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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
OfflineAce Attorney Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:41 pm
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Phoenix Soul wrote:

Spoiler: Luna
Sorry if this is a silly question, what exactly was her medical licence in? She seemed to be quite evasive when it came up.


Spoiler: Response
I am pretty sure she never gave a straight answer. Maybe that'll be important in the next game?
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
OfflineAce Attorney Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:48 pm
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Can you save during the novel sections, not just the puzzle rooms? :)
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
OfflineAce Attorney Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:24 pm
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You can save at any time. Just avoid saving in any puzzle room, whether you are in puzzle or novel mode. ESPECIALLY avoid saving in the PEC. I don't know if any other rooms are corrupt save prone, but I did get one or two total freezes (not while saving) on my second playthrough. Can't remember if it froze a second time or not, but the first time was in the middle of a puzzle.

Spoiler: Which puzzle? Not much of a spoiler, but...
The dice puzzle in the library. Froze while moving one of the dice around.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
OfflineAce Attorney Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:31 pm
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So they have to wait until VLR is judged a success before they decided on releasing No3 over here?
Not read anything ;) But BTW, is there any specific "order" I should do VLR in, starting in a certain place? Whats the best way to experience it?


I suggest going from left to right, while avoiding completely the right-most branch, then making your way back from right to left, before tackling the true ending route.
But in any way, I strongly suggest you do not start with the right-most branch, because that's the route for the true ending, and there'll be tons of locks anyway. Better to save that one for last in my opinion.

About the crashes : my game didn't crash once (even though the demo sort of did, but I could still write stuff on the memo pad), though I avoided saving anywhere near the PEC, or inside puzzle rooms during novel/puzzle parts. That being said, I did save once in the room with the dart puzzle, during the escape section, and it didn't crash/corrupt my save. Maybe I was just lucky? I have the eShop version by the way, though I doubt it changes much since the data is the same.

About Luna :
Spoiler: Ending spoilers, do not read if you don't know what's that pendant she's wearing :p
Well, I'm pretty sure she DOESN'T have a medical licence. She's a GAULEM, with access to the mainframe. She probably came up with that medical licence idea so not as to arouse suspicion. That way, she could use the ADAM (and any other medical equipment, like the syringe-gun), know a lot of about viral infections and all, without arousing suspicion.


Spoiler: Not really a spoiler
Please let Luna be in the next game ;__;
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
OfflineAce Attorney Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:41 pm
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There's really nothing predictable about how it crashes. I saved in the PEC several times without issue before becoming aware of the save corruption glitch. Of course, saving in the PEC during the novel section, after being aware that the PEC during a puzzle section was prone to crashing, was my downfall. :sadshoe:

It's just that the puzzle rooms, especially the PEC, can be prone to crashing. If that happens when saving (or in my case, upon exit after saving), you're out of luck. Crashing while playing isn't really much of an issue because you can just speed through to catch up.

Not to say it happens often in any sense; crashes seem to be sporadic. You may encounter one, a few, or none at all.

By the way, I'm talking about the 3DS version. The Vita version is less prone to crashing from what I can tell, though it can still have issues with the PEC.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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L~A wrote:
Spoiler: Not really a spoiler
Please let Luna be in the next game ;__;


Spoiler:
Do you mean real Luna or human Luna? Human Luna is already confirmed for the third game.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
OfflineAce Attorney Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:06 pm
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Well, that's something I didn't get.

Spoiler: Luna spoilerz
When exactly do they show/say/hint Luna's human? I mean, that there is a human version of her? I totally didn't notice anything about that. Or is it simply that she's only a robot in the first main branch?


If yes, then my previous spoiler response to blahmoomoo is totally moo-t :shoe:
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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L~A wrote:
my previous spoiler response to blahmoomoo is totally moo-t :shoe:


:redd:

Spoiler: Luna
I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that Luna is supposed to be the person heard on the recording of the Mars simulation mission (where Vol. 3 is supposed to take place). But... I can't remember where it was stated in the game. Maybe it was implied, perhaps in the all hard ending.

Luna is not human during VLR's nonary game.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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blahmoomoo wrote:
L~A wrote:
my previous spoiler response to blahmoomoo is totally moo-t :shoe:


:redd:

Spoiler: Luna
I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that Luna is supposed to be the person heard on the recording of the Mars simulation mission (where Vol. 3 is supposed to take place). But... I can't remember where it was stated in the game. Maybe it was implied, perhaps in the all hard ending.

Luna is not human during VLR's nonary game.


Spoiler:
The woman has Luna's voice actress.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Lusankya wrote:
blahmoomoo wrote:
L~A wrote:
my previous spoiler response to blahmoomoo is totally moo-t :shoe:


:redd:

Spoiler: Luna
I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that Luna is supposed to be the person heard on the recording of the Mars simulation mission (where Vol. 3 is supposed to take place). But... I can't remember where it was stated in the game. Maybe it was implied, perhaps in the all hard ending.

Luna is not human during VLR's nonary game.


Spoiler:
The woman has Luna's voice actress.

Spoiler:
And Uchikoshi's confirmed Luna was based on the woman in the recording.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Spoiler:
He also said that Junpei spends the rest of his life searching for Akane but never finds her, so...
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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blahmoomoo wrote:
L~A wrote:
my previous spoiler response to blahmoomoo is totally moo-t :shoe:


:redd:

Spoiler: Luna
I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that Luna is supposed to be the person heard on the recording of the Mars simulation mission (where Vol. 3 is supposed to take place). But... I can't remember where it was stated in the game. Maybe it was implied, perhaps in the all hard ending.

Luna is not human during VLR's nonary game.


Oooooooh, I see.

Spoiler: Luna again
It's strange though, because I recognised Mamiko Noto's voice instantly, and I was actually surprised none of the character seemed to recognise Luna's voice. It seemed a bit too convenient to be nothing but a mere coincidence. Guess my point wasn't that moo-t after all, even though the real Luna probably HAS a medical licence. She just doesn't in VLR.

But yeah! Just realised that means Mamiko Noto WILL be in the next game. Oh, joy! :shoe: It was pretty much confirmed by Uchikoshi, but even more confirmations are always welcome!

That being said, I'd love to know why Zero decided to make a Gaulem with Luna's features. I'm starting to think she's the woman he tried to save in the past, and got his arms cut off trying to do so. That would explain Luna's behaviour during the Luna's ending, as he might have tried to make her as close to the 'original', as far as her personality is concerned.


Talking about the real ending, here's something I didn't quite understand :

Spoiler: True ending spoilahz
Why's Akane wearing 'Free the Soul' clothes, when you meet her during the real ending? I'm sure we'll get an explanation in the next game... I hope?
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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L~A wrote:
Spoiler: True ending spoilahz
Why's Akane wearing 'Free the Soul' clothes, when you meet her during the real ending? I'm sure we'll get an explanation in the next game... I hope?


Spoiler:
:beef: I didn't notice that! I can think of a few things, but that's just wild mass guessing. Most optimistic reason: she's wearing it to blend in. But I know it won't be that simple...

Oh, and Sigma making an exact duplicate of Luna like that sounds a bit creepy... But perhaps the reason she was specifically used in the game is because she had the most human-like AI and body of all the GAULEMs. Remember, she had red blood around her in Clover's ending.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Spoiler: Alice, True End Spoilers, 999
The reason for Alice's presence was quite flimsy (though I suppose the same could be said of Lotus), the ICE-9 issue seemed to be glossed over a bit, and certainly didn't seem to be resolved, and I thought it was interesting that Clover didn't mention the fact that she'd be held with a body that had been beaten to death.

I was thinking; we know that she really is a Government agent as per Clover, but that's really all we do know about her for certain. Do you think there's any possibility that she was lying about her past? I have the feeling that the identity of Left's killer is important, (am I remembering correctly that Left was also beaten to death), but all the known characters so far are too young to have been the killer, but Ace does mention that Alice's coffin was empty - if the ICE-9 affects Alice's aging, then she may have a connection to Left's murder, although I doubt she'd be the actual killer; beating someone to death doesn't really seem like it's her style.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Aw great... Tumblr changed their default style to an idiotic one, so it'll be really hard to follow the "tumblr ambidex game" tag when the next game starts. Harder because it ignored some posts. For example, I don't think I ever saw a post by ace or whoever went crazy from infection.

Also, it's gone the way of Twitter where eventually it goes "hurp, I can't search posts older than a few days"

Brilliant.

EDIT: You can completely ignore this post now because apparently I wasn't the only who thought that was idiotic. So it's back to normal now. Carry on.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Phoenix Soul wrote:
Spoiler: Alice, True End Spoilers, 999
The reason for Alice's presence was quite flimsy (though I suppose the same could be said of Lotus), the ICE-9 issue seemed to be glossed over a bit, and certainly didn't seem to be resolved, and I thought it was interesting that Clover didn't mention the fact that she'd be held with a body that had been beaten to death.

I was thinking; we know that she really is a Government agent as per Clover, but that's really all we do know about her for certain. Do you think there's any possibility that she was lying about her past? I have the feeling that the identity of Left's killer is important, (am I remembering correctly that Left was also beaten to death), but all the known characters so far are too young to have been the killer, but Ace does mention that Alice's coffin was empty - if the ICE-9 affects Alice's aging, then she may have a connection to Left's murder, although I doubt she'd be the actual killer; beating someone to death doesn't really seem like it's her style.

Spoiler: Alice
She definitely has the l33t math skillz to back up her claims about being a math genius. That makes me doubt she's Allice, since I doubt an Egyptian princess from thousands of years ago would be able to factor like that.

Also what about Clover and being held with a dead body? o.O
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Bad Player wrote:
Phoenix Soul wrote:
Spoiler: Alice, True End Spoilers, 999
The reason for Alice's presence was quite flimsy (though I suppose the same could be said of Lotus), the ICE-9 issue seemed to be glossed over a bit, and certainly didn't seem to be resolved, and I thought it was interesting that Clover didn't mention the fact that she'd be held with a body that had been beaten to death.

I was thinking; we know that she really is a Government agent as per Clover, but that's really all we do know about her for certain. Do you think there's any possibility that she was lying about her past? I have the feeling that the identity of Left's killer is important, (am I remembering correctly that Left was also beaten to death), but all the known characters so far are too young to have been the killer, but Ace does mention that Alice's coffin was empty - if the ICE-9 affects Alice's aging, then she may have a connection to Left's murder, although I doubt she'd be the actual killer; beating someone to death doesn't really seem like it's her style.

Spoiler: Alice
She definitely has the l33t math skillz to back up her claims about being a math genius. That makes me doubt she's Allice, since I doubt an Egyptian princess from thousands of years ago would be able to factor like that.

Also what about Clover and being held with a dead body? o.O


Spoiler: Clover
I think BP is talking about Alice's dead father, who was in the same room that Clover was kept in.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Is it confirmed the UK version still has the same save-bug as the US version (PEC room crashes?), I won't save in puzzle rooms though.
Still waiting for GAF to allow me on, theyre soooo slow, jeez.
By the time I'm on, everyone will have finished VLR and maybe talking about ZE3, but looking through the VLR thread at people's reactions (and the colourful GIF's) is hilarious :D
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Yup, the bug is present in the European version, even though I wasn't unfortunate enough to encounter it (I would've been mad if I had :p).
But yeah, as a reul of thumb : dont save in the PEC room, and that includes the novel sections; and avoid saving during an escape sequence if possible. If you do that, then you should be fine. Most people just beat the game without losing their saves, so don't worry too much about it, and just enjoy the game :)

And yeah, NeoGAF likes to take their sweet time :grossburg:

blahmoomoo wrote:
L~A wrote:
Spoiler: True ending spoilahz
Why's Akane wearing 'Free the Soul' clothes, when you meet her during the real ending? I'm sure we'll get an explanation in the next game... I hope?


Spoiler:
:beef: I didn't notice that! I can think of a few things, but that's just wild mass guessing. Most optimistic reason: she's wearing it to blend in. But I know it won't be that simple...

Oh, and Sigma making an exact duplicate of Luna like that sounds a bit creepy... But perhaps the reason she was specifically used in the game is because she had the most human-like AI and body of all the GAULEMs. Remember, she had red blood around her in Clover's ending.


Well, I was nice enough to take a little screenie, for those who can't access the 4th dimension (lol, u n00bs :shoe: ), or those afraid they'll end up spoiling themselves by ending up in the true ending of ZO3 :p
Spoiler: Troo endin' spoylahz
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Spoiler: True ending spoilers, thoughts edition
Well, personally, that was the very first thing I noticed, and it really unsettled me for a second. I was like 'W-what?!'. I'm sure we'll get the answer in the next game, but hey, I'm really curious about that. It's certainly not a coincidence.

About Luna : yeah, it's a tad creepy, I'll give you that. Then again, maybe the 'real' Luna doesn't even remotely look like VLR's Luna :p


Spoiler: Alice and Clover and AllIce
Yeah, her presence, along with Clover's, isn't well justified in my opinon. It somewhat felt like they needed another 'booby' character to replace Lotus. As for Clover, it was obvious fan service :p
But I'm sure we don't know quite as much as we should (understatement of the day). It's one thing that slighty bothered me in VLR, is that the presence of each character doesn't make as much sense as in 999, where it was pretty obvious, once you'd reached the true ending, why each character was there.

Another that slightly disappointed me is actually Alice herself. I mean, I loved the whole mummy mystery, especially with the ambiguous ending in 999. So it sort of ruined it for me to learn it was just a normal person :p
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Spoiler: My theory (999+VLR spoilers)
Because Akane is actually a part of Free the Souls.

And was behind the whole Mars Simulation thing.

Because she was Zero in 999.

And she was Zero in VLR.

And she's going to be Zero in ZE3.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Hum, I thought of that too, but quickly dismiss it, as I really can't picture Akane joining the very group which lead to her kidnaping and participating in the first Nonary Game (though not directly, though). Maybe as an infiltrated spy or some sorts, but I'm not sure it's actually possible... But what ''bothers'' me more is that it's way too obvious. I know they didn't show us those clothes for nothing, but I'd be surprised and/or a bit disappointed if that was something as blatantly ovious.

About Akane being Zero a third time... now, that wouldn't really surprise me, especially when you remember how she says 'the facility was full of traps'... but why would she be Zero, I got no idea.


About the save-killing glitch, looks like Capcom's more likely to localise AAI2 on the DS than Chunsoft to actually release a patch for the game :

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We've no news on whether we can expect a patch. Without code assets or the skills to develop a fix ourselves we can only rely on the developer and they've still not confirmed their intentions for the future.

We must remind everyone that being aware of the glitch is half the battle and should prevent you from being affected by it. As a precaution we advise not saving during puzzle rooms and especially the PEC (Pressure Exchange) room where the bug is reported. We are aware this is an inconvenience and we apolgise immensely for that. We are equally as upset that Virtue's Last Reward has suffered such an unfortunate bug and we hope it doesn't stop anyone from enjoying this exceptional game.


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I know I don't know (ha) much, but to me, it looks like Chunsoft doesn't even care about the glitch at all.
I mean, the bug is still present after the game's been launched in 3 different territories, and it looks like they're not even aware of it... (even though they are) :yuusaku:
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Sorry for the double-post, but I'd like to ask something to Bolt Storm.
First of all, I'd like to thank you for INADVERTENTLY uploading the soundtrack on YT... but would it be possible to be even more clumsy and upload it AS INADVERTENTLY AS EVER so we can download it (INADVERTENTLY of course, because we're all so clumsy we download stuff without even trying to...). The music is really great!

Thank you! (I know I should have posted this as a PM, but I know I'm not the only one who'd be INADVERTENTLY interested ;)) :shoe:
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Gamespot chose Virtue's Last Reward as handheld game of the year! I didn't expect VLR to get any mainstream recognition like this, considering visual novels are not very popular in the United States.

http://www.gamespot.com/shows/best-of-2 ... rs20121217
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Even though I really hate those 'best of xxx' kinda things (there's nothing more than for some people to say : hey, our opinion is better than yours!'), but I'm still glad for VLR! Hopefully, it'll help boost sales, which will convince Chunsoft there's really no need to worry, and they can start working on the next game pronto :p

But yeah, it's a surprising that a Visual Novel got such recognition, especially from a website such as Gamespot.
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I hope the next game will hopefully get a European release too.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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L~A wrote:
Sorry for the double-post, but I'd like to ask something to Bolt Storm.
First of all, I'd like to thank you for INADVERTENTLY uploading the soundtrack on YT... but would it be possible to be even more clumsy and upload it AS INADVERTENTLY AS EVER so we can download it (INADVERTENTLY of course, because we're all so clumsy we download stuff without even trying to...). The music is really great!

Thank you! (I know I should have posted this as a PM, but I know I'm not the only one who'd be INADVERTENTLY interested ;)) :shoe:


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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Enjoying the game a lot so far. I've gotten Tenmyouji's and Clover's endings. Glad it got a PAL release. So far I like Luna, Quark and K the most. Sigma is cool, but I prefer Junpei, he was such a dork. XD

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Anyway, the part where Dio tried to blame Quark for betraying Tenmyouji was priceless; his version of the events was basically the complete opposite of everything Quark wrote in his letter to Sigma in the Tenmyouji route and it showed just how dry Dio's imagination is.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
OfflineAce Attorney Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:42 pm
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Bolt Storm wrote:
L~A wrote:
Sorry for the double-post, but I'd like to ask something to Bolt Storm.
First of all, I'd like to thank you for INADVERTENTLY uploading the soundtrack on YT... but would it be possible to be even more clumsy and upload it AS INADVERTENTLY AS EVER so we can download it (INADVERTENTLY of course, because we're all so clumsy we download stuff without even trying to...). The music is really great!

Thank you! (I know I should have posted this as a PM, but I know I'm not the only one who'd be INADVERTENTLY interested ;)) :shoe:


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Thanks a lot! I went for the mp3 version, but I might grab the lossless version in a bit, too busy to download so many archives atm. I really wish I had grabbed the soundtrack online, that's the kind of great music I'm willing to import the soundtrack, actually.

But yeah, thanks a bunch for this, I really hope they keep the same guy for the 3r game music !

(That's funny, because I actually had to download a newer version of 7-zip for the unzipping to work, got some error before o_O)

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Enjoying the game a lot so far. I've gotten Tenmyouji's and Clover's endings. Glad it got a PAL release. So far I like Luna, Quark and K the most. Sigma is cool, but I prefer Junpei, he was such a dork. XD


You went straight for the Clover ending, or did you just get there without trying to?
Spoiler: Tenmyouji's ennding?
But yeah, Dio was pretty uninspired with his lie. Then again, he didn't need to be creative, all he had to do was to sow the seeds of doubt, and even an unspired lie would've done the trick.
Spoiler: Slight spoilers
I mean, he always try to cast doubt onto pretty much every single character in the game, as you'll soon see for yourself (don't want to spoil anything for you)
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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^ I've actually been playing for something like 20 hours; I've gotten far in most routes but the only ones I had finished when I wrote that were Clover's route and Tenmyouji's. Now I'm done with K's route as well. It's great that you can jump between the routes you've unlocked. And yeah, I wasn't trying to get the Clover ending first or anything.

Spoiler: About Dio
Yeah, every time the guy opens his mouth my impression of him gets worse. But his blatant desperation is pretty funny, such as the above mentioned lie.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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He he, I knew it'd have been real odd you'd manage to get those two endings on your first try... I'm not even sure if it's possible.

I got a questioon for those who have finished the game : what is Quark's presence for in the Nonary Game? I mean, besides the pretty obvious stuff anyone who's got half the endings would know.

Spoiler: All endings?
Personally, I thought he was sort of 'super-child', like very intelligent or something. The way Tenmyouji says ''he's not a normal child and refuses to explain why'', and Dio's comments on Quark, I thought there was more to it than just 'Oh, I insisted to bring Quark with me'.

I don't know if I'm the only one, but during the first routes (going from left to right, so staying in the first main branch), more than once I thought Quark was the one responsible for all the deaths (Luna, Alice, Clover, etc...). Because if you stay in the first main branch, Quark just disappears and you never find him (I believe), so I found that real fishy.

Of course, I wasn't suspectiing him of being Zero :shoe:
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Spoiler: Response
Well, I have no idea myself... but he is a perfect candidate for causing some of the stress required to let Sigma access the morphogenetic field. I guess he's just a smart kid. I would be surprised if he had anything to do with the third game, in any case.

EDIT: Although, kids are kind of rare in this distopian future...
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Spoiler: End game spoilers about Quark... sort of
Hmmm... you got a point here, about kids being rare in the VLR world (even though we don't really know much about the outisde world in the game.)

That reminds me, I'm not quite sure how the writer justifies so many characters presence merely by stating 'it was needed for Sigma to access to jump dimensions. It sort of feels like a bit uninspired... while making perfect sense. It's really weird, as it didn't bother me that much, all things considered. Just nipticking, I guess?

I actually liked how they didn't show us anything, made the whole thing even more impactful. Especially that scene with the TV News program, and the screams you can hear outside... that was such a simple but brilliant scene. A modern game would've gone all guns ablaze with some ultra dramatic cutscene, but VLR shows you don't need such things).

About the third game, I doubt Quark will be in it. As the writer stated on Twitter, he won't even be born when the game takes place (unless it doesn't take place entirely in the Mars simulation facility. Makes me wonder about the size/scope of the 3rd game. I certainly hope it'll be even more massive than VLR :p). And I don't think I'll really miss him, actually. He was a fine character, but I can't say I liked him a lot.


Oh, and there better be Clover in VLR, I mean...

Spoiler: Perv thoughts
Since she lost quite a lot of clothes with the jump from 999 to VLR, that means she'd be almost naked in the 3rd game. :hotti: As for Alice, if she were to be in the 3rd game, she'd just wear those X you see on pr0n magazines covers :shoe:


Spoiler: Mild ending spoilerz
But yeah, not gonna happen, just kidding :p. We already know they won't be in the next game.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Spoiler: Quark, Dio ending
One theory I've seen bandied about is that he's actually a clone of Left like Dio who somehow wound up outside of Brother's reach.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Just got my copy of the game. Merry Christmas everyone!
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Bolt Storm wrote:
Spoiler: Quark, Dio ending
One theory I've seen bandied about is that he's actually a clone of Left like Dio who somehow wound up outside of Brother's reach.


That's rather interesting theory, never heard of it before, though.
Spoiler: All endings?
But don't they say that clones grow up real fast? Or maybe I'm mistaking that with another game/series/film I've recently played/watched.

But then again, I don't see how they could explain that in the 3rd game, since he isn't supposed to be born yet... it'd certainly be highly ironical if it turned out that Junpei's ''kid'' was a clone of one the persons responsible for taking Akane away from him.

Maybe there's something special about Quark, but he isn't really a clone of Brother... but once again, it'd be hard to explain that within the 3rd game (maybe the epilogue? But that'd feel rather forced, in my opinion).


I got another question, it's about the cast and Nonary Game for the 3rd game.

Spoiler: VTrue ending spoilers
I personally think we'll get an almost brand new cast, besides the obvious characters and those who have already been confirmed. But I'm really wondering about the Nonary Game... We already know the building is trapped, that Sigma loses his arms... but why? Why is the building full of traps? And if there's a Nonary Game... why would it take place during a Mars simulation?

It's actually really intriguing, as I think the structure of the 3rd game will be a tad different from the first two games. I don't expect a Nonary Game per se, but I'm expecting some sort of sick game, more serious than VLR's Ambidex Edition (where there's less murders, and much less gruesome). I think the 'Game' will be much more violent, a bit like 999 (well, we alreay know there'll be at least one case of dismemberment).

A possile theory would be that Free the Soul somewhat 'hijacked' the Mars simulation for their own purpose... maybe they were even planning to send their new Human Race to Mars? In VLR, we learn that the incident was caused by Luna (at least, that's what she pretends in the recording, maybe she's just blaming herself). I wouldn't be surprised if FTS did what they did to get a hold of the Radical-6 virus.
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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A brand new cast... except for Phi, Sigma, Kyle, Luna, and whoever that was in the alternative end :nick:
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Bad Player wrote:
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A brand new cast... except for Phi, Sigma, Kyle, Luna, and whoever that was in the alternative end :nick:


Spoiler:
I was talking about the main cast, like the 9 people in 999 and VLR, not every single character in the game.

I forgot about Phi, but I don't think we'll get both Kyle/Sigma (had Sigma even created his 'clone' yet at the time?)
As for Luna, we already know it won't be the same Luna as VLR's. And what about that 'alternative end'? Don't remember any mysterious character in VLR that isn't shown at the end... or maybe I just have a lousy memory :p

Oh, but we actually forgot one of the most important characters : Junpei :p But I don't know if he'll be part of the main cast... That reminds me, I wonder who'll be our own character... Sigma? Junpei? An entirely new character? I'd put my money on Sigma (cf: what Akane tells you during the true trailer), but I wonder if we'll get to play as both characters. I don't know, maybe I still got GTAV 3-characters system stuyuck in my head, but I can't shake the feeling the next game could be even more massive than possibly VLR + 999 combined (not including the True Endings).


We shall see... in 2015, probably :shoe:
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L~A wrote:
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And what about that 'alternative end'? Don't remember any mysterious character in VLR that isn't shown at the end... or maybe I just have a lousy memory :p

I believe hes talking 'bout the

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Kyle. Or whoever it was at the ending, since I got it in that way that he is not Kyle after all. I never felt this confused at the ending..

But yeah, 2015 or something.
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Well, I finally ordered VLR from Amazon (damn the long waiting time for despatch) but not ordered the XL yet. I was thinking of getting a blue/black one but you can get a white one with Mario Kart 7 or Mario 3D Land free, but I dont really want a white one?
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Re: [PAL as well!] Virtue's Last Reward: 999 Sequel (3DS/VitTopic%20Title
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Zinle wrote:
L~A wrote:
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And what about that 'alternative end'? Don't remember any mysterious character in VLR that isn't shown at the end... or maybe I just have a lousy memory :p

I believe hes talking 'bout the

Spoiler:
Kyle. Or whoever it was at the ending, since I got it in that way that he is not Kyle after all. I never felt this confused at the ending..

But yeah, 2015 or something.
Please time....FLYYyyyyyyyyy...!!


Spoiler:
Hmmm... I always assumed (and still do) it's his clone, though I'm sure we barely know anything about him. He clearly has a purpose in the overall story, but I don't really know what, or how he'll appear in the next game... It'd be better if we knew exatly when it was going to take place exactly, other than 'during the Mars simulation incident'... Still got the feeling the entire game won't necessarily take place there and then.


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Well, I finally ordered VLR from Amazon (damn the long waiting time for despatch) but not ordered the XL yet. I was thinking of getting a blue/black one but you can get a white one with Mario Kart 7 or Mario 3D Land free, but I dont really want a white one?


Well, unless you realy, really do NOT want a white 3DS XL, I suppose you can go with the Blue x Black... but is the colour really worth missing a free game? :eh?:
Oh, and hurry up, you got till January the 15th to register your console and get (yet another) free game :gant:
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