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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


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So many new details, where to begin...


Palutena from Kid Icarus? Playable.


Miis? Playable, in three variations: Brawler, Weapon master, Gunner.


Many new and returning game modes. Home Run Contest was among them.


Collectable real-world figures called Amiibo that can do many different things when used with the game.


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Ha! Shame on all of you that thought that leaked image was fake!
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Also, 3DS version delayed to October. Damn it.
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I feel like Palutena is a waste of a character slot, but jesus that trailer was amazing!
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Oh wow, the Japanese Smash Bros. for 3DS release date (9/13) is almost a month earlier than the EU/US release (3/10)! Yay for Japanese 3DS!
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I feel like Palutena is a waste of a character slot, but jesus that trailer was amazing!


They just had to include showing off her ass and then have her gainaxing.

At first I thought the amiibo were mandatory for playing the game, thankfully that isn't the case. Still not excited from what we've seen so far.

The highlight of the stream was when Reggie and Mario were doing a stand-up comedy act and someone complained about not getting another Star Fox game, and Reggie shot him with his laser eyes...it was glorious.
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Here's the Palutena announcement trailer. That awesome animation makes me want a Smash Bros. anime now...


We know about the GCN controller adaptor, but now Nintendo has announced the price, as well as a special bundle. You can get the adaptor alone for $20, a Smash-themed GCN controller for $30 and a bundle that includes both of those plus the game for $100.


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Ha! Shame on all of you that thought that leaked image was fake!
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Also, 3DS version delayed to October. Damn it.

Truth be told, the image at the time was likely fake. It was likely just coincidental that Palutena ended up being playable.


EDIT: Here's the official character select screen, straight from the press package:

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Is it safe to assume this could be the starting roster?
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Here's the Palutena announcement trailer. That awesome animation makes me want a Smash Bros. anime now...

That. Was. AWESOME.
And I agree about the anime thing.
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I know the trailer is supposed to show her off (apparently in more ways than one...), but didn't she seem a tad too overpowered? It looked like she was not only incredibly fast, but also had gigantic AoE attacks, although it's true we don't exactly know what her Final Smash is.
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Thane wrote:
I know the trailer is supposed to show her off (apparently in more ways than one...), but didn't she seem a tad too overpowered? It looked like she was not only incredibly fast, but also had gigantic AoE attacks, although it's true we don't exactly know what her Final Smash is.

I have a feeling that her final smash was that 'Black Hole/Mega Laser' combo.
And who knows? Maybe she's a glass cannon that gets KO'd after just a couple hits.
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Thane wrote:
I know the trailer is supposed to show her off (apparently in more ways than one...), but didn't she seem a tad too overpowered? It looked like she was not only incredibly fast, but also had gigantic AoE attacks, although it's true we don't exactly know what her Final Smash is.

I have a feeling that her final smash was that 'Black Hole/Mega Laser' combo.
And who knows? Maybe she's a glass cannon that gets KO'd after just a couple hits.


Oh most likely. I was just thrown off by the fact that she combined a black hole with...a laser. Oh well, considering that Little Mac seems to be developed as a Meta Knight without overpowered recovery, I'm sure they're doing their hardest to balance things out. I mean, nobody wants an unfair fighting game, after all. She just looked so damn fast AND strong, but hey, she can teleport, and that means she'll probably be my character of choice along with Zelda. Now I just need Lucina.

I apologize for spamming this thread, but I do have a question of some importance: were all characters confirmed before the release of Brawl? There are some old names that have yet to be revealed, and I'm still hoping for Lucina, so it would be nice to know if they'll reveal all characters before the release of the next installment or not.
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Is it safe to assume this could be the starting roster?


Probably not. At least it's missing Ike so I don't think this is anything official.
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Thane wrote:
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Thane wrote:
I know the trailer is supposed to show her off (apparently in more ways than one...), but didn't she seem a tad too overpowered? It looked like she was not only incredibly fast, but also had gigantic AoE attacks, although it's true we don't exactly know what her Final Smash is.

I have a feeling that her final smash was that 'Black Hole/Mega Laser' combo.
And who knows? Maybe she's a glass cannon that gets KO'd after just a couple hits.


Oh most likely. I was just thrown off by the fact that she combined a black hole with...a laser. Oh well, considering that Little Mac seems to be developed as a Meta Knight without overpowered recovery, I'm sure they're doing their hardest to balance things out. I mean, nobody wants an unfair fighting game, after all. She just looked so damn fast AND strong, but hey, she can teleport, and that means she'll probably be my character of choice along with Zelda. Now I just need Lucina.


The black hole/laser thing is from Kid Icarus: Uprising. There are two different weapons that let you do those skills, so being a goddess I imagine it's not impossible to imagine she can use both at once. And Sakurai is literally hurting himself while trying to balance the game as best as possible, so to say they're trying their hardest is an understatement.


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I apologize for spamming this thread, but I do have a question of some importance: were all characters confirmed before the release of Brawl? There are some old names that have yet to be revealed, and I'm still hoping for Lucina, so it would be nice to know if they'll reveal all characters before the release of the next installment or not.


Anyone listed under "secret fighters" here wasn't revealed before the game came out in Japan. Some of them were announced on the US Dojo before the western release because the game came out in Japan beforehand.


And hey, don't worry about spamming, you're not doing anything of the sort. Hell, I post in here way more than anyone else, after all. :godot:


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Probably not. At least it's missing Ike so I don't think this is anything official.


It's straight from the official press kit. I suppose it could just be for the invitational tournament, I suppose, but it is an official image.
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Thane wrote:
Now I just need Lucina.

She'll just be an alt costume for Marth. I feel that Robin or Chrom have higher chances to represent Awakening to be honest.
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Blak The Great wrote:
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Now I just need Lucina.

She'll just be an alt costume for Marth. I feel that Robin or Chrom have higher chances to represent Awakening to be honest.


I agree with you, but since I liked her more than the ones you mentioned, I hope she'll be her own character, even if it's more probable she'll be an alternative costume at best.

You know, I really do hope we'll get a Fire Emblem: Awakening character at all. It'd really surprise me if we didn't, considering Awakening's success.

Edit/update: a picture of her DID appear when they were talking about the next Super Smash Bros. and the amiibo figures.
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Looks like gameplay footage has started coming in. Can't see much from this one, unfortunately, but at least it confirms character intros are back.


Also, official boxart for both versions:

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Link kinda steals the spotlight in the 3DS one.

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Here's the Palutena announcement trailer. That awesome animation makes me want a Smash Bros. anime now...

Is that Viridi at 2:19?

Please be Viridi.
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Was certainly a very nice showing, though I think tagging in Amiibo might be a bit cheap.

Also Palutena does feel a bit of a wasted one I agree but yeah that was a beautiful animated intro.
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Was certainly a very nice showing, though I think tagging in Amiibo might be a bit cheap.

Also Palutena does feel a bit of a wasted one I agree but yeah that was a beautiful animated intro.

My guess is this was done for the sake of having more female choices, which I also see with Rosalina. Granted, why couldn't they have put Lucina into the game (and maybe they might) but I feel that with Palutena, they have much more liberty to give her a diverse moveset compared to someone like Lucina.

Honestly, I'm fine with Palutena. I'm glad to see Kid Icarus is getting more representatives and seeing as to how that was a game done by Sakurai, it really comes as no surprise. Granted, I'd rather have seen Magnus, but Palutena is a fun character and I'm interested to see how she controls.

I'm also hoping Viridi and her crew get some kind of screen time in the game. Except for Cragalanche. Aside from his cool name, he didn't really have too much going for him, other than being a giant rock.
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And you guys didn't believe that leak >.>
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Pac-Man and Mr. Game & Watch were just revealed during the Nintendo Roundtable discussion:

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From Sakurai's twitter.

Pac-Man can apparently transform into an 8-bit version of himself for certain attacks.


Also, the Mii Fighters can't be used online with anyone, only friends. I suppose that makes sense in terms of Nintendo's censorship (what with people making Miis that look like, well, all sorts of things), but it does kind of eliminate a whole character in that regard.


Oh, and in case anyone missed it, the tournament was awesome. If you're at all interested in how the tournament scene will play, go take a look.


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Is that Viridi at 2:19?

Please be Viridi.

Yes indeed. She even shows up and talks (possibly attacks?) in the 3DS Kid Icarus-themed stage, IIRC. I wouldn't be surprised if they put in hidden taunts for that stage that include her and Hades or something.


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Was certainly a very nice showing, though I think tagging in Amiibo might be a bit cheap.

Also Palutena does feel a bit of a wasted one I agree but yeah that was a beautiful animated intro.


Gotta get that Skylanders competition out there somehow. At least they're using it for more than just Smash Bros. in the future.
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I have a question regarding the Mii character for the Super Smash Bros. From the screenshots, it is shown that different Miis are used. But, how can one, say for example, pick the Mii they want to use to fight the other fighters?
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I have a question regarding the Mii character for the Super Smash Bros. From the screenshots, it is shown that different Miis are used. But, how can one, say for example, pick the Mii they want to use to fight the other fighters?


Likely in the way Mario Kart 8 does it; you click on the Mii and a drop-down menu appears, from which you can pick the one you want to use.


EDIT: Pac-Man trailer is up. It's... pretty much what I expected, actually. That 8-bit side-scrolling stage looks ridiculous. You can find his new Smash profile here as well.

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There's also a new page on custom move sets. Looks live every character can do this except Palutena and the Mii Fighters. The latter instead get clothing customizations:

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Interesting little factoid from Sakurai's Q&A session tells us that the roster for SSB was pretty much finalized right when development started. Nice to know that the "popularity" argument surrounding characters like Greninja are debunked.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
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I have a question regarding the Mii character for the Super Smash Bros. From the screenshots, it is shown that different Miis are used. But, how can one, say for example, pick the Mii they want to use to fight the other fighters?


Likely in the way Mario Kart 8 does it; you click on the Mii and a drop-down menu appears, from which you can pick the one you want to use.


EDIT: Pac-Man trailer is up. It's... pretty much what I expected, actually. That 8-bit side-scrolling stage looks ridiculous. You can find his new Smash profile here as well.

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There's also a new page on custom move sets. Looks live every character can do this except Palutena and the Mii Fighters. The latter instead get clothing customizations:

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So what are you guys' opinion on Pac-Man? I don't mean to sound negative, but that's the only character that wastes a character slot so far, if you ask me.
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So what are you guys' opinion on Pac-Man? I don't mean to sound negative, but that's the only character that wastes a character slot so far, if you ask me.

I don't believe in the whole "wasted character slot" gripe people love to throw around these days, and I'm happy he's in the game. I'm a fan of the quirky characters in my fighting games, and Pac Man looks fun to play as. Plus, now we've officially got Mascot Battle Bros.
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So what are you guys' opinion on Pac-Man? I don't mean to sound negative, but that's the only character that wastes a character slot so far, if you ask me.

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It's not Isaac, it's not a good use of the slot.
Nah I'm sure he's probably fine, I've just never been a big fan of pac-man.

Though that customisable equipment and movestuff looks fascinating to me.

As for them being banned from online play it makes total sense to me, for balance. You have characters who can take moves from OTHER classes, to prevent someone breaking the game (or maybe the Netcode can't handle it) they just remove them from the equation.
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Thane wrote:
So what are you guys' opinion on Pac-Man? I don't mean to sound negative, but that's the only character that wastes a character slot so far, if you ask me.


Although I never had a particularly strong opinion on Pac-Man and his games I think he makes a wonderful addition to the game. It's a big icon worthy of clashing against the likes of Mario, Mega Man and Sonic. All I hope for is that he'll be treated better in Smash than he was in Streetfighter X Tekken.
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I'm not even a Pacman fan and i think he looks fun to play as.
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To be perfectly honest here, I feel that ROB was more of a wasted character slot than Pac-Man. And let's not even go back to all the clones Melee had. If these newly added characters were clones, I'd feel they'd be a waste, but seeing as they each come with some sort of unique play style, I'm all up for it. And before you go and say I'm contradicting myself by mentioning ROB, I'm just going to outright say that I didn't like ROB very much.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)


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To be perfectly honest here, I feel that ROB was more of a wasted character slot than Pac-Man. And let's not even go back to all the clones Melee had. If these newly added characters were clones, I'd feel they'd be a waste, but seeing as they each come with some sort of unique play style, I'm all up for it. And before you go and say I'm contradicting myself by mentioning ROB, I'm just going to outright say that I didn't like ROB very much.



I liked ROB...he had some sick aerial moves and his eye laser was always fun. Though you are right, the clones were a big problem, makes me glad they diversified Luigi so much.

Also I just finished watching the Invitational Tournament, man that was some fun stuff. Though I think they must have had limited assists and the like programmed into it. Pong came up so many times and I think out of 4 matches Arceus showed up in 3. The finale was also disappointing with Zero willing to evade out the timer rather than fight to the end and then win because sudden death.

Was amazing to see Megaman's final smash get pulled out and relieved to see Mac ain't too OP because his KO punch. Firstly it's not always a K.O., it hits Rosalina once at 0% and leaves her at 39% on the edge of the screen but still alive nonetheless. Plus after you reach K.O. status you have a few seconds to capitalise on it or it goes away from the looks of things.
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To be perfectly honest here, I feel that ROB was more of a wasted character slot than Pac-Man. And let's not even go back to all the clones Melee had. If these newly added characters were clones, I'd feel they'd be a waste, but seeing as they each come with some sort of unique play style, I'm all up for it. And before you go and say I'm contradicting myself by mentioning ROB, I'm just going to outright say that I didn't like ROB very much.



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I don't know how you can say ROB is the worst character added when characters like Pichu existed in Smash....
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