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That song's been nice, I've been waiting for a full version of Carousel (or Maze of Life as it's being called now) instead of just the loop from the trailer. I think I prefer the instrumentals from the original version but hey this version is more than just a loop so I won't knock it.

Any news on when the game will come out abroad?


That isn't the loop I posted... also, if you check the channel, you can find some of the other songs, and because I'm too lazy to post it, the channel is PersonaFanChannel.

It should be coming out in Q4 2014, I think...
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Shut Up, Teddie! Argh I hate that bear so much... :larry:

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So... I saw that Persona Q was available for pre-order. Weirdly enough, I want the special edition for everything except the soundtrack, because I can easily get it on the internet, Now I check the price...

HOLY S--T! 80 Bucks?! For real?!

So I decided to check the standard edition one (it come with the game and the 22 Tarot Card)...50$.

Atlus. What. The. Heck.

Random Note on Persona Ultimax

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Adachi is there WHOOOOP!

As a DLC obviously...

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Shao-Mae wrote:
So... I saw that Persona Q was available for pre-order. Weirdly enough, I want the special edition for everything except the soundtrack, because I can easily get it on the internet, Now I check the price...

HOLY S--T! 80 Bucks?! For real?!

So I decided to check the standard edition one (it come with the game and the 22 Tarot Card)...50$.

Atlus. What. The. Heck.

Random Note on Persona Ultimax

Spoiler:
Adachi is there WHOOOOP!

As a DLC obviously...

I'm REALLY hoping that limited edition bundle is sold in Australia, (We got the soundtrack bundle with P4 Arena, but this looks too good a deal to be wasted on given to us.)

Also, SMT IV has been announced for Europe! It's download only, but who cares, we're getting it! :edgey:
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Shao-Mae wrote:
So... I saw that Persona Q was available for pre-order. Weirdly enough, I want the special edition for everything except the soundtrack, because I can easily get it on the internet, Now I check the price...

HOLY S--T! 80 Bucks?! For real?!

So I decided to check the standard edition one (it come with the game and the 22 Tarot Card)...50$.

Atlus. What. The. Heck.

Random Note on Persona Ultimax

Spoiler:
Adachi is there WHOOOOP!

As a DLC obviously...

I'm REALLY hoping that limited edition bundle is sold in Australia, (We got the soundtrack bundle with P4 Arena, but this looks too good a deal to be wasted on given to us.)

Also, SMT IV has been announced for Europe! It's download only, but who cares, we're getting it! :edgey:


Woah Woah woah it's on the way?! Excellent!

Also Adachi?!

DOUBLE EXCELLENT!!!!

What's included in the special edition of Persona Q?
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What's included in the special edition of Persona Q?

The game soundtrack, a 3DS XL Case, the arcana cards (11 of them) and an art book.
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What's included in the special edition of Persona Q?

The game soundtrack, a 3DS XL Case, the arcana cards (11 of them) and an art book.


Is it that awesome 'tarot book' 3DS XL Case? Seems totally worth it if so.
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Pierre wrote:
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What's included in the special edition of Persona Q?

The game soundtrack, a 3DS XL Case, the arcana cards (11 of them) and an art book.


Is it that awesome 'tarot book' 3DS XL Case? Seems totally worth it if so.


Nope, only Japan got the 3DSLL with that shell and we get a 3DS case with a different design.
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Pierre: You can go on the facebook Page of Altus USA if you want to see the case. Also... WHY ATLUS WHY DO YOU WANT ME TO PRE ORDER PERSONA ULTIMAX IN ORDER TO GET THE FULL TAROT DECK. It was the only item I really wanted...
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Tomoko's words are proven to be truthful by Narukami.

Also, I'm pretty sure this image is fake for Persona 5. If it isn't, I'll be surprised.

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Tomoko's words are proven to be truthful by Narukami.

Also, I'm pretty sure this image is fake for Persona 5. If it isn't, I'll be surprised.

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I really want that shirt. I think it's a reference to Persona 2...7 sisters high? I'unno.

Also, that P5 picture is sick, I hope we get a female protagonist.
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Tomoko's words are proven to be truthful by Narukami.

Also, I'm pretty sure this image is fake for Persona 5. If it isn't, I'll be surprised.

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I really want that shirt. I think it's a reference to Persona 2...7 sisters high? I'unno.

Also, that P5 picture is sick, I hope we get a female protagonist.


I hope it's fake, P5 should be it's own thing, past characters should get one cameo...like the school trip in P4. Don't want more Teddy and old crew, needs to make itself unique.

Though I'd rather they do what P3P did and let people have a choice.
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Though I'd rather they do what P3P did and let people have a choice.


As long as they don't flat out say "No, this one gender route is totally non-canon and technically never happened" like they did with P3P.

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Though I'd rather they do what P3P did and let people have a choice.


As long as they don't flat out say "No, this one gender route is totally non-canon and technically never happened" like they did with P3P.

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Well at least they recognize Theodore who is exclusive the female route. Also, I can't really blame them for saying the female route isn't canon, I mean the original versions we were playing a guy so it would had been weird if now two character existed in the same reality and in different dimension at the same time.

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Adachi you will be mine :viola: . This video make me want to spend the 5 buck he will probably cost and make me hype a little about the game. THE SELF CENTERED CABBAGE DETECTIVE--TOHRU ADACHI!!!!!! (I love the fact that they acknowledge his love for cabbages) Atlus know his fandom.
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Man makes me so happy he's in it. I hear if you pre-order he comes with the game rather than as DLC.

Though the video is totally spoilers for Persona 4 if anyone hasn't played it yet.

Still I can't wait to find out how he plays.
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Man makes me so happy he's in it. I hear if you pre-order he comes with the game rather than as DLC.

Though the video is totally spoilers for Persona 4 if anyone hasn't played it yet.


Well, it's not a very well hidden spoiler for anyone savvy enough to recognize it

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What would be so wrong to say that the Female Route is a parallel universe version of the guy one? It'd be nice to think so, I mean, isn't there a mention that the Male hero has a dead sister, but that the Female hero has a dead brother? It'd be cool to think that it's basically that small difference in a parallel universe that, well, made the difference.

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Pierre wrote:
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Tomoko's words are proven to be truthful by Narukami.

Also, I'm pretty sure this image is fake for Persona 5. If it isn't, I'll be surprised.

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I really want that shirt. I think it's a reference to Persona 2...7 sisters high? I'unno.

Also, that P5 picture is sick, I hope we get a female protagonist.


I hope it's fake, P5 should be it's own thing, past characters should get one cameo...like the school trip in P4. Don't want more Teddy and old crew, needs to make itself unique.

Though I'd rather they do what P3P did and let people have a choice.


No doubt it is fake, after all, it's missing the red motif and uses yellow instead, which is strictly Persona 4. I'd be interested in having a choice in protagonists as well. It mixes it up a bit. Just like the Pokemon games, I enjoy playing the female character every now and then to mix things up. Make it a thing, Atlus.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


I feel the same
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Man makes me so happy he's in it. I hear if you pre-order he comes with the game rather than as DLC.

Though the video is totally spoilers for Persona 4 if anyone hasn't played it yet.


Well, it's not a very well hidden spoiler for anyone savvy enough to recognize it

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What would be so wrong to say that the Female Route is a parallel universe version of the guy one? It'd be nice to think so, I mean, isn't there a mention that the Male hero has a dead sister, but that the Female hero has a dead brother? It'd be cool to think that it's basically that small difference in a parallel universe that, well, made the difference.

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You mean ,like in pokémon where the gender difference do nothing except changing your rival sex? Personally I don't like that when the story is very important in the game since in my head you can't write a character and just tag in a gender at the end. Also the question arise, which one is canon? Which one should we use in other media? Canon become more and more important to the fans now that Atlus try really hard to tie the serie's altogheter. I don't mind Theodore since he's just an attandant but now if they try to pull something like the blue haired boy in that dimension and that girl in that other dimension I would be really pissed because they would be trying way too hard.


Now I really wonder if I should pre-order PArena U and PersonaQ just for the cards and the fact that my PS3 have a really hard time with the internet. Each time I try to download a game it fail miserably at leat 10 time.
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http://twitter.com/ErinFitzgerald/statu ... 6041151488

Erin Fitzgerald, the voice of Chie in P4A, Animation, and Golden, has just announced that the original voice actress for Naoto will be reprising her role in P4AU. She had originally voiced Naoto in Persona 4 for the PS2, but had had a different voice actress for Persona 4 Arena, Animation, and the extra dialogue in Golden.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


I feel the same
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I wonder if they'll even bother to try to make Naoto's gender a secret in Q. It was already badly hidden in P4...

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I wonder if they'll even bother to try to make Naoto's gender a secret in Q. It was already badly hidden in P4...

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Pssshaw the game takes place after their perspective games so it's not gonna be a secret. Naoto's come to accept that part of herself so no reason to hide it from strangers anymore.

In any case a friend of mine heard this game is actual canon and that the ending of Persona 4 Ultimax is going to lead into this.
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In any case a friend of mine heard this game is actual canon and that the ending of Persona 4 Ultimax is going to lead into this.


When you say canon, I hope you are talking about Arena and not Q, because now I would be dissapointed... If it's true there is a lot of chances that they will screw it up because they are trying too hard.
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In any case a friend of mine heard this game is actual canon and that the ending of Persona 4 Ultimax is going to lead into this.


When you say canon, I hope you are talking about Arena and not Q, because now I would be dissapointed... If it's true there is a lot of chances that they will screw it up because they are trying too hard.


Arena is always Canon. Q is what I was talking about.
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In any case a friend of mine heard this game is actual canon and that the ending of Persona 4 Ultimax is going to lead into this.


When you say canon, I hope you are talking about Arena and not Q, because now I would be dissapointed... If it's true there is a lot of chances that they will screw it up because they are trying too hard.


If Q is canon, I hope they have a good freaking explanation on why... *sigh*

Spoiler: P3 Spoilers
The P3 protagonist is up and about and dandy and ALIVE


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Almost certainly: time travel.
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Almost certainly: time travel.

Ah, the cheapest cop-out in the history of ever...
In which case, when would the time-travel have occured?
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Almost certainly: time travel.

Ah, the cheapest cop-out in the history of ever...
In which case, when would the time-travel have occured?


Who knows.

Spoiler: Persona 3
The cast isn't just back to life it's actually reverted them to their school forms. Akihiko isn't shirtless anymore so it must be happening somehow outside of time and space.

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Almost certainly: time travel.


Of course. That plot device that is generally used when someone has completely run out of ideas to explain anything. Off the top of my head, I can only think of Harry Potter using Time Travel in Book 3 and it still working out and the rest of the series being interesting

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Pierre wrote:
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Almost certainly: time travel.

Ah, the cheapest cop-out in the history of ever...
In which case, when would the time-travel have occured?


Who knows.

Spoiler: Persona 3
The cast isn't just back to life it's actually reverted them to their school forms. Akihiko isn't shirtless anymore so it must be happening somehow outside of time and space.


Didn't The Answer deal with some kind of time travel hooplah? I'm curious if it's going to have anything to do with the TV as well since that's pretty much the go to in Persona 4 now for any kind of plot device.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


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Yeah the Answer was roughly about time travel and a chance to amend mistakes.

Of course
Spoiler: Persona 3
Two of Persona 3's characters were dead by that point so they can't exactly make a loophole where Q is an extension of the The Answer.


Or maybe they are all automatons summoned back by Igor for some Divine reason
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http://twitter.com/ErinFitzgerald/status/481566226041151488

Erin Fitzgerald, the voice of Chie in P4A, Animation, and Golden, has just announced that the original voice actress for Naoto will be reprising her role in P4AU. She had originally voiced Naoto in Persona 4 for the PS2, but had had a different voice actress for Persona 4 Arena, Animation, and the extra dialogue in Golden.


I sort of liked her voice in the animation...it sounded more appropriately boyish.

Also, Persona Q being canon? How about no.
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Guys, I'm playing Persona 4 again and I must say...
Look, I like Yosuke. He is overall a good and funny character and all... And I love his versatility in battle - how he can use physical attacks, Wind magic and Diarama at the same time.

But he annoys me to death when he starts talking about "SAKI-SENPAAAAAI".
Dude, the girl happily used you and admitted it. I'd understand if he denied it for some time and accepted the truth later, but from the last talks of his S. Link, it's clear that he completely ignored how the girl was a complete bitch to him. What the hell?
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But he annoys me to death when he starts talking about "SAKI-SENPAAAAAI".
Dude, the girl happily used you and admitted it. I'd understand if he denied it for some time and accepted the truth later, but from the last talks of his S. Link, it's clear that he completely ignored how the girl was a complete bitch to him. What the hell?


I think it's cause he kinda thinks "Yeah she hated me. But that was just a part of her." and how what he heard in the TV World was only the darkest part and he won't let that tarnish his memory of her too much. I personally would ask him why the hell he didn't at least once think "What a total bitch!" about Konishi... but then, I'm not Japanese and maybe Yosuke is doing it a Japanese way. Or he's still blinded by his crush on her. I would've enjoyed his Social Link, had they gone all out and made him give up on Konishi in the last event and come out to the protagonist.
Would've been so much better.

Also, I have to ask this about Golden... am I really the only person who hates how I can pick whatever skill I want to inherit when fusing Personae? Or even using Skill Cards?

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But he annoys me to death when he starts talking about "SAKI-SENPAAAAAI".
Dude, the girl happily used you and admitted it. I'd understand if he denied it for some time and accepted the truth later, but from the last talks of his S. Link, it's clear that he completely ignored how the girl was a complete bitch to him. What the hell?


I think it's cause he kinda thinks "Yeah she hated me. But that was just a part of her." and how what he heard in the TV World was only the darkest part and he won't let that tarnish his memory of her too much. I personally would ask him why the hell he didn't at least once think "What a total bitch!" about Konishi... but then, I'm not Japanese and maybe Yosuke is doing it a Japanese way. Or he's still blinded by his crush on her. I would've enjoyed his Social Link, had they gone all out and made him give up on Konishi in the last event and come out to the protagonist.
Would've been so much better.

Also, I have to ask this about Golden... am I really the only person who hates how I can pick whatever skill I want to inherit when fusing Personae? Or even using Skill Cards?

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Wasn't the point of Yosuke's character development to become more independent? If he was a romantic option, then wouldn't Yu just be a replacement goldfish for Saki?

And do you know how long I kept pressing X and O over and over just to fuse Trumpeter with Mind Charge? Like two hours. TWO HOURS!
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But he annoys me to death when he starts talking about "SAKI-SENPAAAAAI".
Dude, the girl happily used you and admitted it. I'd understand if he denied it for some time and accepted the truth later, but from the last talks of his S. Link, it's clear that he completely ignored how the girl was a complete bitch to him. What the hell?


I think it's cause he kinda thinks "Yeah she hated me. But that was just a part of her." and how what he heard in the TV World was only the darkest part and he won't let that tarnish his memory of her too much. I personally would ask him why the hell he didn't at least once think "What a total bitch!" about Konishi... but then, I'm not Japanese and maybe Yosuke is doing it a Japanese way. Or he's still blinded by his crush on her. I would've enjoyed his Social Link, had they gone all out and made him give up on Konishi in the last event and come out to the protagonist.
Would've been so much better.

Also, I have to ask this about Golden... am I really the only person who hates how I can pick whatever skill I want to inherit when fusing Personae? Or even using Skill Cards?

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Yeah but to you Cat everything is better with homosexuality.

In any case I reckon there's probably a few die-hards who hate themselves enough to want to re-do the fusion process over and over again but it's a sensible thing they did. It makes an hour-long process much faster and easier. It's just more practical, I suppose if you felt the 'right' skills should only belong to those that deserve to work for it then yeah it'd be a problem but it's just a smart decision in my eyes.

Regarding Yosuke, he's a boring character anyway, dump him for Kanji first chance you get.
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And do you know how long I kept pressing X and O over and over just to fuse Trumpeter with Mind Charge? Like two hours. TWO HOURS!


Hey, your patience is better than mine I gave up after 45 Minutes. Then again, after 45 minutes I finally said "Fuck it" and fused him with Mind Charge. I had gotten Mind Charge previously, I was trying to see if I could get, I think, Arrow Rain alongside it.

And I kinda get it's an Anti-Frustration-Matter now, I still think it's annoying because I like some control taken away. I know it's optional, but I don't even like the option to create an overpowered, low level Persona with high skills. Cause I know there's some smartass on the internet who'll brag how he made it all the way to the second-to-last dungeon in Persona 4 Golden by using his overpowered Pixie with Megidolaon, Debilitate and Heat Riser AND Arrow Rain or any other high hitting skills.

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Urgh, I found Kanji to be mediocre at best. Yeah he hits hard at times, but Yosuke has the advantage of being a complete Jack-Of-All-Trades. He can use Garu Spells, heal a bit and hit decently enough. Kanji just... hits. Yeah he has Zio Spells, but then, I get better Zio Hitters before I even get Kanji, so really, what's the point of using him.

And in-battle, doesn't matter how interesting one might find a character. If taking uninteresting characters out of my party meant anything, I would never go into dungeons unless I had either Yosuke or Rise with me. And Rise would have to be playable. Cause the rest range from boring (Yukiko) to I WANT TO BURN YOU (Teddie) to you-kinda-feel-out-of-place (Naoto)

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Yeah, I've tried Kanji, but Yosuke's versatility is so much better overall. He's there if I need that extra healing or some buffs. Besides, if I'm going for raw damage, Chie handles it so much better. Granted, Kanji is my favorite character in game, but as someone in battle, he really doesn't do it for me. Besides, I always bring Yukiko and since Chie and Yukiko get an added bonus attack when together in battle in Golden, it just works out so much better for me.

As for Cat's question about picking skills in Golden. I was against it at first, but after getting to choose so much, I found that I much prefer it. Seriously, when I'm wasting 2 or more hours on one Persona to try and get that ONE skill I need on the Persona I'm fusing, yeah, I'm better off choosing my own skills. Besides, Golden gives you the added bonus of letting you know what skills are able to be transferred to your new Persona so you're not spending hours trying to get that one skill only to find out you'll never get it.
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Also, I have to ask this about Golden... am I really the only person who hates how I can pick whatever skill I want to inherit when fusing Personae? Or even using Skill Cards?

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Yes.

And best team in Golden is Team Harem

Yukiko - best heals, strongest magic
Chie - second-strongest physical attacks, Dragon Hustle, tag-team attack with Yukiko
Naoto - covers everything the other two can't, Shield of Justice

Yosuke is a solid party member overall but there isn't really anything he can do the others can't do better besides Dekaja.
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I need to play Persona 4 Golden. I been spending too much time playing Danganronpa trying to get all the achievements and I been leaving Persona in my nightstand collecting dust. I hate forgetting about games I buy because i'm distracted by other games.
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I've been playing Persona 2: Innocent Sin recently - it's my first Persona game (and first SMT).

I'm enjoying it, but it's very much a product of its time. The battle system is very traditional JRPG fare, fusion attacks aside, and having a dozen-plus elements doesn't really add that much depth, just more stuff to keep track of. Contacting demons, while a neat feature, shows its limits very quickly as well. Dungeons are too frequent and too random-battle-filled for their own good; I'm about to enter the third dungeon in a row related to a certain subplot, and there's been minimal plot development at each. (The first even literally ends with the group finding the people they're looking for, talking for about two minutes, said people leaving, and the group saying "oh we should go follow them" - which leads, of course, into another dungeon.)

All that said, the soundtrack is great, the sprite work is strong, and the plot and characters have been quite interesting so far. The characters in particular are making it for me - the game's absolutely packed with side dialogue, so you can get a better picture of the protagonists beyond just the main plot, without spinning off into full-fledged relationship sim stuff like P3/P4 or Dangan Ronpa. And the Persona system is a fun way of gaining skills/stats, even if getting cards can be a bit of a grind.

I'll keep playing, and I have high hopes, but something tells me I wouldn't be getting nearly as far as I am if it weren't for all the traveling I've been doing lately. There's a good game here, but it's got a lot slowing it down.
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