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If that's true then that proves that the Gematsu leak is indeed fake.
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Sakurai has a weird sense of humour...
EDIT: Also, yeah, Chrom has no page on the official site, so he's not playable. Unless the person who made the Gematsu leak only saw Chrom as Robin's Final Smash/an Assist Trophy, it's been debunked.
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YESSSSSSSSS
Also, yay Robin. He looks he'll be fun to play as, with the limited usage magic tomes.
Also, I'm pretty sure it's on the smash YouTube page. Can't link cuz on phone, but it shooooooould be somewhere there...
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Sjibbey wrote:
Is somewhere a video of all that was revealed? the video with the timer was a live event so I can't watch it anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdW7-sV348Y
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Mijumaru wrote:
Sjibbey wrote:
Is somewhere a video of all that was revealed? the video with the timer was a live event so I can't watch it anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdW7-sV348Y
It's working now
Thinks man! I'm always hype for more Fire Emblem characters! Maybe I'll have to switch mains if one of the FE guys plays better than Marth.
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Looks like we were both right! I also thought that Chrom was playable until I watched the trailer again... he's just apart of Robin's Final Smash. That's alright 'cause 5 Fire Emblem characters would be a lot and we don't need another swordsman.
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Actually kinda disappointing, Robin wasn't really top of my list to include (since I dislike generic Robin's look) he was far from the most entertaining character in that game (like seriously, bring on Henry!).
Also is Lucina just a Marth Clone/Reskin? I thought we were avoiding those as much as possible this time around? I mean sure it makes sense considering *spoiler* but hell come on.
An Chrom as an assist trophy/Final Smash? Well at least he's in it.
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kwando1313 wrote:
GEMATSU DECONFIRMED
YESSSSSSSSS
YESSSSSSSSS
What makes you so sure? Chrom is still in the game and almost everyone else in the leak is accounted for.
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The only worry to me now is just how many hidden characters there will be. We currently have 37, will the roster push 50?
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GEMATSU DECONFIRMED
YESSSSSSSSS
YESSSSSSSSS
Probably the best part of this. Hopefully that means we can leave that ridiculous "leak" nonsense in the dust.
EDIT: Since I haven't seen it mentioned yet, Sakurai made a reply to his recent Miiverse post with this:
"And welcome back, Captain Falcon!! When are you ever getting a new game of your own!?"
Even Sakurai wants a new F-Zero.
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... *slow clap* ... sorry, can't get excited over this.
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Yes, but you're never excited over anything, unless it involves death and destruction...or yaoi.
I can't get excited over Captain Falcon cause... well, he's been in the previous ones, why should I jump out of happiness about him being in another Smash? It's like saying "The next Legend of Zelda game that features... LINK!" it just has no appeal to it because you almost come to expect it.
As for the FE characters...
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Eh too many Fire Emblem characters.
Yeah feels a bit like that. I dunno, balance your various series better or give us someone whom we'd never expect to be in the game like........... Tingle.
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Klonoahedgehog wrote:
kwando1313 wrote:
GEMATSU DECONFIRMED
YESSSSSSSSS
YESSSSSSSSS
What makes you so sure? Chrom is still in the game and almost everyone else in the leak is accounted for.
1) Chrom's not playable.
2) Gematsu said that Shulk would be revealed today.
Also, why is everyone saying 5 FE characters? There's only 4 to my knowledge... Robin, Lucina, Ike, and Marth.
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But we're never gonna get another F-Zero, I just know it :(
Also, still holding out hope for Shulk or someone else in the vain of "characters from game series that haven't been in smash before" on top of the ones we've got already. There being a second unannounced announcement today would be brilliant :P Like a more drawn out version of their reveals in the E3 Nintendo Direct.
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I'm just happy that my brothers happy, it's his birthday tomorrow so seeing characters from hi's favorite 3DS game revealed alongside one of hi's mains made him really happy.
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Eh. Honestly, the only one who feels "same-y" is Lucina. All the other characters look quite different from each other in controllability.
Yeah but it's disappointing they'd waste a precious slot on a clone. Especially after they made a big statement saying they would cut back on clones.
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SHSL Ultimate Hope wrote:
Smash already has too many Fire Emblem characters that its stupid. Not even the rest of the different game series in the game have that many characters. I wish instead of announcing more fire emblem characters which is a waste of space and just introduce new characters from different series. Also way too many swordsman type fighters in Smash that it is stupid. Bad move on Nintendo's part this time.
It's now on par with the Mario (Excluding DK's sub-series and Yoshi) and Pokemon series in terms of how many are in SSB4, so it's not really too many. (And if Gannondorf's back in, it's on par with the Zelda series too.)
It seems 4's the max for characters of each series. Which'd be upsetting if that meant no Jigglypuff...
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Mijumaru wrote:
I'm Hoping Lucina isn't a direct clone of Marth. She does have some of Chrom's moves she could use. (Or even just make some up, with the vast detail this game's got, it'd be really disappointing if there are even characters with the same movesets.)
It's now on par with the Mario (Excluding DK's sub-series and Yoshi) and Pokemon series in terms of how many are in SSB4, so it's not really too many. (And if Gannondorf's back in, it's on par with the Zelda series too.)
It seems 4's the max for characters of each series. Which'd be upsetting if that meant no Jigglypuff...
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Smash already has too many Fire Emblem characters that its stupid. Not even the rest of the different game series in the game have that many characters. I wish instead of announcing more fire emblem characters which is a waste of space and just introduce new characters from different series. Also way too many swordsman type fighters in Smash that it is stupid. Bad move on Nintendo's part this time.
It's now on par with the Mario (Excluding DK's sub-series and Yoshi) and Pokemon series in terms of how many are in SSB4, so it's not really too many. (And if Gannondorf's back in, it's on par with the Zelda series too.)
It seems 4's the max for characters of each series. Which'd be upsetting if that meant no Jigglypuff...
I just wish that isn't of introducing so many characters from one series, they should just use those spaces to introduce different characters from different series. I would like to see a whole lot more diversity in a smash game.
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Mario
Pokemon
Zelda
Metroid
F-Zero
Fire Emblem
"Wii" series
Game and Watch
Punch Out
Animal Crossing
Pikmin
Star Fox
Kid Icarus
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Tell me. What other significant Nintendo IPs aren't represented on this list?
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SHSL Ultimate Hope wrote:
Smash already has too many Fire Emblem characters that its stupid. Not even the rest of the different game series in the game have that many characters.
Um, what? Several other franchises included here have just as many representatives, if not more.
- Mario (Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser and now Rosalina & Luma)
- Zelda (Link, Zelda, Sheik and presumably Ganondorf)
- Pokémon (Pikachu, Charizard, Lucario, Greninja)
It's not like having four reps is a first-time thing, either.
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I wish instead of announcing more fire emblem characters which is a waste of space and just introduce new characters from different series. Also way too many swordsman type fighters in Smash that it is stupid. Bad move on Nintendo's part this time.
Yes, it's a total mistake that they include characters you don't want. What a travesty![/sarcasm]
In all seriousness, there's no need to be so offended that one of Nintendo's franchises got more characters. If it bugs you that much, just don't use them. Problem solved. It's not like they took up allocated space for any other character.
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kwando1313 wrote:
Eh. Honestly, the only one who feels "same-y" is Lucina. All the other characters look quite different from each other in controllability.
Yeah but it's disappointing they'd waste a precious slot on a clone. Especially after they made a big statement saying they would cut back on clones.
I only recall Sakurai mentioning "trimming the roster", not anything about cutting clones in particular. And while Lucina does look to play similarly to Marth, we should probably wait for a more detailed analysis of her moves to make a final call on "clone" status. And of course, there's always custom move sets to alter her to your liking.
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Blademaster_Orca wrote:
SHSL Ultimate Hope wrote:
I wish instead of announcing more fire emblem characters which is a waste of space and just introduce new characters from different series. Also way too many swordsman type fighters in Smash that it is stupid. Bad move on Nintendo's part this time.
Yes, it's a total mistake that they include characters you don't want. What a travesty! *sarcasm*
Oh yeah because your so smart and know how to read well *sarcasm*
I'm upset because of announcing characters from other series instead they announce more Fire Emblem characters since its a waste of space because A) Too many swordsman type characters B) Its bad enough that as you said there are too many repetative characters from different series.
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Basically, the point is... So what? The roster is as it is. Your whining and complaining here isn't going to do anything. And, you know what? Fire Emblem is quite a popular series now, because of Awakening. Of course they're going to capitalize on its success. And the swordsmen, for the most part, all play differently. Which is quite important. And, once again, I pose you the most important question: What are these significant Nintendo series that aren't currently being represented?
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I only recall Sakurai mentioning "trimming the roster", not anything about cutting clones in particular. And while Lucina does look to play similarly to Marth, we should probably wait for a more detailed analysis of her moves to make a final call on "clone" status. And of course, there's always custom move sets to alter her to your liking.
Hmm I'd heard the trimming was being done by removing clones, still I wouldn't consider 'custom move' sets enough to distinguish her from Marth because odds are if she is a true 'clone' he'll have the same custom move sets.
It just feels like it's a step backwards when Brawl did a pretty good job removing clones.
Though yes 4 is a high (but not unprecedented) number of representatives for a series so I don't think it's so bad. 5 would be unprecedented but 4 isn't bad, especially given how popular Awakening was that they'd put in more Fire Emblem representatives. Though is Lucina does turn out to be a clone or worse a reskin it'd really only be like 3 Fire Emblem representatives.
Really they've not done anything especially wrong (hell I think I said I'd have liked to see a magic-based character from Fire Emblem earlier) I just guess I was more excited for
Plus Generic Robin is boring Robin, I want my old wisened Wakka avatar!
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Aaaaand you completely ignored my question. Good job. (Y)
Basically, the point is... So what? The roster is as it is. Your whining and complaining here isn't going to do anything. And, you know what? Fire Emblem is quite a popular series now, because of Awakening. Of course they're going to capitalize on its success. And the swordsmen, for the most part, all play differently. Which is quite important. And, once again, I pose you the most important question: What are these significant Nintendo series that aren't currently being represented?
Basically, the point is... So what? The roster is as it is. Your whining and complaining here isn't going to do anything. And, you know what? Fire Emblem is quite a popular series now, because of Awakening. Of course they're going to capitalize on its success. And the swordsmen, for the most part, all play differently. Which is quite important. And, once again, I pose you the most important question: What are these significant Nintendo series that aren't currently being represented?
Here is your answer since your have fire emblem up your ass
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Klonoahedgehog wrote:
Did i miss something? When did Fire Emblem become one of Nintendo's biggest ip's? Seriously 4 characters?
Since the SSB4 character reveal trailer is when!
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Did i miss something? When did Fire Emblem become one of Nintendo's biggest ip's? Seriously 4 characters?
Since Awakening saved the franchise and sold like crack.
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kwando1313 wrote:
Aaaaand you completely ignored my question. Good job. (Y)
Basically, the point is... So what? The roster is as it is. Your whining and complaining here isn't going to do anything. And, you know what? Fire Emblem is quite a popular series now, because of Awakening. Of course they're going to capitalize on its success. And the swordsmen, for the most part, all play differently. Which is quite important. And, once again, I pose you the most important question: What are these significant Nintendo series that aren't currently being represented?
Basically, the point is... So what? The roster is as it is. Your whining and complaining here isn't going to do anything. And, you know what? Fire Emblem is quite a popular series now, because of Awakening. Of course they're going to capitalize on its success. And the swordsmen, for the most part, all play differently. Which is quite important. And, once again, I pose you the most important question: What are these significant Nintendo series that aren't currently being represented?
Here is your answer since your have fire emblem up your ass
Someone here sounds really salty~
Aaaaand looking at that list just further confirms what I thought: Every major Nintendo IP has been convered in Smash. I'm, of course, excluding ones that haven't been officially announced, but will all but guaranteed be back in (like Ness and Wario).
Honestly, what on that list do you think is recognizable and significant to Nintendo that isn't in Smash as a playable character yet? Starfy? Custom-Robo? Advance Wars? Rythym Heaven? Like, all these are series which just aren't important or significant to Nintendo really in any way.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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apart from the NES/SNES only IPs nintendo's made like Famicom Detective Club which did get a trophy in Melee)
And don't forget Satellaview! FamiTan was actually a fairly big IP for new Nintendo hardware (Disk System, Nintendo Power rewritable cartridges, Satellaview) and I had kinda hoped they would bring it back with the Wii, but alas... but I'd also be happy if Protagonist/Ayumi would appear as playable characters in Smash, in a Phoenix Wright way ;P
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Pierre wrote:
Klonoahedgehog wrote:
Did i miss something? When did Fire Emblem become one of Nintendo's biggest ip's? Seriously 4 characters?
Since Awakening saved the franchise and sold like crack.
Well that's the only answer, really. Plus, Mr. Sakurai said something about wanting to include three Fire Emblem representatives in Brawl.
Also, I'd like to point out that Lucina's profile on the Smash Bros website looks different from other newcomers; it's possible she'll just be an alternative costume of Marth (that question mark at her name presentation of badassery bothers me), but I really hope she won't be. Just because there are a lot of people wielding swords doesn't mean they can't come up with diverse movesets, so I don't think there's any reason to worry.
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>mfw all this rage
>mfw people can't appreciate a character that wasn't the one they were shitting themselves over.
>mfw new clone characters
>mfw even if the game had every character they wanted, it still wouldn't make the WiiU sell
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SHSL Ultimate Hope wrote:
Let's not get nasty, now. Argue your opinion all you want, but keep it civil.
kwando1313 wrote:
Someone here sounds really salty~
Aaaaand looking at that list just further confirms what I thought: Every major Nintendo IP has been convered in Smash. I'm, of course, excluding ones that haven't been officially announced, but will all but guaranteed be back in (like Ness and Wario).
Honestly, what on that list do you think is recognizable and significant to Nintendo that isn't in Smash as a playable character yet? Starfy? Custom-Robo? Advance Wars? Rythym Heaven? Like, all these are series which just aren't important or significant to Nintendo really in any way.
Aaaaand looking at that list just further confirms what I thought: Every major Nintendo IP has been convered in Smash. I'm, of course, excluding ones that haven't been officially announced, but will all but guaranteed be back in (like Ness and Wario).
Honestly, what on that list do you think is recognizable and significant to Nintendo that isn't in Smash as a playable character yet? Starfy? Custom-Robo? Advance Wars? Rythym Heaven? Like, all these are series which just aren't important or significant to Nintendo really in any way.
Not to mention that even when talking about lesser IPs, at least most of those do still get plenty of representation through trophies, and particularly assist trophies. Just look at the many IPs represented by ATs in Brawl:
Along with the playable characters that's almost every Nintendo series in one way or another, and even a couple of third parties too.
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Also, I'd like to point out that Lucina's profile on the Smash Bros website looks different from other newcomers; it's possible she'll just be an alternative costume of Marth (that question mark at her name presentation of badassery bothers me), but I really hope she won't be. Just because there are a lot of people wielding swords doesn't mean they can't come up with diverse movesets, so I don't think there's any reason to worry.
Up to this point, though, alternate character skins (i.e., Wii Fit Trainer and Robin) have been kept within the same page for the character, and are just an alternate gender for that same character, whereas Lucina and Marth are completely separate characters. And while Lucina doesn't have the extended box the other newcomers do, that may be due to a stylistic choice for the website than anything else, as otherwise it would look strange to just have CF and Ike's boxes alone in the first row.
As for the question mark during the trailer, I suspect that has to be misdirection by Sakurai; admittedly the trailer was focused on Robin more than anyone, so it was more to throw us off in terms of who the trailer was really focusing on than anything. Not to mention all the buildup of this announcement beforehand, having the only character to be revealed be Lucina would've been rather shocking. Kind of like what he did with Greninja in his trailer, to make it kind of look like Mewtwo before the water shuriken.
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But seriously, people thought that looked like Mewtwo? How? The second I saw him I was like "oh wow, Greninja!".
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I hope you're right, like you tend to be.
But seriously, people thought that looked like Mewtwo? How? The second I saw him I was like "oh wow, Greninja!".
But seriously, people thought that looked like Mewtwo? How? The second I saw him I was like "oh wow, Greninja!".
Expectations shaping perceptions.
People had expected Mewtwo to be in it since after X and Y he's an iconic figure since he returned in it with a new Megaform to boot.
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