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The rest of the cast is boring - Junpei is annoying. Yukari is both. That makes her worse. Also, according to that poll, Naoto is way too popular. Why the hell even, nothing is special about Naoto. Also, THAT PLOT TWIST WAS SO FREAKING OBVIOUS!

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Oh wow, I didn't realize Kanji was so unpopular in Japan. He's usually considered one of the better, if not THE best, character in the west for the most part, right?

Also, Catmuto, big-breasted and shy women are an instant success, don't you know that?
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Also, Catmuto, big-breasted and shy women are an instant success, don't you know that?


Naoto isn't shy. Just extremely uncomfortable in skirts - which I can totally agree with.

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Oh wow, I didn't realize Kanji was so unpopular in Japan. He's usually considered one of the better, if not THE best, character in the west for the most part, right?

Also, Catmuto, big-breasted and shy women are an instant success, don't you know that?


Kanji IS the best character.

I'm guessing it's cultural differences coming into play here, they like their simple prettyboy bishounen characters a lot more than we do.
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>yosuke at 2
>femc getting half the votes mc did
>kanji at the bottom of the list

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And I guess I just don't get the intense Yukari hate here; sure she has ass moments but at least half the rest of the cast is just as bad if not worse.


Just my guess for the first and last one. Who would the shippers rather see Yu with? Kanji or Brosuke? As for Fem MC, eh, I have nothing on that.
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Pierre wrote:
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Oh wow, I didn't realize Kanji was so unpopular in Japan. He's usually considered one of the better, if not THE best, character in the west for the most part, right?

Also, Catmuto, big-breasted and shy women are an instant success, don't you know that?


Kanji IS the best character.

I'm guessing it's cultural differences coming into play here, they like their simple prettyboy bishounen characters a lot more than we do.


Not only that.

1. Narukami, Yosuke and Chie are TOTAL CLASSIC type of character that you encounter in every manga/anime/Jap video games.


2. Naoto can be either seen as a classic anime character (you know the serious type) or seen as an strong independant women (by asian standard of course). And Cat the twist maybe wasn't that obvious when you take in account that her Jap voice actor often do male voice.


3. Aigis is a robot and pretty much explain it by herself (japs...)


4. Nanako is also pretty much self explanatory.


5. Maybe because he is a better blank with a some charisma? (You can insert jokes of I don't care-ism here.)


What surprise me most isn't the fact that Kanji is ranked very low (he can be seen as a baddly written character by mainstream manga standard) but that TETSUYA IS IN THE LIST?! Wow the only non P3-4 in the whole list.


By the way I'm a fan of Naoto and P3 MC (even if I don't like his official name) and really like the cast of P3. I find them more tolerable than those Tales of games (*cough cough* Symphonia)... In my opinion the character in P4 aren't better, but had more chance to develop and shine because the game design forced it a little.


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Shao-Mae wrote:
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Oh wow, I didn't realize Kanji was so unpopular in Japan. He's usually considered one of the better, if not THE best, character in the west for the most part, right?

Also, Catmuto, big-breasted and shy women are an instant success, don't you know that?


Kanji IS the best character.

I'm guessing it's cultural differences coming into play here, they like their simple prettyboy bishounen characters a lot more than we do.


Not only that.

1. Narukami, Yosuke and Chie are TOTAL CLASSIC type of character that you encounter in every manga/anime/Jap video games.


2. Naoto can be either seen as a classic anime character (you know the serious type) or seen as an strong independant women (by asian standard of course). And Cat the twist maybe wasn't that obvious when you take in account that her Jap voice actor often do male voice.


3. Aigis is a robot and pretty much explain it by herself (japs...)


4. Nanako is also pretty much self explanatory.


5. Maybe because he is a better blank with a some charisma? (You can insert jokes of I don't care-ism here.)


What surprise me most isn't the fact that Kanji is ranked very low (he can be seen as a baddly written character by mainstream manga standard) but that TETSUYA IS IN THE LIST?! Wow the only non P3-4 in the whole list.


By the way I'm a fan of Naoto and P3 MC (even if I don't like his official name) and really like the cast of P3. I find them more tolerable than those Tales of games (*cough cough* Symphonia)... In my opinion the character in P4 aren't better, but had more chance to develop and shine because the game design forced it a little.


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I kid of course, you've got a fair point. The way Persona 4 was written it was all about character development, it was essentially the draw of the game seeing people face their shadows. I for one knew about Kanji's shadow well in advance and that was the draw to see how they'd tackle issues like that. Compared to P3's plot where the nefarious Dr Kirijo summoned 12 deadly Shadow Masters and Megaman must defeat them nothing really happens at all with the characters. Most of the party in P3 didn't even have social links at first release and they were just added in later releases and even then with the weird angle of romance only. P4 was written with social links in mind and generally handled the development of them better giving you the character an actual hand in that development whereas most of the development in P3 occurs between other characters (Mitsuru and Yukari, Shinji and Akihiko, Chidori and Junpei, etc). So you get to see more of the development for the P4 cast just by the way it's brought about. I think it could be possible for the P3 characters to have more compelling stories if they were written to interact with the main character through their development in the game's design.

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And Cat the twist maybe wasn't that obvious when you take in account that her Jap voice actor often do male voice.


I know. I only played the Undubbed version of Persona 4, so I know Romi Park's voice for Naoto. And I'm still saying it was pretty obvious, even in the full-on Japanese version of the game that Naoto was not hiding a sausage in her pants.

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Eh, the only characters I don't like in Symphonia are Zelos, Lloyd and Collet. Well, I hate aspects of their personalities. The latter two because I think they're hypocrites (Collet thinks it's fine to sacrifice herself for the sake of others, but when somebody else tries to do it, suddenly it's a bad thing - and Lloyd kills things left and right while yelling about everyone's right to live) And Zelos I don't like cause... *shrug* he's just the other side of the must-be-inserted-pairing-idea of two people that supposedly love each other but act like they want to stab each other with a steak knife. (Then again I ship LloydxShihna) Although that's not the only reason I hate ZelosxShihna.

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Wouldn't know, gave P2 a couple tries and finally gave up after about five hours in because I got sick of running into random encounters every three steps.

Wasn't particularly impressed with what I saw, though. Eikichi and Lisa were better.
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Eikichi and Lisa were better.

Wrong Persona 2 :basil:
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Wouldn't know, gave P2 a couple tries and finally gave up after about five hours in because I got sick of running into random encounters every three steps.

Wasn't particularly impressed with what I saw, though. Eikichi and Lisa were better.


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Considering what happens, I think Maya is one of those that gets put on a pedestal due to the events.

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I've been checking out Persona 2 for a bit today, and it looks pretty neato. At least the story does.
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So, there was some text left out of the beginning of Persona 4 supposedly after choosing a difficulty, but it's still on the disk. Have a look:

"Thank you for purchasing Persona 4.

Before you begin the game, we’d like to
ask you, the player, for a favor.

This game has several mystery-style
factors that involves finding the killer
behind a series of heinous murders.

Even if you yourself have any clues
about the criminal’s identity, please
keep them to yourself.

Your clues or theories may deprive
others of the fun of discovering the
story for themselves. Besides...

The truth you find...
...may not be the real truth."

That's eerie as shit. Thoughts?
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So, there was some text left out of the beginning of Persona 4 supposedly after choosing a difficulty, but it's still on the disk. Have a look:

"Thank you for purchasing Persona 4.

Before you begin the game, we’d like to
ask you, the player, for a favor.

This game has several mystery-style
factors that involves finding the killer
behind a series of heinous murders.

Even if you yourself have any clues
about the criminal’s identity, please
keep them to yourself.

Your clues or theories may deprive
others of the fun of discovering the
story for themselves. Besides...

The truth you find...
...may not be the real truth."

That's eerie as shit. Thoughts?

So in short, don't be a dick and spoil the plot for other people. I'm assuming it was left out because telling the player to not spoil the story for other people is both silly and futile.
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builderkid107 wrote:
So, there was some text left out of the beginning of Persona 4 supposedly after choosing a difficulty, but it's still on the disk. Have a look:

"Thank you for purchasing Persona 4.

Before you begin the game, we’d like to
ask you, the player, for a favor.

This game has several mystery-style
factors that involves finding the killer
behind a series of heinous murders.

Even if you yourself have any clues
about the criminal’s identity, please
keep them to yourself.

Your clues or theories may deprive
others of the fun of discovering the
story for themselves. Besides...

The truth you find...
...may not be the real truth."

That's eerie as shit. Thoughts?

So in short, don't be a dick and spoil the plot for other people. I'm assuming it was left out because telling the player to not spoil the story for other people is both silly and futile.


That's what I was thinking, the creepy part is the end "The truth you find......might not be the real truth". Insinuating that there were going to be multiple endings. Yeahyeahyeah, I know about the alternate endings, but multiple endings where if you finger (giggity) the "killer" you'll get a different ending.
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Eh, that's high sounding "Don't Spoil. Also, who knows... we might surprise you" which I can honestly say they didn't. Not even in regards to the True Ending.

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builderkid107 wrote:
sumguy28 wrote:
builderkid107 wrote:
So, there was some text left out of the beginning of Persona 4 supposedly after choosing a difficulty, but it's still on the disk. Have a look:

"Thank you for purchasing Persona 4.

Before you begin the game, we’d like to
ask you, the player, for a favor.

This game has several mystery-style
factors that involves finding the killer
behind a series of heinous murders.

Even if you yourself have any clues
about the criminal’s identity, please
keep them to yourself.

Your clues or theories may deprive
others of the fun of discovering the
story for themselves. Besides...

The truth you find...
...may not be the real truth."

That's eerie as shit. Thoughts?

So in short, don't be a dick and spoil the plot for other people. I'm assuming it was left out because telling the player to not spoil the story for other people is both silly and futile.


That's what I was thinking, the creepy part is the end "The truth you find......might not be the real truth". Insinuating that there were going to be multiple endings. Yeahyeahyeah, I know about the alternate endings, but multiple endings where if you finger (giggity) the "killer" you'll get a different ending.


That's a nice way to say "Don't ruin it for others" and it also hints to multiple endings and/or alludes to different opinions on the game. How did you find that if they didn't include it?
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That's a nice way to say "Don't ruin it for others" and it also hints to multiple endings and/or alludes to different opinions on the game. How did you find that if they didn't include it?


Maybe it's a localization thing that is only on certain parts. Like in Symphonia, Remiel has some text between saying "Chosen of Regeneration, Collet" and she answering with "I'll take this duty/responsibility". Originally, he had a line between that, but it's only in the Japanese version. It somehow... disappeared in the localization of the title. (Including the recently released PS3 update of it - funny, even after a decade, they still screw things up)

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That's a nice way to say "Don't ruin it for others" and it also hints to multiple endings and/or alludes to different opinions on the game. How did you find that if they didn't include it?


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That's a nice way to say "Don't ruin it for others" and it also hints to multiple endings and/or alludes to different opinions on the game. How did you find that if they didn't include it?


Here
This site is rad for finding stuff left on "the cutting room floor".


Think the best message there is "K-K-K-KANJI BREAKER!!"
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Eikichi and Lisa were better.

Wrong Persona 2 :basil:

So Maya's better as a silent protagonist than a character with actual dialogue? I'm...not sure how to feel about that.

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Eh, thanks, but even if I wasn't inept at that sort of thing, I've pretty much burned myself out on the game to the point where I don't really care about it anymore. If I ever do want to know the story, I can just YouTube it.
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Okay. I was gonna do an LP of it at some point, anyway. Now that I have the No Encounter code, I can do what I did for my Phantasia videos. Have no encounters on-screen and grind levels off-screen.

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Ok so now in arena you have a mode that use social links and transform your points into exp points needed to level up your character. Plus you can get your social link to replace Rise as an announcer...

ATLUS! WHY DO YOU MAKE WANT TO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY! XD
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Ok so now in arena you have a mode that use social links and transform your points into exp points needed to level up your character. Plus you can get your social link to replace Rise as an announcer...

ATLUS! WHY DO YOU MAKE WANT TO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY! XD


I misread that as the persona would be the announcer.
Still pretty awesome, wonder what ones will be included.
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Ok so now in arena you have a mode that use social links and transform your points into exp points needed to level up your character. Plus you can get your social link to replace Rise as an announcer...

ATLUS! WHY DO YOU MAKE WANT TO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY! XD


I misread that as the persona would be the announcer.
Still pretty awesome, wonder what ones will be included.



Here's the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLFWyJeURg

We know Nanako, and Teddy will be there to "assist" you. That persona announcing would, indeed be pretty awesome.
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Yosuke is totally straight, pffffff totally.
I think that's my favorite line of his from the game.

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Yosuke is totally straight, pffffff totally.
I think that's my favorite line of his from the game.

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Normally I would complain about VGR having yaoi goggles screwed to his/her/their head(s), but with Yosuke...
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Yosuke is totally straight, pffffff totally.
I think that's my favorite line of his from the game.

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Normally I would complain about VGR having yaoi goggles screwed to his/her/their head(s), but with Yosuke...
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Yup. I wish P4 had gone all the way and made Yosuke (and Kanji, maybe) an actual romanceable Social Link.

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Yosuke is totally straight, pffffff totally.
I think that's my favorite line of his from the game.

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Normally I would complain about VGR having yaoi goggles screwed to his/her/their head(s), but with Yosuke...
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Yup. I wish P4 had gone all the way and made Yosuke (and Kanji, maybe) an actual romanceable Social Link.

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Yosuke is totally straight, pffffff totally.
I think that's my favorite line of his from the game.

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Normally I would complain about VGR having yaoi goggles screwed to his/her/their head(s), but with Yosuke...
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Yup. I wish P4 had gone all the way and made Yosuke (and Kanji, maybe) an actual romanceable Social Link.

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Ohoooo! Hey, why didn't they use them? They already did a big step with Kanji's possible interpretation of being gay. Imagine if they had made Yosuke's Social Link romantic, how controversial that would've been. P4 would've been even more awesome!

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Ohoooo! Hey, why didn't they use them? They already did a big step with Kanji's possible interpretation of being gay. Imagine if they had made Yosuke's Social Link romantic, how controversial that would've been. P4 would've been even more awesome!

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As it wouldn't appeal to everyone, I think they didn't include it so they could sell it to the ordinary Joe.
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Yeah but nothing forces someone to romance Yosuke. Just like nothing forces you to romance any of the girls, or all the girls, in the game. I mean, it isn't Persona 3! A reason why I like P4 more than P3/P3P when playing as the guy. I don't have to whore myself out to all the chicks cause I can't keep my trouser devil confined. I can choose whether I want to pursue a romantic or platonic relationship with the girl. And the game could've done the same with Yosuke as a potential romance option.

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Yeah but nothing forces someone to romance Yosuke. Just like nothing forces you to romance any of the girls, or all the girls, in the game. I mean, it isn't Persona 3! A reason why I like P4 more than P3/P3P when playing as the guy. I don't have to whore myself out to all the chicks cause I can't keep my trouser devil confined. I can choose whether I want to pursue a romantic or platonic relationship with the girl. And the game could've done the same with Yosuke as a potential romance option.

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Meh.

I dunno, I might not have gone well even with the INCLUSION, it doesn't matter now, I guess.
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A schoolboy thug who wears a bullet necklace beating up an entire freaking biker gang because they were interrupting his mother's beauty sleep? He is the best character ever, and we haven't even officially met him yet.

Eh, a good way to describe Kanji. Although that's not the reason I like him.

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Currently downloading Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth in Japanese. However, for some reason I have the weirdest connection problems. When I initiate the download, it works as intended, but after a very short while, it just stops, and I have to wait for the error message to show up and try again. I'm currently downloading it bit by bit, even though my internet connection at the moment is running smoothly.

I should point out that my European 3DS is currently suffering from this odd phenomenon as well, and that it used to work swimmingly before. I'm baffled.
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Speaking of Persona Q, you know how pre orders came with a rad soundtrack? Well....it sure is rad.
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builderkid107 wrote:
Speaking of Persona Q, you know how pre orders came with a rad soundtrack? Well....it sure is rad.


BAM! In my Ipod! Thanks for the link. Whish I could understand the lyrics (engrish... :meekins: )

Thane: So did you managed to download it? Is it good? Or so-so? or...
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That song's been nice, I've been waiting for a full version of Carousel (or Maze of Life as it's being called now) instead of just the loop from the trailer. I think I prefer the instrumentals from the original version but hey this version is more than just a loop so I won't knock it.

Any news on when the game will come out abroad?
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