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I...... I...... ...what?
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CatMuto wrote:
I stopped watching 30 seconds in.
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CatMuto wrote:
Quite a charming little tune
Reminded me of this:
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You mean Link video xP
It reminds me of the Kirigiri Jing Jing song
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The last one is probably the most impressive to me, the Deku Stick seems to have a lot of transformations and summons associated with it. It can turn into the giant leaf from Wind Waker, the wooden shield from OoT, summon little sprouts that shoot deku nuts, and even call in the great deku tree itself for a special attack.
And for those interested, there's going to be a Hyrule Warriors-focused Nintendo Direct today at 11PM EST. You can watch it here.
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The last one is probably the most impressive to me, the Deku Stick seems to have a lot of transformations and summons associated with it. It can turn into the giant leaf from Wind Waker, the wooden shield from OoT, summon little sprouts that shoot deku nuts, and even call in the great deku tree itself for a special attack.
I can already hear people screaming "OP!!"...
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- Zant, Ghirahim and Ganondorf confirmed playable characters.
Ganondorf in particular has a new Dynasty Warriors-based outfit that makes him look like a Japanese warlord. He uses two large swords in combat, and his style has him pretty much just charging in and smashing shit up.
- Item/weapon crafting is rather in depth. A weapon with an empty stat slot can be conbined with a similar weapon to gain the stat it may have, further powering up the combined weapon.
- Skill trees can be used to upgrade each character. This includes enhancing stats and unlocking new combos.
- Adventure Mode is an 8-bit styled LoZ grid. Each square contains a challenge, and completing each challenge unlocks the adjoining squares on the grid so you can try those challenges. By doing well you can earn exclusive weapons and items for your characters here that you can't get anywhere else.
- The game has 2Player co-op where one person uses the TV and the other is on the gamepad. While there is reduced resolution when in co-op, it's almost unnoticeable and the game doesn't slow down because of it.
- The game releases in the US on September 26th. If you register the game on Club Nintendo before October 23rd, you'll get a free costume pack for Ganondorf that gives him his classic looks from Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess. Unfortunately, the other DLC costume sets for the other characters are going to be preorder DLC for various retailers. Also, no collector's edition either.
The ridiculous, but still noteworthy:
- Because of the cameo it's had in certain Zelda titles, the chain chomp has been included as an alternate to the ball and chain:
Not sure if it has any different stats, but it barks and animates as you swing it!
- A new weapon was revealed for Lana, the Summon Gates. It can be used to summon allied armies in battle. The example given? An army of cuccos... with a giant cucco general leading it.
So overall, more hype for me. Especially the awesome Ganondorf reveal, I knew it was likely they were going to have playable villains and all, but I was sure they were going to keep him a secret until the game came out... then again, it really wouldn't be Zelda without him, huh?
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PS: The longer hair makes Ganny look like a granny.
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(Not that I wasn't before but playable Ganondorf was a big deal)
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Pierre wrote:
Ganondorf? Sold!
I second that. This is what I was waiting for!
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Reckon the new villains represent a 'Greater Evil' for him?
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Pierre wrote:
Reckon the new villains represent a 'Greater Evil' for him?
Or Ganny will do a HeelFaceTurn for the story and fight alongside Link and the others... and when he got his "goal", he'll do a FaceHeelTurn back to being MWAHAHAHAHA EVIL.
Also, my husband made a video about this Unfreezing Zora Myth or something. It's mocking and not to be taken seriously... I dunno. I personally never heard of this myth, nor do I care about it since it concerns Ocarina, but if anyone's interested... *shrug*
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Reckon the new villains represent a 'Greater Evil' for him?
Or Ganny will do a HeelFaceTurn for the story and fight alongside Link and the others... and when he got his "goal", he'll do a FaceHeelTurn back to being MWAHAHAHAHA EVIL.
Also, my husband made a video about this Unfreezing Zora Myth or something. It's mocking and not to be taken seriously... I dunno. I personally never heard of this myth, nor do I care about it since it concerns Ocarina, but if anyone's interested... *shrug*
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His youtube name is HighPriestOfDucky?
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And given Link's new appearance in that blue shirt and ponytail (and apparently looking even more androgynous as before) I think it likely for him to be voiced by a woman.
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Pierre wrote:
Also having just watched that trailer....Ganondorf was fighting....his own minions of darkness?
Reckon the new villains represent a 'Greater Evil' for him?
Reckon the new villains represent a 'Greater Evil' for him?
Funny you should mention that, a recent theory has been going around that Cia might betray Ganondorf at some point in the game. Why? Well for starters, she has enough magical power to create/summon Dark Link, as seen here:
With so much power, as well as Wizzro and Valga by her side, she wouldn't need to follow Ganondorf at all, if that's what she's even doing in the first place. Either way, Ganondorf himself takes action by summoning Zant and Ghirahim:
If she betrays Ganondorf, she could force him to battle his own minions by controlling them with her powers, turning the story into something of an enemy-of-my-enemy-is-my-ally type of situation. Or if Ganondorf doesn't temporarily join forces with Link, then some kind of epic three-way battle for control of Hyrule. I'm kind of hoping for the former, though. Team Triforce all fighting on the same side would be quite a sight...
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Anthony wrote:
To be honest I would want Nolan North to voice Link or even Quinton Flynn or Crispin Freeman. 3 amazingly good voice actors.
Also no thanks...Link doesn't need a voice much less one so generic and modern as those guys. It'd be as annoying as casting Kiefer Sutherland as Snake from Metal Gear Solid.
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Pierre wrote:
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To be honest I would want Nolan North to voice Link or even Quinton Flynn or Crispin Freeman. 3 amazingly good voice actors.
Also no thanks...Link doesn't need a voice much less one so generic and modern as those guys. It'd be as annoying as casting Kiefer Sutherland as Snake from Metal Gear Solid.
Hence I said "voice". Just the SFX. Like how the Persona silent protagonists' only lines are "Persona!", "Here I go!" and similar. (or in P3 and P4's case, sometimes saying the name of the summoned persona)
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Also, I'm waiting for Ghi-chi to backstab Ganondorf, because he's just that much of a loveable little asshole. (And I'd also be happy for Ganny to just plain get hurt)
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CatMuto wrote:
Ganondorf isn't the reincarnation OF Demise! He's a goddamn reincarnation of Demise's HATRED! It flat out says so in the game! I just had to explain that stupid thing on another board!
Also, I'm waiting for Ghi-chi to backstab Ganondorf, because he's just that much of a loveable little asshole. (And I'd also be happy for Ganny to just plain get hurt)
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Also, I'm waiting for Ghi-chi to backstab Ganondorf, because he's just that much of a loveable little asshole. (And I'd also be happy for Ganny to just plain get hurt)
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Settle down Cat, I'm sure you can write a fanfiction for that outcome.
Also what on earth is Demise?
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Pierre wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Ganondorf isn't the reincarnation OF Demise! He's a goddamn reincarnation of Demise's HATRED! It flat out says so in the game! I just had to explain that stupid thing on another board!
Also, I'm waiting for Ghi-chi to backstab Ganondorf, because he's just that much of a loveable little asshole. (And I'd also be happy for Ganny to just plain get hurt)
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Also, I'm waiting for Ghi-chi to backstab Ganondorf, because he's just that much of a loveable little asshole. (And I'd also be happy for Ganny to just plain get hurt)
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Settle down Cat, I'm sure you can write a fanfiction for that outcome.
Also what on earth is Demise?
Skyward Sword Big Bad.
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Pierre wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Ganondorf isn't the reincarnation OF Demise! He's a goddamn reincarnation of Demise's HATRED! It flat out says so in the game! I just had to explain that stupid thing on another board!
Also, I'm waiting for Ghi-chi to backstab Ganondorf, because he's just that much of a loveable little asshole. (And I'd also be happy for Ganny to just plain get hurt)
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Also, I'm waiting for Ghi-chi to backstab Ganondorf, because he's just that much of a loveable little asshole. (And I'd also be happy for Ganny to just plain get hurt)
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Also what on earth is Demise?
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Also what on earth is Demise?
Blasphemist. How can you not know about every Zelda villain ever?
Demise is the final boss in Skyward Sword, as above, people say he looks like Street Fighter's Akuma, only half naked... ish. It's made obvious early on that you'll fight him, but I personally find Demise to be a total disappointment as a villain.
I dislike sympathetic villains and I like villains that are just evil, but Demise is the bad scale of "I'm just evil" villains. He's here, he's on fire, he's evil, bow down or die. He appears for a five minute cutscene before you fight him, the fight against him isn't very difficult and then he dies...
Seriously, Ghirahim was so much more entertaining...
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CatMuto wrote:
Ganondorf isn't the reincarnation OF Demise! He's a goddamn reincarnation of Demise's HATRED! It flat out says so in the game! I just had to explain that stupid thing on another board!
Also, I'm waiting for Ghi-chi to backstab Ganondorf, because he's just that much of a loveable little asshole. (And I'd also be happy for Ganny to just plain get hurt)
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Also, I'm waiting for Ghi-chi to backstab Ganondorf, because he's just that much of a loveable little asshole. (And I'd also be happy for Ganny to just plain get hurt)
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Also what on earth is Demise?
So flaming Ganondorf?
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So flaming Ganondorf?
Muhahahahahahahahahaha - Yes. And since he's basically Ganondorf, it automatically means he's a boring villain.
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So flaming Ganondorf?
Muhahahahahahahahahaha - Yes. And since he's basically Ganondorf, it automatically means he's a boring villain.
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To you perhaps.
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Pierre wrote:
CatMuto wrote:
Pierre wrote:
So flaming Ganondorf?
Muhahahahahahahahahaha - Yes. And since he's basically Ganondorf, it automatically means he's a boring villain.
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To you perhaps.
To mean he looks more like Akuma from street fighter.
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CatMuto wrote:
Well what does Ganny do that makes him special? He wants the triforce, fine. What else is there? Nothing. That's his whole goal. Wind Waker tried to make him sympathetic by completely rewriting his REASON for wanting the Triforce/Hyrule to begin with, which just feels like a sorry attempt of the writer's to make him sympathetic and interesting.
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Even if a villain has a reason for ULTIMATE POWEERRRR!!!!11!, that doesn't mean the writers intended for it to be sympathetic. And from what I've seen, it sounds more like the developers (writing isn't everything in a game's narrative) tried to make him more pathetic; the kind you look down upon after his defeat and simply say "Hmph. What a fool."
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CatMuto wrote:
Given his reason for wanting to take over Hyrule according to Waker was for the Gerudo to have a more balanced climate to live in... that don't sound like something to make him more pathetic, but more SYMpathetic. Then again, it's still a dumb idea to conquer a kingdom instead of just moving there.
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That's exactly what makes it pathetic and not sympathetic. No matter what his motives may be, he's still responsible for a lot of harm that was brought to the sea. Link doesn't hesitate because the villain has a tragic past, and the King comparing himself to Ganondorf only lowered his opinion of himself.
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CatMuto wrote:
Having a dumb idea and acting on it doesn't make one pathetic, it just makes one stupid.
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the kind you look down upon after his defeat and simply say "Hmph. What a fool."
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CatMuto wrote:
Well what does Ganny do that makes him special? He wants the triforce, fine. What else is there? Nothing. That's his whole goal. Wind Waker tried to make him sympathetic by completely rewriting his REASON for wanting the Triforce/Hyrule to begin with, which just feels like a sorry attempt of the writer's to make him sympathetic and interesting.
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I like his design. That's all it takes to make a character interesting.
You've argued incessantly that a deep story in a Legend of Zelda game isn't necessary. Why do you suddenly drop this requirement for Ganondorf demanding he needs something to make him 'special'? He's a powerful cool-looking villain, that's enough to capture the imagination. I've only seen him fleshed out a little in Wind Waker and I quite liked it for what it's worth. He fights with dual-swords (pretty cool) or just his fists and magic (also cool). Turning into a giant pig....eh but I just don't like pigs.
He's simplicity, and that's ok with me.
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#shotsfired
And people have fought over better land for millennia, I don't see why gaining ultimate power to take the land you want is stupid. I'm pretty sure people have warred over land more than pretty much anything else except religion, but I'm guessing religious clashes aren't such a big thing in Hyrule as in the real world since there's actual physical proof of gods there in the form of the Triforce.
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