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Pierre wrote:
And yet people still speak of them as being weak xP
'Hardcore gamers' (a category I believe does not exist, because your taste in games does not determine where you fit in the so-called 'gaming hierarchy') are just used to Nintendo being the casual market dominators, and that was a direction I feel they needed to take, they needed to adopt a blue ocean strategy (a 'blue ocean' strategy is tailoring its product output to a market which before did not exist, such as the 'casual' market) in order to get back on top of their game as they'd been slowly falling off ever since the N64 got owned by the PS1 in terms of sales. When the Wii U starts to get in full swing the 'hardcore gamers' should realise Nintendo isn't so 'gay' or 'childish' after all, although that remains to be seen.
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To be honest I'm tired of all this hardcore gamer/casual gamer segregation going on. -_-
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
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To be honest I'm tired of all this hardcore gamer/casual gamer segregation going on. -_-
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
I guess it's opinionated or depends on what hardcore gaming means to you.
To me, being a Hardcore Gamer means that you spend several hours a day playing games, probably even writing guides for yourself or others, finding tricks and secrets, stuff like that. And a Casual Gamer is just someone who plays now and then, not very often, just to have a little bit of fun and might look something up when they're stuck in a game.
Which doesn't mean that Hardcore Gamers don't look up things. I look up things when I'm stuck in something, unless it's a new game and I really want to try to get through as much as possible without resorting to any help.
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Emiko Gale wrote:
I love you Weejus!
To be honest I'm tired of all this hardcore gamer/casual gamer segregation going on. -_-
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
To be honest I'm tired of all this hardcore gamer/casual gamer segregation going on. -_-
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
Wow, I'm flattered. Someone cares about what I have to say.I guess I feel so strongly about it because I spent my entire middle school life socially ostracised (not exaggerating) because I supported the Wii. I'm not angry about it though.
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Weejus wrote:
Emiko Gale wrote:
I love you Weejus!
To be honest I'm tired of all this hardcore gamer/casual gamer segregation going on. -_-
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
To be honest I'm tired of all this hardcore gamer/casual gamer segregation going on. -_-
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
Wow, I'm flattered. Someone cares about what I have to say.I guess I feel so strongly about it because I spent my entire middle school life socially ostracised (not exaggerating) because I supported the Wii. I'm not angry about it though.
I got a feeling we'll get along well...And I see you're new. I'm Emiko Gale by the way.
And Cat...I guess I should cool my jets on the whole Hardcore gamer/Casual gamer thing...I've had bad experience with this in the past, the 3DS online shop ever splits the games between hardcore and casual.
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Emiko Gale wrote:
Weejus wrote:
Emiko Gale wrote:
I love you Weejus!
To be honest I'm tired of all this hardcore gamer/casual gamer segregation going on. -_-
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
To be honest I'm tired of all this hardcore gamer/casual gamer segregation going on. -_-
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
Wow, I'm flattered. Someone cares about what I have to say.I guess I feel so strongly about it because I spent my entire middle school life socially ostracised (not exaggerating) because I supported the Wii. I'm not angry about it though.
I got a feeling we'll get along well...And I see you're new. I'm Emiko Gale by the way.
And Cat...I guess I should cool my jets on the whole Hardcore gamer/Casual gamer thing...I've had bad experience with this in the past, the 3DS online shop ever splits the games between hardcore and casual.
Nice to meet you!
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Emiko Gale wrote:
Weejus wrote:
Emiko Gale wrote:
I love you Weejus!
To be honest I'm tired of all this hardcore gamer/casual gamer segregation going on. -_-
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
To be honest I'm tired of all this hardcore gamer/casual gamer segregation going on. -_-
It proves to me more that videogames are now more about clash of the egos rather than fun.
Wow, I'm flattered. Someone cares about what I have to say.I guess I feel so strongly about it because I spent my entire middle school life socially ostracised (not exaggerating) because I supported the Wii. I'm not angry about it though.
I got a feeling we'll get along well...And I see you're new. I'm Emiko Gale by the way.
And Cat...I guess I should cool my jets on the whole Hardcore gamer/Casual gamer thing...I've had bad experience with this in the past, the 3DS online shop ever splits the games between hardcore and casual.
Yeah it is a little intriguing how it does that.
For me it's more a case of how mainstream gaming is nowadays and I had to suffer for liking games as a kid.
In secondary school liking games was a mixed bag, most likely to get you picked on and I was as a result.
Then I went to Uni and times moved on, Gaming became cool, it became mainstream, it became....casual. Everybody and everyone was a gamer, they'd laugh about their angrybirds and their facebook farm games and how everyone at work played COD and I was just thinking "I had to suffer to be a gamer" sadly.
Now Xbox are stepping back into the "Gamers? Pffft screw them weirdos check out our TVbox!" style.
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Pierre wrote:
Xbox are stepping back into the "Gamers? Pffft screw them weirdos check out our TVbox!" style.
Microsoft never cared about gamers to begin with. The only attractive prospect about the Xbox line of consoles was its online gaming, which was admittedly the best there was on consoles until now. Now they're realising that Nintendo and Sony are hot on their heels so they're kind of regressing back into the 'true' Microsoft, instead of the fake, 'gamer-accommodating' Microsoft.
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Emiko Gale wrote:
And Cat...I guess I should cool my jets on the whole Hardcore gamer/Casual gamer thing...I've had bad experience with this in the past, the 3DS online shop ever splits the games between hardcore and casual.
I have no idea why it would or how it can... then again, I'm that rare type of gamer - or even human - who doesn't care if her game console has internet connection. Mostly because I don't want internet connection on my game consoles. I barely ever use it, so I generally disable - or not even activate - it, to prevent internet costs from going even higher, considering my PC is on a lot.
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CatMuto wrote:
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And Cat...I guess I should cool my jets on the whole Hardcore gamer/Casual gamer thing...I've had bad experience with this in the past, the 3DS online shop ever splits the games between hardcore and casual.
I have no idea why it would or how it can... then again, I'm that rare type of gamer - or even human - who doesn't care if her game console has internet connection. Mostly because I don't want internet connection on my game consoles. I barely ever use it, so I generally disable - or not even activate - it, to prevent internet costs from going even higher, considering my PC is on a lot.
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It asks you to review games you own. Basically it asks you if the game is suited more for casual or hardcore gamers as a poll and it shows the results to people browsing the game on the eshop.
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Pierre wrote:
Xbox are stepping back into the "Gamers? Pffft screw them weirdos check out our TVbox!" style.
Microsoft never cared about gamers to begin with. The only attractive prospect about the Xbox line of consoles was its online gaming, which was admittedly the best there was on consoles until now. Now they're realising that Nintendo and Sony are hot on their heels so they're kind of regressing back into the 'true' Microsoft, instead of the fake, 'gamer-accommodating' Microsoft.
The online gaming on Xbox for me was always put down by the fact they actually charged money for their online service.
I'd never really thought Xbox stood any chance in the previous generation but then again I never really knew anyone who played it.
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Pierre wrote:
The online gaming on Xbox for me was always put down by the fact they actually charged money for their online service. I'd never really thought Xbox stood any chance in the previous generation but then again I never really knew anyone who played it.
I'd never really thought Xbox stood any chance in the previous generation but then again I never really knew anyone who played it.Don't get me wrong, Xbox Live was the best console online gaming service of the last generation, even if you had to pay for it, but I suppose I got my money's worth as, like I mentioned earlier, I was (and still am) surrounded by Xbox worshippers who were (surprisingly) willing to play online with me, even if I did suck at CoD back then.
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Weejus wrote:
Pierre wrote:
The online gaming on Xbox for me was always put down by the fact they actually charged money for their online service. I'd never really thought Xbox stood any chance in the previous generation but then again I never really knew anyone who played it.
I'd never really thought Xbox stood any chance in the previous generation but then again I never really knew anyone who played it.Don't get me wrong, Xbox Live was the best console online gaming service of the last generation, even if you had to pay for it, but I suppose I got my money's worth as, like I mentioned earlier, I was (and still am) surrounded by Xbox worshippers who were (surprisingly) willing to play online with me, even if I did suck at CoD back then.
What made their online service so great? They get some DLC early?
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Pierre wrote:
What made their online service so great? They get some DLC early?
Well, anything is better than the Wii's online service, and well...I haven't really used the PSN to its full extent yet. Forget I said anything regarding Xbox Live.
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What made their online service so great? They get some DLC early?
Well, anything is better than the Wii's online service, and well...I haven't really used the PSN to its full extent yet. Forget I said anything regarding Xbox Live.
Yeah I wasn't really thinking it'd compete with the Wii but I've not really heard anything against PSN's service and I've used that.
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Yeah I wasn't really thinking it'd compete with the Wii but I've not really heard anything against PSN's service and I've used that.
Can't argue with that, and I don't think the whole 'that time the PSN was down ages ago' is a valid argument anymore.
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Yeah I wasn't really thinking it'd compete with the Wii but I've not really heard anything against PSN's service and I've used that.
Can't argue with that, and I don't think the whole 'that time the PSN was down ages ago' is a valid argument anymore.
..............oh yeah, that thing was down for a while!
I totally forgot about that. Maybe it was around the time when I wanted to create a PSN account for the sole purpose of getting Aerith into my Dissidia 012 game.
As for Xbox Live, I would probably go get Gold Membership.... if I ever decided to go online often enough to actually make it worth the cash I'm spending. Even if I had the cash to spend 50€ per months to be a Gold Member, I'd still only be online once or twice.
My husband sent me two codes, one for 3 Months Gold Membership and the other for 12 Months. I have yet to use either. Only reason I'd see myself use one is to download costumes for Dead or Alive 5, because apparently being hooked up to the internet isn't enough to get the costumes from Dead or Alive 5.... at least the PS3 version allowed me to get the costumes I wanted without charging me extra money for going online.
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..............oh yeah, that thing was down for a while!
I totally forgot about that. Maybe it was around the time when I wanted to create a PSN account for the sole purpose of getting Aerith into my Dissidia 012 game.
As for Xbox Live, I would probably go get Gold Membership.... if I ever decided to go online often enough to actually make it worth the cash I'm spending. Even if I had the cash to spend 50€ per months to be a Gold Member, I'd still only be online once or twice.
My husband sent me two codes, one for 3 Months Gold Membership and the other for 12 Months. I have yet to use either. Only reason I'd see myself use one is to download costumes for Dead or Alive 5, because apparently being hooked up to the internet isn't enough to get the costumes from Dead or Alive 5.... at least the PS3 version allowed me to get the costumes I wanted without charging me extra money for going online.
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I totally forgot about that. Maybe it was around the time when I wanted to create a PSN account for the sole purpose of getting Aerith into my Dissidia 012 game.
As for Xbox Live, I would probably go get Gold Membership.... if I ever decided to go online often enough to actually make it worth the cash I'm spending. Even if I had the cash to spend 50€ per months to be a Gold Member, I'd still only be online once or twice.
My husband sent me two codes, one for 3 Months Gold Membership and the other for 12 Months. I have yet to use either. Only reason I'd see myself use one is to download costumes for Dead or Alive 5, because apparently being hooked up to the internet isn't enough to get the costumes from Dead or Alive 5.... at least the PS3 version allowed me to get the costumes I wanted without charging me extra money for going online.
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In all honesty, the 360 is worthless without Xbox Live Gold.
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Weejus wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
..............oh yeah, that thing was down for a while!
I totally forgot about that. Maybe it was around the time when I wanted to create a PSN account for the sole purpose of getting Aerith into my Dissidia 012 game.
As for Xbox Live, I would probably go get Gold Membership.... if I ever decided to go online often enough to actually make it worth the cash I'm spending. Even if I had the cash to spend 50€ per months to be a Gold Member, I'd still only be online once or twice.
My husband sent me two codes, one for 3 Months Gold Membership and the other for 12 Months. I have yet to use either. Only reason I'd see myself use one is to download costumes for Dead or Alive 5, because apparently being hooked up to the internet isn't enough to get the costumes from Dead or Alive 5.... at least the PS3 version allowed me to get the costumes I wanted without charging me extra money for going online.
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I totally forgot about that. Maybe it was around the time when I wanted to create a PSN account for the sole purpose of getting Aerith into my Dissidia 012 game.
As for Xbox Live, I would probably go get Gold Membership.... if I ever decided to go online often enough to actually make it worth the cash I'm spending. Even if I had the cash to spend 50€ per months to be a Gold Member, I'd still only be online once or twice.
My husband sent me two codes, one for 3 Months Gold Membership and the other for 12 Months. I have yet to use either. Only reason I'd see myself use one is to download costumes for Dead or Alive 5, because apparently being hooked up to the internet isn't enough to get the costumes from Dead or Alive 5.... at least the PS3 version allowed me to get the costumes I wanted without charging me extra money for going online.
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In all honesty, the 360 is worthless without Xbox Live Gold.
That might not even change since Xbox One requires mandatory internet. I wonder whether that'll mean everyone will have to buy into Xbox Live for it to even be usable.
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Pierre wrote:
Weejus wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
..............oh yeah, that thing was down for a while!
I totally forgot about that. Maybe it was around the time when I wanted to create a PSN account for the sole purpose of getting Aerith into my Dissidia 012 game.
As for Xbox Live, I would probably go get Gold Membership.... if I ever decided to go online often enough to actually make it worth the cash I'm spending. Even if I had the cash to spend 50€ per months to be a Gold Member, I'd still only be online once or twice.
My husband sent me two codes, one for 3 Months Gold Membership and the other for 12 Months. I have yet to use either. Only reason I'd see myself use one is to download costumes for Dead or Alive 5, because apparently being hooked up to the internet isn't enough to get the costumes from Dead or Alive 5.... at least the PS3 version allowed me to get the costumes I wanted without charging me extra money for going online.
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I totally forgot about that. Maybe it was around the time when I wanted to create a PSN account for the sole purpose of getting Aerith into my Dissidia 012 game.
As for Xbox Live, I would probably go get Gold Membership.... if I ever decided to go online often enough to actually make it worth the cash I'm spending. Even if I had the cash to spend 50€ per months to be a Gold Member, I'd still only be online once or twice.
My husband sent me two codes, one for 3 Months Gold Membership and the other for 12 Months. I have yet to use either. Only reason I'd see myself use one is to download costumes for Dead or Alive 5, because apparently being hooked up to the internet isn't enough to get the costumes from Dead or Alive 5.... at least the PS3 version allowed me to get the costumes I wanted without charging me extra money for going online.
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In all honesty, the 360 is worthless without Xbox Live Gold.
That might not even change since Xbox One requires mandatory internet. I wonder whether that'll mean everyone will have to buy into Xbox Live for it to even be usable.
Well there is Xbox Live Silver, which is still having your 360 connected to the internet but you can't play online multiplayer.
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I am more baffled than ever at how Xbox survived.
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Wow that's harsh. I'd always thought Xbox Live Gold was some kinda super subscription thing similar to PSN but now I know it's the only way to play online.
I am more baffled than ever at how Xbox survived.
I am more baffled than ever at how Xbox survived.
Me too but oh well, I guess sometimes things don't turn out as expected.
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In all honesty, the 360 is worthless without Xbox Live Gold.
In all honesty, what's so great about Gold?
I can play online with other players.... awesome. That's really amazing... that's pretty much the only difference I can think of between Gold and Silver membership. And I'm perfectly okay with Silver Membership to get DLCs at times.
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The gold membership is like the icing on the cake. You can play all these great games, while talking to your friends. Doing that can make a game better for some people. Although, personally I would rather not. I'm the same as CatMuto concerning the internet - I don't have any need for it.
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I think that the Xbox's success mainly comes down to the games that are on it. It seems to target a more "mature" audience, which I can imagine is appealing for some people. This image they have of it might then put them off Nintendo consoles, or at least it does to people around my age. I've heard the Wii described as childish plenty of times.
The gold membership is like the icing on the cake. You can play all these great games, while talking to your friends. Doing that can make a game better for some people. Although, personally I would rather not. I'm the same as CatMuto concerning the internet - I don't have any need for it.
The gold membership is like the icing on the cake. You can play all these great games, while talking to your friends. Doing that can make a game better for some people. Although, personally I would rather not. I'm the same as CatMuto concerning the internet - I don't have any need for it.
I use my laptop for talking to folks in-game just get a skype call going.
Also doesn't PS3 support voice chat?
Xbox exclusivity....eh I can't think of that many amazing things that they kept. Fable....Halo (to some, it's overrated to me), what else does Xbox have? Forza? One car game is as good as another and I much prefer burnout.
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Pierre wrote:
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I think that the Xbox's success mainly comes down to the games that are on it. It seems to target a more "mature" audience, which I can imagine is appealing for some people. This image they have of it might then put them off Nintendo consoles, or at least it does to people around my age. I've heard the Wii described as childish plenty of times.
The gold membership is like the icing on the cake. You can play all these great games, while talking to your friends. Doing that can make a game better for some people. Although, personally I would rather not. I'm the same as CatMuto concerning the internet - I don't have any need for it.
The gold membership is like the icing on the cake. You can play all these great games, while talking to your friends. Doing that can make a game better for some people. Although, personally I would rather not. I'm the same as CatMuto concerning the internet - I don't have any need for it.
I use my laptop for talking to folks in-game just get a skype call going.
Also doesn't PS3 support voice chat?
Xbox exclusivity....eh I can't think of that many amazing things that they kept. Fable....Halo (to some, it's overrated to me), what else does Xbox have? Forza? One car game is as good as another and I much prefer burnout.
Well, I don't know enough about Sony consoles to say anything about them, but what I'm saying about the Xbox is that most of the games seem to target that type of audience, whereas the Wii contains more games that are suitable for a younger audience. That might put people off, as they might think there will be a larger range of games they would like to play on the Xbox. Of course, I'm not sure about any of this, I can't stand the Xbox ^^;;, but it's a possibility.
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Well, I don't know enough about Sony consoles to say anything about them, but what I'm saying about the Xbox is that most of the games seem to target that type of audience, whereas the Wii contains more games that are suitable for a younger audience. That might put people off, as they might think there will be a larger range of games they would like to play on the Xbox. Of course, I'm not sure about any of this, I can't stand the Xbox ^^;;, but it's a possibility.
Anyone remember Manhunt 2, that game from a few years back that was banned for a while? It got a Wii release, but it did not get an Xbox release. Not only that but Madworld was a Wii exclusive. The Wii has tried to cater to a mature audience, but no one cared. The people that complain that the Wii doesn't have anything for 'hardcore gamers' haven't looked hard enough. And most of the 360's library is available for PS3 or PC anyway, and both of those consoles offer online multiplayer for free (Steam > Xbox Live and Nintendo Network > Nintendo Wi-Fi, can't say anything about PSN yet).
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Weejus wrote:
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Well, I don't know enough about Sony consoles to say anything about them, but what I'm saying about the Xbox is that most of the games seem to target that type of audience, whereas the Wii contains more games that are suitable for a younger audience. That might put people off, as they might think there will be a larger range of games they would like to play on the Xbox. Of course, I'm not sure about any of this, I can't stand the Xbox ^^;;, but it's a possibility.
Anyone remember Manhunt 2, that game from a few years back that was banned for a while? It got a Wii release, but it did not get an Xbox release. Not only that but Madworld was a Wii exclusive. The Wii has tried to cater to a mature audience, but no one cared. The people that complain that the Wii doesn't have anything for 'hardcore gamers' haven't looked hard enough. And most of the 360's library is available for PS3 or PC anyway, and both of those consoles offer online multiplayer for free (Steam > Xbox Live and Nintendo Network > Nintendo Wi-Fi, can't say anything about PSN yet).
People don't look, though. The Xbox is now seen as the system for "hardcore gamers", who like first person shooters. You can't be one without it.
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Lucy wrote:
People don't look, though. The Xbox is now seen as the system for "hardcore gamers", who like first person shooters. You can't be one without it.
That's another reason why I think the term 'hardcore gamer' is a load of rubbish. If you have the nerve to call yourself a 'hardcore gamer' then you should be well acquainted with various genres and console libraries (for example being aware of the Wii's hardcore selection) and if you don't like a genre then you should be able to give a VALID reason why, not 'it's childish' or 'it's for babies'. I think the saying 'don't judge a book by its cover' comes into play here. Take Kirby's Adventure for example. I never once thought the Nightmare Orb boss would be so hard, and yet if you look at the box or the title screen, you'd think it was really easy,
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Lucy wrote:
People don't look, though. The Xbox is now seen as the system for "hardcore gamers", who like first person shooters. You can't be one without it.
Eh, FPS games... I was never much of a fan of them. Only ones I ever played were Turok for the Nintendo64 and Freedom Fighter for the Gamecube. As for Halo, I dunno, I agree with Pierre I know somebody is gonna be shocked to read that, seems to me like Halo is supremely overrated. I watched some gameplay footage of it and it's basically a shooting game. Which, meh. Don't interest me very much.
I guess it's a guy thing? Like GTA or similar games that are all about car crashes and car races and smacking into the police cruiser and flipping through the air. What's the point? Where's the fun in that? Don't get me wrong, I played GTA for a while on the PC and all I did was steal cars, get them repainted.... did that thing even have a storyline to follow?
And I doubt that Halo or FIFA games are gonna hold the ONE afloat. Well, maybe the Halo game, if the obsessed-fans of it buy it. But as for FIFA.... same with above, what's the point? Especially bringing a new one out every year we have Soccer Leagues. Are we supposed to re-play the actual league or just say, "Fuck it, these are the teams I think should've faced each other!" Plus, isn't it the same thing over and over? I guess it is and I doubt it's very popular, cause whenever I go into Gamestop, I keep seeing several FIFA games in the used games shelves.
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I doubt that Halo or FIFA games are gonna hold the ONE afloat. Well, maybe the Halo game, if the obsessed-fans of it buy it. But as for FIFA.... same with above, what's the point? Especially bringing a new one out every year we have Soccer Leagues. Are we supposed to re-play the actual league or just say, "Fuck it, these are the teams I think should've faced each other!" Plus, isn't it the same thing over and over? I guess it is and I doubt it's very popular, cause whenever I go into Gamestop, I keep seeing several FIFA games in the used games shelves.
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Is Fifa even that popular in the US? To my knowledge it's only that popular in Europe, and I don't know why they even bother releasing Fifa in the US and Madden outside of the US.
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CatMuto wrote:
Lucy wrote:
People don't look, though. The Xbox is now seen as the system for "hardcore gamers", who like first person shooters. You can't be one without it.
Eh, FPS games... I was never much of a fan of them. Only ones I ever played were Turok for the Nintendo64 and Freedom Fighter for the Gamecube. As for Halo, I dunno, I agree with Pierre I know somebody is gonna be shocked to read that, seems to me like Halo is supremely overrated. I watched some gameplay footage of it and it's basically a shooting game. Which, meh. Don't interest me very much.
I guess it's a guy thing? Like GTA or similar games that are all about car crashes and car races and smacking into the police cruiser and flipping through the air. What's the point? Where's the fun in that? Don't get me wrong, I played GTA for a while on the PC and all I did was steal cars, get them repainted.... did that thing even have a storyline to follow?
Freedom Fighters wasn't an FPS.
Halo was a great game for the original Xbox with its massive single player maps and atmosphere. Co-op was a ton of fun back in the day.
GTA DOES have a story. You just have to actually do the story missions to follow it
Where's the fun in slaughtering civilians and fighting cops? Well that's pure fun right there.
I want my Smash Bros 4.
I'm Blak, and I have shit taste.
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Blak The Great wrote:
Freedom Fighters wasn't an FPS.
Halo was a great game for the original Xbox with its massive single player maps and atmosphere. Co-op was a ton of fun back in the day.
GTA DOES have a story. You just have to actually do the story missions to follow it
Where's the fun in slaughtering civilians and fighting cops? Well that's pure fun right there.
I want my Smash Bros 4.
Halo was a great game for the original Xbox with its massive single player maps and atmosphere. Co-op was a ton of fun back in the day.
GTA DOES have a story. You just have to actually do the story missions to follow it
Where's the fun in slaughtering civilians and fighting cops? Well that's pure fun right there.
I want my Smash Bros 4.
R-right... whatever, it's a Shooting Game. Whether first person or third person, it's shooting stuff.
As for slaughtering civilians and fighting cops, meh. I don't like guns, I go more for hands-on measures, which I generally didn't find in the GTA I played. Except grabbing drivers and throwing them out of their cars.
And I really don't remember any story missions from GTA. I don't even remember which one I played... it had tiny human graphics, bird view, and I always started out on this street with a train station right across from me.
Agreed, Super Smash Bros 4 would be awesome to have.
I hope they add in Ghirahim as a playable character, he'd be fun to play. Although I hope they won't use Skyward Zelda's appearance for this one, not because I don't like her, but because I would see her shooting fireballs, teleporting and similar stuff and just scream at my TV, "Why did you not do that in Skyward!?"
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CatMuto wrote:
Blak The Great wrote:
Freedom Fighters wasn't an FPS.
Halo was a great game for the original Xbox with its massive single player maps and atmosphere. Co-op was a ton of fun back in the day.
GTA DOES have a story. You just have to actually do the story missions to follow it
Where's the fun in slaughtering civilians and fighting cops? Well that's pure fun right there.
I want my Smash Bros 4.
Halo was a great game for the original Xbox with its massive single player maps and atmosphere. Co-op was a ton of fun back in the day.
GTA DOES have a story. You just have to actually do the story missions to follow it
Where's the fun in slaughtering civilians and fighting cops? Well that's pure fun right there.
I want my Smash Bros 4.
R-right... whatever, it's a Shooting Game. Whether first person or third person, it's shooting stuff.
As for slaughtering civilians and fighting cops, meh. I don't like guns, I go more for hands-on measures, which I generally didn't find in the GTA I played. Except grabbing drivers and throwing them out of their cars.
And I really don't remember any story missions from GTA. I don't even remember which one I played... it had tiny human graphics, bird view, and I always started out on this street with a train station right across from me.
Agreed, Super Smash Bros 4 would be awesome to have.
I hope they add in Ghirahim as a playable character, he'd be fun to play. Although I hope they won't use Skyward Zelda's appearance for this one, not because I don't like her, but because I would see her shooting fireballs, teleporting and similar stuff and just scream at my TV, "Why did you not do that in Skyward!?"
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Ahh that's the really old old GTA game. I can't vouch for that one. In GTA Vice City, you could lop people's heads off with a katana or hack em to death with a chainsaw. Guess the superviolence was too much since in they got rid of all that.
And if you say that all shooting games are the same since they're shooting stuff, then I can say that RPGs are the same. You're always saving the world somehow by talking to random people using some kind of gimmicky battle system.
I'm Blak, and I have shit taste.
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Blak The Great wrote:
And if you say that all shooting games are the same since they're shooting stuff, then I can say that RPGs are the same. You're always saving the world somehow by talking to random people using some kind of gimmicky battle system.
I've never even thought of denying that.
Heck, if I look at the story of Final Fantasy X and Tales of Symphonia, I can easily say that one is the version of the other.
Spoiler: FFX and ToS
I have my limit on violence I can take in videogames. I didn't play RE4, but I saw some of the cutscene deaths and some ways to die during normal gameplay and some of that really made my stomach cringe. And I can watch certain surgeries and be all fascinated.
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CatMuto wrote:
Blak The Great wrote:
And if you say that all shooting games are the same since they're shooting stuff, then I can say that RPGs are the same. You're always saving the world somehow by talking to random people using some kind of gimmicky battle system.
I've never even thought of denying that.
Heck, if I look at the story of Final Fantasy X and Tales of Symphonia, I can easily say that one is the version of the other.
Spoiler: FFX and ToS
I have my limit on violence I can take in videogames. I didn't play RE4, but I saw some of the cutscene deaths and some ways to die during normal gameplay and some of that really made my stomach cringe. And I can watch certain surgeries and be all fascinated.
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Well I'd say that's only 2 RPG's so the comparison doesn't really work. Sure most will have you saving the world as a result of a journey but that's not just RPG's that's most games ever and typically RPGs still vary substantially in plots and characters and try more fantastical settings. Most military shooters are roughly the same weapons, environments etc identical gameplay. I can't speak much for plot but I'll bet 80% of it is some terrorist plot seeing how most of these are marketed for America.
Battlefield, Modern Warfare, Black Ops, and their varients.
You might be right that each RPG has it's own 'gimmicky system' but hey....that's still a substantial differential gameplay change. The gameplay between X-XII-XIII for the Final Fantasy series have all changed substantially providing variety. This kind of variation just doesn't seem possible with First Person Shooters. I suppose you have the 'futuristic' kind like Halo and the 'current tech' kind but the gameplay generally boils down to the same for each setting.
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Pierre wrote:
Well I'd say that's only 2 RPG's so the comparison doesn't really work. Sure most will have you saving the world as a result of a journey but that's not just RPG's that's most games ever and typically RPGs still vary substantially in plots and characters and try more fantastical settings. Most military shooters are roughly the same weapons, environments etc identical gameplay. I can't speak much for plot but I'll bet 80% of it is some terrorist plot seeing how most of these are marketed for America.
Battlefield, Modern Warfare, Black Ops, and their varients.
You might be right that each RPG has it's own 'gimmicky system' but hey....that's still a substantial differential gameplay change. The gameplay between X-XII-XIII for the Final Fantasy series have all changed substantially providing variety. This kind of variation just doesn't seem possible with First Person Shooters. I suppose you have the 'futuristic' kind like Halo and the 'current tech' kind but the gameplay generally boils down to the same for each setting.
Battlefield, Modern Warfare, Black Ops, and their varients.
You might be right that each RPG has it's own 'gimmicky system' but hey....that's still a substantial differential gameplay change. The gameplay between X-XII-XIII for the Final Fantasy series have all changed substantially providing variety. This kind of variation just doesn't seem possible with First Person Shooters. I suppose you have the 'futuristic' kind like Halo and the 'current tech' kind but the gameplay generally boils down to the same for each setting.
Quiet you. I just picked a genre that I found the most cliche.
*Argument*
Fallout 3.
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Blak The Great wrote:
Pierre wrote:
Well I'd say that's only 2 RPG's so the comparison doesn't really work. Sure most will have you saving the world as a result of a journey but that's not just RPG's that's most games ever and typically RPGs still vary substantially in plots and characters and try more fantastical settings. Most military shooters are roughly the same weapons, environments etc identical gameplay. I can't speak much for plot but I'll bet 80% of it is some terrorist plot seeing how most of these are marketed for America.
Battlefield, Modern Warfare, Black Ops, and their varients.
You might be right that each RPG has it's own 'gimmicky system' but hey....that's still a substantial differential gameplay change. The gameplay between X-XII-XIII for the Final Fantasy series have all changed substantially providing variety. This kind of variation just doesn't seem possible with First Person Shooters. I suppose you have the 'futuristic' kind like Halo and the 'current tech' kind but the gameplay generally boils down to the same for each setting.
Battlefield, Modern Warfare, Black Ops, and their varients.
You might be right that each RPG has it's own 'gimmicky system' but hey....that's still a substantial differential gameplay change. The gameplay between X-XII-XIII for the Final Fantasy series have all changed substantially providing variety. This kind of variation just doesn't seem possible with First Person Shooters. I suppose you have the 'futuristic' kind like Halo and the 'current tech' kind but the gameplay generally boils down to the same for each setting.
Quiet you. I just picked a genre that I found the most cliche.
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Fallout 3.
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