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"Yeahno"? Which part?
The last one of your predictions. It doesn't quite happen like that.
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"Yeahno"? Which part?
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Well you can't win them all. Something tells me they won't be ordinary boss fights though, since they're trying to make them somewhat sympathetic, although to be fair that's what they try to do with every single character even when you want to give them the slap of the ages.
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"Yeahno"? Which part?
The last one of your predictions. It doesn't quite happen like that.
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Well you can't win them all. Something tells me they won't be ordinary boss fights though, since they're trying to make them somewhat sympathetic, although to be fair that's what they try to do with every single character even when you want to give them the slap of the ages.
Huahahahahahahahahahaha, they are so weak, they can barely be called boss fights!
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Thane wrote:
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"Yeahno"? Which part?
The last one of your predictions. It doesn't quite happen like that.
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Well you can't win them all. Something tells me they won't be ordinary boss fights though, since they're trying to make them somewhat sympathetic, although to be fair that's what they try to do with every single character even when you want to give them the slap of the ages.
Being a Sympathetic Villain doesn't help much against the AWESOME power of Armageddon *dons shades*
Also isn't Yukari just the WORST?
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Marin Karin.
Ice Break. Ice Break. Ice Break. Ice Break.
And Thane, yeah, that scene... I dunno, I guess you have to be invested in JunpeixChidori to really feel something. I overall always blamed the Visual Novel style in making that scene pointless for me, but I guess if you aren't invested in the romance there, it's kind of... meh. Also, yes. I never understood in Persona 3 why anyone was all, "No, it's too dangerous for you to walk around at night" or similar.
My main character has a freaking Evoker - it isn't a real gun, but it looks like one. And I can summon Personae if I want to.
I doubt that anyone can be a threat to me, given those two things.
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Marin Karin.
Ice Break. Ice Break. Ice Break. Ice Break.
And Thane, yeah, that scene... I dunno, I guess you have to be invested in JunpeixChidori to really feel something. I overall always blamed the Visual Novel style in making that scene pointless for me, but I guess if you aren't invested in the romance there, it's kind of... meh. Also, yes. I never understood in Persona 3 why anyone was all, "No, it's too dangerous for you to walk around at night" or similar.
My main character has a freaking Evoker - it isn't a real gun, but it looks like one. And I can summon Personae if I want to.
I doubt that anyone can be a threat to me, given those two things.
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Well you might be able to intimidate people with the fake gun but you couldn't summon Persona unless it was in the Dark Hour (and even then most folks would be wrapped up tight in their coffins anyway). Though I don't remember getting much "It's dangerous at night" anyway, I liked having the freedom to do stuff at night, guess it's an improvement in P4G.
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Though I don't remember getting much "It's dangerous at night" anyway, I liked having the freedom to do stuff at night, guess it's an improvement in P4G.
I was more going for scenes in the game, where characters are walking the main character back to the dorm cause it's dangerous at night. Or being alone is dangerous. Or even that scene of helping Yukari. Both of us have Evokers and yet nobody seems to think of using them in terms of intimidating people. Yes, Japan has a strict gun-law, but Kurosawa could just say, "Oh yes. They have permission." and that would be it.
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Marin Karin.
Ice Break. Ice Break. Ice Break. Ice Break.
TENTERAFOO!
And I remember ice break being the one skill she used right.
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Marin Karin.
Ice Break. Ice Break. Ice Break. Ice Break.
TENTERAFOO!
And I remember ice break being the one skill she used right.
I think my problem was that I don't stop for Ice Break, I'd rather she healed, guarded or just hit the thing with her sword over a pointless move that won't matter next turn when I kill it.
Also Tentarafoo actually worked for me a few times XD
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I think my problem was that I don't stop for Ice Break, I'd rather she healed, guarded or just hit the thing with her sword over a pointless move that won't matter next turn when I kill it.
I had the opposite. Misturu only ever used ice break on that one boss shadow in Tartarus right before the final day, the one that absorbed everything except piercing. Tenterafoo never worked, and Sexy Dance actually worked on one of the three knight bosses.
Still a lot better than Yukari's AI.
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A classic! Probably how 3.5/4 people play their second playthrough.
CatMuto: About the evoker, if they indeed evoked the supposition that they had special permission, wouldn't it raise a lot of curiosity toward the SEES? I mean it's easier to just say that it's a dorm for student with special attention or something like that. They explained that they were labelled like a school club, too much people wouldlove to have a shooting club.
On another note, I always used Aigis and Ken as a healer. Mitsuru is great, but lack intelliigence (which is very ironic when you consider that she is said to be very smart). But no one is better to heal the whole teaam than the main character.
By the way, it's known that Rise will be in Arena Utlimax but can someone tell me her title and why her persona changed to a fighting one?
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A classic! Probably how 3.5/4 people play their second playthrough.
CatMuto: About the evoker, if they indeed evoked the supposition that they had special permission, wouldn't it raise a lot of curiosity toward the SEES? I mean it's easier to just say that it's a dorm for student with special attention or something like that. They explained that they were labelled like a school club, too much people wouldlove to have a shooting club.
On another note, I always used Aigis and Ken as a healer. Mitsuru is great, but lack intelliigence (which is very ironic when you consider that she is said to be very smart). But no one is better to heal the whole teaam than the main character.
By the way, it's known that Rise will be in Arena Utlimax but can someone tell me her title and why her persona changed to a fighting one?
My money is on the fact that her previous Persona was basically cemented to the floor. It looked more like a structure than a Persona as it tried to emulate a satellite dish outpost. It's completely non-offensive and stationary as it needs to hold a 'visor' over Rise's eyes. She needs a new persona that can justify combat abilities and actually moving with the Persona.
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I love that comic. I WISH I could play the game that way, but... well, automatically increasing Social Links prevents it.
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My money is on the fact that her previous Persona was basically cemented to the floor. It looked more like a structure than a Persona as it tried to emulate a satellite dish outpost. It's completely non-offensive and stationary as it needs to hold a 'visor' over Rise's eyes. She needs a new persona that can justify combat abilities and actually moving with the Persona.
I meant story wise Pierre
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My money is on the fact that her previous Persona was basically cemented to the floor. It looked more like a structure than a Persona as it tried to emulate a satellite dish outpost. It's completely non-offensive and stationary as it needs to hold a 'visor' over Rise's eyes. She needs a new persona that can justify combat abilities and actually moving with the Persona.
I meant story wise Pierre
.XP Heh...whoops...well I guess we'll see when it comes out in Europe.
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Okay so now I learned that Ken (man did he change) and Koromaru are now playable in Arena Ultimax and make me want to exchange my actual Persona Arena for the new one (Theo is in it too!).
Woah woah woah, throw me a link because that's some nutty surprises out there!
I knew about Ken and Koromaru (though I haven't seen them yet) but WOW THEO is a playable character? Is he just a palette swap of Elizabeth or something? I'm happy but at the same time afraid because it means there's less slots for *censored because people are playing P4* the Persona 4 villain.
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Pierre wrote:
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Okay so now I learned that Ken (man did he change) and Koromaru are now playable in Arena Ultimax and make me want to exchange my actual Persona Arena for the new one (Theo is in it too!).
Woah woah woah, throw me a link because that's some nutty surprises out there!
I knew about Ken and Koromaru (though I haven't seen them yet) but WOW THEO is a playable character? Is he just a palette swap of Elizabeth or something? I'm happy but at the same time afraid because it means there's less slots for *censored because people are playing P4* the Persona 4 villain.
Whoops my mistake. No is isn't a playable character (for now I hope) but I saw him on a scan and thought YES he is canon (a Theo fan sorry).
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I think my problem was that I don't stop for Ice Break, I'd rather she healed, guarded or just hit the thing with her sword over a pointless move that won't matter next turn when I kill it.
I had the opposite. Misturu only ever used ice break on that one boss shadow in Tartarus right before the final day, the one that absorbed everything except piercing. Tenterafoo never worked, and Sexy Dance actually worked on one of the three knight bosses.
Still a lot better than Yukari's AI.
I never had a problem with Yukari's AI myself. Mitsuru was easily the worst though. Akihiko was easily the most reliable AI for me.
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I think my problem was that I don't stop for Ice Break, I'd rather she healed, guarded or just hit the thing with her sword over a pointless move that won't matter next turn when I kill it.
I had the opposite. Misturu only ever used ice break on that one boss shadow in Tartarus right before the final day, the one that absorbed everything except piercing. Tenterafoo never worked, and Sexy Dance actually worked on one of the three knight bosses.
Still a lot better than Yukari's AI.
I never had a problem with Yukari's AI myself. Mitsuru was easily the worst though. Akihiko was easily the most reliable AI for me.
Ok, that was an exaggeration, but Yukari's AI never learned to use group healing when necessary, both before and after development. She preferred to use Diarahan on herself when Mediarama costs less AND would heal the entire party to full.
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I think my problem was that I don't stop for Ice Break, I'd rather she healed, guarded or just hit the thing with her sword over a pointless move that won't matter next turn when I kill it.
I had the opposite. Misturu only ever used ice break on that one boss shadow in Tartarus right before the final day, the one that absorbed everything except piercing. Tenterafoo never worked, and Sexy Dance actually worked on one of the three knight bosses.
Still a lot better than Yukari's AI.
I never had a problem with Yukari's AI myself. Mitsuru was easily the worst though. Akihiko was easily the most reliable AI for me.
Akihiko is simple enough, he learns a good heal towards the end game and it makes him pretty much perfect. He's fast and hits hard and learns Diarahan. It's all you really need. His magic is enough to knock people down (which lets face it is all we use elemental magic for).
Though I find it surprising you had no trouble with Yukari's AI, it was the one that made me miss P4 the most.
In like the first tower-boss fight you encounter three birds. They are weak to piercing attacks and use wind. Since they use wind they will knock Junpei on his ass every turn and hit someone else with their extra turns. Yukari COULD knock them all down and save Junpei or allow an all out attack with her bow. However she instead opts to shoot the SAME one she knocked down instantly getting it up again where it'll proceed to destroy the party.
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Though I find it surprising you had no trouble with Yukari's AI, it was the one that made me miss P4 the most.
In like the first tower-boss fight you encounter three birds. They are weak to piercing attacks and use wind. Since they use wind they will knock Junpei on his ass every turn and hit someone else with their extra turns. Yukari COULD knock them all down and save Junpei or allow an all out attack with her bow. However she instead opts to shoot the SAME one she knocked down instantly getting it up again where it'll proceed to destroy the party.
In like the first tower-boss fight you encounter three birds. They are weak to piercing attacks and use wind. Since they use wind they will knock Junpei on his ass every turn and hit someone else with their extra turns. Yukari COULD knock them all down and save Junpei or allow an all out attack with her bow. However she instead opts to shoot the SAME one she knocked down instantly getting it up again where it'll proceed to destroy the party.
Oddly enough, when I first played that part, Yukari actually did the right thing and knocked down all three of them at once. Twice. It almost made me think I would actually like this character. Unfortunately, she never did this again, and preferred to finish off enemies with her arrows and forgo a one more.
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First of all, a general question: who ARE Elizabeth and Margaret anyway, and how come the assistants at the Velvet Room never know anything of the outside world? I'm not too used to supernatural stories, so maybe this is just one of those things you're not supposed to get an answer to.
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Elizabeth and Margaret are the velvet room attendants, the 'ones who govern power' they oversee the Persona Compendium. Their duties in the Velvet Room mean they can't leave and I'm certain they come from a different realm or world already. They also have much much longer lives than humans. Maybe they are Gods or something?
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Pierre wrote:
Thane wrote:
First of all, a general question: who ARE Elizabeth and Margaret anyway, and how come the assistants at the Velvet Room never know anything of the outside world? I'm not too used to supernatural stories, so maybe this is just one of those things you're not supposed to get an answer to.
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Elizabeth and Margaret are the velvet room attendants, the 'ones who govern power' they oversee the Persona Compendium. Their duties in the Velvet Room mean they can't leave and I'm certain they come from a different realm or world already. They also have much much longer lives than humans. Maybe they are Gods or something?
Spoiler: The Answer
Man, gods in this series are really something, being defeated by/falling in love with high schoolers while gawking in wonder at fountains.
So I just finished watching through Persona 3, and all I can say is that it was like something out of a bad fanfic. Right before the end of "The Journey", I warmed up to the characters a little bit - maybe because they finally stopped dropping exposition and psuedo-philiosophical nonsense at me - so I thought hey, maybe this game's story wasn't so bad...and then "The Answer" came and it was so cringe-inducing that I simply don't know what to say.
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Thane wrote:
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Thane wrote:
First of all, a general question: who ARE Elizabeth and Margaret anyway, and how come the assistants at the Velvet Room never know anything of the outside world? I'm not too used to supernatural stories, so maybe this is just one of those things you're not supposed to get an answer to.
Spoiler: Secondly, the Journey and the Answer
Elizabeth and Margaret are the velvet room attendants, the 'ones who govern power' they oversee the Persona Compendium. Their duties in the Velvet Room mean they can't leave and I'm certain they come from a different realm or world already. They also have much much longer lives than humans. Maybe they are Gods or something?
Spoiler: The Answer
Man, gods in this series are really something, being defeated by/falling in love with high schoolers while gawking in wonder at fountains.
So I just finished watching through Persona 3, and all I can say is that it was like something out of a bad fanfic. Right before the end of "The Journey", I warmed up to the characters a little bit - maybe because they finally stopped dropping exposition and psuedo-philiosophical nonsense at me - so I thought hey, maybe this game's story wasn't so bad...and then "The Answer" came and it was so cringe-inducing that I simply don't know what to say.
I know what you can say:
"Yukari is the worst"
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I know what you can say:
"Yukari is the worst"
"Yukari is the worst"
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Yeah... I dunno WHY they brought the Answer out. I mean... isn't the fate of the main character kind of OBVIOUS at the end of the Journey?
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I know what you can say:
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"Yukari is the worst"
Mmmhmm that dead horse sure deserves that beating.
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Do I think the Persona 4 team was a bit too happy sometimes? Yes. Do I think the Persona 4 characters were all flawless? No. But the main characters were ALL more likeable than ANYONE from Persona 3
While I'm still surprised by the quality difference in writing between Persona 4 and Persona 3, I'm now even more surprised by the difference between the mediocre Persona 3 "The Journey" and fanfic-bad "The Answer"
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>femc getting half the votes mc did
>kanji at the bottom of the list
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And I guess I just don't get the intense Yukari hate here; sure she has ass moments but at least half the rest of the cast is just as bad if not worse.
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