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Ok, WHY do some of you people think Phoenix will be in brawl???? There is a small small small chance at MOST that he would be in it... I know hes cool, but as everyone else says, hes just not the right kind of character of this kind of game. (Chances are Very Very Very Very Very Very bad)


Balrog's right, not only is phoenix not capcoms main guy to send into another companies game (that would be megaman), but he doesn't do any physical combat. notice that every character has been in a game that has some sort of pysical action in it. the only other characters who were't in a fighting based game were game and watch and c.falcon but they were what, NINTENDO CHARACTERS

Even if capcom was willing to put their characters in brawl, our chances of seeing him as an assist trophy are still slim to none
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At best he is an assist trophy.

Mega-man is the most well known poster boy in Capcom. I heard that Nintendo is asking Capcom about possible characters in brawl.
Rush would be an assist trophy, him, Protoman Bass.
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Balrog's right, not only is phoenix not capcoms main guy to send into another companies game (that would be megaman), but he doesn't do any physical combat. notice that every character has been in a game that has some sort of pysical action in it. the only


While I agree Phoenix hasn't got much of a chance, this isn't true. Captain Falcon came from a game where he didn't get out of his car, Mr. Game & Watch never even existed, Ice Climbers had their moveset made up, and the same goes for Zelda, Marth (and Roy), Fox (and Falco), and Peach.
Little Mac did not get in because he couldn't do much else than punching. People get in for moveset potential, not for physical combat ;)
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Phoenix Wright would be playable or not in the game at all, they are not going to go out of the way to get the rights to use a franchise and just stick it in as an AT (talking about 3rd party franchises).
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If they get permission from Capcom to sue their characters, I don't see why he shouldn't make it in as an AT. I expect an amount of Sega and Konami ATs, too - heck, we've already seen a Sega sticker and a Konami AT.
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Balrog wrote:
Ok, WHY do some of you people think Phoenix will be in brawl???? There is a small small small chance at MOST that he would be in it... I know hes cool, but as everyone else says, hes just not the right kind of character of this kind of game. (Chances are Very Very Very Very Very Very bad)

I can't speak for everyone else, but I can CERTAINLY speak for myself!

I personally think that MegaMan is OVERRATED. Yeah, I said it. I suck at those games. I can do platformers like Super Mario Bros., but stupidly hard shooter/platformers like Ghosts 'N' Goblins and Megaman don't gel too well with yours truly.

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I find it funny that people think Phoenix Wright would not be a playable character, but are okay with an Animal Crossing character. Hehehe.
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Ok, WHY do some of you people think Phoenix will be in brawl???? There is a small small small chance at MOST that he would be in it... I know hes cool, but as everyone else says, hes just not the right kind of character of this kind of game. (Chances are Very Very Very Very Very Very bad)

I can't speak for everyone else, but I can CERTAINLY speak for myself!

I personally think that MegaMan is OVERRATED. Yeah, I said it. I suck at those games. I can do platformers like Super Mario Bros., but stupidly hard shooter/platformers like Ghosts 'N' Goblins and Megaman don't gel too well with yours truly.

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Well, I agree on Ghost 'n Goblins being hard, but Mega Man?! It's probably the most well-balanced side scroller there is, difficulty wise. At least, if you look away from Mega Man 1, Mega Man 2 and Mega Man X6.
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Tinker, we've seen a SONIC sticker and a MGS AT, that doesn't really prove anything.
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I find it funny that people think Phoenix Wright would not be a playable character, but are okay with an Animal Crossing character. Hehehe.


Well, that might be for the fact that Phoenix Wright is owned by Capcom and Animal Crossing is owned by Nintendo. (Although I don't think either are likely to get in as a playable.)

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Well, honestly, what's better than some free marketing? :3
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It's not only that Phoenix has no moveset, it's not in his nature to fight at all.

It's good that Mega-man is overrated, that means he's in(if the rumors about Nintendo talking to Capcom is true).
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Well, I agree on Ghost 'n Goblins being hard, but Mega Man?! It's probably the most well-balanced side scroller there is, difficulty wise. At least, if you look away from Mega Man 1, Mega Man 2 and Mega Man X6.

Well-balanced my a$$. Hardest sidescrollers ever. Couldn't even get that far into MMBN 1!

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I STILL think that Dahlia would be the best PW character for brawl, considering her wide variety of moves.
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While I agree Phoenix hasn't got much of a chance, this isn't true. Captain Falcon came from a game where he didn't get out of his car, Mr. Game & Watch never even existed, Ice Climbers had their moveset made up, and the same goes for Zelda, Marth (and Roy), Fox (and Falco), and Peach.
Little Mac did not get in because he couldn't do much else than punching. People get in for moveset potential, not for physical combat ;)


but still, all of the characters u mentioned were from a game or series that invovled physical action.

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notice that every character has been in a game that has some sort of pysical action in it.


anyone who has played phoenix wright knows that the only action in phoenix wright is dialogue. In other words, NO ATTACKS, exept maybe objections, but they are also, dialogue
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Today we have the Ice Climbers' final smash, Iceberg. As the name implies, they create a really large iceberg on the stage that not only makes platforms smaller, it makes everything really slippery, and has a chance of freezing opponents. True to their name, though, the Ice Climbers are uneffected by the icey terrain.
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It isn't very clear what's really happening, except that a giant iceberg appears. I mean, do other characters get shot away, like at Dr. Wright's skyscrapers? And how do they get frozen?
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It isn't very clear what's really happening, except that a giant iceberg appears. I mean, do other characters get shot away, like at Dr. Wright's skyscrapers? And how do they get frozen?


My guess would be it shoots up in the middle of the stage. Anyone hit by the iceberg directly takes damage, and has a chance of being frozen; higher damage, higher chance of being frozen.

This makes Zelda the only veteran character currently up to have her Final Smash announced. Still no details about Sheik... I wonder if Sheik would have a different FS... hmmmmm...

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Oh, and about Phoenix Wright being a PC, I actually have thought of a great move-set for him. I know, you all think that anyone could have a moveset (I disproved that quite a few pages back, like how L-Block, several Pokémon, and others cannot have movesets), but if you'd like, I could give it a whirl and show you all a convincing PW move set, equipped with Final Smash, Taunts, Entrance, and others.
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Its hard to tell from the screen shots, but my guess is that if you touch the ice burg it is like getting hit by a Mr. Freezie.
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The final smash is too unclear, so I'll just wait and see.
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Oh, and about Phoenix Wright being a PC, I actually have thought of a great move-set for him. I know, you all think that anyone could have a moveset (I disproved that quite a few pages back, like how L-Block, several Pokémon, and others cannot have movesets), but if you'd like, I could give it a whirl and show you all a convincing PW move set, equipped with Final Smash, Taunts, Entrance, and others.


Yeah, everyone, and with that EVERYONE can have a good moveset. But that's not the point - Little Mac, Sukapon and Lip did not get in because they would have hard to make movesets overall. Plus, it's not just the moveset that's keeping PW from becoming playable >_>
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When did he say little mac wasn't playable because of a limited move set? don't let rumors become facts.
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I'll find the source for you.

Here it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Smas ... evelopment
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Whoo, Ice Climbers get a Final Smash at last! (And quite a good one, at that)

Can't wait to see how that plays out.
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Whoo, Ice Climbers get a Final Smash at last! (And quite a good one, at that)

Can't wait to see how that plays out.


it is a good one from what i've seen so far. there are a lot of final smashes that have a chance of not hitting, but this one is almost guaranteed to hit (serously, it covers almost the whole stage.)
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And I'm here STILL waiting for Lucas's final smash.
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Here it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Smas ... evelopment

hey, I was just reading that Wikipedia article, and it says that Kojima originally wanted Snake in Melee... but the game was already too far in development... Snake in Melee...

EDIT: I don't know if anyone's noticed, but Super Smash Bros Brawl has official been rated Teen for Cartoon Violence and Crude Humor by the ESRB. [SOURCE: http://www.esrb.org]
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Tinker wrote:
Yeah, everyone, and with that EVERYONE can have a good moveset. But that's not the point - Little Mac, Sukapon and Lip did not get in because they would have hard to make movesets overall. Plus, it's not just the moveset that's keeping PW from becoming playable >_>


Well, I still think that having Captain Falcon, Mr. Game & Watch, Fox, and (possibly) an Animal Crossing character has proved that you don't have to have a physical combat record to be a playable character. This is a video game that takes many elements of Nintendo and turns it into a fighting game, after all. We have PictoChat as a stage, banana peel weapons, and other goofy elements that make this not just for Nintendo's best bruisers, but allows many different elements into the fray.

So yes, while there are reasons why Phoenix Wright wouldn't be a PC, I still hope. After all, there are people who hope for Master Chief, and we all can agree he's MUCH less likely to be in Brawl.

Right? I'm right about that, aren't I? :larry:
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Wait a second... If the game has been rated.... doesn't that mean the game is already finished? Because then they might add something later that could change the ESRB's rating... if the game were to be finished... or wait... I dunno... any insight on this new matter?
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Still it's against Phoenix's nature to fight, he's taken all sorts of abuse in his own games, passively.

I say Linebeck should be in the game.
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Today's update was twice the pleasure! Though one was obvious and one had been discovered at E for All, it's cool.

Now we finally have Training out of the way, and I notice that the old game modes are usually combined with double updates, which is considerate of them. And the Super Bomb... wooooo!

Poor lil' Electrode... *pats the bomb ball Pokémon, gets blown up*
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ESRB can rate games long before they are finished, a company just has to send them the most "controversial" or "mature" parts of the game for review. Do you honestly think the ESRB sits though some 40+ hour RPGs to decide what the rating should be? You will know that SSBB is finished when the game goes "gold" and they start printing the game.
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That bomb looks wicked, and the Training mode will probably get touched this time around since things are really different with the game.

One the Phoenix in Brawl matter, I can seriously on see him as a AT yelling out objection and stunning everyone around him. If Nintendo and Capcom are talking we all Mega-man is going to be thrown into the mix, probably as a secret character.

Also, I never watched the Melee updates. Did they announce any of the secret characters to be in the game??
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No, not before releasing the game.

Nice updates. Note the football in the third Training Mode picture. Wonder what it is.
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ESRB can rate games long before they are finished, a company just has to send them the most "controversial" or "mature" parts of the game for review. Do you honestly think the ESRB sits though some 40+ hour RPGs to decide what the rating should be? You will know that SSBB is finished when the game goes "gold" and they start printing the game.

Actually, for a game to get rated by the ESRB, the developer has to send a build of the game that best represents what the whole game is like. It has nothing to do with merely sending the more explicit parts of a game, as that usually leads to incorrect/unfair ratings.


The ESRB probably got a build of the game not too different from the E for All demo, maybe one a little more advanced, probably with Snake and some of the online components unlocked for review. The "crude humor" bit probably comes from Snake's codec moments.
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Tinker wrote:
No, not before releasing the game.

Nice updates. Note the football in the third Training Mode picture. Wonder what it is.

Yeah... But I just realized something, they can send in video footage of the game so they dont have to play it. Sometimes they send in demos though.

And Training mode... we can send in ANY item... Including Assisst trophies and most likely Final Smashes, so we can practice and get better with FSes.

EDIT: Yeah, they probably showed all of the footage and screenshots on the site... plus a little more...

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Wait a second! If they do give the ESRB a little more... maybe somebody from the ESRB might tell it to someone... and then that person leaks it... although most of them probably are told as part of their job to keep it a secret... they could get fired, but there's a small chance (only if they gave them more than what is on the site) that someone leaks the information.
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Yay, double updates! And the smart bomb too.

(Boy how I used to abuse those like crazy...)

And I definitely wouldn't mind a Phoenix AT, but I'm not holding my breath. Rockman would be a nice addition, though.
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Yay, double updates! And the smart bomb too.

(Boy how I used to abuse those like crazy...)

And I definitely wouldn't mind a Phoenix AT, but I'm not holding my breath. Rockman would be a nice addition, though.

...Rockman's overrated... GO LEON! XD. (Just Kidding)
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