 'psychopath'. you need a definition of 'bad'. if you're saying bad is 'defective, or of inferior quality', then you could call cancer patients bad.

if you're saying bad is 'morally reprehensible', then a person who disregards all moral standards is, by definition, 'bad'.

in any case my answer was better than the shit you posted.



Now you're just beating around the bush, were not here to look smart by trying to correct other people, we're here to have a logical discussion.

Also, learn to capitalize your shit. I feel like I'm talking to a fifth grader.

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A psychopath is someone who in one way or another feels that they're the only one that matters, and if they could do something bad for profit without getting caught they'd do it.

The vast majority of them don't act according to their urges due to repercussions that they would suffer, not because it's "wrong"

Then again, who's to say most of us wouldn't do that?
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DoMaya wrote:
Now you're just beating around the bush

i don't think you know what that phrase means.

why don't you look it up, and tell me exactly how it applies in this situation.

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Also, learn to capitalize your shit. I feel like I'm talking to a fifth grader.

deal with it, chode.
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The vast majority of them don't act according to their urges due to repercussions that they would suffer, not because it's "wrong"


Actually they still suffer from compulsive irrational behaviour because they don't care about consequences so much. A good few do end up in jail.
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Do you think psychopaths are bad people?

I'm still considering how to word my answer, so I'll let you guys share your opinion first.

no offense or anything but the question is dumb

there are no 'bad' people,humans are naturally meant to be what you migth consider evil as a necessary means of survival
being good simply doesn't cut it and I dont want to be a chauvinist or disregard women or anything,but thats also the reason why assholish behavior is hard to get rid of since women are supposed(im not saying they all are, again) to get extra attracted by these bad character values, just because nature wants to preserve them for future generation
again, im not saying durrhurr all women liek bad boys, most certainly not, there's the pregnancy pill which messes up everything too, and of course not all women are that shallow, so please dont burn me at the stake 'kay

the whole concept of 'good',I believe, started when one caveman had more food than the other and decided to share for some reason; be it because he understood the greater efficiency of hunting in packs,basically good and morals spread with the raise of organized society,so yes, its not society corrupts us, is the lack of moral within a society which doesnt withhold the natural evil in humans so to say
i prolly didn't word that right
any naturally selfless person / saint may have actually been considered a disorder(if such people exist that is)

and a psychopath is a person who has more difficulty accepting these naturally unnatural values,or because he more enjoys the thought of killing due to hampered esmotional development
anyway,it is wrong to convict such people just because they may do something, or have society openly shun them,because it will do nothing but plunge them faster in whatever crimes they may eventually commit
they may need more intensive care mby, I'm no expert rreally, just saying you know
also prison is a really shitty place,makes everything just worse (same for other institutionalized governments)
should such antisocial tendencies be noticed in children early on in example, it might be best to separate them if they cause too much trouble,it just doesn't work to have them mixed in,kind of like the treatment for the troublemakers, the corner kids in that one season of the Wire (4th I think),it has shown an interesting way how to solve these issues, even if it seemed slow and ineffective it did produce beliavable results

so yeah
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DoMaya wrote:
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DoMaya wrote:
A topic you dislike is no grounds for it to not be discussed.

hey. woah. who said i 'dislike the topic'.

you don't only need a definition of 'psychopath'. you need a definition of 'bad'. if you're saying bad is 'defective, or of inferior quality', then you could call cancer patients bad.

if you're saying bad is 'morally reprehensible', then a person who disregards all moral standards is, by definition, 'bad'.

in any case my answer was better than the shit you posted.



Now you're just beating around the bush, were not here to look smart by trying to correct other people, we're here to have a logical discussion.

Also, learn to capitalize your shit. I feel like I'm talking to a fifth grader.

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A psychopath is someone who in one way or another feels that they're the only one that matters, and if they could do something bad for profit without getting caught they'd do it.

The vast majority of them don't act according to their urges due to repercussions that they would suffer, not because it's "wrong"

Then again, who's to say most of us wouldn't do that?

I think you mistaken that with narcissit,or something like that, egoist - they think they're the only one who matter,so they're selfish pricks but they're no psychopaths automatically,sure they behave like asshols but being one isn't illegal, they don't automatically share the antisocial behavior, the hate or willingnes to commit crime or murder just for some irrational reason
sure some serial murders might be doing it because they have to prove themselves how superior they are(or for some sick fetish),but not all people how need to prove themselves being superior get the idea to murder people
and ppl who do something bad for profit without getting caught, that would be like everyone in the professinal crime industry be it mafia, thieves whatever
heck even normal people may from time to time commit some (smaller scale) crime, like I dunno, but stealing a lolipop don't mean your a psycho either
like, Joker from Batman is a psychopath too,and neither of these fit, wouldn't you agree?
but again I'm not saying one is a psychopath only if hes like a comic book villain,it's most probably the lack of understanding/comprehension for good as I said earlier
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Psychopaths? Do they really have 'urges'? It's not like they get any pleasure from committing crimes. They can't feel emotions, after all.
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Psychopaths? Do they really have 'urges'? It's not like they get any pleasure from committing crimes. They can't feel emotions, after all.

well I dunno, but I guess they get something from doing it, I mean why'd they do it otherwise?
I bothered to check the wikipedia, read a few lines with very long words but from the few I could comprehend it was just as I expeted
more interestingly, it says 1% of america alone is made of psychopaths
considering that would be about 3 mil. ppl... could fill a small country with them
but I guess at least some of them are doing alright(that is,not murdering anyone)
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Also, learn to capitalize your shit. I feel like I'm talking to a fifth grader.

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Please keep this civil and on-topic, everyone. I don't want to lock this thread, but it's getting a bit close to being a spam dump.
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remember remember the fifth of november the gunpowder treason and plot
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I'll keep it short and sweet. The human race as a whole is pretty bad, so I'm going to say yes.
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I'll keep it short and sweet. The human race as a whole is pretty bad, so I'm going to say yes.


Oh and this.
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Do you think psychopaths are bad people?

I'm still considering how to word my answer, so I'll let you guys share your opinion first.

Any claim here rides on what you consider to be "bad". So, if you see this topic in black and white, with no grey area, they are bad people. It's basically just a matter of opinion. *has stated his opinion*
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I'll keep it short and sweet. The human race as a whole is pretty bad, so I'm going to say yes.


I'd disagree, but I do think this topic is due a locking.
Enough opinions have been said nothing really more to add.
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I'd disagree, but I do think this topic is due a locking.
Enough opinions have been said nothing really more to add.

There's always more to be said. Why would you lock it?


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I'll keep it short and sweet. The human race as a whole is pretty bad, so I'm going to say yes.

Can you elaborate actually because what
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Because we've heard many conflicting opinions and it's starting trouble now.
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Can you elaborate actually because what[/quote]

Why do I need to elaborate on something self-explanatory? The human race as a whole is bad, day by day it's getting worse, and since psychopaths are a part of this bad human race, they are bad as well. Check out the standard morals of the past and compare them to today. Humans have fallen so far with their so called "freedom", innocence is dead.
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I'll keep it short and sweet. The human race as a whole is pretty bad, so I'm going to say yes.

Can you elaborate actually because what


Why do I need to elaborate on something self-explanatory? The human race as a whole is bad, day by day it's getting worse, and since psychopaths are a part of this bad human race, they are bad as well. Check out the standard morals of the past and compare them to today. Humans have fallen so far with their so called "freedom", innocence is dead.[/quote]

Again I disagree.
Few would wish ill on a everyday stranger and how we treat those we are unbiased against is an example of how humans aren't completely gone yet. If humans were intrinsically bad they would wish harm on every person they meet.

However this is getting off topic.
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