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I mean, you don't watch a Robert de Niro movie and say "God, this guy looks and sounds exactly the same in every movie he's in, why doesn't he change it up a little?"
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PS: And on a personal note, I find Laura Bailey's voice is the worst to pick if they want a seductive one.
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CatMuto wrote:
An Actor is different from a Voice Actor. At least for me. A VA has to be able to alter his voice to various ranges, while an actor doesn't have to do that. He has to, well, act with his body and facial expression. The focus is somewhere completely else. OH GOD NO NOT THE ANTS! Noooooooo!!
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PS: And on a personal note, I find Laura Bailey's voice is the worst to pick if they want a seductive one.
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PS: And on a personal note, I find Laura Bailey's voice is the worst to pick if they want a seductive one.
Attending some voice acting panels in the past, I've found that that's not necessarily what companies are looking for. Sure, being able to have a range of voices is fantastic, but their main concern is you can act convincingly enough to sound natural when playing your parts.
As for Laura Bailey, I like her. I don't think the voice she does for Catherine is the right choice for being a seductress, but hearing her performance as Lust in FMA, I think she can pull it off well. In fact, my first exposure to her had to do with YuYu Hakusho as Keiko, DBZ as Young Trunks, and FMA as Lust, and considering those voices are each vastly different from each other and how well she pulled them off, it made me come to appreciate her talents. Granted, don't care for Young Trunks, but that's a different story.
Troy Baker, I personally like his acting. He does a very fine job at what he does. As for Yuri and Johnny, I think a lot of it has to do with voice direction. The people who hire them like the voices they use so they make them use them over and over again.
Honestly though, I find it hilarious that out of all the people everyone has mentioned that get typecasted with their voices, no one has yet to bring up Vic Mignogna. He's either grunts or Edward Elric in like everything. And heaven forbid he changes his voice to something other than Edward Elric's, the fangirls will not allow it.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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Honestly though, I find it hilarious that out of all the people everyone has mentioned that get typecasted with their voices, no one has yet to bring up Vic Mignogna. He's either grunts or Edward Elric in like everything. And heaven forbid he changes his voice to something other than Edward Elric's, the fangirls will not allow it.
Reminds me of the first time I picked up Persona 3. First time Junpei spoke, I was like, "Oh hi Ed, when did you become the janitor?"
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I think Vic voiced Hope?
You're thinking of Vincent Martella.
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You know, while I haven't finished Catherine yet, I do feel somewhat torn about Vincent as a character. On one hand, he's an average joe, who is working a new job, one that he seems to rather like and is in a steady relationship with a woman for a few years now, but with no big ambitions and happy to coast along.
So his reaction to his girlfriend (and, more to the point, his girlfriend's family) suddenly talking marriage and wanting a bigger commitment is quite shocking to him. Even more so when said girlfriend also says that she's late and might be pregnant - this is already a shock for him and a pretty big, realistic shock for most people who are in a relationship and have not really planned on having children (yet).
That part makes sense and is actually quite nice. Makes it somewhat easy to see things from his point of view. Relateable and all. And yet... his wishy-washy attitude regarding the Katherine and Catherine thing seems kind of... dumb. I mean, okay, Catherine personifies practically everything he wants in a perfect, sexy and slightly kinky, sadistic girlfriend, so maybe it's difficult to say no to a girl that is practically everything you want. And is willing to give it to you, too.
But Vincent's behavior later on is just appalling.
Aside from continuously not nutting up, there's also the potential doubt put into his mind that Katherine might be cheating on him. And during the conversation where he asks this (at least, in my current file where I am practically at maximum Law/Blue/Good/Commitment), he asks Katherine if there is "anything she needs to tell him".
...this coming from the guy who has been beating himself up over having cheated on his girlfriend for the last five nights, including the awkward lie of trying to stop her from seeing the other girl! And yet HE asks if there's anything SHE needs to tell HIM? What an asshole! Instead of asking "Is there anything you need to tell me?" he should say "This guy called and said he's your boyfriend... I'll be honest, I'm kinda... worried. But I wanted to ask you, since I don't believe what someone else says." Or better yet, if Katherine cheating is supposedly such a hug deal to him, why not flat out admit things about Catherine to her? At least then I could say, okay, he's an asshole with the cheating, but at least he isn't talking in a way to try to make himself look better.
I know spoilers and all for the game, so no need to somehow "correct" me on things. I'm just trying to express how confused this guy makes me feel. And not in a good way. Then again, maybe I'm pissed that his constant lack of balls just leads to more puzzles. Man up, decide already and no more nightmares!
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Oh, I'm gonna play the game and story again and all, to unlock every ending. Though given that I have read what happens in every ending, can't say the story makes more sense if I go the Catherine route.
Well, you're right about that the story doesn't make much more sense. It's just that the theme of the game is cheating with Vincent's struggle to remain faithful or giving in to lust. There are segments every day where you make 'decisions' based on how faithful or not you have been and he's nervous and doubtful in everyone of them.
Being tense, nervous and paranoid makes sense when you want to cheat.
When you have done nothing but being faithful and want to remain being faithful then this behavior makes no sense.
So I meant it more like: The chaos answers lead to the correct atmosphere for the game to be played.
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Then again, I overall tend to mute the music eventually. The classical pieces used are indeed nice, especially what I had on Stage 6 the Clock Tower... it's familiar but I can't remember the title... but it gets annoying after a while. And especially the boss stages. I don't need Mecha-Baby yelling Grggggggrrrraaaagh at me when it's trying to say Daddy or... that boob-butt thing moaning... it's distracting as anything!
Also, rapunzel... Aaaargh! I'm only in the 30ish Stages and I hope I can find a video guide that goes for all 64 Stages + the other 64 Stages. (So many puzzles... makes me want to cry...) Oh but I DID unlock Persona 4's Alone music! I just randomly got the "Drink till everyone else is gone" when, really, I had been TRYING to do the same thing all the time. I honestly thought Catherine entering the bar didn't count... given revelations and all.
Catherine Undub Gameplay. Fucking hell, I wish the game would've officially given me a dual audio option. Wakamoto makes Vincent actually seem pathetic, the way he should be. Troy Baker just... doesn't.
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Am I the only one who thinks that Pokémon battles became SLOWER the newer the games are?
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Things! Close-ups! Animations! Mega evolutions! Excitement!
(If you don't get the reference, I'm pointing out that having the battles quickly progressing was pushed aside in favor of special effects)
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Am I the only one who thinks that Pokémon battles became SLOWER the newer the games are?
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Eh... debatable. While I think the new gens are slower paced compared to the much older gens, Gen. 4, especially Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum are definitely the slowest paced I think. Compare it to Gen. 5, which feels much faster.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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Yeah, it's the special effects! Even when I turn them off (cause I really do not need to see bubbles when I pick bubbles as an attack) it feels like it's taking too long... then again, maybe my memory of the first few generations is wonky cause I tend to play those on emulators with a LOVELY speed up button on my side...
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Thought you hated pokemon? Why This?
I don't hate Pokémon. (Sure I hate the fact that they constantly bring out new games which are basically just the same game over and over, but with weirder designs for the
And I overall found the ideas with Team (Name)... dumb.
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Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
That's pretty much what Pokemon IS, so unless you're planning to start battling online, there's probably not much point in playing them.
^Yeah this Cat.
Only saying because I don't want to hear you complaining down the line that its a crap game with horrible flaws (that are purely subjective). When this is clearly a game you won't like from the outset.
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Pierre wrote:
Franzise Deauxnim wrote:
That's pretty much what Pokemon IS, so unless you're planning to start battling online, there's probably not much point in playing them.
^Yeah this Cat.
Only saying because I don't want to hear you complaining down the line that its a crap game with horrible flaws (that are purely subjective). When this is clearly a game you won't like from the outset.
Hmm sounds pretty much like what she always does with any game that somebody else likes.
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Hijikata Tōshirō wrote:
Hmm sounds pretty much like what she always does with any game that somebody else likes.
Shove it.
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Hmm sounds pretty much like what she always does with any game that somebody else likes.
Shove it.
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Hmm sounds pretty much like what she always does with any game that somebody else likes.
Shove it.
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Ey, I'm just stating facts
I do not hate every game that a person may like - fuck, I would be a hypocrite if I were to tell people on the Tales Of subforum that like Symphonia that I hate it, when I actually rather like the game!
And seriously, Danny, your swipes at me are getting A LITTLE annoying and frequent, doing them, especially over a span of months. I'm asking you nicely now: tone them down. I don't want to sound like a little kid that goes to her parents when someone's mean, but if you don't, I do feel that I will have to ask one of the moderators to please have a word with you about this.
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Please..... stop..... 
Get back on the topic please.
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CatMuto wrote:
I bought Pokemon White. I think I tried Black once but... I think the "big" difference is that the legendary one is a different one in the games? Or multiple pokemon are separated into each game? Just wondering. Won't bother me much, just curious.
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Yeah different Pokémon in each game. Additionally there is a different unique city in each game. I think for white its some foresty town whereas in black I think its a big industrial town.
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PS: Exactly why is the character always incapable of running, unless they are wearing specific shoes?
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Hijikata Tōshirō wrote:
Hmm I wonder when they will finally release Kingdom Hearts 3. I'm still hoping this year based on the VA leak on twitter even though Square Enix denied it, it could have been to hide this years release date.
I think somewhere in Spring or Summer it will be released?
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PS: Exactly why is the character always incapable of running, unless they are wearing specific shoes?
Because Red couldn't run in Generation 1, so running shoes became a sign of technological progress. So much so, that by Generation 6, Calem can run without the need for special shoes.
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Anthony wrote:
Hijikata Tōshirō wrote:
Hmm I wonder when they will finally release Kingdom Hearts 3. I'm still hoping this year based on the VA leak on twitter even though Square Enix denied it, it could have been to hide this years release date.
I think somewhere in Spring or Summer it will be released?
Is that official or your speculation?
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Gen 5 was Black/White? I like the design of the female trainer there. I'm giving Gen 4 another shot on Pearl, though I'm wondering if I should get... Platinum was the "both" versions one? I know the heroine suddenly went from black tanktop to... red wintercoat... why?
Yeah, it's the special effects! Even when I turn them off (cause I really do not need to see bubbles when I pick bubbles as an attack) it feels like it's taking too long... then again, maybe my memory of the first few generations is wonky cause I tend to play those on emulators with a LOVELY speed up button on my side...
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Yeah, it's the special effects! Even when I turn them off (cause I really do not need to see bubbles when I pick bubbles as an attack) it feels like it's taking too long... then again, maybe my memory of the first few generations is wonky cause I tend to play those on emulators with a LOVELY speed up button on my side...
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PS: Yes I'm giving Pokémon another chance. Is Pearl or Black better?
I'm probably late on this, but I'd definitely pick Black. In my opinion, Gen V is one of the best whereas Gen IV is one of the worst. Black plays faster, has a better story, and while I question some of the Pokemon designs, I just feel it's overall better. And saving doesn't take one to two minutes, but only a few seconds! Surfing doesn't feel super slow either.
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Man...that looks dull...this actually makes me worried for KH3 (since that team worked on the battle system)
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Well since I have to redo the intro, wondering if I should alter my starter. I THINK I recently read that the Fire pokemon is the better one to start off with because... Unova only had one or two fire pokemon to begin with? Or was that Gen IV? And I kind wish the game would give me an option to say "No thanks. I can/want to figure out on my own how to catch Pokemon." I mean, yeah, the general demographic for Pokemon is kids, but unless they change the mechanics dramatically, can't they at least allow me to skip the tutorial?
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PS: Exactly why is the character always incapable of running, unless they are wearing specific shoes?
Because Red couldn't run in Generation 1, so running shoes became a sign of technological progress. So much so, that by Generation 6, Calem can run without the need for special shoes.
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Got White. Although I still don't see why shoes are considered technology... I mean, if one of the things I could get was a hoverboard after getting a skateboard in the early gens, that I'd think make sense with technology. But... running isn't necessarily something that makes me think technology...
...That was a joke. No one in the game mentions running shoes as a sign of technological progress. It's just the game letting you know that running is now an option, when it wasn't in the first two generations.
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Got White. Although I still don't see why shoes are considered technology... I mean, if one of the things I could get was a hoverboard after getting a skateboard in the early gens, that I'd think make sense with technology. But... running isn't necessarily something that makes me think technology...
Well since I have to redo the intro, wondering if I should alter my starter. I THINK I recently read that the Fire pokemon is the better one to start off with because... Unova only had one or two fire pokemon to begin with? Or was that Gen IV? And I kind wish the game would give me an option to say "No thanks. I can/want to figure out on my own how to catch Pokemon." I mean, yeah, the general demographic for Pokemon is kids, but unless they change the mechanics dramatically, can't they at least allow me to skip the tutorial?
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Well since I have to redo the intro, wondering if I should alter my starter. I THINK I recently read that the Fire pokemon is the better one to start off with because... Unova only had one or two fire pokemon to begin with? Or was that Gen IV? And I kind wish the game would give me an option to say "No thanks. I can/want to figure out on my own how to catch Pokemon." I mean, yeah, the general demographic for Pokemon is kids, but unless they change the mechanics dramatically, can't they at least allow me to skip the tutorial?
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It's Gen IV that lacks Fire Types. Another reason why I really didn't care for it. And even then, I think one of the choices was Ponyta, who in my opinion is not too great and comes from an older Gen. In fact, I think the Fire type boss in that game doesn't even have a full set of Fire Pokemon because of that limitation. Platinum fixed it somewhat by adding more, but it still didn't do too much.
Black and White, you'll still be able to find a fire type if you don't start out with one. As for the catching tutorial, it doesn't bug me because it's short and fast, especially compared to some other mandatory tutorials in other games. At least they don't shoehorn tutorials around every single corner. Considering it's only one to two minutes out of a potential 30 to 40 hours of gameplay, it's really not that much of a sacrifice. Sure, it'd be nice to say no, but again, I only see it as a minor gripe considering it only happens once.
And if you want an example of Pokemon REALLY catering to kids, look at FireRed and LeafGreen and the Teachy TV. At least that was all optional
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I played LeafGreen (I am apparently stuck on the Seafoam Islands or so) and I didn't notice much that really catered to kids.
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Yeah, I'm mostly referring to the Teachy TV, which gives a tutorial for just about every mechanic and whatnot in the game. It caters to first time players, but you can ignore it.
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Hoping I can play it completly with no problems because the CD they gave me from gamefly looks like shit xD
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Awkward Zombie shows us the crux of the entire plot of Bravely Default... while I haven't played that specific game, I think this could actually be used to explain majority of problems in majority of games, anyway.
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Definitely. I still was able to enjoy the game, but it's rather annoying how many tragedies could have been averted in games by a simple "why are you doing this?" conversation between adversaries. Then again, that problem is far from exclusive to games.
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