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Humanity is flawed, but I think you're going to far with it. Don't focus on being human as bad, focus on those bad things that humans do. Blame people for those things, not for being human. Likewise, feel guilty for the bad things you've done, not simply for being born human. To think of humanity as bad just for being human is like blaming black people for being black except on a bigger scale. You shouldn't blame them for being born a certain way, just blame them for what they do.

(How are we discussing philosophy in a TWEWY thread?)

I never said I hated Humans just cause I am one. Or at least I didn't mean to say it. And I don't really hate them because I'm human.

And there are acceptions to the rule. If all or most of the badguys are also human, I'm fine with it. Like Metal Gear Solid. That game has mostly human protagonists and antagonists. Eh... wait. One more rule. Even if both the goodguys and the badguys are mostly human, I won't play ANY game, regardless of who's good and bad, if they are 3-D shooters. I guess I just never liked shooters.
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Okay then.

Anybody know how I can get Orichalcum? D: I'm trying to get Scarletite to get Ultimate, but it's not working... Which Noise drops Orichalcum?

Dropped by: 04 HU, 32 U, 46 H

for reference, the above site is the best place for info on what drops what, where to get threads, etc. etc.

to the guy who doesn't like humans: lol.


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Besides, what difference would a summon make? There are still humans.

Actually, he meant summons of monsters.
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Besides, what difference would a summon make? There are still humans.

Actually, I meant summons of monsters.


Wait, YOU!?!

But exactly. Being able to summon monsters, like in Final Fantasy is basically all I ask for, if not anything else.
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I already fixed that before you posted, Fironic.

It's been said before, but you shouldn't hate humans just because of what they did to the world. Yes, they have their flaws, but that doesn't mean they deserve hate, or even slight disdane. Sure, you can hate those humans who destroy the environment, but you shouldn't hate humans as a whole because of those guys.
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Anyone have the remix album? (I don't - I've just listened on YouTube) It has its share of good and bad songs, but the album. OMGthealbum. I love that thing. It was really cool how the artwork was superimposed on top of photographs. Especially the mural. Yeeees.

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It's only half of the picture (the other side has a bunch of text), but I thought it was the most awesome thing ever, considering how hard it is to find good shots of the CAT mural. And it has a realish look to it. (well, it does when you have the full image.)
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Anyone have the remix album? (I don't - I've just listened on YouTube) It has its share of good and bad songs, but the album. OMGthealbum. I love that thing. It was really cool how the artwork was superimposed on top of photographs. Especially the mural. Yeeees.

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It's only half of the picture (the other side has a bunch of text), but I thought it was the most awesome thing ever, considering how hard it is to find good shots of the CAT mural. And it has a realish look to it. (well, it does when you have the full image.)


It's awesome how Shibuya is the setting in the game. I originally wanted to visit Shibuya, so playing the game gave me a bit about what Shibuya's really like. Though it's not 104, it's 109. xD
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Tower(Towa) Records was the one that always amused me. Too bad all the shops closed down over here...
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Hm? Do you live near Shibuya? D:
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Fironic wrote:
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Besides, what difference would a summon make? There are still humans.

Actually, I meant summons of monsters.


Wait, YOU!?!

But exactly. Being able to summon monsters, like in Final Fantasy is basically all I ask for, if not anything else.

No, you can't. And if you're not going to play this game just because the characters are human, then... Well, I don't think I'll finish that sentance... (And stop saying "they.")

There ARE characters, however, that transcend human. Just calling them human doesn't seem appropriate. But they're human-like, at least.
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Huh? No... Tower Records is still up in Shibuya. All of the ones in the United States have closed down.
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The remix album was fantastic~


I have this feeling that we'll never see a wonderful game like this again. That's too bad...it's a masterpiece.
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That's what I thought. If you want, later I can scan all the pics from the remix album if it hasn't been done already. I'm too lazy to look now, though.
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I never said I hated Humans just cause I am one. Or at least I didn't mean to say it. And I don't really hate them because I'm human.

And there are acceptions to the rule. If all or most of the badguys are also human, I'm fine with it. Like Metal Gear Solid. That game has mostly human protagonists and antagonists. Eh... wait. One more rule. Even if both the goodguys and the badguys are mostly human, I won't play ANY game, regardless of who's good and bad, if they are 3-D shooters. I guess I just never liked shooters.


You fight monsters, and the bad guys can often transform into monsters, but other than that everyone's human (though a lot of the charecters are actually dead, and are essentially like ghosts or something). I could see someone having an issue with you being human and mostly fighting animals or something if they're really into animal rights stuff or something.

As for shooters, do you mean 3-D or 3rd Person? Because if it's just 3-D shooters, you're missing out on some awesome stuff (like HALF LIFE 2!).

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Wait, YOU!?!

But exactly. Being able to summon monsters, like in Final Fantasy is basically all I ask for, if not anything else.


How would that work in the game though? This is very differant than Final Fantasy, though technically there is at least one move that uses a monster to attack (and some special attacks involve this stuffed animal).
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I never said I hated Humans just cause I am one. Or at least I didn't mean to say it. And I don't really hate them because I'm human.

And there are acceptions to the rule. If all or most of the badguys are also human, I'm fine with it. Like Metal Gear Solid. That game has mostly human protagonists and antagonists. Eh... wait. One more rule. Even if both the goodguys and the badguys are mostly human, I won't play ANY game, regardless of who's good and bad, if they are 3-D shooters. I guess I just never liked shooters.


You fight monsters, and the bad guys can often transform into monsters, but other than that everyone's human (though a lot of the charecters are actually dead, and are essentially like ghosts or something). I could see someone having an issue with you being human and mostly fighting animals or something if they're really into animal rights stuff or something.

As for shooters, do you mean 3-D or 3rd Person? Because if it's just 3-D shooters, you're missing out on some awesome stuff (like HALF LIFE 2!).

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Wait, YOU!?!

But exactly. Being able to summon monsters, like in Final Fantasy is basically all I ask for, if not anything else.


How would that work in the game though? This is very differant than Final Fantasy, though technically there is at least one move that uses a monster to attack (and some special attacks involve this stuffed animal).

Yes, but what about goodguys? Can they transform? Only one can. Rythem. But I hear she goes back to being permanately human. Lame. And ghosts and zombies don't cound in my opinion. For me to like a character, it has to look nothing like a human, or be able to change at will. I will say though, Mr. Mew (The stuffed animal you mentioned) looks kinda cute. Also...
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I could see someone having an issue with you being human and mostly fighting animals or something if they're really into animal rights stuff or something.

As for shooters, do you mean 3-D or 3rd Person? Because if it's just 3-D shooters, you're missing out on some awesome stuff (like HALF LIFE 2!).

That above paragraph is the reason I hate the Megaman X series. Zero is mildly tolerable because of the Cyber elves. Also, no, I don't like 3-D shooters at all.
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Spoiler: About "Rhythm" (actually the name is Rhyme)
She dies by sacrificing herself to save her brother (She was a ghost but she died in that form) and thus became a "noise" or a mindless monster. Beat (her brother) wants to change her back. You do get to use her noise form as an attack if you want, but story wise she does become normal again. She didn't change at will, she changed because she died.

And now that I think about it, Shiki (your 1st partner) uses Mr. Mew to attack.

But I just don't have an issue with the human/non-human thing.

Another thing to remember though is that you are on an Ace Attorney forum, and Ace Attorney, for the most part is about people, with a few occasional animals appearing.

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Ironic that the main character in TWEWY also hates people.
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Wow, Fironic, you're pretty narrow-minded, aren't you?

I don't think you deserve to play this fantastic game.
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Wow, Fironic, you're pretty narrow-minded, aren't you?

I don't think you deserve to play this fantastic game.


Assuming you were being serious, I agree. o.o

ANYWAY I'm trying to get the secret report for Beat, Day 2 right now ... the giant elephant boss noise thing keeps killing me.
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Another thing to remember though is that you are on an Ace Attorney forum, and Ace Attorney, for the most part is about people, with a few occasional animals appearing.

Like I said, if the characters only limit to humans, good and bad, with maybe a few non humans, I'm fine with the game.

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Wow, Fironic, you're pretty narrow-minded, aren't you?

Well it's just that great games with Non-Human goodguys are dieing. Pokemon, Sonic, Kirby, and other games like that are dieing. But the games staring HUMANS are still going strong.
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As I said, there are characters that go beyond human, but always take a human-like appearence.

Define, "human."
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Fironic wrote:
Well it's just that great games with Non-Human goodguys are dieing. Pokemon, Sonic, Kirby, and other games like that are dieing. But the games staring HUMANS are still going strong.


Well yeah, that's true, but it kinda makes sense that humans mostly make games that are about humans ...
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Well it's just that great games with Non-Human goodguys are dieing. Pokemon, Sonic, Kirby, and other games like that are dieing. But the games staring HUMANS are still going strong.

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Seventeen, no joke.
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Please answer my question.

How do you define "human"?
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This is a little confusing. What human/non-human ratios are bad exactly?
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Just let Fironic go, people. We shouldn't flame people for stating their opinions, ja?
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I just picked up The World Ends with You a few days while I was away and I haven't started it yet. However, I have read the game manual and I understand most of the combat like the pin system. But I don't understand the top screen combat and the combo map system. Does the game have like a tutorial level or something?

Also, what's the point to "adjusting" your level? I know that it changes the drop rates but does it effect your stats? :yuusaku:

Sorry for sounding so noobish... :payne:
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I just picked up The World Ends with You a few days while I was away and I haven't started it yet. However, I have read the game manual and I understand most of the combat like the pin system. But I don't understand the top screen combat and the combo map system. Does the game have like a tutorial level or something?

Also, what's the point to "adjusting" your level? I know that it changes the drop rates but does it effect your stats? :yuusaku:

Sorry for sounding so noobish... :payne:

yeah, the first two days basically explain everything to you about combat.

and it changes the drop rate and your HP, but not your attack or defense.
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I just picked up The World Ends with You a few days while I was away and I haven't started it yet. However, I have read the game manual and I understand most of the combat like the pin system. But I don't understand the top screen combat and the combo map system. Does the game have like a tutorial level or something?


It gives you a tutorial for each partner, and lets you try as many times as you need to on each one. It shouldn't take long if you already know how to use the pins.

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Also, what's the point to "adjusting" your level? I know that it changes the drop rates but does it effect your stats? :yuusaku:


It lowers your HP, but that's it. Food/medicine and clothes are the only way to affect your other stats.
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TopHatz reporting :godot: (I'm getting full of myself, sorry.)

The game is getting too easy. :yogi: I play on ultimate, even with my levels minus 10 or more, but it's still too easy. Maybe because I'm at star level, but, I should wait till I battle Kitaniji, Anguis, Draco, Ultimate enemy, and the OH SHI-Ultimate chain battle on another day.....(I'm replaying the game again and again.) :yuusaku:

But, I'd say that, Another day is extremely fun, even though I fail at Tin Pin. :sadshoe: Onto spoilers~

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Oh god, what the hell were the creators smoking when they came up with this extra? So many .....strange things...... List time. :godot:
1. TIN PIN:Seriously, the hell? :zenitora:
2. Neku's obsession with #1: Uhm, no... :yuusaku:
3. Mrs. K?: Who'd she marry? Or, wait? In the main part, is she married there too? Who her hubby? :meekins:
4. Crayon warriors: I burst out laughing....DIBS ON RAINBOW! :gant:
5.Sho: Wait, was Sho Ken Doi's SON? :meekins: :meekins: And the Vigilantism comment? Ahahaha..Irony. :gant:
6. Sanae's man boobs. :beef:
and that's prettty much my concerns..Except for Neku's steroid comment. I didn't get it at first. I thoght "Brains....?" :adrian: Then I realized......"OH." :beef:


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Sanae's...man-boobs? What? Where did you hear that?
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The game is getting too easy. :yogi: I play on ultimate, even with my levels minus 10 or more, but it's still too easy. Maybe because I'm at star level, but, I should wait till I battle Kitaniji, Anguis, Draco, Ultimate enemy, and the OH SHI-Ultimate chain battle on another day.....(I'm replaying the game again and again.) :yuusaku:

yeah, it's hilariously easy for me now. i just play ultimate on level 25 or less.
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Sanae's...man-boobs? What? Where did you hear that?

I want to know, too. (...Or maybe I don't.)

And I know this is over, but was this really the best thread to argue about human leads in video games? And isn't it rather foolish to skip over a game like TWEWY just because the main characters are human?
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Fironic wrote:
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Besides, what difference would a summon make? There are still humans.

Actually, I meant summons of monsters.


Wait, YOU!?!

But exactly. Being able to summon monsters, like in Final Fantasy is basically all I ask for, if not anything else.


...

If you hate not being able to 'summon monsters' in TWEWY, to put it politely, why are you here? If you want to summon monsters in a game, go play Final Fantasy. :D
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How do you define "human"?

Humans are the tall mammels that wear clothes, drive cars, live in citys, and are the lords and masters of this dump of a planet alot of them are turning it into. I am not good at explaining things. Humans have the ability of speech, invention, sports, and other stuff. I know what they are, but explaining stuff is hard.

Even if they are NOT fully human, like a ghost, or Dr. Who, if they look ANYTHING like a human, I consider them not cool. In otherwords, I think of the design of humans as boring.

And it's not that a game has to have summoning spells for me to like it very much, it's that a game has to have some form of non-human protagonist that actually looks completely non-human. Ghosts and anything that takes the form of a human doesn't count.

And let's get something straight. I never said I hated this game, I said I wasn't interested in buying the game. Especially when I read Noises, that take the form of mostly animals, are mindless creatures. That is not true in any way, shape, or form in real life. Sure, not as smart as humans, but certainly not mindless. I mean sure, maybe bugs and reptiles, but some sea life and other mammles are able to think and also have emotions. So to say Noises are these "Mindless" creatures is just insulting torwards animals.
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Fironic, I will say this nicely. You can think whatever you want, but if it's something we don't want to hear, and even sounds like bullshit, keep it to yourself. And BIG FLIPPING DEAL! Just because humans are the only goodguys doesn't mean it should take away most of the fun of the game.
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Especially when I read Noises, that take the form of mostly animals, are mindless creatures. That is not true in any way, shape, or form in real life. Sure, not as smart as humans, but certainly not mindless. I mean sure, maybe bugs and reptiles, but some sea life and other mammles are able to think and also have emotions. So to say Noises are these "Mindless" creatures is just insulting torwards animals.


It's not like they are real animals though. What you fight are in some dimension in-between the real world and the ghost world, so things like that don't necessarily apply.

And what differance does a summon make? What, a monster that appears for a bit to do some damage at the humans' command but probably isn't very important to the story?

If you're gonna get into it being cruel to animals, didn't you mention Pokemon before? That's a game about forcing innocent animals to fight each other.
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Justified, it's natural for Pokemon to fight against each other.

That and they never truly get hurt in fighting. Their natural powers seem resistant to actually hurting someone. I mean, look at the characters that get shocked in the anime canon and don't get truly hurt.

It's only actual harm when someone actually tampers with the natural law or something like using a machine to enhance powers.
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Watatata~! wrote:
Justified, it's natural for Pokemon to fight against each other.

That and they never truly get hurt in fighting.


Noise aren't that peaceful....

And again, they are mindless monsters.
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